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Foodfight! Various early animated scenes 

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Between 2000-2002, Threshold Digital Research Labs produced 7 minutes of animation for their feature film Foodfight! to show to potential investors and the press. This reel was animated with key frames in LightWave and directed by Jim George and George Johnsen. While the reel still remains missing, this is most of what was in it.
Not all the audio is accurate, some of it has lines dubbed over it from the table read audio on the workprint. But you can hear the original dubbing underneath their lines at certain points. (Mostly noticeable with Daredevil Dan.)
There's a few scenes tacked at the end because I felt they were too short to put in order without being jarring. Was mainly just wanting to upload this so they're up anyway. There's a few extremely short clips I forgot to add, which can be seen in the behind the scenes video and the Q-tip tests, but this is 95% of what I've found.

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@ZiggyCashmere
@ZiggyCashmere Месяц назад
No, the movie was not stolen or deleted in 2002. No, there is no movie that was lost that still needs to be found. They only had about 7 minutes of animation completed before it was scrapped and rehauled entirely around late 2004. There are reports of the FBI investigating a "break-in" in late 2002, however whatever was reported to be stolen wasn't actually gone. The same animation would keep being shown to investors even as late as 2005 and every model was still in the servers around that time as well. Nothing ever actually went missing, they still had everything even by the very end. Confused? Watch the documentary. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xgBO9c3WKII.html
@NicoleHam
@NicoleHam Месяц назад
Literally a clearly bogus lie from the producers, yeah 😂
@CommanderFuckwit
@CommanderFuckwit Месяц назад
When you say 7 minutes, do you mean like approximately or literally? Because if it's the latter, then what happened to the remaining 24 seconds?
@MrWhatdafuBOOM
@MrWhatdafuBOOM 22 дня назад
That was one sorry rehaul, then.
@andykishore
@andykishore 20 дней назад
To think Nostalgia Critic quoted that fact in his review. It's yet another sad case on how this misinformation was spread for several years, but has been heavily debunked and proven otherwise. But considering how hated this movie is, I don't blame some people for not wanting to do deep research into it. Although the behind-the-scenes is more interesting than the actual movie itself.
@thatmalteseguy
@thatmalteseguy 19 дней назад
​@@andykishore THE LEGEND HAS RETURNED
@jupiter9099
@jupiter9099 Месяц назад
It's incredible how overnight this film went from just an expensive mess to a misdirected tragedy.
@patrinizer346
@patrinizer346 Месяц назад
2012: Movie's files were reportedly stolen. 2024: Director allegedly scrapped the original film's animation in favour for mo-cap animation.
@ijustlikebees
@ijustlikebees Месяц назад
Just really sad
@tonymata8070
@tonymata8070 Месяц назад
@@patrinizer346 The second part is the most likely scenario, that POS doesn’t understand how intricate and complex motion capture was in its early stages. Hell, it was difficult for the people who worked on the CG animated series of Donkey Kong Country.
@dubuyajay9964
@dubuyajay9964 Месяц назад
That's what you get for axing your Staff after putting them through Hell. Of course they fought back. 🙄
@KingOfGaymes
@KingOfGaymes Месяц назад
Just think, this could’ve been how Toy Story ended up if not for an awesome animator who was pregnant
@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Месяц назад
Dex originally being a human makes Sunshine being really humanoid make a lot more sense
@KyleEvra
@KyleEvra Месяц назад
I wonder why they changed it? 🤔
@ilikethecokev2
@ilikethecokev2 Месяц назад
@@KyleEvra They probably thought animal = more marketable
@Mr_TheJayman
@Mr_TheJayman Месяц назад
Cats hate dogs, it's an irony thing. Honestly they should've made Dex a human with dog ears & tail.
@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Месяц назад
@@KyleEvra Larry would ask them to change a lot of stuff out of nowhere, it was probably just a random thing he thought would be "cooler"
@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Месяц назад
@@Mr_TheJayman I think the human design was really cool, I kinda wish they kept it, the early animation version of the dog one looked alright too, the final movie looks god awful though
@fancy-payne
@fancy-payne Месяц назад
Imagine how different would have been if Larry hired an actual animation director to make this.
@OPTIMUSL1ME
@OPTIMUSL1ME Месяц назад
Probably still would've been a piece of shit lmao
@user-cd3zd9yu5w
@user-cd3zd9yu5w Месяц назад
I feel that what truly killed the project was switching to mocap for every animated thing
@arthurimusprime2177
@arthurimusprime2177 29 дней назад
Dreamworks animation?
