Force Gurkha 2024: The Only Review You Need to Watch! 

Wow, thank you!

Thanks ! Yes , i hope that Force watches this too. Thats why i ended with the advice page. P.S: The person behind the review is only me. No team. No crew. And hence slow speed of production and upload! 😋

Sorry about that

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ha ha thanks bro!

Fortuner outsells every other competition for a reason. Fill it Shut it forget it! For its price, the Gurkha is a strong case for SPECIFIC roles. Master of oNe!

Thanks a ton

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I think so too! Especially after all our predictions got plugged into the G'24

Thanks for the appreciation and the info about the pintle hook. I learnt something.

My pleasure

Thanks😀

Thanks prof, ! There's a running joke in auto circles, that If tripaccino had done half of this kind of research/writing for the Thar, M&M would have given me a car! Anyway i do it for myself and the viewers and not for the company. I am passionate about this and gives me joy.

Thanks! for the info.

Great

We will try

Far too kind

True. Same has been our reviews conclusion also. Gurkha already runs exclusive showroom. But if you want to have parts availability , then extending coverage to tempo dealers will help the customer

Good points. Will do , I have Shown in the video next to Jimny

@tripaccino Yes cos when I td the current Gurkha, the Tata 407 tempo driver was at my eyebrow level. The endeavor and fortuners roof was...like I am peeking out of the gurkha window to look at their roofs. Most scary is the blind spot just under or outside the front co passenger door. I can't see anything. Any vehicle below fortuner is literally invisible. I was scared for 2 wheelers on the other side. On coming traffic LITERALLY sheets bricks when u come to extreme right to overtake. Its fun but not right, though. Overall, the road presence is MASSIVE to say the least.

So nice of you

Thanks. I hope more people appreciate quality tech rich content like you do.

I would love to do in Tamil also if there are more takers.

@@tripaccino Glad to hear it..😍...The quality rich contents in Tamil are very scarce. I'm sure you will make an immaculate presence in the zone if you start flourishing. Let's hope it reaches more and spreads vast..!😇

You will appreciate the lack of electronic gremlins in your car soon ☺️

@@tripaccino May I ask for your email address please? I couldn’t find your domain name to write to. Thanks

I still have my reservations in recommending this truck to family buyers because of the issues I highlight. For specific roles, it’s well suited

Exactly. That power to weight is ok to pull a large load at moderate speeds. For high speed and quick overtakes , weight will show its effect: the entire engine performance graph was explaining this very point.

thats good. shouldnt be omitted.

Thanks a lot!

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Glad you enjoyed it! I don’t think force brand team has this kind of insights. They would have done much better if they had 😊

THanks brother.

♏️ recommended (decode this !)

110 is my safe threshold. Based on my comfort, driving style and the soft brake setup to stop the 2ton momentum. I don't know what the speed number might be for you. So try it out yourself and dont take my word for it. It could hold 120 easy. But should you?, is the question.

Exactly why I showed low volume high margin. The company is sadly, okay to sell only 1000 units a year and keep the profits to themselves. There is no motivation to sell more (high volume low margin pattern)

Greedy baniya company what do you expect

I appreciate that! Please share the video with others!

Will try

Sure ,! Will do if sufficient interest is there!

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Thanks much. Share it to those who need it

Testing finals now. Few more weeks for the boom 💥

@@tripaccino cool👍👍👍

Wish

Heartfelt. Thank you! -Thar admirer.

Thank you kindly

It will make it: more the merry and definitely will become rounded. but if I was spending the money and effort on all this, won’t a Toyota / Isuzu be a ready made better off the shelf option?

​@@tripaccinoon road cost of Gorkha in Pune is 22 lacs as mentioned earlier all the aftermarket fitments will cost 4 lakh extra total at 26 lakh it still have half the cost of similar class vehicles available on Indian roads

Glad my review echoed your realistic experience. That’s the mark of a genuine review.

You may want to check out my mods video, where I have lengthened the shaft . Noida showroom seems to have some proper test drive? Else Pune helps a lot

Thanks for watching

Thanks

Lift. Kit is temporary band aid . Do not use off road. Only for on road and some ‘looks’ people wish for.

Welcome aboard!

No. The mounting points are different.

