For those interested: Detailed Plans for this with sketchup model are on ETSY: www.etsy.com/listing/798115854/plans-planer-mount-bonus-sketchup-file?ref=shop_home_active_1 Here's a few links to demo if you like. I recommend the 10 second Instagram: instagram.com/p/B7Ja3o7gBo2/?igshid=1ev1708eyhx80 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M20DyRAnqpA.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aWMXFCs1Z9o.html
Thanks for the inspiration Chris. Using the plans, made this to raise/lower my sander. Installed on the Paulk workbench, making a few adjustments to fit where desired. Works GREAT! Very stable! As seen near the end of this video, it is highly recommended to secure the tool to the platform. Makes it easier to lift.
I made something similar a while ago The main difference is my planer is mounted so my workbench becomes the out feed table, works great and I don’t have to setup supports for longer lengths
Cool, I would love to see it if you would like to share via email or link? This was my 2016 iteration. I've redesigned the mount since but kept same basic location. I haven't found material support very limiting for my setup when trading off other machines/dust collection/limitations.
Fantastic video and build mate! Well explained and just a functional not overly complicated or over engineered replicable design that people can use for their own set up/tools! Nice one mate! Just subscribed.. Cheers from London England 👍😎🏴
Great use of space and a great design. I’m building a new bench right now and I’d love to incorporate your idea. I didn’t see where you were offering plans, are you? Thanks for the video
Hey Mike, I drew plans a few years after this and improved the design some at that time. I have them listed on my Etsy site. This is a direct link: benchtopwoodworks.etsy.com/listing/798115854
I would love to have seen it in action. It is either up or down. But great work. I like how you said "I made my first mistake" about 80% through! Me: "I made my tenth mistake"
Boyd, thanks for watching and the feedback. Pardon this was straight build video and I should've included that demo. Here's a link to a 10 second demo: instagram.com/p/B7Ja3o7gBo2/?igshid=1ev1708eyhx80 I probably wasn't counting all the little ones along the way, only the big one I had To redo.
Hey Bart, I'm still using the original, replaced the original Rigid planer with a heavier DW735. I did redesign things a bit when I drew plans to make the platform larger, and double up the drawer slides to 4x. Router table would be a neat concept, I've seen several folks use the mount for spindle sanders and one said they were planning on a table saw. I'm working on a new personal bench which will include the planer mount from the revised plans. I may also add a kickstand to the drawer also.
Chris, would you be able to share the basic measurements of this project? I have the same planer and, like you, have space constraints and think this would work great. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find the article you based your plans off of. Shawn
Shawn, Yes I can. I didn't do any drawings and unforunately don't have time to draw plans for public use, but I will do a hand drawn sketch and post either here or Instagram as soon as I can. I didn't follow any plans when I made this, but was inspired by the power tool friendly workbench video by American Woodworker (link in description box) If you have specific questions, please feel free to email and we can.continue the discussion that way. Thanks for watching/asking!
Rik, thanks for watching and for asking. This was a followup/build video to a previously released demo. But I definitely should've done a demo to make this video stand alone. Here's a few links to demo if you like. I recommend the 10 second Instagram: instagram.com/p/B7Ja3o7gBo2/?igshid=1ev1708eyhx80 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M20DyRAnqpA.html Thanks for the feedback, it's definitely noted/incorporated.
Thank you! It's definitely not as rigid as a stand alone base, when in up position it rests on blocks of wood that transfer load to frame & prevents most racking. I've run 8' 8/4 material through it as is and I'm on year 5 of average use with no failures. I changed to using 2x sets of drawer slides when I made the plans, so I definitely recommend that change.
I worry about the strength. I do a lot of heavy duty planing of pine laminated counter tops, 2" thick (or more) laminations of yellow pine 8-12" wide so they can get really heavy themselves, 30-40 pounds each themselves depending on the density of individual sections. Additionally I have the same planer, a Ridgid 70 pound beast so we're talking over 100 pounds being running with a LOT of vibration and torque going on. Your bench would pretty much have to be bolted down so it wouldn't tip over I would think. For now my planer sits on a rolling platform under the bench and I have to lift it up to the top of the bench each time and typically nail it in place on the bench to keep from vibrating off the end while running. I love the concept, but there's just too much vibration, weight and torque going on in the wrong directions. I'd have to build it from structural steel and weight down the opposite side of the bench to feel comfortable with this. Lol But hey, I don't mind doing some welding when the need arises. I did weld 1/4" steel just yesterday for a project. I kind of worry about catching things on fire around all this sawdust and wooden stuff though.. Maybe some steel supports with bearings to make things easier to raise and lower and a fold out support under the planer whilst running..I'd really hate to see a running planer with a 8 foot long counter top in it come crashing down on the floor. That would get ugly real quick.