@Sliver-Animations
@Sliver-Animations Месяц назад
Maybe in a alternate timeline food fight could’ve Been like hoodwinked,where it’s a solid film despite its questionable animation,but as it stands,these clips are better then the actual food fight film itself
@zachgreenwood202
@zachgreenwood202 Месяц назад
The Differently timeline and we can make a Time Machine to make that timeline happen mixed with the Onochverse with small ounces of Stephenverse and Johnsonverse and Sonic Xtreme and OTL combined with it.🤓😈😏😉
@lollybowser
@lollybowser Месяц назад
I feel like it would've still been an awkward brand pandering mess
@genyakozlov1316
@genyakozlov1316 Месяц назад
Hoodwinked has a better and more unique idea for a plot than this movie ever had, and it also executes on it very well. This looks like it would have decent slapstick unlike the final version, but the plot itself was pretty similar, and it is a way bigger problem with the movie than the awful looking animation and lighting. There is no such thing as a bad idea, only bad execution, and the Brand X idea is actually pretty cool and topical even today thanks to Twitter, about how a colourful design is important to our enjoyment of a product and how the corporate takes even colourful marketing away from us. But the execution of the final movie is so strange that to make it good you can't just reanimate it and change sone scenes, you need to return to the idea stage and only keep the broad strokes.
@Sliver-Animations
@Sliver-Animations Месяц назад
@@lollybowser yeah true
@saliorgalaxygachaclub8876
@saliorgalaxygachaclub8876 Месяц назад
In my opinion I think I’m a Alternate timeline food fight would’ve kept the original animation and changed the story and lore itself, and would’ve been a bigger franchise along side toy story and rack it wrelph but sadly we don’t get that it’s kinda really sad to see this animation is not shown in this movie, like look at their movements and expressions I wanna see this version than what we got
@CandiTheWildPig
@CandiTheWildPig Месяц назад
It’s so surreal to see constantly switching from human to dog.
@patrinizer346
@patrinizer346 Месяц назад
The Super Cheap sign pointing right at Cheesel (Voiced by director Larry Kasanoff.) Is brilliant.
@ijustlikebees
@ijustlikebees Месяц назад
​@michaelbullen3104 god this movies history is so fascinating. Even more than the movie itself
@lollybowser
@lollybowser Месяц назад
the edible hitting him intermittently
@ZiggyCashmere
@ZiggyCashmere Месяц назад
@@michaelbullen3104 Hey! What's your source on most of this? There are not "multiple cuts" of Foodfight, there's only this one and the final movie. The movie was nowhere near 60% complete by 2003, it was just 7 minutes of animation, a few tests and a shit ton of assets. If I had to guess, you're citing the IGN article from 2003, which was just flat out wrong, likely because they got the information from Threshold which was kinda notorious for lying about the movie's progress. I mean in 2010 Larry said that the movie needs "another year to be finished" even though it was finished two years before he even said that. Larry also did not delete the footage, see my pinned comment. As for "several different animation softwares," they only used two, that being Lightwave from 2000-2005 and Maya from 2005-2008.
@ridhosamudro2199
@ridhosamudro2199 Месяц назад
He got that dog on him (sometimes)
@DaimosZ
@DaimosZ Месяц назад
4:23 There's something hysterical about how the big reveal of Dex's club is accompanied by a song roasting him for failing his past job as a detective. Way to rub it in lmfao.
@Idamensional
@Idamensional Месяц назад
That's what I was thinking LOL and the fact that when Lady X is revealed they literally play the other half of the song that practically spoils her motives 😭 the music choices in this pitch reel are so funny
@DaimosZ
@DaimosZ Месяц назад
@@Idamensional agreed
@SuperbbConnor64
@SuperbbConnor64 Месяц назад
I mean it’s prolly just a placeholder in this instance if I had to guess, though it does raise questions on where the full version of the song could be
@DaimosZ
@DaimosZ Месяц назад
@@SuperbbConnor64 I kinda want it to be found now lol
@doodlestudios8727
@doodlestudios8727 24 дня назад
​@@DaimosZCall the lost music portion of the Lost Media community on this
@loudris442
@loudris442 Месяц назад
5:50 Overworked Threshold employee when Larry tells them to scrap already finished animation to make it "10% more awesome"
@michaelbullen3104
@michaelbullen3104 Месяц назад
Lmfao both versions of this scene look like a n u s
@drakubro5577
@drakubro5577 Месяц назад
FR 😭
@IREV00
@IREV00 Месяц назад
2:34 This sequence is genuinely really great. Animation has actual weight to it and it manages to make the scene feel intense while still being funny.
@michaelbullen3104
@michaelbullen3104 Месяц назад
IS it though? Great for some like… Amateur animation studio sure but this type of crap does not belong in a theatrical film shown on a big screen. Nothing about this version is better than the other version aside from animation expression and lighting.
@lollybowser
@lollybowser Месяц назад
For the time perhaps, but that sequence to me looks like something a 3D animation student would make. Bit too much reliance on arm movements while the rest of the body is not as expressive.
