Ford Explorer ST vs Dodge Durango SRT Drag Race - Can a $600 Tune Beat America's Fastest 3-Row SUV?

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The Dodge Durango SRT and Ford Explorer ST are two high performance 3-row SUV's with two very different approaches toward speed. The Durango SRT has a naturally aspirated 6.4 liter with 475 horsepower while the Explorer ST has a twin turbo 3.0 liter V6 and a ten speed automatic. While both of these models are aimed at performance and family hauling capability, which is actually the quickest in a drag race? In this video we are going to find out!
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@joesainato8051 4 года назад

5 star is incredibly reliable. And I don’t have any benefit for saying that. Just like livernois. They have these EB tunes down. I had 120000 on my last EB tuned and not a mechanical issue

@Pilot545 4 года назад

Agreed! I've been running their E50 tune on my 2018 F-150 for over a year now. I have about 12,000 miles now and no issue...and TONS of smiles!! :)

@jimshorts6751 4 года назад

5 Star tuned 2018 F150 shortbed XL 3.5 track hound. Low 11's and on its 20th pass, scattered the crank after ingesting the turbos. Not 5 🌟's fault, Ford fault for a bad turbo bearing and me beating the snoteroonies out of it. 13,500 miles. Cost me $ 12,000 to repair as it took out the radiator and all the AC components as well. My neighbors 1975 D150 with a Supercharged Junkyard 5.7 has a seasons full of loudpeddle debauchery and still spec's out within 3% of factory. Mind you, we picked up the motor for $2500 with trans and $5k for the Supercharger. Gotta pay to play !

@Sak-zo1ui 4 года назад

When running boost on an engine it is bound to break. Upgrading hardware will give you longevity and better performance. This is a cheap way out of upgrading your vehicle. The 6.4 in the durango if rebuilt on the bottom end will give endless miles. Also what about the drive lines with the tunes?!?! If you drive it like it should be driven it will wear down. This tune just decreases that time.

@BreckoniousMaximus 4 года назад

5 star is a great company, but I'd give More Power Tunes the edge. MPT shift points are on point!

@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering 4 года назад

That is a killer tuned ST! However, the SRT wasn't far behind it, AND the SRT still retains its factory warranty. I'd be willing to bet that tune on the ST completely obliterated the factory drivetrain warranty.

@DmanLucky_98 4 года назад

Ford Engineers: Turbo everything... Dodge Engineers: V8 everything... Chevy Engineers: We don't know what we're doin... Gmc Engineers: We got trucks...?

@ecoboostrules9795 4 года назад

Lmfao. Good one. 👌👍✋

@nickaguirre8804 4 года назад

Very underrated comment! 🤣🤣

@ecoboostrules9795 4 года назад

@@nickaguirre8804 what do you mean, its spot on.

@nickaguirre8804 4 года назад

ecoboost rules underrated by only having 9 likes Incase you didn’t understand.

@ecoboostrules9795 4 года назад

@@nickaguirre8804 ok. Wasnt real sure which way you were going with that. Lol

@Droopy578 4 года назад

Turbos make a V6 fast. But a naturally aspirated V8, is always a beautiful sound, PERIOD !!

@dancarthen3634 4 года назад

That fuel economy of the v6 tho!

@Droopy578 4 года назад

Daniel Carthen true. But add a couple more gears to the transmission and that V8 will get even high mpgs on the highway and it will balance out to a good number when you average it out with the city mpg.

@stevenB92096 4 года назад

DavGo the 8 speed FCA uses is beautiful. I can get 30 mpg with my Challenger R/T at 70-75 mph

@everettclunie3525 4 года назад

StevenB96 30 mpg? That’s impressive. The best I can get my 5.0 f150 on the highway is 23. And that’s with the 10 speed

@stevenB92096 4 года назад

Everett Clunie at what speed? The 30 mpg is with my 5.7 kicking down to 4 cylinders. If I keep it in 8 at the speeds I mentioned I can still get 25-27 or so. I normally drive at like 80 (live in FL) and get about 22-24 overall

@anthonykindle9377 4 года назад

7:20 to skip all the bs.

@JamarD421 4 года назад

Thank you

@aggressor5448 4 года назад

So, the stock Durango SRT is better and faster than the stock Explorer ST. Thanks. 👌

@goeffdouge8456 4 года назад

Fabio Jara but with 600 dollars you get a way better advantage

@mirokhon4901 4 года назад

Thank you

@cenoholmes7215 4 года назад

Anthony Kindle thank you

@chickenwithasombrero7641 4 года назад

When karen and Susan start beefing in the streets:

@toweringhorse2054 4 года назад

Criminally underrated comment

@teaganna5970 4 года назад

Who can get to the PTA meeting first?

@RadDadisRad 4 года назад

When Ken and Chad start beefing

@capolean2902 3 года назад

martha sits back with her jeep srt lol

@hooniken6940 3 года назад

🤣

@sillycarnerd665 4 года назад

In 30 years when these are clapped out, I'll finally be able to afford one.

@northdakotaham1752 4 года назад

The doors and fenders will be rusted off in five years, guaranteed. After well over 100 years of building car bodies, they still cant build one that doesnt rust through in short order. The firmware and electronics will be obsolete in three years just like a laptop computer from Walmart. All the fancy little blinky, video game lights wont get you from point A to point B. Neither Ford nor Fiat will have parts to fix them after seven years and even if they did, the cost of labor will exceed the value of the vehicle. All these guys are building is high tech, extremely expensive car crusher fodder.

@solofalcon 4 года назад

@@northdakotaham1752 My 2014 Dart GT has no rust

@northdakotaham1752 4 года назад

@@solofalcon depends upon where you live. I live in the rust belt. Five years, you have plenty of rust.

@ZACH_95_ 4 года назад

North Dakota Ham I have a 2005 f150 with very little rust on it. So you’re wrong. 👏🏻👏🏻😂

@northdakotaham1752 4 года назад

@@ZACH_95_ very little rust.... but rust just the same. You proved my point.

@jbrap7198 4 года назад

How much horsepower should our new family suv have Dodge: yes

@tontonmc8836 4 года назад

Jbrap How often you have to pay for gas? Maserati- Huh?

@franciscorodriguez6967 4 года назад

Lmaoooooooooooo

@lovescamaros1 4 года назад

@@tontonmc8836 gas and mpg are irrelevant these days! we don't buy big v8's for mpg!