Martino, Thanks for watching, the interest and the feedback. Trying to address your thoughts/ concerns: Torque from weight of planer and material is not a factor in my setup. The cart its mounted to weighs over 1000#. In my current plans for sale I improved the design to use 4x drawer glides which gives a rated support load of over 200#. The way I transfer the weight to ground is close to the bench so it reduces the "torque" or moment from the load of the planer and material. Since original build (2016) I now have a DeWalt planer (90+lbs) and have planed 12"wide 8/4 material that was 8' long through this setup. I do use indfeed and outfeed rollers to support long boards which also carries some of the weight. With respect to vibration, I'm not sure where your vibration might be coming from. Steel is definitely an option and for any 4-bar mount that "moves" like this bolting it to a rigid support surface is required. That all being said, I'm 4 years into using this setup. I haven't replaced or changed a thing except for the planer. I think the plans I recently drew and published are a solid improvement to my design in this video. Your planer cart sounds functional. I hope you found some value in reviewing the design and I appreciate your feedback!
Thanks Bob, they're still good after a few years I haven't changed anything. I'm drawing plans currently and adding double slides. The Dewalt is putting the 100# rating to the test, there is some deflection and I think doubling them up will make everything operate even more smoothly with little deflection.
@@benchtopwoodworks I just moved my workshop from the basement, to a shed. It's a limited size, so space is valuable. I might use this idea for other big tools. Like my miter saw, sanders, and drill press.
I doubled the slides up when I eventually drew plans. They lasted 4-5 years with me and are still with a new owner. I rebuilt my bench and I like the 2x sets together.
@benchtopwoodworks I decided to put my planer under a bench with no lower shelf, I'm going to put 2 wheels under the front of the slider, to take up the weight of the planer. Same basic design as yours, except with the added wheels.
My rigid feed wheels broke and I now have a DeWalt. As luck would have it, the dimensions for the platform work for both. My old thumbnail for this video wasn't good so I updated it. instagram.com/p/BZJJlC6l6nZ/?igshid=i24zzdou9nc1
@@benchtopwoodworks This is a common problem with youtube builders/refurbishers/etc. They don't give you a good shot of the final product in action and/or multiple angles. We really want to see the thing.
Sorry for the bad demo, immediately prior to this I published a short demo video. Most of the new viewers see this as a stand alone video, but it was a build video of the concept already published. I hope you found the links above to the demos. Thanks for watching and the feedback, it's duely noted and incorporated.
I've been looking for a solution for my workbench and having my Dewalt Table Saw (60v) pull up when I need it to. Looks like it may be the the answer. Though I'll have to carefully measure to make sure it "pops up" flush with the table. Great video!
Thanks Anjilus, I hope you're able to get your table saw mounted that way. Rockler and a few other places sell some ultra-heavy duty drawer slides or doubling up with 2x pairs might make it extra stiff. Best of luck, man!
In this video I see you had a Rigid planer and in a later video you have a Dewalt. I have looked at both models. Which is your favorite? Is the rigid worth the money or should I wait and purchase a Dewalt?
I watched it right up until the end but was rather disappointed because of all the pop up windows that blocked the view of the finished product. It would also have been nice to show a brief clip of it being used in the “up” position.
Sorry Allan, feedback received and appreciated. I agree, and hindsight is 20-20, and this video was back in my first few years making videos. Here's some links to clips: instagram.com/reel/CHofC-4DYnt/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_gPS1j8UhFE.html (21:37) instagram.com/reel/CdxzQeqF7Lj/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Back in the Day Office desks use to have one those for the Typewriter, they were all steel with springs to counterbalance the weight of the typewriter or what ever was put on them.
Richard, springs would certainly help, that's a great idea. I would love to hear anyone's ideas about specific ways or types of springs that might be incorporated. I haven't worked out any kind of spring or pneumatic spring to add in due to the rotation required. The links do transfer a significant portion of the weight to ground when lifting. Thanks for watching and for adding to the dialogue!
@@benchtopwoodworks Gas struts would be the best way I think, just mark two points one on the frame of the non moving table and one on the moving platform the distance they move apart from one another is the travel distance needed for the strut. the overall length is determined by the weight and your setup there are hundreds of possible struts out there.