@migueon22
@migueon22 Месяц назад
Mfs in the replies can't appreciate genuinely great animation
@shiethegal
@shiethegal Месяц назад
​@@michaelbullen3104it's still beter than the final release.
@lollybowser
@lollybowser Месяц назад
@@migueon22 it's just not great. It's alright. I gave genuine criticism.
@grogg4372
@grogg4372 Месяц назад
05:50 this man's random mic peak is the funniest fucking thing oh my God
@user-cx6lq8mt5g
@user-cx6lq8mt5g Месяц назад
It definitely has that awkward late 90s/early 2000s animation that looks more like a video game cutscene. It’s still better than the final product though as at least the characters actually have facial expressions and move like people. If this movie came out back in 2002, I think it would have gained a cult following and be remembered as a nostalgic fever dream by gen Z.
@user-ly9eb6zw3c
@user-ly9eb6zw3c 28 дней назад
Yeah this is way better than the crappy motion capture
@mr.goodboi2780
@mr.goodboi2780 27 дней назад
It would have been way more forgiving if it was 2002. CGI hadn't blown up yet. I think only Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Antz, Toy Story 2, Shrek, Monsters Inc.,Jimmy Neutron and Ice Age had come out at that point. It could have been one of the first ones from the early era and had a decent cult following had it come out as planned.
@abrahamcortina6322
@abrahamcortina6322 14 дней назад
​@@mr.goodboi2780what about Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie, The Magic Roundabout/Doogal, Hoodwinked, and Barnyard?
@JJ_R
@JJ_R Месяц назад
4:24 I’m not ashamed to admit that this is kind of a bop.
@CarlosJoaquin-216
@CarlosJoaquin-216 Месяц назад
Seriously, the song is great and the singer's voice makes it enjoyable.
@Cookiecrips_05
@Cookiecrips_05 Месяц назад
@@CarlosJoaquin-216the melody sounds familiar
@Mooms
@Mooms Месяц назад
@@Cookiecrips_05It’s a parody of the song “Copacabana” by Barry Manilow
@MasterXSakuga
@MasterXSakuga Месяц назад
@@Cookiecrips_05​​⁠It’s a play on the song “Copacabana (At the Copa)” by Barry Manilow, which is a bop itself so great choice on the movie’s part!
@captaineli2461
@captaineli2461 Месяц назад
@@Cookiecrips_05it’s based on a actual song. It’s a cover of Copacabana
@user-ub7hr5mp2t
@user-ub7hr5mp2t Месяц назад
5:42 She has personality, not like the other version
@CarlosJoaquin-216
@CarlosJoaquin-216 Месяц назад
That one is a real woman, the other one looked like a poorly made Barbie.
@user-ub7hr5mp2t
@user-ub7hr5mp2t Месяц назад
@@CarlosJoaquin-216 Yeah you right, If that movie hadn't been "sabotaged" if I had fallen in love with that woman
@candycane1744
@candycane1744 Месяц назад
The eyebrows make her pretterier
@user-ub7hr5mp2t
@user-ub7hr5mp2t Месяц назад
@@candycane1744 Very
@txwtw
@txwtw 25 дней назад
@@candycane1744 ikr she’s genuinely so beautiful in the original version
@tonymata8070
@tonymata8070 Месяц назад
I’m deeply disappointed and frustrated at Lawrence Kasanoff (the director of Foodfight), this original version looked infinitely better than the disastrous version that we eventually got. For the animation being aged, it had a lot of life and it was very cartoony like something out of Looney Tunes and Tex Avery. When I heard that this version was supposedly stolen in a “act of corporate espionage,” I instantly called bullshit on those claims. I think he was disappointed with the animation and scrapped the footage himself, and then he forced the animation team to go full motion capture. This guy doesn’t understand squat about motion capture, especially when it was in the 90s and 2000s. The whole process was very complex and very intricate to pull off, and that goes for early CG shows that did it like that like for example Donkey Kong Country. I’m glad that the internet has made a complete mockery out of him for his mishandling of his “magnum opus,” and he deserves every single insult thrown at him.
@toon4thought
@toon4thought Месяц назад
3:50 - So THAT'S where the crew member grabbed the shot for their portfolio!
@METATRONmusic
@METATRONmusic Месяц назад
4:15 BAD TOUCH, BAD TOUCH, STRANGER DANGER
@mrviking2mcall212
@mrviking2mcall212 Месяц назад
Jokes aside, that line was delivered way better than in the final product.
@DarthBowser430
@DarthBowser430 Месяц назад
IZZAT A POOP RAT??? IZZAT A F***ING POOP RAT???
@dubuyajay9964
@dubuyajay9964 Месяц назад
You think Larry is going to get Me Too'd?