First, I myself wish there was more tech rich content like this which are able to dissect the cars for what they are and not just for speed thrills or drag races and tug of wars. I would love to review other cars as well. In fact, as a passion project, I do test drive new car launches and make my notes. Have never been motivated enough to convert them into proper reviews. primarily because, takers for this kind of content are still niche in our country. Next, Thanks for the interesting question. 1. Tripaccino's INeoS Grenadier video should set the background for this question's answer. In my mind, that 'project' by a billionaire captures the essence of the 'beast of purpose'. Im trying to build out a personal version of that customised to my requirements through strictly custom/ retrofit means. Hence what it lacks in factory integrated finishing, it makes up by being focussed on purpose. 2. My personal favourite Gurkha till date (even post 2024 BS6.2) is the Xtreme 2.2 140 SFA version. However, it was rough around the edges, even by Gurkha standards. Though it had a lighter 2.2 l motor OM611 derived and this fine gearbox, it had practical limitations to its extension as an all day truck.It was brutal and dominated off road, but the present G's would run circles around it On Road- in all day driving. It was truly Xtreme and the wild cousin of the G family - a Tarzan. I had considered actually building out on the Xtreme as a platform, but the reliability record of the 611 vs 616 favours the latter. 3. In the 24' stock 6.2, most 'market' 'complaints' have been addressed. Personally, most of them are not of value for me, except the following:- A. Engine and Turbo. B. Underbody architecture. C. Wishbone geometry. C. Wish bone geometry, I have re-worked with much effort, how the wheels are sprung and my present improved suspension setup on all four ends, would trump a stock 6.2 on and off road. but my version came after much iteration and effort and finger burns. B. Underbody architecture.The present layout is much neater and is more ruggedised because of better integration of few components together. Esp gear box transfer case section. This would have been useful for avoiding small cable cuts and irritating niggles while on the move. Small things like diff cable indicator popping off, while on trail, prop shaft bolts shear etc. These have been addressed better in this one. BUT. the simple breather system which we had for the transfer case and the diffs was easily traceable and helped in quick fixes, the present system is different and i prefer my version. The present architecture is almost Thar like, but heavier components. A. Engine and Turbo. This combo, along with the gearbox is perhaps what I really would be jealous of the new G. Its a good combo. Now I am comfortable , but If I ever find the need for more power, it is possible. But the gearbox would be a limiting link in the mechanical chain. I will have to work around and under this limitation. What I am happy that I didn't wait for the Stock 6.2:- A. The electronic dial for 4x4. The simple mechanicals are why I chose this 2021 as platform. I am not able to fully trust the reliablity and response under wear and tough environments of this shifter dial. Not enough One's were sold to get a track record. The stick shift, though gets stuck often with torque windup, was more straight forward for me. Adblue and SCR. The exhaust systems for BS6.2 is not clearly understood and most manufacturers are scuttling around to plonk a motley assortment of DPF and SCR into their car to clear the 6.2 requirements. Adblue behaviour in altitude and difficult environments because of the associated array of sensors is still not clearly understood by me to know the system well. LNT DPF shortcut my 2021 uses is no saint, and has its fair share of problems but I have stripped it out and figured it out. I understand the environment needs this., but one does miss simpler times of the past. Too many electronics creeping in because of BS6.2 standards requirements and market feedback. I am yet to figure out where is the lowest electrical component which would go bust while water wading. I strongly suspect this level is lower than the 2021 version, because of the architecture of the front end and dash. Electronics are gremlins and can hit you out there on the trail, unless it is backed by reliability and experience of the maker. 5 door, though better overall than the 3 door stock, doesn't appeal to me, as I had strictly short wheel base requirement. Hope that answers your interestin question. Share the channel with your crew.

@@tripaccino Thank you for such a detailed reply! I remember in one of your earlier videos, you had mentioned one of the changes you foresaw was the rotary 4x4 selector, and that's a reality now. In fact pretty much every change you predicted, has come to be. There's already talks of an AT (at least, that's what I read in TBHP), as you mention in the 'advice' section of this video. That has me wishing FM doesn't take all your advice seriously and come up with a 4x2 version with 'soft bits,' and dilute the 'essence' of the G. If MS can claim the Jimny isn't about volumes and deny there ever being a 4x2 version, FM should too. If they need volumes, perhaps export? Heard that a company in Europe is working on an EV with the G as the base. There's too many hatchbacks-on-steroids masquerading as 'SUVs' out there to satiate reviewers and buyers who need their soft bits, auto-everything and sunroofs for their drives to the malls and about. Don't think the G belongs with that crowd. What would be the point of a felt-wrapped sledgehammer?! 🙂 (pardon my rant)