What an Awesome solution! Just changing it a little bit, it can be made "modular"! Just imagine an entire 2 level- workbench.. this would save a lot of space. I'm starting to sketch! Thanks for sharing and awesome job!
@@benchtopwoodworks thanks! I've bought a new house and I am trying to figure out the best solutions for the shop. I think that when the general layout of the shop is right, all the work comes easier! I'll share!
Hi Chris, This is my second time watching this build because I hop to make one for my workbench tomorrow. I originally was going to use vehicle jacks that with an attachment you can raise and lower the planer with a cordless drill with that attachment which looks like a socket. Thanks for the idea!!
Happy to help! Would love to see/ hear how it turns out. I keep getting asked for plans. I'll make them a priority in the next few weeks for those not building from scratch. Thanks again for watching and for reaching out, I hope it was informative enough to build from!
Sorry Max, straight build video. Lesson well learned over the years, I appreciate your feedback. Here's a link to a demo: ru-vid.combViKk7fXgoU?feature=share
Another question, what do you do for outfeed with long, heavy stock? For now I'm using my TS with a few boards stacked up to catch the weight coming off mine, but then I'm not sure you're doing the same kind of work I'm doing. I do a lot of dense yellow pine. 13" widths of 48" or more can be 40-50 pounds. I'd be afraid this might twist it off your setup. Perhaps placed on the end of the bench with maybe the bench itself as the outfeed? www.wp.copewithmartin.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/15965499657156128102662323552309-scaled.jpg
I like your website! Best of luck with the business. I hope the orders come back. I'm honestly not a fan of the arbitrary lock- down policies. I think like in economics, individuals can best assess and act on their own risk calculations.
I'm not belittling your setup in the least by the way. It's very ingenious of you. I'm just thinking out loud via the comments section here for my own needs. I've made about 40 counters like this...not for kitchens, but shops and tables. Too bad the virus is killing the restaurant industry. I had a few customers once upon a time wanting multiple tables built for them.. Gone with the wind..
I'm not insulted, Martino. I appreciate the feedback and valid criticisms. This was a prototype when I designed and built it; I've since improved it some and published plans so I felt it needed addressing. Ideally when I plane heavy stock I work with a buddy. I have some roller stands that I double up otherwise. It's always a challenge to get them to exact height so I typically put a piece of 14"wide x 48" long melamine on them to catch it. I made a long support sled from 3/4" melamine coated particleboard reinforced with plywood for my old Rigid. It was 60" long and went across the planer bed. This gave me 24" indeed support and outfeed support which helped a lot. I haven't made one yet for the DeWalt but probably will before I do any jobs requiring large planed panels. How do you join/flatten the finished counters to get your full width?
Hi Chris, great concept and I've downloaded the Etsy plans but I have had some difficulty with the back of the planer mount dipping down when trying to raise it. Have you had this and any tips on preventing it. Other than that it works great, thanks.
Gary, thanks for watching, buying the plans and building the mount! I very much appreciate your business. I'm trying to visualize what you are describing. Did you make and install the stops that prevent the drawer from moving during lifting? Are you able to send a photo via email? Benchtopwoodworks@gmail.com
Assembly of the platform swivel detentions and spacing needs more explanation. The get a complete understanding of the assembly would take replaying the video several times. A single fold down leg at the end of the drawer would support the planner and keep the deflection at a minimum
Thanks for the feedback, Roby. If you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to help. I have a leg like you describe for my jointer. I may go update the planer mount with ultra-heavy duty glides or a 2nd set in the future, but they've held up since 2016. I'll put a note up here when I have plans available...4 years the design, please pardon me taking my time. Thanks again for watching and adding to the discussion!
I've been thinking about how best to use one-half of my two car garage as a woodworking space...and searching for ideas. On Chris's website I found all the info I need and links to detailed plans. Perfect for a novice like myself. Thanks, Chris!
Very welcome Brad! Thank you for the kind words, hoping the resources help you and others. Glad to have you watching, and thank you for taking the time to write.