@TheSuperEcranFan2009
@TheSuperEcranFan2009 Месяц назад
This movie should've been renamed: Bowling alley screens when you get a strike: The movie
@Madman-bi5bf
@Madman-bi5bf 22 дня назад
It probably would have been better if they did that instead actually
@saraschmidt5612
@saraschmidt5612 Месяц назад
Still have no idea why they ditched this and went with the soulless motion capture instead. These early scenes actually look pretty impressive for the time. Love the squish and stretch style.
@craig205
@craig205 Месяц назад
It's because Larry, the director of the movie, had no idea how animation truly worked. He did motion capture because it was basically "animation" but with humans he could direct which he was more skilled in as that was his field of work.
@remautumnhehe
@remautumnhehe Месяц назад
6:13 “At the copa, copabanana, where co-“
@aero23312
@aero23312 Месяц назад
Hits hard🔥🔥
@billybarnett9518
@billybarnett9518 18 дней назад
I think he's about to say cookies.
@remautumnhehe
@remautumnhehe 18 дней назад
@@billybarnett9518 Same, in the work print you can here “cookies”
@Brainulator9
@Brainulator9 Месяц назад
It's nice hearing more of the Copabanana song parody.
@randombrokeperson
@randombrokeperson Месяц назад
It’s kind of a bop. I wanna hear the whole thing
@jeddicus9916
@jeddicus9916 Месяц назад
Thats insane that this was found, I thought this would be lost media forever
@jesusramirezromo2037
@jesusramirezromo2037 Месяц назад
3:43 Surprised the cheese wheesel was a character so early on, I taught he was added as a fuck you too Cheeto's dropping their lisence
@ZiggyCashmere
@ZiggyCashmere Месяц назад
He was originally a cleaning chemical mascot. He wasn't changed to Cheasel Weasel till around 2005 if I remember correctly.
@thepbcenthusiast7561
@thepbcenthusiast7561 Месяц назад
@@ZiggyCashmereSo that’s why he looks like a turd with a smiley face
@billybarnett9518
@billybarnett9518 17 дней назад
I think he was meant to be the comic relief character, they also created Polar Penguin despite being able to use the Kids Cuisine penguin.
@littlefieryone2825
@littlefieryone2825 15 дней назад
This trailer taught me that he's supposed to be a mascot for cheese. He looks so god damn gross. It makes sense for him to be a cleaning mascot, kinda like the Mucinex blob. But cheese? You know what's gonna sell me some cheese? A poop rat.
@cartershow6349
@cartershow6349 Месяц назад
The plane crash and Cheasel scenes sync up almost perfectly to the final version's audio. That's probably the closest we can get to the 2002 version of Foodfight.
@petros6013
@petros6013 Месяц назад
Foodfight has got to have the most fascinating production history I have ever seen.
@NicoleHam
@NicoleHam Месяц назад
Damn, that entire Daredevil Dan sequence was actually watchable, dare I say competent
@PixieDust18
@PixieDust18 Месяц назад
1:33 I could never have imagined in my life seeing a frog with a crown farting on welcome to the jungle... life is full of surprises 😅
@Gioylui
@Gioylui Месяц назад
This actually looks good , HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN, WE COULDVE HAD SOMETHING GOOD.
@DominickChristensen
@DominickChristensen Месяц назад
I know right, to bad that dumbass kasnoff ruined the movie
@jesusramirezromo2037
@jesusramirezromo2037 Месяц назад
"good", the story would have still been really incomprehensible And the animation is still kind of bad, just not horrible
@genyakozlov1316
@genyakozlov1316 Месяц назад
​@@jesusramirezromo2037 Lighting looks really nice though, better than in Toy Story. The final movie lighting is worse than in Toy Story from the 90s which is why I brought it up. But yeah, the plot is the movie's biggest problem, not the animation.
@Neonkong0500
@Neonkong0500 Месяц назад
The creator have a sindrome or something and he just liked the horrible body capture animation
@photonegativecupheadxd6406
@photonegativecupheadxd6406 Месяц назад
I think the movie would have been ok if nothing bad happened to it
@chrislondo2683
@chrislondo2683 Месяц назад
That scream at 2:58.
@ACT8113
@ACT8113 Месяц назад
Og triggered green screen sound
@CommanderFuckwit
@CommanderFuckwit Месяц назад
For anyone wondering, it's been called the Howie Scream.
@AwesomeYena
@AwesomeYena 25 дней назад
Howie Scream
@joshzuker8308
@joshzuker8308 Месяц назад
I wonder if this is all they had after all those years lol
@beegyosh8262
@beegyosh8262 Месяц назад
I'd imagine more animation was done but this is all that went through lighting and rendering so they have something to show investors. But this is just a guess really.
@ge431
@ge431 Месяц назад
probably around 11 minutes in total (counting unfinished/unrendered animation), but not much. enough that it was probably on the drives, but not enough to be 60%.
