For Honor: Black Prior Realism Analysis pt. 2 

Black Prior part 3 is out! If you want to vote for what hero you would like to see next, the poll will be on that video! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VejUFyaTzaQ.html

"All the Armors have Rust" Tiandi: Is this some kind of peasant joke that I'm too rich to understand?

I don't know why they added a fighting mechanic to this fashion game

Black Priors Sacramentum Mortis headgear actually removes the users nose, switch between it and other equipment and it is clear.

The symbol on his armour has nothing to do with Phi, it is the symbol of the order the Sol Tenebris, or the Black Sun. You can see it on flags in harbour.

Last time I was this early there weren't any romans in for honor.

There was a popular Reddit post when he was released, sacramentum mortis is so close to his face it looks like he cut his nose off.

I like to use the Black Prior not because he's edgy but because I can just say "no you" while tossing my enemies trying to do Anything

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I always thought Black Prior's crown was a reference to historical "battle crowns" that would be welded to a kings helmet whenever he was leading his troops into battle. I can recall kings like Richard The Lionheart and Henry V being pictured wearing such a crown.

Remember that For honor is set in the 2000s something, and by the description of the era by apollyon in the campaing they didnt advance technologically because of the constant war, either betwen factions or inside each faction between its own clans. So aparently there were few or none who understood the way of improoving stuff (or they didnt live enough to improve it), so they just replicated these old tecnologies and made impractical modifications to it, or bizzare ones at that, (like the balista/catapults that every faction shared, or the balista that shoots bridges or whatever) its like they just stole what worked and made it theirs by applying some aestethic to it (guess this is why Warden doesnt have consistent armor and its just s mesh of metal and mail or something ha). This maybe why they have such impractical designs, and exagerated bodys at that, they literally live in some cadia like world where they only are born to fight and some of them might have kind of "evolved" to fit the enviroment of war, like Lawbros and Raiders maybe

Honestly I would like to see more historically realistic armor for all the knights, also have you ever thought about working for Ubisoft😂

Ahhh general kenobi. They needa make a mask that kinda looks like general greiv.

My favorite helmet is Erzabet's Valor, but only because it covers the neck and doesn't have a fur collar. I also use the Vasago arms because I don't like the demon on the full mail variants.

Sorry for such a delay in releasing another video. Quarantine is starting to get to me and it's causing me sort of an executive dysfunction to where I just don't want to be spending 20+ hours editing a video. This video alone had me spend at least around 8 accumulative hours just trying to render, upload, and process the video which involves me doing nothing but monitor a loading bar making sure it's still going (because if I don't, there have been multiple hours in the past wasted because it froze along the way). That doesn't even include the multitude of hours in writing the script, finding pictures, doing research, and editing the footage. I want to do part 3 for this soon, but at the same time it's hard because I much rather do something that I feel is enjoyable instead of something that is a bit of a chore. Don't get me wrong. I am still planning on working on these videos to the extent that I can, but I just wanted to put this out there to tell everyone that if I don't release Part 3 within the next week or so, it's probably because I'm playing Bannerlord or Escape From Tarkov or something, and not because I died. I appreciate all of you that watch these videos though, and I just wanted to fill you guys in on what's going on. P.S. If you happen to be a max level mega-chad in Tarkov and you want to help me get through some of the early god awful gatekeeping quests, lmk

The sacrementum Mortis helm makes him look like the taskmaster

In my opinion I don’t care that it isn’t “historically accurate”. If it’s cool it’s ok Edit: I don’t mean “cool” as edgy or something, Im saying that if it looks good, it’s ok

Ain't no sunshine when she's gone, only DAEKNETH everyday.

i always wished that ubi would give bp a black houndskull under a hood, thats how we used to make a "plague doctor" in morhau. idk i just feel like it would kinda fit his edgy aesthetic

Will you ever do the Fresh Prince of Beijing himself, tiandi?

