Forced To Crash Into The Center Of Town (Stockport Air Disaster) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN 

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End of an era! It's been a hell of a streak, consistency and quality is hard to achieve but you've done it!

I'm all in for longer videos, the weeklies are fun but honestly my favourites were always uploads that went over 30 minutes

hi, great video! like allways, I have a question, what flight simulator do you use?

Excited for everything you put out, I don't mind waiting a little longer for an interesting and more in-depth video!

The problem is that this GUY is a MALE that’s puts on makeup and dresses..! 🤮🤢

Well, glad you are here on earth.

talk about luck, its a miracle no innocent peace loving townspeople was neutralized in the tragedy.

It's nice you are here, make everyday count.

Well I wouldn't have missed ya..... Just kidding! That's actually a really neat story and now you have a video for historical prosperity to go with it 😎 Life is weird like that. If it weren't for the pilot's skills you actually and honesty might not be here today. Scary cool!

With the butterfly effect in play, you probably don’t even end up being here if the plane never crashed at all.

Well said! Couldn't agree more!!🎯🎯🎯🎯

Simp mode: ACTIVATED

I'm new here today and like this channel over others I've been on

Who is Chloe? It's clearly a guy.

@@KingBritish Chloe is the name of this RU-vidr. Whether Chloe is a guy or a girl is irrelevant. A name is a name.

Lol

The amazing thing is how the damage always looks recent. They must put a lot of effort into maintenance to keep up the effect.

They even come to America and do it6 to some of our towns for us if we're not keeping up. I'd say they deserve a pint for their kindness 😁

@@P_RO_ Now THAT is commitment and solidarity! (lmaooooo)

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(These names were on a memorial commemorating the 50th anniversary of the disaster. I have not been able to find much info on the ages of most of the victims, just the survivors.)

Looks like a lot of married couples and families :(

@@lostvictims9769 the coroner's inquest caused a delay to the registering of all the deaths, and death certificates were all registered and issued in 1968 the year following the accident. 1st Officer: Christopher Lelean Pollard aged 21 of Portillie Mixtow, Fowey, Cornwall Mechanic: Gerald Stanley Lloyd aged 32, of 2 Grange Cottage, Ashby Road, Kegworth, Leicestershire. Steward: Tony Taylor aged 21, of 1 Dove Court, Tonge Derbyshire Dorothy Ackroyd aged 76, of 18 Borden Road , Cheadle Heath, Stockport Janet Ayland aged 27 , and Michael Dean Ayland aged 27, both of 27 Rook Hilll, Worsbrough Dale, Barnsley, Yorkshire Christine Benton aged 15, Herbert Benton aged 51 Phyllis Benton aged 51 , all of 27 Laneside Drive, Bramhall, Cheshire Eliza Booth aged 63 & James William Booth aged 65, of 41 Kent Road, Cheadle Heath, Stockport Catherine Brooks aged 63 of 20 Rostherne Road, Adswood died at Hopes Carr Stockport Annie Cowgill aged 36 and Ronald Cowgill aged 37 both of 151 Smithy Hill, Wibsey, Bradford John Philip Cruse aged 16 , of 21 Swarland Avenue, Newcastle upon Tyne Bernard William Dowd aged 60 and Jane Dowd aged 58 of 17 Marlston Avenue, Lache Park, Chester Sarah Gill aged 59 of 2 Well Royd Avenue, Halifax, Yorkshire Alice Godwin aged 51, of Crown Hotel, Horbury Road, Ossett, Yorkshire John Leslie Harland aged 46 Olive Marie Harland aged 45 both of 21 Woodlands Road, Lepton near Huddersfield Alan Marshall Hughes aged 37 and Kathleen Sylvia Hughes aged 33 of 11 Everest Drive, Blackpool Elsie James aged 51, of 69 Hough Lane, Wombwell, Barnsley Arthur Frederick Kemp aged 59, Elsie Kemp aged 58 both of 36 Enville Road, Salford Margaret Latham aged 28 and Roy Latham aged 28 , both of 511 Nether Crescent, Grenoside, Sheffield Mabel Mellor aged 63 of 48 Roils Head Road, Halifax Julie Russell Nolan aged 9, Lillian (Lily) Nolan aged 33 both of 3 Orme Avenue, Alkrington, Lancashire Eva Owen aged 55 of 27 Adaston Avenue, Eastham, Cheshire Arthur Reynolds aged 54 and Ethel May Reynolds aged 50, of 34 Cardigan Road, Leeds Edward S Shaw aged 34, Gloria Anne Shaw aged 28, and their twins Jeremy Reynolds Shaw and Maxine Rose Shaw aged 4 , of 14 Plantation Gardens, Leeds Jillian Avril Smart aged 34 and Norman Geoffrey Smart aged 39, of Tirion Cottage, Lower Foel Rd, Dyserth Flintshire Alexander Smith aged 21, Glenise Smith aged 23 of 24 Woden Street, Salford Arthur Henry Smith aged 54 ,and his wife Rachael M M Smith aged 52 , and son David Arthur Smith aged 14 of 4 Ing Head, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield Harry Stansfield agedf 43, Joan Dearden Stansfield and 39 and John Dearden Stansfield aged 10 all of `17 Omer Drive , Burnage, Manchester Anne Fildes Stott aged 31 and Brian James Stott aged 33, of 130 Stockport Road, Cheadle, Stockport Alan Stuart Taylor aged 27, Jean Taylor aged 26, of 18 Cumberland Avenue, Fixby Huddersfield Jean Thorne aged 44 , Peter Radcliffe Thorne aged 12 of Greenways, Wistow, near Selby, Yorkshire Philip Radcliffe Thorne aged 45 of Cawood Road, Wistow, near Selby Ann Tomlinson aged 12, Michael Tomlinson aged 16, Phyllis Elsie Tomlinson aged 41 and Raymond Frank Tomlinson aged 42, all of 30 High Street, Clowne, Derbyshire Jean Walsh aged 39, Leah Jeanette Walsh aged 5, Thomas Walsh aged 42 and William Ralph Walsh aged 7, all of 27 Midgehall Drive, Bamford, Rochdale Paul Frederick Williams aged 9, Gertrude Evelyn Williams aged 45, of 34 Beaufort Road, Great Moor, Stockport Joseph Ivan Wilshaw aged 40, and Marjorie Wilshaw aged 41, of Bates Farm, Risley, Warrington Joan Wood aged 47, of 6 Acorn Street, Hanson Lane, Halifax William Henry Wood aged 44, of The Glory Hotel, Loveclough, Rossendale Lancashire Reuben Woolfson aged 39, Sonia Woolfson aged 36, and Wendy Woolfson aged 9, all of 35 Sheepfoot Lane, Prestwich, Lancashire