@spideyproductionz
@spideyproductionz Месяц назад
This animation is better than the final release
@sushi621
@sushi621 Месяц назад
Hearing the snippets of the Copa-banana song gives me hope we might get the full song without SFX someday. It has no right being so good but it still deserves to be released damn it ToT
@Gilby1385
@Gilby1385 24 дня назад
Same here!
@nerdgeekman
@nerdgeekman Месяц назад
Y’know, this movie could’ve been decent. Not great, not a masterpiece. Just decent.
@photonegativecupheadxd6406
@photonegativecupheadxd6406 Месяц назад
It would be good or ok
@Finn_the_Cat
@Finn_the_Cat 22 дня назад
Honestly it would still be seen as crap, might be an unfair comparison but Monsters Inc. came out just before this in 2001 and was better in every way same with Shrek. Again perhaps an unfair comparison as those were pretty big budget movies but at best it would have a cult following of people marveling at how bad it is but it's a masterpiece compared to the actual finished version hilarious to say ​@photonegativecupheadxd6406
@helloworld5555
@helloworld5555 24 дня назад
5:49 The screaming of the fire breathing tiki guy sounds like someone getting dunked in acid
@WhoCrappedInThisShack
@WhoCrappedInThisShack 21 день назад
That’s what they did to his actor
@TheRealQuartz
@TheRealQuartz 23 дня назад
that chester cheeto motorcycle scene did not have to go that fucking hard 🔥
@Treeeee2008
@Treeeee2008 Месяц назад
2:58 this needs to be a meme
@CarlosJoaquin-216
@CarlosJoaquin-216 28 дней назад
Definitely.
@Natalie_Milana7
@Natalie_Milana7 Месяц назад
OH WOW! This looks so great, even nostalgic to some degree. Oh, what could it have been!
@djmutt2000
@djmutt2000 Месяц назад
Ok but I legit like the Copacabana cover
@aotp9301
@aotp9301 Месяц назад
foodfight lost media being found was NOT on my 2024 bingo card
@bluelightning8bit
@bluelightning8bit Месяц назад
What's even more crazier there is a lost game
@craig205
@craig205 Месяц назад
not really lost more likely to have never been published because the movie was never published
@cian.o
@cian.o 29 дней назад
4:44 I do like the small interaction between Dex and that gun guy (what is he)
@ZiggyCashmere
@ZiggyCashmere 29 дней назад
Ant Acid!
@CarlosJoaquin-216
@CarlosJoaquin-216 Месяц назад
I can't believe they found it and to tell the truth it doesn't look so bad compared to the crap we received, there are funny expressions here and at least they blink, but in the final version with that motion capture animation it looked ugly and strange and when they made those faces it looked horrible but oh well, that's life.
@redbulbuniverse
@redbulbuniverse Месяц назад
4:15 "Bad touch! Bad touch! Stranger danger!" - JonTron
@DominickChristensen
@DominickChristensen Месяц назад
5:52 the investors when shown the good animation
@loudris442
@loudris442 15 дней назад
Along with the asstastic excuse for a storyboard
@TomTheyy
@TomTheyy Месяц назад
2:55 Love how Daredevil Dan's teeth clip through his mouth here.
@nicolecherryblam
@nicolecherryblam Месяц назад
3:48 why Is the animating so fluid,smooth and cartonish here?
@melvinlovesyou_
@melvinlovesyou_ 20 дней назад
the scene with brand X entering somehow baffles me. like the lighting during the close-up shot compared to what we got? 5:43 for anyone who needs the stamp
@BigTexasTony
@BigTexasTony Месяц назад
Can you imagine the foodfight recobbled cut? It would be better than the final film.
@jaketucker2559
@jaketucker2559 Месяц назад
That’s like comparing a car that got wrecked to one that exploded.
@obeliscoparlante
@obeliscoparlante Месяц назад
​@@jaketucker2559Rather, a car that was not finished with a poorly manufactured one.
@kaitoreader93
@kaitoreader93 Месяц назад
Blameitonjorge is gonna love this.
@BlazeHeartPanther
@BlazeHeartPanther Месяц назад
LSuperSonicQ too.
@braydenslawski351
@braydenslawski351 Месяц назад
Animat too!
@GiabsCauws
@GiabsCauws Месяц назад
6:06 what is that nightmare fuel on the bottom left i need to know that mascot
@okso...
@okso... Месяц назад
That is Jet Pack Jeffery!
@tgcv4444
@tgcv4444 Месяц назад
I love how the internet brings people together like this! This will definitely be material for RU-vidrs too make vids on. Remember, fame isn't important. This comment is an example of being in the moment
@Tr3yM34
@Tr3yM34 Месяц назад
Imagine this being the only piece of animation that survives in the future
@crazyjedi5994
@crazyjedi5994 Месяц назад
5:49 THAT. SOUND.
