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For Honor - FULL Revenge Guide - Tag System, Revenge Amount & Properties 

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This video took quite a while to make.
The information gathering process itself was quite something. A huge thanks to everyone who helped make it!
This should clear up most questions anyone can have about the current iteration of the revenge system.
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0:00 - Intro
0:45 - Tag System Introduction
2:40 - Tag System 1v2 Example
3:31 - Tag System 2v2 Example
4:38 - Tag System 3v2 Example
5:57 - Revenge Amount
11:08 - Revenge Attacks Feat
12:36 - Revenge Properties
15:12 - Some Revenge Problems

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@gravitational8245
@gravitational8245 3 года назад
ok no bait comments on this one cause fridge worked real hard on it
@Nutella.
@Nutella. 3 года назад
very poggers
@draco_shifty
@draco_shifty 3 года назад
Don’t mind me I just watched fridge explain revenge
@lorddem1659
@lorddem1659 3 года назад
Kudos Freeze well structured and very informational.
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 3 года назад
Thank you for helping :D
@Blackwolf-ud5je
@Blackwolf-ud5je 3 года назад
One extra small info : If two people fight who both have revenge, GB immunity beats out GBs ignoring normal GB vulnerability rules, meaning that if you are in revenge, you cannot GB through attacks of an opponent who is also in revenge.
@Infinitee
@Infinitee 3 года назад
Ubi should place a link to this video on the home screen at this point, because this is a video that everyone needs to see. Very informational and straight to the point, thanks for this video Freeze
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 3 года назад
Thank you infinite
@joshkershaw4575
@joshkershaw4575 3 года назад
Ubi should just link freezes YT channel instead of having their training feature
@MXAntian
@MXAntian 3 года назад
So, it's easier for hero with lower HP pool to fill their revenge bar, and faster for the revenge to drain for them. Is it safe to assume that every hero gain revenge at the same rate in the same condition, but heroes with lower HP pool simply has a shorter revenge meter? Thus it take less revenge juice to fill their bar. Instead of you said that they gain more revenge from the same attack? ((x+120)/7.7)-((x+140)/9.2)=0 is solvable, thus revenge capacity could be some multiplier times base hp - some number. Just my thought, mathematically it works out.
@keenengierhart3951
@keenengierhart3951 3 года назад
Nerd
@bonefat21
@bonefat21 3 года назад
I'm almost positive this is how it works. Having more HP does not change the raw number of 'revenge points' you gain per attack, rather having more HP means you have a larger bar, and therefore more 'revenge points' are needed to fill it. In game, all bars are the same size, which is why you see proportionally less of the visual bar fill up on a high HP hero.
@VryTox
@VryTox 3 года назад
Yep this was what I was thinking while watching the video, seems more likely to be the case
@amadeodante
@amadeodante 2 года назад
x=-17.33333333333…
@Dredguno
@Dredguno 3 года назад
really wish the timers and tags were shown in game, even if it's just for yourself. Revenge is such a pivotal mechanic in this game that it deserves to be visible.
@spicysalad3013
@spicysalad3013 Год назад
Knowing some players they wouldn't pay attention if the numbers were bigger than their enemy and still find a way to not take responsibility
@EldynvanDijk
@EldynvanDijk 3 года назад
I thought I knew how it worked, but I learned already more halfway through this video than I thought I was going to learn.
@soul3451
@soul3451 3 года назад
Based Freeze. Time to share that as much as possible, thank you for your work, gamer!
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 3 года назад
cheers mojo :D
@damummy3723
@damummy3723 3 года назад
Honestly the idea of revenge popping instantly sounds like a good idea as it removes the scenario of "But I pressed the button!?!", it would fix revenge holding AND you could focus more on the actual gank rather than having a less to fight that has to hover over the revenge button.
@spicysalad3013
@spicysalad3013 Год назад
Would also remove the embarrassment of accidentally emoting
@thelionofjudah5318
@thelionofjudah5318 7 месяцев назад
It would also be more balanced as some people don't press revenge instantly and like to hold it off to give scary pressure to the opposing team.