Erzabet’s Valor Helmet: Protection: 4 Vision: 3 Ventilation: 7 Fashion: 10

Great video, as always! Those metal crowns that BP wears may be inspired by Vortigern from King Arthur movie - there was a idea that the whole character look is inspired by him actually.

I know this might not be your strong point but, as a Tiandi’s main I would really like to see a in-depth walkthrough of Tiandi’s move set and stances, I find watching Tiandi’s elegant, it’s just a proposition

Nice video man, but im pretty sure BP has leprosy in the Sacramentum Mortis mask. you can see some dead skin if you turn the brightness all the way up and also by the lack of nose. About the murmur helmet, it looks like he has Vitiligo. Sorry for the bad english btw, not my main language. Hope its at least understandable.

if this hasn't already been said about sacramentum mortis helm, if you look closely where his eyes are, you can see(in which i think) some kind of burns around his eyes,which i think hints at bp's face being burned/injured and probably supports the fact that his nose was cut or burned off.

What bugs me is that Ubisoft spelt the name wrong It should be "Black Priar" Priar translates to Bible verse/hymm which makes 100% more sense then prior which roughly means something happening before an event

When are you doing the peacekeepers analysis. Youre best for honor youtuber.

23:07 lawbringer: am I a joke to you?

GoGoDani, the phi symbol on bp's gear "according to the Lore" is the cult he's apart of apparently

Just gonna say, I got 4 minutes in and subscribed this was my first video and I already love your style, opinions backed up with facts and logic. Keep up the great work!

I'm fairly certain the symbol on the shoulder plates is called tenebris sol from the black prior event.

His is content I never knew I needed in my life, got yourself a new subscriber. Keep up the great work sir

Finally a For Honor channel that talks about the armor and realism comparison. I'm gald that I got you in my recommended page. subbed

Look up Ferdinand II’s armor. That entire set is covered with engravings of demons. May or may not have ever seen practical usage given the owner was nobility, but point being demons on armor was definitely a thing at one point.

I've been looking forward to this.

“What we could’ve had “ and it’s just warden with a hood on 😂😂😂

Great content as usual Dani

People who say For Honor isn't realistic as an argument when realism is brought up probably started playing late in the game's life. When the game was released it was obviously going for the realism crowd, with the murder-stroke being shown off in the trailer.

I am not sure what the popular opinion is but the Erzbet's Valor Helm on release was far better than I could have ever asked for and loved it so much I never took it off literally after I got it it's just amazing, my ideal knight helmet. Then again, this is realism analysis lol

>Helmet and a face mask Theoretically, the skullcap and the face mask could, actually, be all-one-piece, and it just looks like separate pieces because of how the headband and hood sit on the helmet.

The “crowns” were more like bands historically that they would put over hoods and head garments to keep them tight in the head or in position. They would keep it from slipping off or shifting into their line of sight

The queen's pawn helm reminds me of a greek corinthian helmet, but fully enclosed on the face.

Also keep in mind that the horns on helmets really just make grappling for your opponent easier

For the helmets with horns you forgot to mention that the enemy can use the horns as a grappling point and can control black prior if he ends up in that situation

I enjoy the Queen's Pawn helmet due to the fact that it reminds me so much from Dark Souls, there was an NPC called Creighton who has a somewhat similar helmet, in game it's referred to as, "Creighton's mask"

I love these 3am uploads definently subscribing lmao

Talking about Erzebet's Valor helm i tried imagining that the mask and the head piece actually welded through each other with the hood piece in between them, like some screws that combine the mask and the headpiece itself *through* the cloth of the hood, so that the whole thing is a full piece, not three separate pieces on top of each other. That's the most logical thing I could think of to picture it being as practical as it could get.