@-Poka-
@-Poka- Месяц назад
You know an animated movie is good when they have "Bad To The Bone" and "Welcome To The Jungle". (Megamind ftw) Too bad we cant have these songs in the final results
@DominickChristensen
@DominickChristensen Месяц назад
This footage was good treat for the weekend
@callampero
@callampero Месяц назад
I would kill to have all my farts to be introduced by "Welcome to the jungle" like that frog character
@redgunnit
@redgunnit 22 дня назад
It's shocking to look at this and realize that certain things are stupid in the release version only due to the studio changing one detail that fucks the scene. The one that jumps out to me is the reporter trying to interview Dex at the club. In the release version, it's a Toucan with boobies that hovers around like she has antigravity. In the original cut, we can see the reporter is a Bumblebee lady, so it makes sense for her to be floating around like a bee. Subtle shit like that may not bee immediately apparent but people do subconsciously pick up on them. The more there are, the more it starts to grate against your psyche. That shits jarring enough without the movie looking ghoulish from beginning to end.
@HorseFolder
@HorseFolder 22 дня назад
the comedic timing of many scenes was lost in translation as well
@billybarnett9518
@billybarnett9518 17 дней назад
There also appears to be something attached to the soda bottle Dex is riding, unlike in the released version where the bottle can just fly in mid air.
@jdogmcfly1712
@jdogmcfly1712 Месяц назад
I just like the fact that I finally get to see these characters.... You know... Animated and actually look like they have life put into them
@austinmorrison6953
@austinmorrison6953 Месяц назад
If the production wasn’t such a mess Foodfight probably would’ve been watchable.
@almightysmolest3524
@almightysmolest3524 Месяц назад
Something tells me from the way he voiced the weasel that Kassanoff REALLY liked the Skeksis in Dark Crystal, specifically The Chamberlain
@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Месяц назад
This movie's models and animations looked horrendous but there's something about the lighting and colors that I really like here
@michaelbullen3104
@michaelbullen3104 Месяц назад
These earlier versions of the modern are honestly WORSE in my opinion
@Jan-jc4rx
@Jan-jc4rx Месяц назад
Animation looks 100 times better with emotion and better movement
@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Месяц назад
Interesting to note there are some shots from the trailer that are different or not seen here
@Idkwhattoputhere5123
@Idkwhattoputhere5123 Месяц назад
This isn’t the full demo reel, this is just most of the stuff that was in there.
@shiethegal
@shiethegal Месяц назад
Larry Kasanoff robbed us of something that could've been great. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying FoodFight would've been the next Citizen Kane, but I do think that if this movie was animated the way it was in the demo reels and it came out in '03 or '06, it at least would've been remembered fondly by the kids who watched it on early morning Cartoon Network reruns while they were sick at home on a school day.
@superfelipestudios8104
@superfelipestudios8104 Месяц назад
Man imagine if they had a director Who understood how animation works and a better script because the idea of the film is actually pretty good and might have had potential
@misterboxhead3045
@misterboxhead3045 27 дней назад
4:24 I not gonna lie, this is an great song
@jennyholiday88
@jennyholiday88 29 дней назад
the squash and stretch is actually really impressive, especially for the time in a pre cloudy with a chance of meetballs world
@cheeseking2825
@cheeseking2825 20 дней назад
I find it very fitting that Kasanoff plays a weasel
@AndieloDiaz2007
@AndieloDiaz2007 Месяц назад
0:39 Bad to the bone Music used in: - Terminator 2: Judgement day - Megamind - The parent Trap - Un gallo con muchos huevos
@narlord8613
@narlord8613 18 дней назад
Also in Christine.
@jessejones1783
@jessejones1783 Месяц назад
idk how the hell this looks better the final version of the film
@undyne1
@undyne1 Месяц назад
It may not look that great, but sure does look a LOT better than the final product.
@DominickChristensen
@DominickChristensen Месяц назад
5:28
@theinklingzwithchannels
@theinklingzwithchannels Месяц назад
The fact I think this animation is great 😭
@mummifiedbutterfly
@mummifiedbutterfly 28 дней назад
The designs for the characters are way less creepier in this rough draft than in the final product.
@UncleFlutus
@UncleFlutus Месяц назад
its interesting how the animation still kinda sucks even in this early version. a lot of rookie 3d animator mistakes. contorting the models to get that exaggerated squash and stretch when the rigs can't handle it, key frames bring timed out poorly (plus general key frame issues causing some parts of the character models to jitter and jump to different positions unnaturally), a lot of movement for the sake of movement with no intention behind it, random lack of follow through and moving holds, blah blah blah other animation technicalities, et cetera. though on the flip side, a couple of little moments here and there throughout this compilation have pretty decent character acting that understand the basic principles of animation so it's not all bad. a lot of these animation tests give off college animation student level quality. for a student level? its pretty decent overall. for a feature film pitch? rough. especially considering by the time this was made, other new animated movies made by feature film inexperienced studios like blue sky with ice age or dna productions with jimmy neutron were coming out (jimmy neutron was also animated in lightwave). with the character animation in those films being way better than this. maybe the animation would have improved with a higher budget if these test reels ever got a decent company investing, but animation aside, this idea is just lame and the writing is awkward. this probably would've been a flop even if the original reels never got stolen.