@jcloudy8508
@jcloudy8508 3 года назад
Freeze is like that one science teacher left at school who isnt there because of the job anymore, he just likes getting people to understand things
@Mattman_90
@Mattman_90 3 года назад
At this point Ubi should just have your channel link on For Honor's main menu. Excellent work and thank you. The format for tags was incredibly helpful.
@Daddydeathv2
@Daddydeathv2 3 года назад
Finally i can show this yo my friends that play. After what.. 4 years? I understood it very well but still learned a lot from this video. Now i can bless my new friends with this video. Thanks Freeze
@crusadercarlos2345
@crusadercarlos2345 3 года назад
I can finally show my cave man teammates how this system works. Thanks man
@EmptyTenementSpirit
@EmptyTenementSpirit 3 года назад
Very glad to finally have concrete video examples on this. I can only hope the community listens to the advice it gives, please god.
@xsorakazamax7522
@xsorakazamax7522 3 года назад
doesnt always work. its suppose to be like this but im pretty sure youve seen the 1v4s where people are constantly attacking and you got a guy parrying up to 5x and the revenge doesn't raise. there will be bugs in a game but its just too consistent here.
@EmptyTenementSpirit
@EmptyTenementSpirit 3 года назад
@@xsorakazamax7522 Pretty sure that doesn't happen.
@thedogguy2137
@thedogguy2137 2 года назад
@@EmptyTenementSpirit you haven’t played for honor have you
@EmptyTenementSpirit
@EmptyTenementSpirit 2 года назад
@@thedogguy2137 I've played it for the entire time the game has been out, and to this day, I am still disappointed in the people who play this game.
@ianrazz8780
@ianrazz8780 3 года назад
Amazing vid, mister fridge
@judgeharrell46
@judgeharrell46 3 года назад
8:57 when she says she’s just playing for honor with the guys
@joaodiniz3481
@joaodiniz3481 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure shaman can handle 4 ༼ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ༽
@bllitss
@bllitss 3 года назад
I posted a reddit post about how revenge should go down after about ten seconds of holding, and most people complained that this would make revenge incredibly weak, I argued and argued, but this is reddit so no winning that one. Revenge holding is a problem especially in team fights.
@spookytimescaryvideos4395
@spookytimescaryvideos4395 2 года назад
dont be ganking trash then
@bllitss
@bllitss 2 года назад
@@spookytimescaryvideos4395 brezhor what?
@hanticleer1372
@hanticleer1372 3 года назад
One small addition to the super armor section. Nuxia's traps are still vulnerable to all forms of interruption.
@casualchaos1074
@casualchaos1074 Год назад
Wow, I had no idea that the revenge system was so elaborate. Thank you for this
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 3 года назад
Huh, so that's how it works. A bit more complex than I thought. Great video Freeze, thank you a lot for the information.
@SgtBearPatrol
@SgtBearPatrol 3 года назад
This is incredible. By far the best video you've ever made. I've been playing since launch, and, while I know enough to not throw random heavies in ganks, there was so much more that I didn't know. Thanks for this. I hope it will help the general population, especially in general MM.
@Zayl1016
@Zayl1016 3 года назад
That tag system was explained really thoroughly and does explain a few rage times I had where I was wondering where my revenge was at. Thanks for the vid!
@bentowww1465
@bentowww1465 3 года назад
Thanks for the info Mr. Below 0°
@la_garde_sombre
@la_garde_sombre 3 года назад
@Freeze Thanks mate !! incredible job you have done !! Many hours of work here !! Again thank you for explaining revenge in deep detail ! Stay safe mate !!
@monsalai
@monsalai 3 года назад
Ive always considered myself very in-tune with metering revenge gain and knowing when somebody has it, and even I learned quite a bit! Thats what we like to see boys, good job freeze
@animugril2166
@animugril2166 3 года назад
The effort put into this video is astonishing.