Hey man, been binge watching your vids lately, finally subscribed, I just wish that when you're talking about the armor you wouldn't spin as much, because as soon as you mention something, I have to wait for the model to spin around to see what you're talking about, specifically the greek symbol on the Camio's Legacy arms. Thanks, keep it up!

taking out the armpit is a really good way to disable the entire arm, even if you miss the arteries

The Queen's Palm helm reminds me a lot of a closed-off Greek helm. It's the eyes, curved back, and the sort of tapers towards the bottom of the front that give it this look. They made the front way flatter, and got rid of the massive angles though. It does remind me a lot of valk, also

Great Video, thanks man. One thing I'd like to see for BP, although I'm unsure of it's historical accuracy, is the coif helm King Arthur wears in Monty Python. It looks really cool in my opinion, and could give us less edge for BP depending on how Ubi does it.

You probably know this but I think the reason the black prior wears light chest armour is because he has a shield which kind of compensates for it, but yeah I don't know man just thought I would mention it, nice video btw I appreciate you making realism analysis videos I'm glad someone takes this game remotely seriously I always mention the historical inaccuracies in the sword combat like why the hell do they never use the point of the sword?? Like I mean at least black prior has a thrusting attack but that's only from above, ah I'm straying of topic nice video man 👍

Can´t wait for the Highlander Analysis!

That new helmet might be one item. Like, the cap is bolted to the mask with the hood in the middle. The bowl cap bolts the hood, and itself, to the mask, rendering it as a single piece of gear.

I think the whole having more rust thing makes sense because the black priors basically came out of retirement. However that whole thing gets thrown in out when you look at how clean everything except his helmets is (as you pointed out)

Erzebet helmets hood seems to not be full hood, it looks like it’s missing the top part and is basically pinned under the crown.

i mean His armour still looks cool... Good video my guy :)

to be fair on the Erzsebet's Valor helm the armor wasn't designed with combat in mind, Ubi explicitly stated the armor from Y4S1 was created as decoration for the Truce of Wyvrendale in the lore. this is also why the other armors from warden, LB, kensai, and the Wu-Lin are very flashy and colorful

Coming from a blacksmith, the set up for the erzebet's valor helm is probably skullcap with a riveted face plate and the hood sandwiched in the middle separate from the rest of the outfit

Also about the Murmur Helm, i think that's bone powder, like Jörmungandr uses.

The black prior has a lore of after being part of apolyons main army they went into dispear after apolyons defeat they went into the shadows but where called upon when their home castle/settlement and where called upon to take up arms so from that analogy this can be a reason for the rust on his armour.

The erzebet helm seems to be having the hood come out of the crown part and the whole helmet is underneath as one piece. That’s what it looks like to me at least

Talks about the idea of people back then accepting eventual death - "That's more history than what we really need right now." i like how he says this even though he goes through hell and back to try and find historical similarities/differences for the armors and uses them to debunk the in-game armors because they're not completely historically accurate XD.

The symbol on the pauldrons is the black prior order symbol, it represents a crossed out sun, thus expressing the order of the black priors crusade to bring darkness to the world

This is what I gather from Erzebet’s Valor: He is wearing a connected helmet face mask combo or a full helmet even, but the crown from which the hood is draped is a separate unit that goes over the helmet after it’s put on. I know that the upper helmet and the face plate look like they’re on different planes, implying that they’re two separate units, but I don’t think was the initial point of the concept. This could be a discrepancy between the concept artwork and the 3D modeling, maybe the result of two modelers working on the same piece at different times without great communication, or maybe just a mistake brought about by time constraints and the limitations of re-used assets. Shoot, I now see that the crown is actually connected to the helmet, so that discredits everything I just said.

I'm looking forward to a Gladiator video as there were many different types and Ubi probably could make a game similar to for for Honor, just with the different types of Gladiators

Love these analysis tbh

Queen's Pawn gives me Gladiator vibes. that one he wears when he first gets to the colosseum

Dude Black Prior is so jacked it looks like he’s about to snap the belts holding his pauldrons in place

I don't have any historical adjustments for hood either, but it can serve a purpose of keeping BP's bald head from sun and heat (I mean crusades and stuff, there's a desert there, so, maybe smth like that)

I had read that the masks could potentially be a reference to people with leprosy and the leper king

With the new armours out, what has changed? What is the most historically accurate?