@tshombeford4314 4 года назад

😂😂😂

@charlespetersonii6989 4 года назад

SRT=Smiles per gallon 😁

@spencerson7516 Год назад

The ability to throw a literal light whale to 60 in 5 seconds or less is unnervingly incredible. Can't wait for the crazy police chases in a few years

@adamf1944 Год назад

😂 Yeah it'll mostly be Dodge since the hood loves then

@AB-jp6xe 4 года назад

I have a 2013 Ford Explorer with over 460,000 miles on it. I purchased it as a family hauler with about 60,000 miles on it. I unintentionally had to use it as a courier vehicle for 97% of those miles. I haven't changed any major parts or had any major parts failures!?!?! I must have one of the best built fords on the planet!

@dougifresh4422 4 года назад

Jeep Trackhawk: "am I a joke to you?"

@edge20081990 4 года назад

DOUGI FRESH fastest 3-row...

@jackthompson852 4 года назад

Trackhawk is 2 row

@DP-nk4vu 4 года назад

😂😂😂😂

@lclnbm 4 года назад

Gas mileage: yes you are. 😆 Btw dont crucify me. I love the Trackhawk as much as the next Dodge fan.

@ramirosanchez2103 4 года назад

Jake Jones ok then the Tesla model X will destroy all three... but don’t get me wrong I love the Durango Srt

@paladin11C40 4 года назад

I would love to see the SRT Durango against the top of the line Aviator, which has 494hp and 630tq. Great video

@sylviofleurant2507 4 года назад

Me too

@rdyoungdds 4 года назад

Warlock 06 early testing of it shows it isn’t any faster than an Explorer ST. Although it has more power, it is about 1000 lbs heavier due to the battery

@jmcrjc6799 4 года назад

@@sylviofleurant2507 e

@paladin11C40 4 года назад

@@rdyoungdds Thats too bad, I was hoping.

@rc7435 4 года назад

Different vehicles, put it against the trackhawk

@nathankestin1922 4 года назад

The content from TFL continues to get better and better keep it up guys!!

@rigged4detonation142 4 года назад

Dodge: hold my beer.......7-2-2020 announces hellcat Dodge Durango.

@burtonh1 4 года назад

Dodge= "Hold my beer" LOL

@jshapiro34 4 года назад

A Mopar owner that's after speed.....hold my beer (Jay Greene - hemi fever tuning) bye bye Ford and Chevy

@matthewwideman2824 4 года назад

Well hello here I am with Tesla

@jimmya9064 4 года назад

Gt500 Shelby Ford Explorer announced

@bryang8311 4 года назад

Matthew Wideman electric cars are for females

@porscheguy09 4 года назад

Just imagine how much power you would gain if you upgraded the intercoolers, air intake, down pipes and exhaust along with the tune. Their claimed 100 horsepower gain at the wheels equals about 525-550 horsepower at the crank if not more. Just with a tune.

@sufficetosay Год назад

Tranny would probably blow up lol.

@KClife9 Год назад

Lol. Good by Engine and trans

@limbeboy7 Год назад

this video just proved that horsepower is not the answer to everything. cutting weight and things like AWD play a big roll in acceleration than people pay attention to

@benbradley3872 Год назад

@KClife9 the 3.0l TT from ford has a 10r60 that is good up to 650~ hp and has forged internals. Engine and Trans are fine. And with FBO and tuned on e50 will beat trackhawks. Before calling bs go ahead and look up the videos these STs are monsters after giving them some love. And you're still cheaper than a trackhawk or hellcat durango.

@KClife9 Год назад

@@benbradley3872 these cars are junk. Do your research and you'll see they are heavy on transmission issues

@marcjohnson6515 4 года назад

Sooo 4.8 sec on a TUNED st or 5.01 on hemi... I'd pick v8 all day

@TFLcar 4 года назад

After more practice, Andre got the tunes Explorer to 4.5 sec 0-60 mph.

@ervinzefi8662 4 года назад

The Fast Lane Car Still not a big gap considering that the Durango is factory .

@saudabrahams 4 года назад

@@ervinzefi8662 you wont get as much in terms of a performance upgrade when tuning the Hemi

@ervinzefi8662 4 года назад

Saud Abrahams just a torque converter will give about a half a second in 0-60 . This video is obvious that is a commercial for the tuning company . Not taking anything from the ST or the company that tuned , but with forced induced engines a tune is all you need for HP increase . Let’s not forget that the Durango is e few years old and ST is a freshly produced SUV .

@ervinzefi8662 4 года назад

Cletus Zimmerman The chassis on the Explorer is brand new. 10 speed tranny brand new. Third gen ecoboost has 80% new internals so .. yeah is brand new. On the other hand everything on the Durango is from 2014.

@itsmyshoe7391 4 года назад

Man...The way the Explorer ST launches is so satisfying, I love the way the front lifts up when it launches. Reminds me of a Range Rover Sport SVR.

@zacharyjones7948 4 года назад

Imagine pulling up on a Civic at a light in your Ford explorer towing a wholeass boat and then walking it 💀💀💀💀

@blooddrunk1432 3 года назад

bruh civic are 150hp lol

@zacharyjones7948 3 года назад

@@blooddrunk1432 The joke was aimed at Civic drivers lol... I realize that they don't come with insane horsepower stock, but civic drivers swear by them and it's always fun seeing them getting humbled 😂

@trenton.tchannel1810 3 года назад

They’ll both sound terrible lol 😂

@n0tlance314 2 года назад

You can probably walk faster than a civic lol

@doylee469 2 года назад

That thought is what is making people buy these turds.. biggg deallll

@jojmon9153 4 года назад

Now get the Durango tuned by Greene Racing and test them again.

@brodybetts5143 4 года назад

Joj Mon won’t make much difference for a n/a motor you won’t get the gains the st got

@jojmon9153 4 года назад

Brody Betts 40-50hp is nothing to be sleeping on.

@Rexcation 4 года назад

@@brodybetts5143 My 2015 Chrysler 200S 3.6L picked up 40ish horse from a tune. Mopars are super conservatively tuned from the factory

@rsdna9698 4 года назад

@@jojmon9153 No way you could get 40-50hp from that NA motor with only software changes. Maybe 10-15...

@jojmon9153 4 года назад

RSD N/A totally possible. Mopar are so untuned is not even funny. My 5.7 ram truck gained around 40hp from just a custom engine tune and transmission tune.