Trust me trust me when I say that I I am the principal advocate of the Gurkha staying true to its hard core fundamentals and never Ever offer a 4 x 2 variant and hence diluting its stature, and taking away the air of exclusivity that the few and fearless GURKHA owners enjoy. This was always my personal opinion and fundamental belief and even today if you meet me over a beer, that is the idea I would echo . Through this channel of tripPacino, however, I have a responsibility to analyse the situation, dispassionately and state what is ‘right’, regardless of my personal like and benefits associated with it. Here are some facts the 4x2 Mahindra Thar outsells all other variants put together and is a primary reason for the Thar going consistent 5000+ numbers every month. The 4x2 Fortuner outsells the 4 x 4 and legender put together. Every second car sold in India is a Maruti Suzuki and they can afford to make statements like this as Jimny is just a niche aspirational project they run on sidelines and can hold their breath longer underwater with this. Force motors sells one car . That’s the gurkha. I have been profusely, appreciating them ever since the launch of the first model of the Gurkha for having the conviction to offer a niche product as there only offering in the Pv segment. It is truly a blessing for many many function seekers Like myself and I have written about it and high detail in my team BHP review. My passion is clearly on showcase for the idea of what the Gurka stands for. Look at my analysis of the buyer demographic in this video and see if everyone needs a 4x4 in that pie 🥧. Back to reality. the Gurkha Gurka is selling less than hundred units a month. Do you think it makes financial sense for the 50 odd dealers around the country who have been hosting exclusiveGurkha dealerships that is simply built to sell only this one car - out of their invested capital . Do you think with the present sales numbers all of these details dealers will sustain in the long run if the already spares dealer network shrinks further it reduces the touch points for customers like you and die and we will have to wait for parts availability longer and trained mechanics in quality dealerships will be reduced to far and few in between. If the dealerships dwindle, I also fear how long the company can sustain making of a vehicle, which so few pick up and drive. Therefore, staring at what seems to be an existential crisis for our beloved gurkha. (Just like this channel with few takers ) Exports are already on and the applications are very niche and made to order in most cases … I have accounted for that also in my comprehensive analysis Introduction of a 4 x 2 model makes the entry point more accessible and we will get to see more examples on the road. We can sit on an ivory tower and claim that we are purists but the market dictates makers -and big, scary-Looking 4x2 is clearly what India wants. More vehicles on road. Slightly better volumes will keep the company and the dealerships Happy and ease out The logistic challenges associated in servicing parts and maintenance of just thousand cars in this big country. So when I made the suggestion to go for 4x2 trust me that I have kept a huge boulder on my heart shifted to 4 x 4 Lo climbed over the bolder and then made the suggestion . The 4 x2 just like Thanos , is inevitable. And confusing a 4 x 2 gurkha with a cute Ute and Hatches on stilts will be gross underestimation of what this bad boy with a Final drive ratio of more than 21 can do with a stock set of AT tires😸 hand to my heart , frankly that’s all what most of us need even on trails. If you are going further wild, and require the raw capability of 4x4, then you could always pick up the original G 4x4 which will continue to be on sale. , (thanks only to the 4x2 buyers who would have helped to keep it alive ) ///Forget the hatchbacks - those soft wood mallets, A felt wrapped HANDLE on this forged iron head , means more people (men, women ,young and old) will lift and swing the Sledgehammer. And the true joy of smashing the wall down , is when we all swing together! Yours Aye, Tripaccino

@@tripaccino You know the Gurkha/FM more than I can ever do, and gladly defer to your assessment. Whatever direction this goes in, I hope, the product continues to be owned/driven/tinkered with primarily by a community of gentlemen (offroaders, or otherwise), such as yourself. I'd like to believe, the G has been and become - the product, the aura - much due to this community's efforts. Oh, and to increase the channel's sub count, I hope you'd not start making drag race videos! But, I trust, if you ever did, that would be more akin a scientific thesis, and infinitely more enjoyable than found elsewhere 😀Thank you for all that you do!