@EJAPhyrex
@EJAPhyrex 3 года назад
Hell yeah! Been waiting on this video for a while and it was worth it. Thanks a lot my dude.
@peytongibbs2171
@peytongibbs2171 3 года назад
*Chef's Kiss* This is God's work you're doin Freezer.
@Waltarwhiet
@Waltarwhiet 3 года назад
Damn, I never thought such a long video can come out of this subject. You've outdone yourself freeze, thanks for your effort!
@sc3961
@sc3961 3 года назад
YEeeeeesss! Finally! Good on you Freeze! I liked and am already subbed. Ok, now to watch the video ^^
@motivatedguy4102
@motivatedguy4102 3 года назад
Thank you for making this guide. Now I can gank effectively and not scream, "Where is my Revenge?", when I dont get it in an antigank.
@art1099
@art1099 3 года назад
The only thing i didn’t really know was that when your opponents have equal or more tags they don’t feed. I knew everything else from previous freeze videos anyway though, so, great job!
@rorytulip9343
@rorytulip9343 3 года назад
Holy fuck this is some high-effort/high-quality educational content! Good job man!
@BigFizzy.-
@BigFizzy.- 3 года назад
Great vid man, appreciate all the work you put in 👍
@Forkontheleft
@Forkontheleft 3 года назад
Thanks for the detailed work freeze
@tiocroc4814
@tiocroc4814 3 года назад
Very good video. Very informative. I honestly think this is the best and most important video ever made by this channel. My amount of rage will probably decrease by like 50% while playing dominion. This video will make the game much more fun and healthy for me since I will understand it better. Thank you very much for this video, very very helpful.
@tiocroc4814
@tiocroc4814 3 года назад
I previously thought that if there were two people locked on me, and one of them attack me, my revenge bar would be filled. As many times it was not filled at all, I got pissed and thought that the game was broken. Now I understand, I will stop complaining and start playing more strategically.
@pastorlul2384
@pastorlul2384 3 года назад
I was just trying to figure this out. Thanks.
@phoenixfoxx8382
@phoenixfoxx8382 3 года назад
Nice video bro, really helpful.
@danielhines366
@danielhines366 2 года назад
Thanks my man. Very helpful.
@atlasfishmo
@atlasfishmo 3 года назад
Very valuable information and very much needed to say the least
@grimm8528
@grimm8528 3 года назад
That was WAAAAAAYYYYYYYY more complicated than ii thought
@poopsock2800
@poopsock2800 2 года назад
thanks for the guide bro, found myself dying in 4v1s with very little revenge and decided to look for help
@jamilsalman8321
@jamilsalman8321 3 года назад
This is very helpful i did not know anything about the tag system andni always wondered why my revenge was always at a sliver
@alexumitsuu3237
@alexumitsuu3237 3 года назад
The revenge graphics you made has me proud. Your effort should not go unnoticed mr fridge
@nelsonrupiza7789
@nelsonrupiza7789 3 года назад
I kinda get what they were trying to do with the tag system but I can't help but feel that it can be easily exploited.
@rickynonays2194
@rickynonays2194 3 года назад
It’s kind of amazing that You gotta go out of your way to learn the ins and outs of one of the games main mechanics..
@reelgesh51
@reelgesh51 3 года назад
Tbf rainbow six seige is like that too Uvisoft just has a knack for not giving a tutorial or explanation
@naitodesu9522
@naitodesu9522 3 года назад
Imagine working hard on a video to inform the community and be called toxic and killing the game
@vittorio1727
@vittorio1727 3 года назад
only because he plays strong heroes he gets shit on
@naitodesu9522
@naitodesu9522 3 года назад
​@@vittorio1727 so every knight main is toxic and killing the game
@youswallow11
@youswallow11 3 года назад
@@vittorio1727 Yeah just ignore the fact he's the only youtuber that publish these kinds of videos
@vittorio1727
@vittorio1727 3 года назад
@@youswallow11 yeah he plays conq and shugo so his points are invalid and people should not take him seriously
@tkberzerker3605
@tkberzerker3605 3 года назад
@@vittorio1727 if you're joking, this is hilarious, if not, you have no idea what you're talking about
@thekleanupkrew8381
@thekleanupkrew8381 3 года назад
What a saint you are
@WhatInTarnation123
@WhatInTarnation123 3 года назад
Very useful, thanks
@willk7508
@willk7508 3 года назад
Thank you freeze very cool
@ScrubxxLord
@ScrubxxLord 3 года назад
Saw what the video was about and liked it about 3 seconds in. Also I know you mentioned revenge throw can be interrupted via bash/offensive feat, I've noticed that interaction also applies to the entirety of the revenge guard-break where it can be interrupted via bash/feat, so just to make sure it's known, if you are in revenge while in a ledge position DON'T guard-break a bash as it will still knock you back, throw a regular attack instead so you'll super armor through it.