Thanks, Guy. I made a slightly different mount for my jointer that is a little more stiff in the vertical direction. Some folks have used this for various tools like spindle sanders, etc. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
Israel, I've been using it successfully for 4 years, it works well. I even improved the design/ strength in my plans. This was strictly a build video, prior to I had done a demo video... but this is the one that went viral. I've received the same feedback from many others. Lesson learned, I should've made this video stand-alone with demo included. Here are some links, I recommend the 10 second Instagram demo: instagram.com/p/B7Ja3o7gBo2/?igshid=1ev1708eyhx80 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M20DyRAnqpA.html
Howard, thanks for watching and for the question. I figured most of it out in a sketch before I built it. The length of the links was determined by the final height I wanted the planer bed to sit at. Somewhat hard to fit into this response. Essentially, the links raise the planer bed by almost double their length (changes slightly with the angle). I wanted my planer bed to raise by ~28" so I made the links 14". Sketching the assembly in the "up" position without dimensions allowed me to figure out my dimensions for the actual build. Hope that helps some, I'd be more than happy to answer any other questions or specific ones you have. I've got some plans in the works that I will be sharing soon.
Great idea and great build... I will probably borrow the basic idea for a similar project. I had never thought of doing it quite like this. Thanks so much for your instructions !! 👍🏻👍🏻
This is brilliant, I'm looking around for ideas to design my "ultimate modular workbench(es)" and this idea is really nice. Thanks for the great video!
Thanks Jens! I have some other layout videos that you should definitely take a look at! Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment! Happy building!
Glad to help, Derek. I've got some planning resources on my website and Instagram. There are a few videos published earlier in 2022 that might help you on my current layout.
Sure, depending on the dimensions of what you're planning to put on the mount. The plans are pretty easy to modify depending on what you're trying to achieve. Happy to email about details if you like.
Nice work on the ‘fold away planer’. I have been considering various ideas for storing the miter saw beneath the bench/outfeed table, and raising it so that the table of the miter saw would be flush with the bench top. In this concept, a section of the bench top would fold back (or be removed), and portions of the bench top would fold forward on either side of the miter saw, providing extensions of the miter saw fence. The table saw would be at one end of the bench/outfeed table. Among the mechanisms considered to date are a planar four-bar linkage like yours, a pair of linear actuators, a scissor table, a screw jack, and a mechanism similar to many diy router lifts, driven by a threaded rod and a hand crank, drill or small electric motor. The front runners are currently the planar four bar linkage and the linear actuators. Btw, this mechanism is called a four bar linkage, and you are using two of them, one on each side. The four ‘bars’ are the shelf, the t
Ronda, thank you for asking. The platform is 21.5" wide x 23 3/4 deep and will fit any machine that fits inside those dimensions. Please let me know if that answers your question or if you need any other details. I offer the plans on my Etsy page. Thank you for watching, and taking time to ask.
Ronda, your elevation handle may stick out some, but not as much as shown in my photos. I have the same planer and I enlarged the platform size when I drew the plans to accommodate the larger planer. Best of luck with the build! I really appreciate your business. Don't hesitate to reach out along the way if you have any questions.
Ahh, I think I misunderstood you. Best of luck! I originally had a tall Rogid R4331 on the mount, similar in style to DeWalts other planer. All the best with your build, thank you for watching and for following up!
Great idea and design! I’m going to build one soon but need to try to modify the lifting aspect of it do to a bad back. Those things heavy. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching, and taking the time to write, John. Maybe a gas strut to carry some of the load? I thought about , but never added one on. Hard to locate due to the rotation. The links do carry a significant amount of the load so it doesn't feel like lifting the full weight of the planer. Best of luck with everything
Very nice idea! Love it! I'm currently planning to build an MFT and this swing up shelf for the planer looks like the answer I was unable to figure out how to make room for the planer and possibly other tools. Thanks for posting!
Nice job -- good out of the box thinking. (All planar and miter saw stands I have seen so far seem similar.) I am seriously thinking of buying a Dewalt planer. How important is it to you to get a planar up to workbench level to work with it? We're limited on space everywhere. I am wondering if we'd be unhappy with a lower level cart that just slides up under the miter saw cart, and out, staying at a lower level. It would be sturdier at a lower level. And they're quite heavy. You've used it this way for several years. Any changes you'd make? Thanks!