@herefishyfishy6907 4 года назад

First thing I'd do with the ST, get rid of those craptastic mufflers.

@trancross7040 4 года назад

Most def👊🏽

@slomango7927 4 года назад

HereFishyFishy that’s right unleash the weed eater

@bmanclassics4350 4 года назад

Id just trade it for the Durango...

@charleshenson4183 4 года назад

Why,you aren't going to make it sound any better. I've had 2 ecoboost & the factory exhaust note is something you'll have to learn to deal with

@herefishyfishy6907 4 года назад

@@charleshenson4183 there is options.

@gecko56 4 года назад

0:12 god damn that explorer lifting up!

@Macsleuth 4 года назад

Love both of them. Nice to know there are tunes out there that can wake up the Ford. Would love to see a tuned SRT as well.

@DWH300 Год назад

Turning the Durango will cost a lot more than $600. You can tune the Durango and you'll likely still get smoked by the tuned ST. My new Chrysler 300C 5.7 cost $3000 for a tune to get a dyno tested 50 horsepower. Frankly a waist of money. The Explorer ST is s fantastic SUV in stock form. For the extremely low amount of $600. You can gap the Hemi Durango. The Explorer is an easy choice.

@buzzsantana6637 Год назад

@@DWH300bro you paid 3k for a 5.7 hemi tune ? No offense but you were robbed hard ...

@name5293 Год назад

@@DWH300 you're talking out of your ass. This is literally stock vs tuned. You fail to realize that the ST needed to be tuned to keep up. I mean, common sense doesn't ring a bell?

@beto_lsx497 Год назад

@@DWH300lmao just because u got ripped off .... any dyno session cost around 600 not 3000

@GMbowtie350 Год назад

@@DWH300No offense but a 5.7 anything is a waste of money.

@davidn5861 4 года назад

I never clicked so fast.

@AK_Jesus 4 года назад

This channel is better than what motor trend used to be. Keep it up guys.

@AgersHVAC 4 года назад

@ $13,000 less, I’d spend the $600 on the ST and take the fuel economy too!

@Starky513 4 года назад

And the reliability

@nothrottlelimit 4 года назад

@@Starky513 I work at Ford..... The Ecoboost is far from reliable....

@kaymharla7504 4 года назад

@@Starky513 “the reliability” hahahahahaha

@Starky513 3 года назад

@@nothrottlelimit funny because mine has 320,000KM and is still towing my boat like it's not there...

@Starky513 3 года назад

@@kaymharla7504 mine has 320,000KM and still tows my boat without fail.

@tjmower321 4 года назад

Great now cops are going to get their explorers tuned

@NewDeereMan 4 года назад

Some do have different tunes.

@igiveuponhumanity9238 4 года назад

Deere Gear of Northeast GA Incorrect. There's not an agency in the USA that "tunes" their patrol vehicles in 2019. Warranty and longevity of all engine-related components (drivetrain, differentials, & axles included) are the main goals of every agency when it comes to money spent on patrol units. Any custom tuning would also present a blatant liability issue for any occurence that could be even remotely attributed to any vehicle performance modifications beyond the mods of retrofitted emergency equipment (and there are already very specific guidelines & requirements for aftermarket equipment installations).

@NewDeereMan 4 года назад

@@igiveuponhumanity9238 agree to disagree. This is ford tuning not Joe blow tuning vs Ford's. There was even article from Ford stating this.

@igiveuponhumanity9238 4 года назад

Deere Gear of Northeast GA The context of Tj Mower's comment, which I realize is a joke, was that police will have their patrol Explorers "tuned." My point is that aftermarket tuning will not occur on police vehicles. If you're referring to the differences in civilian versions of a vehicle versus the police-specific / Special Service Package variations and calibrations, then I concur... but that's been hapening since the early '80s that I know of without researching it, and likely beforehand as well. Take care

@NewDeereMan 4 года назад

@@igiveuponhumanity9238 we are on the same page then👌

@sts3427 4 года назад

13K price difference is more than just a small edge. Add $700 for the tune and tuner and the Fords a no brainer.

@JamisonMK3 4 года назад

Not that cut and dry for me. I’m not really in the mood to add e85 to my fuel every time I fill up while losing stock reliability.

@skywalker2852 4 года назад

Maybe I'm overly cautious, but 168lb-ft is a lot of torque to add with no change in hardware. I'm guessing the bill will soon be over $700 when something breaks and the warranty is void (I'm assuming this tune voids the warranty, right?)

@davidscott4849 4 года назад

Sky Walker It absolutely does. A powertrain failure in this vehicle will cost you 12k out of pocket if the EEPROM has been reflashed. Mode 9 vehicle information stored in the PCM easily and quickly gives the telltale. Leave it stock. These vehicles are having serious issues out of the gate. Google 2020 explorer Chicago assembly plant. There is multiple articles on it. They are having to ship tens of thousands of these things from South Chicago to Flat Rock Michigan to be reworked due to false builds. And paying crews around the clock to fix the plethora of issues due to the misbuilds..

@prime77089 4 года назад

Every time I see a boat like that I think “Dexter”.

@smokeu600 4 года назад

Hahaha I was thinking the same.

@jeremybowden4363 4 года назад

Slice of Life

@icu6585 4 года назад

Oh man gawdamn

@kevinkern3848 4 года назад

That's what I'm watching now, and this video.

@jiml4987 4 года назад

Stop ruining my childhood. I grew up on a similar boat in Lake Erie. After watching the series, I feel the same and want to drive into a hurricane...

@JasonParham83 4 года назад

I have to admit, I'm super impressed that not only did the ford win but all of that extra HP was gained for $600. A new king has arrived.

@jacobchaney 2 года назад

Hellcat Durango came out the following year after this video. RIP Explorer😅

@plugmenace8513 Год назад

@@jacobchaney it’s still rip Durango

@OnlyOriginalNinja Год назад

@@jacobchaneyConsidering it’s nearly double the price, they’re nowhere near comparable lmao

@TheSweetswed Год назад

Its not like you can't add a turbo n tune the srt or srt jeep

@arizonacolour8793 2 месяца назад

And I don't think I saw a cold air intake, so that would have to come in too

@Mr.Ramirez95 4 года назад

Editing my comment so no one knows why I got so many likes. 🤭

@danielboatright6977 4 года назад

Gotta love the federal reserve

@brentlawler792 4 года назад

"That's what I like about these car prices, they go up and my wages stay the same" Matthew McConaughey

@tmfeldman3990 4 года назад

I keep telling people to stop waiting for prices to drop. Seriously, everyone is always amazed that prices just go up, like it's just a phase.