The ratio has been explained in the video. Are you asking for FDR in 2H ? It will be more than 21 gurkha because of the new gearbox which we had suggested to plonk into this

First, Thank you so much for the answer Sir 🙏. Yes Sir, I wanted to ask final drive ratio for 2WD which you calculated using Axel ratio in 2021 Gurkha video. Indeed you explained 4L in this video. ❤ I have watched every Video of you, really I did not find anyone on RU-vid knowledgeable like you. I have learnt lot from you and realized real power of Gurkha. Thank you 🙏 🙏🙏🙏 I feel that thank you is very small word for the kind of knowledge you provided ❤❤❤❤

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Wikipedia ? 😝 We are a micro-niche channel with wafer thin visibility.

@@tripaccino Wikipedia level knowledge on the product I meant.

Thar still dominates

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@@pragyanpradhan4480 please see the last part of the video again" and evaluate which sector of customer demographic you fall into. If there is a strong dealership in your town and you can manage parts supply and do some DIY for minor repairs , you can go ahead. Please consider the Scorpio 4x4 as well and see if it fits the bill. The additional initial cost will be recovered in peace of mind over the years.

@@tripaccino there's one in siliguri about 100 kms.. I've experienced a lot of skidding issues with the scorpio classic.. Haven't tried the ScorpioN yet

Swap the tires to AT or MT . It won’t skid.

Visit the Siliguri dealership and have a chat about how much of inventory spares they stock. Ask them if they can be on call to assist you if any problems crop up. He will be your best friend , has to be of you end up choosing the G. For the Scorpio, swap the tires to AT or MT . Skid will be controlled

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1. Would add more weight. Inconvenient to open tail gate directly. Not required unless there is a need for a rear winch mount on the bumper. 2. This setup is fine for most uses. 18" gives more options in the market for swap. I run 16" with taller sidewalls for offroad requirements. 3.No. Mounting is on bolt. Not on rails. Would require heavy fabrication work. I would remove all seats for overlanding rig. If only 2 pax are reqd,

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8-10kmpl realistically

@@tripaccino Sir ji.. please make video on bolero Neo plus 9 seater 2024 new one .

Me too, Takes a lot of time to produce, create and edit as a solo operator, in free time. Appreciate your understanding for the delay.

thanks and share it ahead

Wow, thanks!

spread the joy!

Many many thanks

thanks dhiraj

glad you enjoyed!

Thanks for that!

So nice of you

Glad you enjoyed it

Not now. probably Prad4x4 will build it.

@@tripaccino thank you

Im on a completely new set of all round suspension. Lift kit is band aid.temporary. will do more harm than good.

@@tripaccino how much suspension lift cost

I have done a series of mods

@@tripaccino ok how much expense on only lifting your vehicle

@@natureandadventure1982 suspension also lifts the truck. What do you exactly want to do ? Are you trying to asses financial impact of just lifting the truck?

Thanks a ton

Hmm. Leaf set up would be good for hard labour. But, this is the best option we have among PV segment

Me too, Takes a lot of time to produce, create and edit as a solo operator, in free time. Appreciate your understanding for the delay.

Realistically 8-10kmpl

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Have adviced the same to Force in the video. It will come . It should come. No escaping that eventually

thx prem

Thanks 🙏

@@tripaccinobut is the same dpf filter problem is there in 2024 ghurkha sir???

Not enough vehicles yet have done enough km to know for sure. I put it up as a caution. And to inform tripaccino community that DPF is there in adlblue system also. So we should watch out for the troubles.

True doc!

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Sorry to hear that.

Because it’s so technical. (People want tug of war and reckless driving videos ) maybe you could help by sharing with your friends ! 😺

Sure 👍

Same reason why the Thar resembles the Jeep Wrangler. These are legacy licenses from the parent companies and the design has stayed on . - New design from scratch will cost a lot of R& D cost which cannot be recovered in. Niche sales of gurkha

@@tripaccino Gurkha's width is narrow towards the front, which makes the vehicle looks silly when looking from a distance. Atleast they should have maintained the proportion.

Less than 10. Better buy is Hilux with 15 lakhs discount. Scorpio n with aftermarket diff locks if needed actually. Mg zs ev if having rooftop solar. For free running. Imagine you'll spend 1 lakh + for every 10,000kms you drive the gurkha.