@tylerkirkland2045
@tylerkirkland2045 Месяц назад
I think it also suffered due to the director, he made them animate over and over again with vague things like "Make it more awesome."
@SuperbbConnor64
@SuperbbConnor64 Месяц назад
Still I feel like if nothing else the movie would have had that vague nostalgic early 2000s CGI charm things like Jimmy Neutron or Hoodwinked have Where it’s kinda crappy but it has vibes If that makes any sense
@TiffanyAmber01
@TiffanyAmber01 Месяц назад
youre right about all the technical stuff, but the original reels were never "stolen". production was simply restarted with everything being redone from scratch using motion capture, and the theft story is all but confirmed to have been bullshit. this 6 minutes of footage is more or less everything that ever existed of the early version- they made a 7 minute sizzle reel to impress investors and convince them to help fund the project, switching to mocap a while after there's a workprint of the full movie from 2005 you can find on this same channel which was shown to investors as well and consists mostly of storyboards (some photoshopped together using 3D renders, some hand-drawn) with the animation from the sizzle reel also being used in it as a placeholder: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1sman2uX-I4.htmlsi=hLxB01G2iDmooqgM
@Idamensional
@Idamensional Месяц назад
Idk I don't necessarily think the idea was that bad, sure it would've never been a good movie but I feel like it could've had the potential to become this little cult classic charming kids movie if it just had a more competent director and better writing but unfortunately that isn't the reality we live in Ur not wrong tho I really don't think this original version would've done well regardless and the slightly better non motion capture animation was not gonna hide the bad story bad characters and bad dialogue
@UncleFlutus
@UncleFlutus Месяц назад
@@TiffanyAmber01 oh wow, had no idea the theft story turned out to be BS. that's crazy. i gotta check this workprint out!!
@jackallaster7710
@jackallaster7710 12 дней назад
the Copa Bananas song is unironically a bop, very catchy I even kinda like it more than the original
@brittan_hawthorne
@brittan_hawthorne Месяц назад
This somehow looks leagues better than the final film
@mr.goodboi2780
@mr.goodboi2780 27 дней назад
It's a shame because you can kinda get a glimpse on what could have been here, and while I'm sure the movie wouldn't have been anything more than okay, still feels kind of sad. Some of the animation here (for the time in 2001/02) is actually decent, especially the airplane scene with the squirrel at 1:40. There's a cool snappy cartoon nature that no one had gotten right yet at the time in CGI and from what I see where he beats the gator and pops in and out of the plane would have been revolutionary at that point, and set Threshold apart from Pixar and DreamWorks in terms of style. It's a whole mess but even in messes like this you still wonder what the alternate reality would have been like had it happened.
@DoubleM2016
@DoubleM2016 Месяц назад
These scenes take too long to animate! If it was motion capture, we could get them done nice and quick!
@GiabsCauws
@GiabsCauws Месяц назад
i did the math, if they had 3 animators working roughly at the same time, roughly the same style, and were each making 10 minutes of footage per 8 months (created by 2000-2002, 3 years) then it would result to: - 30 mins of footage in 3 years - movie being released in mid-late 2008 - animation taking 8 years to complete, reaching the same time the merch came out. so not only if there was better workflow and conditions, would have the movie come out sooner, it would've also looked far more superior than larry's weird perfectionism-failurism attempt at mocap. this is all ofcourse in peak condition, it would've perhaps taken longer, or have still released in 2012, at which point it would've looked very outdated, but even then, in 2008 or 2012 it still had potential as a dvd movie.
@jupiter9099
@jupiter9099 Месяц назад
Kasonoff is the kind of person to go to a fancy restaurant only to be disgusted when he realizes they don't serve fast food.
@DominickChristensen
@DominickChristensen Месяц назад
Kasonoff realy had to fuck up a good movie, who agree?
@waddupjd
@waddupjd Месяц назад
I mean, it was probably doomed from the start but I love the old non mo-capped animation
@zachgreenwood202
@zachgreenwood202 Месяц назад
I agree
@patrinizer346
@patrinizer346 Месяц назад
He is incompetent as he is despicable.
@DominickChristensen
@DominickChristensen Месяц назад
Was that a minions reference?