@DarkSplash99 4 года назад

Chevy needs to being back the Trailblazer SS.......

@MindzEnt 4 года назад

It’s called capitalism.

@EDHBlvd 4 года назад

This was exactly the video I was looking for. You guys rock.

@mr.boostang2064 4 года назад

Very fast Explorer, might not live long with that much heat being generated tho. A larger intercooler, 160°F thermostat and a large transmission cooler will greatly help this tuned Explorer live a long and happy life

@dannyjr7997 2 года назад

Also Oil Catch Cans are very needed for engines life. Totally agree on trans cooler.

@hajjdawood Год назад

@@dannyjr7997no need, this ecoboost switches between port and direct injection to clean itself out

@gregdcross Год назад

The Durango SRT also has issues with high engine oil temps, so any time you ask an engine to produce a lot of power in a limited space, you will have temp problems.

@2KCamaroZ28SS 4 года назад

5 Star Tuning is truly a remarkable company. Fantastic tunes. And great customer service.

@wthutch7882 4 года назад

I would still get a Durango all day If for no other reason than the Durango is a badass without any tuning

@FlyingFalcon77 4 года назад

One of the least reliable SUVs money can buy, though. Not just the SRT, but the Durango in general

@Welcometofacsistube 4 года назад

Dakota bullshit

@dtay8913 4 года назад

@@Welcometofacsistube I agree Alex on autos has owned one with 0 issues not to mention someone in my family owns one and it's been fine so far.

@frooz442 4 года назад

@@FlyingFalcon77 I've seen a bunch of both old AND newer Durangos run perfectly fine, so I don't know what you're saying. Durangos tend to be one of FCA's more well built products. I can't say the same about some newer Explorers, they are powerful and good looking but I'd still be leery about the EB's. Older ones ran pretty good though

@lbnewell23 4 года назад

Fruitably same applies with all range rovers I’ve been in and known of within people I know and that’s a lot of range rovers i live in England and every person with even a bit of extra cash has a Range Rover and guess what no issues but what do all you Americans think of them ??

@z71ben43 4 года назад

Missed a opportunity to take that boat on the dragstrip and compare times

@lytning3 4 года назад

this is the most underrated comment on the video

@yipeeiaye 4 года назад

Cool - but you gotta make it fair guys. Tune the Hemi and say goodbye to the Ford.

@Fin.mint. Год назад

Won't matter, both the transmissions in these things are garbage. Andre made a mistake as well, as the Explorer had an 8 speed. Which breaks. All the time.

@scbird1 4 года назад

Well I got a 3.8 0-60 in my old Ecoboost 2012 MKS Lincoln with just a tune, plugs, 3bar map and intake + 93 octane and its full weight and heavy. About 4800 LBS Looks like the Sho`s will show you who`s boss! Got to love Livernois. They may not be the best tune for all out power but the car has over 100k now with no break downs.

@Mixwell1983 4 года назад

I wouldnt mind having the stock st explorer in a charcoal grey with black rims. They look soo clean, however the exhaust note from the Durango is beast.

@A.ChristopherJohnson 4 года назад

Word Mopar All Day !!

@YusufGinnah 4 года назад

Yeah, no replacement for displacement... Especially true with that growl.. Now they need to '5 star' the Dodge..

@tylercouture216 4 года назад

Until you see a police interceptor with the exact same spec which you will pretty soon

@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 4 года назад

that Durango is a Big Time Gas Sucker

@Mixwell1983 4 года назад

Look perhaps I am comparing apples to orange but I dont get the whole no replacement foe displacment. Its always said with gas turbos yet nobody bats an eye on a turbo diesel.. What im asking/saying is turbo diesels are known to be reliable so why does everyone thing gas turbos are gona break ? Maybe diesels are more stout or what? This is a genuine question, what's the difference. I know diesels drive trains are stout for the torque but seems like everyones rebuttle is "its gona cost a fortune when tje turbo breaks" but yet turbo diesels are just fine.

@danmagill7616 4 года назад

Would love to see a coyote 5L dropped into the explorer. It’s been a while since there was a V8 option in it. We all know now how many ponies Ford could get out of that engine if they wanted to. No need for a tune...an Explorer “GT”?? Oh and that glorious exhaust note...

@givemesometime8405 Год назад

Ford play things safe

@lbnewell23 4 года назад

Omg the tuned explorer needs some tuned suspension coz it basically does a wheelie 😆

@xjmg007 4 года назад

Wieght transfer is your friend at the strip.

@Treyk901 4 года назад

My tuned F-150 does this too and the front wheels will slip.

@xjmg007 4 года назад

@@Treyk901 for sure rebound matters more if you're power is front Biased. Especially on Fwd, but most awd systems are rear Biased in the power split so the rear wieght transfer is important.

@justinluttrell1769 4 года назад

Softer suspension in back is preferable for launches. In fact the new mustang with magnaride softens the rear suspension intentionally for launches.

@Treyk901 4 года назад

John G mine is a true 4x4 - 50/50 split front to back with a locked rear diff. 5 Star’s tune on the 3.5 Ecoboost makes so serous power, enough to make all the tires slip at launch. I have very good tires too.

@GingerO762 4 года назад

I think everyone is forgetting that the explorer with a tune is still much cheaper than the competitor

@Balkanmotorsports 4 года назад

You’re forgetting the explorer st gets you to 65k. That’s about the same price of a base srt durango guy.

@peytonlove2598 4 года назад

that’s simply not true.. this ain’t ya grandmas explorer lmao

@GingerO762 4 года назад

Peyton Love bought one for my wife for $48k new

@GingerO762 4 года назад

Night Kruzer bought one for my wife $48k new. Msrp doesn’t mean anything

@danielvisintainer3352 4 года назад

@@Balkanmotorsports so what you’re saying is that a fully loaded ST with this tune is still cheaper than a base Durango?

@bartismoellis1052 4 года назад

Hay wifey when you put gas in your new car would you mind mixing in some e85 ya right.

@danielbeltran3343 4 года назад

They should of tuned it on supream fuel only.