R Wind, thanks for watching and the questions. I think ~waist height is optimal for most planers. Let's you handle material with straight arms and save your back. Most commercial planers sit about that high. Before this mount, I ran my planer on saw horses, and sometimes the ground. 50bd ft of oak on the ground was not fun on the back/knees and setup was a chore on the saw horses, especially to make sure I could collect the chips. My main goal with the mount was having it basically ready to go at all times. A shorter mount could definitely work. Main change I would make is to double the drawer slides (2x pair). Nothing has failed or come close on mine but it's not as rock solid as it could be. I also looked at Rockler's ultra-heavy-duty glides but they're priced ~$50+. I can buy full extension glides for $5 a pair at a local cabinet store (box stores charge any $18). The mount does carry most of the weight. It's probably equivalent to lifting 50-70% of the planer weight. Please let me know if that helps or if you have any other specific questions. I'll have plans out for this in the next few weeks (nothing like drawing them 4x years after the build)
@@benchtopwoodworks thanks for the quick reply. [ I think I just canceled my reply instead of posting, apologies if this is a duplicate. ] Definitely need to save my back. I've used a joiner but not a planer. Appreciate the perspective. I had hoped to install the planer on a rolling cart under the miter saw stand, as we're limited on floor space. Will have to reconsider. I don't want to use a "flip stand" because we consider our miter saw a "grab and go" tool. You've got a good way of doing this -- I would have been looking at more expensive (I'm sure!) hardware options to raise a tool up, like they use in kitchens for mixer stands only a lot heavier, and I'm sure that option if it exists would be at quite a price. Those planers are heavy! Makes me nervous lifting it without aid of some hydraulics or something. (I don't know where someone said 50lbs -- the Lowe's site specs say the Dewalt 735 is 92lbs without the infeed/outfeed tables.)
My Rigid was ~80# and the DeWalt is definitely over 90. The links support a good bit of the weight, (maybe half) but it does require some strength to lift. Definitely a trade- off in this design. I'm sure a spring or piston spring could be added, but it's a challenge on my setup due to the full 180+ degree rotation.
Thanks so much for sharing your design and experience. I'd rather not have to horse something around and that's beyond my limit. I think I understood you to say that because of the lifting aid in your device, you're only lifting about 50% of the weight. You have a really neat idea here and I will keep it in mind for other tools as we plan, but the planer is probably the wrong choice for us to bring out this way.. I think if we want to store it below somewhere, we need a hydraulic lift. I am now thinking of a scissors lift. On rollers. Thanks! Will let you know if we use your device on something besides the planer.
Chris, I really like your plan and am attempting to make one myself for a jig saw table. However, I am having trouble with the platform arms binding as they attempt to go up or down. What am I doing wrong?
Are they binding on each-other? If so try spacing the mounting holes farther apart (toward front and back of platform ) so the arms can't contact each-other as they rotate. ..or sand them where they bind. If your arms are binding on the platform there may be a clearance issue with the platform and drawer. Can you describe where it's binding? I have the arms and drawers bearing on steel washers as they rotate and the bolts through them relatively tight.
Chris Harpster They seemed to be binding on the front bolts. I drilled a hole parallel to the originals on the front and cleaned out the area between the two adjacent tools, in effect creating a slot. Seems to work.
I added flat washers everywhere the rotating wood would touch. I'm not sure how clear that was in the video. That allowed me to tighten things down pretty snug to prevent some side-to-side, racking. I hope that helps some. I'm glad it sounds like you worked it out! Would love to see a photo if you're open to emailing!
Ed, Thanks for watching and for the comment. This was a build video after I previously released a demo. I definitely should've done a demo to make this video stand alone. Here's a few links to demo if you like: I recommend the 10 second Instagram: instagram.com/p/B7Ja3o7gBo2/?igshid=1ev1708eyhx80 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M20DyRAnqpA.html
David, I'm not sure what you mean by your question, are you talking about the way the end stick out? I originally thought I needed 24" glides when planning. 22" would have been the correct size. I mounted them the way I did to have the glides fully extend for the stops I made to lock the mount in the extended position. I've corrected this in the plans and doubled the drawer glides for stiffness. Thanks for asking, please let me know if that didn't answer your question.
I strongly recommend doing something like this if you have space on your bench for tools like a miter saw: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ASLBxEFOi4A.html
Mike, only a few notebook sketches when I made it. I've recently started making a few plans retroactively, this one is on the list. Hopefully will be on my etsy site in the next couple weeks Thanks for the interest, don't hesitate to email if you get into the project and have any questions.
Your idea will now allow me to buy a planer. I am confused however, Your plans call for 2 pairs of drawer slides while your video shows only one. Which is it? Thanks!
My video was me actively designing and prototyping. Although my prototype works and continues to work after 5 years, I felt that 2x were best for the design because they operate more smoothly in tandem with that much weight. Thanks for asking, I recommend online or cabinet store for purchasing glides. Significant cost savings.