@@hastingleighdotcom7481 I noticed Anne, aged 31 and Brian aged 33 with their family name Stott. Their death seems particularly wrapped in a cruel irony as they died litterally within sight of the safety of their home at 130 Stockport Road. I really hope that they did not have time to actually discover and recognize their home and ponder the cruel irony of it. That would just be too cruel.

You live in the Manchester area?

​@@DisasterBreakdown ...could be a rather tasteless joke too

​@@DisasterBreakdownyes.

​@@alastormedialit isnt. I live in the area

Exactly. Those two mentions pricked up my ears! I was surprised he did not refer to the (probably Packard) Merlins.

@@johnjephcote7636she

The pilot of the Ambassador in the Munich (footballer's) attempted take-off crash was blamed for icing and runway slush and never flew again.

How is it surprising? They were correct in not placing any of the blame on the Captain. It wasn’t his fault.The official report stated that it was a failure of communication on part of the manufacturer that was the major contributor to this crash since BOAC discovered the issue in 1953 and told Canadair about it but Canadair failed to tell anyone else about it or make any changes to their flight manuals.

It was just not enough of the pilots fault. They did the checklists, they had the levers they had. And it was 1967 & the pilots were ex-RAF. Without younger pilots coming through easily. Besides, this was when you bought life insurance at the airport. And… it’s Manchester 😏.

Ooh, air transat who used crossfeed inappropriately (although checklists were problematic). Similar, except modern planes fly better on less engines. Similar, probably more the pilots fault, don’t know if they flew again.

"It’s surprising that the Captain wasn’t blamed. " True, and this disaster is a good example of first- and second stories: The first story is "what happened and who is directly involved". The captain made a mistake and the plane crashed. A fool would put the pilot in jail. The second story is about why the mistake happened. The pilot did not want to crash the plane, the plane was in perfect working order, so what caused the pilot to do this? IN the second story we learn that the pilot thought he was doing the right thing but the plane did not show that things were wrong. The design of the cockpit was illogical, it's not normal that a gauge that is extremely important to the safety of the plane is not clearly visible from the seat of both pilots. it is also assenine that there is no low-fuel alarm and no automatic crossfeed in case of such an alarm. Keeping the engines running should be a priority in the design but apparently in this design the low-fuel gauge was seperate from the crossfeed so the plane thought it had fuel.. just not in the tank that was being used. Does that mean we should lock up the designers? Again: no, because the threat of going to jail does not make *anybody* magically not ever make a mistake again. threat of punishment only prevents deliberate acts, it does nothing to prevent mistakes.

Actually the fuel flow doesn't stay the same at all. It is the one thing that indicates whether the engine is developing power. No power produced shows as no fuel flow. The official enquiry didn't really exonerate the crew, but equally didn't hold them to account for some quite serious errors. The most critical being the non feathering of one of the dead engines. Put quite simply - none of the 4 engine piston airliners would stay airborne with a single engine unfeathered. The problem was that the Captain was totally occupied in wrestling with the controls, which left him with no capacity to control the other aspects of flight, what would be called CRM today. It would be proven later that type of aircraft lost rudder authority in those circumstances as the speed dipped below 105 knots. It was found that with both Starboard engines out and correctly feathered they would've reached Ringway quite safely in 6 and a half minutes.

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Thank you!

@Flyingturdbucket - I understand what you mean about your local disaster not being widely recognised or remembered by many people, which I am sure you feel is very disappointing, as it's part of your history. Even though at the time of this accident I had no connection with Stockport (10 years later I worked for a short time in Wilmslow), somehow this event has always remained in my mind. In 1967 I was 18 years old and had lived for a year in a YMCA in north London. Only 8 months earlier had been the tragic Aberfan coal tip disaster in Wales which killed over 100 children and adults in and around a junior school. So these two disasters in many ways defined the first year of my new life in London, having been brought up in Scotland. Nowadays I have long since retired and living in Spain. Times have changed, but I still think back to those particular sad memories of the mid-sixties.