@bryanhersman4037 4 года назад

@@danielbeltran3343 But it would have lost, It already was really close, they needed every scrap of power they could find and then were just praying the driveshaft held up.

@derekortiz3663 4 года назад

"Sure thing, green's the same as yellow right? Cause that's what I used!"

@BLACK05GO1 4 года назад

@@danielbeltran3343 Yes, the E85 Tune was a bad idea. The average person will just want a tune and not have to deal with E85.

@03mm24 4 года назад

@@derekortiz3663 😬

@fab12xd 4 года назад

They need to start putting coyotes on those explorers

@klasseact6663 4 года назад

Why???

@fab12xd 4 года назад

@@klasseact6663 why not? Lmao

@klasseact6663 4 года назад

@@fab12xd it's an SUV, who cares.

@TheSlow281 4 года назад

They did before. I don't see why not now

@klasseact6663 4 года назад

@@TheSlow281 they did what before, V8's, weak ones! The Take rate is much higher on the Eco boost engines in the pick up trucks so why would they change?

@willboyd7794 4 года назад

This was a great comparison But do apple to apple Have tuned Dodge and tuned Ford see what happens Tuned vehicles to the drag races !!

@Dyesnipa 4 года назад

you wouldnt get as much from just a tune in a n/a but I still like the durango more

@jeffos69 4 года назад

William Barbour you get way more power out of tuning turbo vehicles

@willboyd7794 4 года назад

@@jeffos69 Hahaha You don't know what are talking about Hahaha

@jeffos69 4 года назад

William Barbour are you sure? Ok you know best.

@ecoboostrules9795 4 года назад

That's not apples to apples dumbass. The EcoBoost only had 400 hp. The durango has 475. So hows it apples that way. God people like you have your head so far up your ass it's not funny. It's a 3.0 vs a 6.4. What the hell more do you need.

@jerryrobinson5163 4 года назад

It appears that Henry Ford left more than just his legacy behind him. He left behind a very great innovative company. So all you Ford haters out there just suck It up.

@midwest9040 4 года назад

Really fun comparison! I am kind of surprised though that you don't do an actual 1/4 mile as opposed to 1/8 mile which would be more of a historical and industry standard.

@Two99Point80 4 года назад

True, but the 1/8 still covers the range of speeds that would be used on the street. These are daily drivers, not track cars.

@ryans1187 4 года назад

That hemi v8 sounds great. Got that in my challenger

@jwehler1019 4 года назад

Reaction time vs the blue one was .23 for the durango. And anyone else notice when they raced the with one vs the durango on the time sleep they jumped the light and it showed foul.... Just saying

@rygi23 3 года назад

Reaction time has no impact on elapsed time.

@iandavis8755 4 года назад

One thing most people don't know about the Ecoboost engines, is that they WILL NOT make max power via boost, until a break-in mileage threshold is surpassed. I know this is the case with the Focus ST...the computer will not allow you to put the spurs to the engine until the pre-determined break in has happened. Perhaps results in comparisons of Ecoboost vehicles would turn out differently if people tested ones with over 1500 miles on them, that aren't being governed anymore.

@briank7457 4 года назад

The stock ST puts up respectable numbers given it's sporting the narrower stock 20 inch tires (255s) vs the wider tires on the stock SRT (295s) & tuned ST (275s). Really show the difference between the weight on the 2 models, nearly 800 lbs on published curb weight between the SRT and ST

@IncognitoBoi545 4 года назад

It seems like Ford is doing everything in their power to not use a V8.

@rj6110 4 года назад

ikr? why does chevys 60k mid engined corvette supercar come with a v8 and the half-million dollar GT come with a v6

@300kMiles 4 года назад

For commercial cars it makes sense, as a v6 with a turbocharger can produce comparable horsepower to a standard v8 and get better gas mileage. As for sports cars idk.

@4468861989 4 года назад

Epa

@anthonymolina7416 4 года назад

what it’s faster than the vette even with a v6

@peterfokinpan8063 4 года назад

maybe cause they are smart..... idk

@pechmichaelchristina2640 4 года назад

I’d still take Durango in a heart beat. Crazy number on the ford tho

@jordangraf673 4 года назад

Yeah with a tune and special fuel

@Twittavelli 4 года назад

Thats ford is trash, and imagine that Tune on the Durango

@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 4 года назад

@@Twittavelli - what do you mean?

@Twittavelli 4 года назад

@@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 I hate how they messed up the explorer. used to love the look of it, now its tacky.

@justinconn9343 4 года назад

The fiat Chrysler barge is trash! I’d take either ford in a minute! 5900 pounds! Wtf! It needs 500 hp to get out of its own way!

@offroad5798 4 года назад

Cool. Now test a tuned SRT Durango vs a tuned Explorer ST 😏

@ZACH_95_ 4 года назад

Than you could just tune the explorer even more. Keep on going bud.. 😂👏🏻

@scat3926 4 года назад

@@ZACH_95_ so we always got to give the explorer the advantage

@angeljennings3317 4 года назад

@@scat3926 explorers are better hahaha

@scat3926 4 года назад

@@angeljennings3317 actually no they aren't the explorer is technically marketed as a full size SUV meaning Durango wins that by default also I've been in an explorer shit was more cramped then the backseat of a challenger the car on the inside was very tacky with switches for auto driving amd the car looks impregnated compared to last gen before space lift and a nontumed explorer and a non tuned srt. Durango I'm taking Durango to the hotel and taking explorer to gapplebees

@scat3926 4 года назад

@@ZACH_95_ also bud sincw you really think it's necessary to continue hiw about smacking a hellcat engine in that Durango lol you cant do that you could barley fit a 5.0 in that pumy bonnet

@khackett7 4 года назад

Explorer is sharp looking too. Saw an ST today and couldn’t take my eyes off it.

@tylercouture216 4 года назад

Maybe because you thought it was a police interceptor

@howtobeatadrum 4 года назад

Mr. TAMW haha

@AbdullahZahid 4 года назад

Explorer with the 5.0 would be pretty sweeet, but the tuned explorer is fast AF!

@krystalstackhouse4134 4 года назад

They should put a hellcat motor in a Durango

@georgeschoonover368 4 года назад

Now we would be talking!!

@robertogiles307 4 года назад

They are next year

@redneckguitar6539 4 года назад

That is a hellcat engine

@s1lv3rbull37 4 года назад

Jeep Trackhawk. (Basically the same thing as a Durango)

@bigdog3929 4 года назад

krystal stackhouse would be the best all around vehicle

@cptpuma3458 4 года назад

Now I want to see the durango srt hellcat!