I think the point of the rust was to show that the heroes were in constant fighting and did not have time to rest and take care of their armor (weapons seem to be different though at higher levels)

From what I know of on the goods, Black Prior has a chain mail hood underneath... Though I doubt that makes much difference. Outside of this random stuff, thanks for the video!

I want to believe that the black prior's basic helm is a reference to king Arthur's from monthly python's holy grail, but edgier.

I’d like to see you do a video showing off what you would use a purely aesthetic choice and no historical accuracy that’s seems like an interesting topic

i may be wrong but the number 5 that makes the black priors symbol is because the battle the black prior was supposed to have fought in happened during season 5

7:16 those helmets look amazing i want those in the game

What if, for the Erzebet’s Valor helm, it is actually a helmet and mask conjoined, but the hood isn’t actually a hood, just fabric stuffed into the helmet?

The fi symbol is sol tenebris meaning dark sun which is supposed to be the first stage of all creation

I remember a tour guide in castle muiderslot (the Netherlands) saying something about using hoods to show that they aren't afraid and are very good fighters, though it was only a guide and years ago so might not be 100% correct

(Steadfast Rock helm) Lawbringer: I know your pain

Best bp chest for armor is queens pawn as it seems to be made out of some form of metal in my opinion

19:50 The Japanese samurai have a mempo mask which is often demonic mask which use ti scare people while also offer more protection, difference is this is probably more useful than that elbow piece

Now that I watch this realize how much cooler a new helm where he wears a hood over his helm would look

Looks awesome😎👍

The armor sets such as Vassago, Murmur, Dantalion, Forcas, and Camio are all names of real Demons all of which have specific roles. This gives the Black Prior a more edgy feel and possibly more dark. Just a FYI if you look at the new armor set The Demonic Primordial, if you look at the chest piece on the left side are 3 Crosses on a hill but the hills are skulls. In the Bible it's related to Jesus and the 2 criminals he was crucified with. Again it's a more edgy look and the skulls obviously mean "death" The Dies Irae armor and shield is related to a Latin hymn that talks about Jesus's 2nd coming. Interesting fact: The name Apollyon is another Demon name and in For Honor she is basically Lucifer. Chaos, madness, and no peace. This game has a lot of references to real life and the Bible as well.

You could definitely make a video about how For Honor has been getting less realistic ever since Marching Fire released! I see a lot of potential

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Finally, someone who's as bothered as me about the coif situation!

WAY late but Queens pawns helm reminded me of those guards helms in whiterun from skyrim.

The helmet with the cloak (forgot the name) would be the best helmet in my opinion if it wasn't for the damn ketle helm he has, the crown would still be good but then he has another helmet on top of his helmest which is under a cloak/hood.

For honor needs to hire you

couldn't the hood part of the erzebet's valor just be attached to the helmet? Like just a full helm but cloth under the crown?

I talked about the similarity to Dante's head piece in the release trailer of the character, but I doubt you're talking about my comment.

Maybe the erzabets valor helm had the skull cap riveted to the underlying helm/mask with the cloth in between.

Sorry if I missed this part in the video, but why is Black Priors armor better than Lawbringers?

What if the erzabet's valour helm is one piece of headgear. As in, the hood doesn't have a top, but is attached to the helmet underneath the crown, and the cap and facemask are in fact one solid piece of metal. Style points!

I think the armor has rust to give the immersion of it being used. I actually perfer it since having clean armor all the time is immersion breaking. But I won't be against having the choice to have it clean or not.

Id love it if you do an analysis on Aramusha move set looks really unique I’d can’t help but question it each time he fights someone especially his all guard like dang🤔😉