@thedungeondweller
@thedungeondweller 3 года назад
Fantastic Vid ❤️
@LtsMaestro
@LtsMaestro 3 года назад
I haven't played since warmonger release, thanks for the refresher on this so I don't tilt my mates when returning
@calamari3064
@calamari3064 3 года назад
Don't worry, Warmonger is good now and rather easy to face against if you know your stuff
@OXhuls
@OXhuls 3 года назад
wow. awesome video. thx. i really learned sth and know how to better myelf
@Lion_of_Sparta
@Lion_of_Sparta 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, and that anti gank with kensei was actually pretty good. I have a video idea i thought you could make, if you wish of course. Its about jormungandr, explaining why hes unhealthy, why he isnt op, what needs to be done and changed for the hero. Its just a thought.
@mongrelshadow14
@mongrelshadow14 3 года назад
I was informed a few months ago that the same amount of tags prevents revenge gain. I didn't think to extrapolate that to more than just two tags. So this is great to know. Overall amazing video. Though I still worry that people will think revenge needs buffs because they occasionally get interrupted or guard broken because they forget things like recoveries still exist in revenge.
@maitiha1312
@maitiha1312 Год назад
Thanks man! Really needed this! Awesome video!
@endscreenguy8260
@endscreenguy8260 Год назад
No idea whos the fridge man but thank you very much, very useful I've been looking for the answers for too long
@vicedeep
@vicedeep 3 года назад
Thanks Freeze
@TheBananaminge
@TheBananaminge 3 года назад
Does the whole ‘holding revenge by locking onto heroes’ thing work when locking into non-hero characters such as officers, guardian and commander in breach?
@brunocostaling2988
@brunocostaling2988 3 года назад
Yes, tested by accident it today (I am certain it does with officers, but idk about the others)
@nyarlathotep9745
@nyarlathotep9745 3 года назад
Yes any unit that you can manually lock on to either that be an opponent handled by a real person or AI(enemy bots, officers, commanders, guardians) allows you to sustain your revenge bar.
@JDT979
@JDT979 3 года назад
Sometimes I get mad at revenge "not working", then I rewatch this video and I get sad again because it was just me being bad. Jokes aside, I do actually watch the video somewhat regularly, it's incredibly helpful.
@AL2DYT
@AL2DYT 3 года назад
Very good video ngl
@iffyfox9749
@iffyfox9749 3 года назад
Great video
@Tsurumaking
@Tsurumaking 3 года назад
This has been one of your best videos ! I honestly never understood why revenge was not activating when team gancs were happening. The tag system is definitely not my fave, managing an invisible tag system based upon opponents tags seems absurd
@ozzi2355
@ozzi2355 3 года назад
Great Video! Thumbs up. One thing I was always curious about: does Gear Score affect the amount of revenge gained? Since you did not mention it, I guess it's not a thing, but for me it certainly feels that way.