@hanger2633 3 года назад

It's here

@RickJohnson 4 года назад

How would the 5-star compare on a pump gas tune?

@jfsecrist 4 года назад

Yes, agreed. Apples to apples would have been nice.

@djrandol3841 4 года назад

Not to mention their DSRT way under performed from the average DSRT.

@Jaylovescars 4 года назад

No kidding. I love how nonchalant they are about mixing to e50 like it's no big deal. It makes a huge difference, especially with a boosted car. Not to mention e85 isn't available everywhere. Dead middle of the Rocky Mountains here and no e85 pumps within 75 miles of me. Still enjoyed the video tho.

@DP-nk4vu 4 года назад

Jaylovescars my thoughts exactly I was waiting for them to just skip over the fact they run e85 I’ve seen people with boosted cars just do an e85 time and pick up 40whp easy, it makes a huge difference

@alfrede.neuman8611 4 года назад

93-Octane and E85 is pump gas. Nothing exotic about it.

@Iconhulk 4 года назад

Dammmmmmnnnnn that tuned Explorer Was SIIIICK..... !!

@ThatWhiteGLI 4 года назад

11:47 " the Ford has a small Edge." Ford Pun? Lol

@johnwheeler2754 4 года назад

Lol

@user-kc8yo9yy7o 4 года назад

Lol

@Zakatak360 4 года назад

Aww man I was waiting for them to drag race with boats attached! Those STs are everywhere now and I can see why lol.

@paulrathjen5594 4 года назад

I never had my SRT Jeep ever go over 4.5 0-60 and typically was 4.2-4.3. Still impressed by the explorer ST and Tarus Sho with a tune. Not sure how long they will last tuned though.

@PeePee666PooPoo 2 года назад

Don't forget the Fusion Sport :)

@AsalynStone Год назад

i agree but could they do a comparison with a tuned e85 durango? fair is fair right

@RJC-ps6wc Год назад

And you can probably kiss the factory warranty goodbye once you have the tune!

@anaccount7923 Год назад

@@RJC-ps6wcYou don’t buy these cars to keep them stock lmao

@BlueSPARTAN97 4 года назад

Should’ve tuned both lmao Durango is a beast...

@BlueSPARTAN97 4 года назад

Joe Wheeler are you saying a tuned Explore could beat a tuned Durango?

@msrr1303 4 года назад

E-DUB tuned Durango wouldn’t have the same gains as the EB engine. Cams, bolt ons and tune should be another story.

@SuperSurviver71 4 года назад

E-DUB most likely. Tuning turbo engines does a lot more.

@brianenochs 4 года назад

💯 The SRT 392 naturally aspirated V8 is not going to see anywhere near the power and torque gains with just a high octane fuel tune as a forced induction application such as the twin turbo V6 in the Explorer. Although I do feel that the SRT would see enough of a gain with a high octane ethanol tune to give the tuned Explorer a lot closer of a race for sure. Come on guys let's compare apples to apples here.. Tuned Explorer vs. Tuned SRT and stock Explorer vs. stock SRT..

@sergeysmelnik 4 года назад

Does nobody realize you cant just "tune" a durango srt? You have to replace the ecu with a hacked one. And the tune will get you 15 hp. You can remove your cats for another 15 hp.

@mikeoxlong6351 4 года назад

Ford’s recipe: add turbos at the expense of reliability... Dodge: Just put a damn good V8 naturally aspirated engine in an SUV...

@davidpatrick8153 4 года назад

Ford: let's make a much less expensive, much better mpg SUV with a much better ride and interior than Fiat.

@michaeloliver6605 4 года назад

5 Star tunes are great! Woke my ecoboost expedition up!

@Duhme1 4 года назад

I'll take the v8 hemi and the factory warranty.

@nickaguirre8804 4 года назад

Logan Koller so Fords don’t get warranty?

@Duhme1 4 года назад

@@nickaguirre8804 not if you tune it.

@3SevenStangVids 4 года назад

@@Duhme1 Not true, I'm a service advisor at ford. We don't care

@rt4t-917 4 года назад

What ford doesn’t know, ford will never know haha.

@derekortiz3663 4 года назад

Hahahaha, wont save you.

@davidwiger6024 4 года назад

Tesla Model X P100D Ludicrous factory stock: 920 Ft-Lb torque at the wheels 588 Hp 7.3 seconds at the 1/8 mile at 96.7 mph 0-60 about 2.8 seconds

@wantsanewvehicle 4 года назад

Yes, but almost 2x as expensive as either of these vehicles. If money is not a problem, as I assume it isn't that big of a deal if you are purchasing either of these vehicles anyways, then hell yeah go for a p100d mX!

@kevinkern3848 4 года назад

One problem, it's electric.

@ggjatz2435 4 года назад

Kevin Kern word I still will drive a nice sounding but slow car than a fast but no sound at all car

@SuperchargedMM 4 года назад

You really can’t compare the 2.

@souljah2light 4 года назад

Lol let's see a Tesla tow

@trenton.tchannel1810 4 года назад

If anything this video is just showcasing how badass the Durango is. Sounds a lot better also

@davidn5861 4 года назад

True.

@trenton.tchannel1810 4 года назад

@White Wolf yeah but I think it's worth it plus I'd take my chances owning a naturally aspirated v8 vs a turbo v6. Maintenance overtime will probably be better

@theweekendwarrior6355 Год назад

Isn't the hellcat Durango the fast 3 row?

@cholodesanfe87 Год назад

Yup

@_skillfullgods_9017 4 года назад

I’d love to pull up next to some Honda in an srt Durango lmao

@TheJarred550 4 года назад

Ide drag the lights out of you

@joebalser9515 4 года назад

@@TheJarred550 LMAO ! you freaks who think that 4 bangers are something don't know what real power is. Y'all arguing over who has the faster lawnmower. NO ONE is going to be rebuilding civics in 50 years, but old muscle cars will live forever

@af7119 4 года назад

just drive on any road in any place and you have a good chance.