@michaelbullen3104
@michaelbullen3104 Месяц назад
Lmao this wouldn’t have been a good movie either way it looks like major GARBAGE
@MacenW
@MacenW Месяц назад
4:40 mannnm we missed out on this
@Iloveyou-dz7mq
@Iloveyou-dz7mq Месяц назад
this is so early 2000's, i love it.
@enigmatic_gale1046
@enigmatic_gale1046 Месяц назад
Why does this look better than the final film
@Elvusmiw
@Elvusmiw Месяц назад
Who sung the copa cobanana theme in the trailer? Also I love how even the singer doesn't know what an xobite is? Brand x. Xobite. Bite?
@ZiggyCashmere
@ZiggyCashmere Месяц назад
Michael Lloyd
@Elvusmiw
@Elvusmiw Месяц назад
@@ZiggyCashmere hes a good singer. Sad his song wasn't played In the actual movie.
@billybarnett9518
@billybarnett9518 15 дней назад
​@@ElvusmiwHe was one of the singers on "Fire In The Skies" ru-vid.com5-bzwoIBSJQ
@mellojoe9421
@mellojoe9421 Месяц назад
As much as I will give some credit to the better animation, I think this film would still have been bad in the sense of its story, and would have faded into obscurity because it wouldn’t have been as memorable as it is in its release state in 2012. HOWEVER, because of its abominable animation, is why the film is still remembered and talked about today
@PeaceGrrl
@PeaceGrrl Месяц назад
Wow, if they kept this more fluid animation and add more texture and shading in some scenes, this movie might be passable to watch. I mean it may not make a difference in the story so that won’t help make it a better film but atleast it be less of an eyesore 😅
@DellDivioDevoe
@DellDivioDevoe Месяц назад
4:49 this kinda made me chuckle, makes me wish we had the actual film.
@broformers6433
@broformers6433 Месяц назад
So the animation just went from bad to worse basically
@goergebobicles1351
@goergebobicles1351 Месяц назад
Its a mixed bag of quality. It's clear some things are more finished than others. Though after seeing this footage, they really should have overhauled Dan's design or even scrapped him." His photo on the side of the plane is passable at best, but his model is an absolute disaster.
@DominickChristensen
@DominickChristensen 11 дней назад
I wonder what happens when somebody breaks in and sees this at night
@CodyStith
@CodyStith 21 день назад
So much better animation, but the animation of Leonard driving out of his parking space is pretty incorrect, because he is supposed to reversing straight out and then steering right and shift to drive, just saying, the reel overall is still great
@alansepicvideos9083
@alansepicvideos9083 20 дней назад
It really is crazy how think how fascinating to see this when the movie we have is the way it is. This movie could have worked if they had a real director and producer.
@user-dk5oy7yj4q
@user-dk5oy7yj4q Месяц назад
Why couldn't we have got this instead I tell you the animation is so much better then the freakish movement in the final
@nefty_plus
@nefty_plus Месяц назад
Thank you for that, mate!
@Finn_the_Cat
@Finn_the_Cat 22 дня назад
If you made a video of First Draft vs Finished product and put this as Finished product and the actual Finished product as first draft someone who hasn't seen the movie would believe that no question it had so much of a regression in quality it's amazing how you can go from the bottom to the even lower
@seasaltcosmos
@seasaltcosmos 25 дней назад
i can't believe that after 22 years, there's ACTUAL footage of the original movie from 2002.
@powertheimmortal
@powertheimmortal Месяц назад
why did they get rid of the squash and stretch? Im like amazed by the lack of floatiness and unnecessary limb flailing.
@KTKomedy2813
@KTKomedy2813 Месяц назад
Just remember: We might have gotten a better-animated feature had things not really gone to Hell, but since Lawrence Kasanoff was still the director, the film still would’ve been shit.
@txwtw
@txwtw 19 дней назад
Is anyone gonna mention how gorgeous Lady X looks in this version? Like holy smokes is she stunning in this ver damn-
@crunkestgirl
@crunkestgirl 14 дней назад
ok bro you sound like ur getting a boner by just looking at the character design
@jotarokujo4787
@jotarokujo4787 20 дней назад
why is lady x a baddie in this one omggg
@ZiggyCashmere
@ZiggyCashmere 20 дней назад
Larry?
@asteroidrules
@asteroidrules Месяц назад
Interesting how you can see the sponsors who dropped out. It definitely added to the cost overruns that they had to redo their scenes.
@beanbagg3895
@beanbagg3895 24 дня назад
The movie would still suck even with this early animation concept, but it still would’ve been great animation for its time
@zelenyyspaz
@zelenyyspaz 21 день назад
I genuinely hope someday the parts of the movie that they finished will be released, it looks so much better than what we have now.
@ZiggyCashmere
@ZiggyCashmere 21 день назад
This is all that was finished. This is it. There isn't more to find besides maybe 45 seconds.
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