@nuke1863
@nuke1863 3 года назад
Excellent and very detailed guide! I already knew some Things about tags and that you need 2 tags at least to get revenge but im sure i need to look Up this video some times again especially for that Part around 3:30 with more Players than a 2v2. Atm i really cant See myself having an overview about so many tags on more than 3 players, but time will tell and maybe i get better! Keep your good content coming! Edit: however i have a question about unlocked attack: If i Hit someone without being locked onto him, do i add a tag and/or even Feed revenge? Sorry If you already showed that and i missed it
@youswallow11
@youswallow11 3 года назад
Great vid
@lulu7602
@lulu7602 3 года назад
Now I can try to do less stupid things when I gank. It's very helpful!! 同時也感謝中文字幕!
@Criiies
@Criiies 3 года назад
Well done
@nyceplayz8051
@nyceplayz8051 Год назад
Thank you
@GodsHeart-ej9ti
@GodsHeart-ej9ti 3 года назад
One thing I would like to see tested on revenge is removing the “auto parry” feature on activation and replace it with a small AoE knockdown so you can use activation more offensively or defensively
@eggymart6035
@eggymart6035 3 года назад
gonna link this to every mm gamer, thanks
@h.d8726
@h.d8726 3 года назад
Problem with not being able to hold ur revenge infinitely is ppl running away so ur forced to waste ur revenge on nothing. I know those that do that usually roll away once u pop revenge but now theyll do it before u even do that so u wont even get the benefit of the auto parry
@CptHalbsteif
@CptHalbsteif 3 года назад
When being impaled by warmonger, you are (or used to idk if it's still in the game) able to still get attacked, gain full damage but the impale still goes on plus the blood damage after hitting a wall. Had that happen to me once or twice already and wanted to know if you could maybe check it out
@catwiffhat4274
@catwiffhat4274 3 года назад
poggers video mr refrigerator
@advancednoob4774
@advancednoob4774 3 года назад
The perfect "how to revenge" video *does* exist.
@mlowd5753
@mlowd5753 3 года назад
THANK YOU MR FREEZE I was getting so tired of streamers telling the player base "oH wHy DoEsN't AnYoNe KnOw hOw rEVENge WorkS" NOW I KNOW
@bleach_meds599
@bleach_meds599 3 года назад
When I still played I had a teammate die in a 2v2, and when the JJ executed him, he tossed his dead body at his own teammate, a BP. That BP proceeded to GET REVENGE in a 2v1 situation. While I know that many people misunderstood the tag system and it’s untold fundamental complexity by the developers, I think it’s fair to say that the system either needs some minor adjustments, or the tag system needs to be switched out for a proximity-based structure. They already have potential coding for this type of system, with proximity being a factor for some feats in the game. The tag system, requiring consistent waiting to lose tags in ganks, encourages a slower paced gameplay than if proximity was used to consider revenge gain for a player.
@LeRoyt97
@LeRoyt97 3 года назад
Not sure if this has been answered yet. Does Centurion's kick still work against enemies with revenge? Last time I played I always wondered why his worked and no one else's did.
@SanctuaryGhost
@SanctuaryGhost 3 года назад
You should do a vid on disappearing indicators
@DekaDanske
@DekaDanske 3 года назад
@freeze i use the revenge as an animation cancel on parrys. so i get revenge and use an unblock attack when they parry i revenge and gb. usually only on raider.
@mrsmiley0492
@mrsmiley0492 3 года назад
Hey freeze can you do a video on the role per character class? Yes you can play who you want and how ever you want but I believe if you have a good time with communication and know their role in their team i feel are most likely to win in a 4v4 like dom or breach
@AsianSadge
@AsianSadge 3 года назад
The problem is role is not dependent on character class. Class means nothing outside of renown gain
@samreid5397
@samreid5397 3 года назад
I’m gonna enjoy rewatching this next time I get ganked ahaha
@franciscoavic9965
@franciscoavic9965 2 года назад
Thanks great vid. Didn't know about the tags. Pretty obvious that revenge holding should be taken off. As well as being able to build revenge while 1v1. One question though, if you feint an attack does that still put a tag on your enemy?
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 2 года назад
No, the attack needs to physically connect to add a tag
@onionyx6506
@onionyx6506 3 года назад
Thank you now I'll stop getting so salty over revenge because I can see where I went wrong etc!