@Sskreechy Год назад

Take an si civic to a track against the srt Durango see who gets a better time 😂 it’s just fast in straight lines 😂 boring

@allenvaldez3555 4 года назад

Man that Tuned explorer takes off 😂

@kal6844 4 года назад

The Durango still faster he just don’t know how to drive it

@fatboyrodriguez7774 4 года назад

@@kal6844 good joke 😂😂😂

@Jimmy_MZ 4 года назад

@@kal6844 nah chief. I love a hemi but that ford hauled ass

@A-Mafia313 4 года назад

Durango driver seemed like he didn’t wanna give it gas

@raymondmosley8332 4 года назад

@@A-Mafia313 The explorer redlight too

@stillbill6408 2 года назад

You can keep your twin turbo charged, chain driven, DOHC engine with its mechanical cam phaser along with the timing chain guide woe's prevalent in the Fix Or Repair Daily "Ecoboost" (which all have been very problematic). If you own one, you are likely to become familiar with these scenarios as well as a new word to add to your vocabulary, "coking". I'll take the anvil pushrod 2-valve Gen III (or Gen I or II for that matter) hemi any day.

@Guy_de_Loimbard 4 года назад

My guess is the "hopping" you see is the AWD system variously detecting slip and shifting torque to the other axle, then shifting it back, then detecting slip, shifting torque to the other axle, shifting it back, etc

@ferretkiller9454 4 года назад

Wheel hop is due to the stock suspension bushings and control arms allowing a whole bunch of deflection under load. Nvh is a big thing and unfortunately launching doesn’t fit into that lol. Would love to see a properly sorted aftermarket setup.

@the3leggedhorse 4 года назад

So I learned that if you modify a vehicle, it makes it faster . Hmm 🤷‍♂️

@moparfam300c 4 года назад

Duhhh

@A42yearoldARAB 4 года назад

So shocking I know. Especially to 5.0 owners lol

@factthatdude4059 4 года назад

😂🤣🤣🤣

@af7119 4 года назад

depends on the modification. once i modified my 87 camaro by removing the tires and throwing away the ignition key. thing went slower than ever before.

@matthewhunter6421 3 года назад

yeah, but the question is, why not spend considerably less, even with the tune and still outperform the Dodge?

@cooldog8856 4 года назад

The Tuned Explorer ST Red Lit when the two raced.

@motiv8663 3 года назад

i don’t think anyone realizes that. of course it’s gonna win when it gets a head start.

@MichaelBrown-xp8yh 3 года назад

seemed fake to me anyway. jus an ad for 5ST

@nikwilliams4047 Год назад

doesn't matter lol still 6 tenths faster and almost 10mph faster... you could see it pulling away anyways lol

@lmcmill5964 2 года назад

I’m a Jeep Chrysler Dodge guy but I’m slowly being sold to FORD EXPLORER ST. Price is right. Third row seating. 400hp stock and can get a $600 tune that gets me 100 more HP. Yeah, fck it, I’m sold!!

@brandone.5106 4 года назад

In Maryland I get 4.6 to 60 in the Durango.

@nameless5r 4 года назад

Fastest suv on the planet Trackhawk......... Hold my 🍻

@xiruhvengex 4 года назад

He said fastest suv 3 row. Trackhawk is not 3 row but the model x p100d is and will smoke both

@luisdelpozo9674 4 года назад

nameless5r Tesla Model X..... hold my batteries

@jessperez477 4 года назад

Tesla model x and model y

@717Chris 4 года назад

Soooooooo we have to mix gas everytime we fill up how bout a regular person tune

@GoGrandpa 4 года назад

We just bought a 2020 St. My question is does the "Tune" yall did on this vehicle "void" any warranties? We just love this video. Thank you.

@rfjohns1 4 года назад

How about a mod on the Durango also, just to make it fair :)

@JM-it2zo 4 года назад

Then people would complain that it’s V8 C’s v6 even though the V8 is NA and the Ford has two turbos 🤦🏻‍♂️

@Alan-tr5uj 4 года назад

Yeah the obvious choice here would be to get ahold of a hellcat swapped Durango- forced induction vs. forced induction-- BUT that's a little overboard considering the SC 6.2 isn't offered in any Durango trim from the factory, while Ford offers the twin-turbo V6 from factory. I guess we will have to settle for an Explorer ST vs. Jeep Trackhawk comparo if we are ever to see Ford vs. Mopar forced-induction SUV's. I get some may gripe about the 6 vs. 8 angle, but honestly when you're dealing with forced induction- the amount of cylinders starts to matter much less- boost is a really great equalizer in the "no replacement for displacement" argument.

@ecoboostrules9795 4 года назад

Like what. It has a 6.4 hemi. The explorer has a 3.0 EcoBoost. 400 hp hemi 475. What's not fair here? It almost lost stock. Soooooo???? Hmmmmm????

@almightyanima7023 4 года назад

@@Alan-tr5uj chrysler is planning on a limited release of a hellcat version of the Durango after they release the next body style for the grand cherokee.

@fredeb67 4 года назад

Obviously you did not watch the whole clip or have some type of listening problem.

@jan195601 4 года назад

Put a tune on the Durango and then race the tuned Explorer

@tylercouture216 4 года назад

@@devinbender8428 your credibility went kapoof when you what you said about v8s then to only to fan boy out and be specific about turbo motors

@damionosborne1368 4 года назад

Exactly.

@moonblue3312 2 года назад

The first vehicle my husband and I bought when we got married was a Dodge Ram, the next was a Dodge Durango GT. I will never buy another brand of car. I’ve been unfortunate and had accidents in both the truck and Durango and the other cars ended up worse than ours. Performance is amazing and protected my family in both accidents.

@mikelliteras397 4 года назад

Stock Explorer was closer to the Fiat than I thought it would be

@RCPhotosVideos 4 года назад

Mike Lliteras sorry the current Durango predates FCA and the Fiat merger.

@theshield1613 4 года назад

@@RCPhotosVideos fiat Durango

@shockburn 4 года назад

The Durango is actually the WK2 platform that was Mercedes / Chrysler last joint project before fiat was involved. WK2 underpins the durango, grand Cherokee and Mercedes ML SUVs

@nyxsyn 4 года назад

It hasn't been fiatized just yet as the others have mentioned. It's still on an older platform. Next gen though, may be another story. Rumored to be on the alfa romeo platform.

@ShaneMckinley-dc9sx 4 года назад

Mike Lliteras so true

@bryanmchugh1307 4 года назад

The Durango STARTS at $64,000?! Yeesh! The tuned Ford is a better value..