@nafereuskortex9055
@nafereuskortex9055 2 года назад
So what prevents activation, for example being pinned by cent then knocked into a wall by jorm heavy finisher prevents you from activating but the pole charge from lb doesn't prevent it, you can activate it mid charge, why?
@darth_virtus
@darth_virtus 3 года назад
I'm sharing this with all people I play with
@dovahkiin_brasil
@dovahkiin_brasil 3 года назад
Berserk second feat: I like yours words magic man.
@m_hall
@m_hall 3 года назад
Thanks for the video freeze. @4:02 was a little confusing so let me get this straight. If your enemy still has at least 1 tag less than you, you may still not get revenge if he had multiple tags on him already, because in reality all tags needs to expire before you are able to receive revenge? What about this scenario: 1. Opponent has 3 tags. You have 3 tags 2. 1 of the tags expires for the opponent, bringing him to 2 tags. 3. He hits you, you still do not gain revenge. 4. Another one of the tags for your opponent expires, bringing him to 1 tag. Based on what freeze is saying, if the opponent hit you, you still would not get revenge until the last tag expired. However, what if another teammates hit the opponent, adding another tag? Now the opponent has 2 tags, and you have 3. Does that reset things so that if you were hit by the opponent would start gaining revenge again, or does that just delay the resetting of your opponent's tags so that you can actually gain revenge?? This is quite compilated. I'm also curious what would happen if you were the one to hit the opponent, bringing him to 2 tags when you had 3.
@emperorbunnybun7513
@emperorbunnybun7513 3 года назад
I can say I dont know it was time bassed, I though it was: -Have more tags then your opponents. -The enemy have to be with in a few meters from you to able to gain revenge.
@berengar405
@berengar405 3 года назад
I even watched all adds for you. Thx mate good work
@humanz8681
@humanz8681 2 года назад
something is wrong with my revenge bar, its not showing up i already turned it on in the settings but it still doesn't show up
@UnPokemon
@UnPokemon 3 года назад
Question about Revenge holding, you said players needs to be locked on a player, does it work if you lock onto an Officer, Commander or Guardian in Breach?
@theforknut2415
@theforknut2415 3 года назад
yes
@theforknut2415
@theforknut2415 3 года назад
as long as you are locked on something
@UnPokemon
@UnPokemon 3 года назад
@@theforknut2415 Gotcha, thanks
@potat7884
@potat7884 3 года назад
YOOOOOOOOO, Pog
@DoctorPastapus
@DoctorPastapus 3 года назад
Does superior attack on valk and so on count as a tag on you, your opponent or both? 😊 And can one opponent apply two tags to you or does second attack just reset your tag? 😊
@MERKINTHEMALL
@MERKINTHEMALL 3 года назад
so if I am fighting someone and my friend comes up and hits him once and then I dont hit him for 5 secs and neither does my friend, either of us can hit him at that point and no revenge gain
@joshkershaw4575
@joshkershaw4575 3 года назад
Little late to watching this video, but maybe the revenge bar is the same as your health bar? So if revenge uses a point system for each attack, and lower the health the quicker you get revenge, so shinobis 110 health, means he needs 110 points to gain revenge?
@theroguenob
@theroguenob 3 года назад
freeze do you know if valk will get a buff any time soon? She is really underrated but she just does so little damage compared to other characters with the same light/heavy characteristics.
@Zackathor
@Zackathor 2 года назад
I wonder if its time for an updated version of this video? I'm not an expert on how revenge works but i feel like theres a handful of things they've changed since then. I'm wondering if the feed revenge ability for specific characters is still a thing? I feel like they removed it since then but I'm not sure. And also does holding revenge still work the same? Like 5 seconds out of guard and you lose it or do you have it until you use or die now?
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 2 года назад
They removed the bar in the bottom left and the feat Revenge Attacks. The rest is still the same.
@masonoxley5823
@masonoxley5823 Год назад
Does the AEGIS perk affect the REVENGE shield amount?
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