@charleshenson4183 4 года назад

And alot better on fuel which adds up over time.

@firstname5912 4 года назад

Yeah it’s a better value. Until it has like 50k miles and THEN you’ll see the difference

@charleshenson4183 4 года назад

@@firstname5912 Than it'll be an even better value,because by that time you would have saved thousands on fuel 🏁

@guerrerok90 4 года назад

Charles henson dont forget the maintenance on a twin turbo ford 😂

@firstname5912 4 года назад

@kgbboxer right!!

@steventidwell3302 4 года назад

I love how they had to bring a Tuned ford to race the stock SRT. I Have a 2015 durango RT and that sucker can haul ass too. And this 2020 has WAY more Horses and Torques.

@kelvinbryant7602 3 года назад

Yea u Dodges guess what Ford bringing back the pushrods windors the 6.8 nthe mustang to u Dodge fans n cubic inches that's a 428 cubic inches n that fat Godzilla 7.3 with is a 460 so here they come

@alexanderpeter219 4 года назад

Isn’t the Tesla model x the fastest American 3 row car

@nycameleon 4 года назад

I was going to say the same thing, Model X... I guess they could add more qualifiers like 'Full Size 3 row SUV' or with seating for 8

@alexanderpeter219 4 года назад

nycameleon, I guess so

@garygeiger4890 4 года назад

True!

@AE-ix2iz 4 года назад

Alexander Paul 2 was gonna comment the same

@JT-xq2hv 4 года назад

The Model X would stomp all of these SUVs and at a fraction of the operating costs. Its just not going to tow like these vehicles. Its the beginning of the end for ICE.

@xjmg007 4 года назад

Ford gained almost exactly 1mph per 10hp. Pretty cool. In the 1/4 the gap would be intense.

@iPROxIAMROCK 4 года назад

John G You’re not wrong but they definitely should’ve raced the Jeep srt it weights like 600+ pound less would’ve been closer and more fun

@DieselJE 4 года назад

I feel like they forgot about that huge weight difference somewhere. That's impressive for a much bigger truck X'D. Also.... It's not really "just a tune" if you're using a more combustible fuel.

@florantegalamgam2231 Год назад

I can sit at the back. And listen to this guys all day. 😎

@B0RRAC0 4 года назад

So in essence, you need to tune a Ford to even compete with a stock Dodge?! Not to mention the DELICIOUS V8 sound!!! Based off sound ALONE, I'll take the Dodge any day!

@kkellerk23 4 года назад

@@devinbender8428 I'm a dodge man. And I would take the Ford all day long. Fiat has been inflating the prices lately. And haven't been selling much because of it.

@B0RRAC0 4 года назад

I do think the Ford is better looking! I just love the big V8 engine of the Dodge! Got rid of my 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit for a BMW X5 M and absolutely regretted it! Even my wife hated the sound of the BMW!

@oscaramador4200 4 года назад

Of course you need to tune a small 3.0 to beat a stock Hemi with more than twice the displacement.

@gregmatson1470 4 года назад

The price on the window and the price they actually sell for are worlds apart. As the Explorer is new, I'm sure most will sell for close to MSRP for a little while. Dodge on the other hand still has new 2018 and 2019 Durango SRTs sitting on dealer lots that can be had for $10k+ off MSRP easily as the 2020 models are now arriving. With the money saved, throw a TVS2650 on the Durango and ask for a rematch.

@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering 4 года назад

I would love to see a supercharged SRT versus a Trackhawk!

@raulchaidez2946 4 года назад

No mames that's pretty much the same shit

@raulchaidez2946 4 года назад

A track hawk is supercharged

@Tiersmoke92555 4 года назад

So tune the dodge and do it again.

@ironbull2003 4 года назад

Still will lose to a tuned TT set up.

@JuanGarcia-zq5tp 4 года назад

Who cares, the Durango looks and sounds way better. The interior is also nicer despite being older too.

@Hitman_Hugh 4 года назад

Put a Whipple on it then tune it 👍🏻

@Tiersmoke92555 4 года назад

@@KamikazeSOF2 that still put them closer in specs. Understandable the output from NA to FA is diffrent but power aside modern turning involves the whole vehicle.

@Tiersmoke92555 4 года назад

@@Hitman_Hugh now that's just no contest at all. Even at only 7lb that should be around 600-700 hp

@BrokeWrench 3 года назад

This whole test is pointless because they switched to e50 fuel. Why don't they just take a Chevy cruise 1.6 turbo and tune it for methanol and suddenly it doubles in power!!!

@charlesmarshall2697 4 года назад

Now test an SRT Durango with a Jay Greene Tune! Way faster!

@thunderroad7289 3 года назад

Two cylinders more and got ass kicked ....I hate v 6 engines but 600 bucks kicking the v8 ass

@morales14jonathan 4 года назад

Can't wait till the hellcat Durango comes out ❤

@derrickgause8419 4 года назад

I want to see tuned Durango and tuned explorer st rematch!!

@mikelsanders1633 4 года назад

N/A engines with no mods don't benefit from tunes bro the srt already uses 91 gas on 93 it will gain 10hp max.

@morganmccombs1351 4 года назад

People see much better than 10hp out of tunes on 6.4 chargers and challengers.

@huntersieling8011 4 года назад

ThaWiseMan144 no it’s not. You can get them tuned and make over 500hp

@generaluser4145 2 года назад

Poor hemi boys...outran by a v6 lol

@fopm008 4 года назад

It's not just a $600 tune if you have to premix the fuel lmfao.

@xjmg007 4 года назад

Or you could just "post mix" fill it half with 93 and half with e85. In fact I'm sure pure e85 would make more power. Mixing is probably more related to correcting some of E85s downfalls.

@fopm008 4 года назад

@@xjmg007 that changes nothing. I live in Denver Colorado, I've only ever seen 3 gas stations with E85.

@fopm008 4 года назад

And the point still stands.

@xjmg007 4 года назад

I dont get what this has to do with anything. If you could only get a 93 they could correct the injector flow and timing. You'd make a bit less power, but would always have the option to change the map for the e85 and turn it up. Some people have more fuels available to them, than others. That seems to be the only point you're making. Even with 93 you'd still be up 70hp, what other mod would net 1hp for 6 to 8 dollars?

@xjmg007 4 года назад

@@zacharyreynolds4303 ha agreed on that but good luck getting 700+ lbs out of a family car and keeping it usable.