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please tell me why the front end in most of these stages is still level with the center of the front wheel. i want to lift the body of my f150 above off-road items.. i dont understand whats lifting here, if anything? it looks like you lowered to, to lift it too... my 2019 fx4 has the same clearance as your outcomes. i want to lift the body higher off the ground.
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There's some factors to consider when you're debating between spacers and coilovers, especially if you're considering other modifications, as well as bigger tires. High quality coilovers definitely come with a heftier price tag, and if you're on a budget, you may want to go with the less expensive strut spacers and put the saved money towards the tires. The one X factor people often overlook with aftermarket coilovers is potential failure, and how you're going to deal with warranty returns. If your truck is your daily driver, and you don't have access to another vehicle, and one of your aftermarket coilovers fails, you got a problem. Chances are, whatever company manufactured them is gonna want the failed unit back before they ship you a replacement. Gonna be a little tough driving your truck with a coilover missing, eh? If you're running spacers, you simply transfer the spacer to the new strut assembly and you're good to go. You also have to be realistic about what type of environment your truck is going to be exposed to. Do you really need those high quality coilovers for the type of driving you're going to be doing? Some do, others may not. I recently purchased a 2020 F150, and have asked myself these same questions numerous times. In all reality, I'll probably go with 2" spacers and 33" tires, as the only off roading I really do is on the beach for some surf fishing. The money saved by going with spacers can go towards tires, and Borla S type exhaust. The biggest expense, at least for me, will be the stereo upgrade. Factory systems are trash. Some people will think nothing about dropping thousands on wheels, tires, lift kits, and other mods. For me, it's the sound system. I want loud, high quality sound, and I don't mind paying for it. Fortunately, the available mods for the F150 series trucks are endless. There's something to fit everyone's value system. I consider this a good thing..
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Excellent straight forward approach and easy to understand. I'm currently leveled on 33s and +1 Offset with the hockey puck style on the FX4 due to cost (as Justin mentioned). The Coilover option looks great for me and would likely be the next direction I would go due to performance and ride quality. I don't guess it would raise up the FX4 more than about another inch or so, but again I would go with superior ride quality. Just noticed I am wearing my American Trucks T-Shirt as I am typing this. Thanks Justin!
I added a 3in block on my 2010 silverado 1500 at 50k miles... the control arm bushings went out 10k miles later. Replaced it with a 2in and make sure to add block in the rear. He 3in is dumb if you dont but a block in the rear to level it out. Especially if you tow or put stuff in the back, it will squat alottt
@eternaljerks 37s are too big for the ifs suspension. 35s work well but still eat the upper ball joints every year but I also off-road about 30 trails a year.
So; a $200 2" front and rear spacer lift gives almost the same ground clearance as a $3000+ 6" lift (due to having to just drop everything back towards the ground to attain driveable geometry!) but without ALL the problems that come from being jacked to the sky. Got it thanks.
I agree but I also prefer flush finish. Would you know if a 2.5” level kit will provide sufficient clearance for 33” tires with 20” x 10.5” +12mm offset wheels?
I got all my advice, recommendations, ideas, and purchases strictly based off these videos. Justin reeled me in. Love these videos and my F-150 is starting to come along. Lol half the stuff I'm watching I've already purchased for my truck but I just love the videos and authenticity.
So if I want to level my pick up by two inches what other components should I buy to make sure that I don’t damage the truck or add unnecessary wear and tear on the the truck? Should I buy upper control arms to add? What other components if I’m leveling my truck by 2inches?
Great vid guys. I can say I have a 1996 f150 all these will work but when I did my truck I went “all out” as some would say I did full suspension lift in the front and the arched leafs in the back no added block or springs and I’m here to say it’s worth totally the extra for me was 400 bucks it rides better then stock with 10 ply 12.50 wide toyos
I like my f150 but i kinda wish I just spent half the cash to upgrade my old 07' fx4 level II ranger instead. It was almost unstoppable stock, I could have made it insane! This f150 will cost me a lot more to do what I want.
At the very least, you'd want to install a traction bar. The Shelby F-150 comes from the factory with the 6" BDS lift and an optional supercharger good for about 700hp. However, I'm not positive on any other suspension mods done to them.
Mel Laknanurak Yeah it's almost like you can't have your cake and eat it too with 1/2 ton lift kits. But I figure if the diesel guys have been running aggressive lifts and traction bars for years while still off-roading, why can't we?😲
Mine has held up Great I'm only about 425 at the wheels with my performance but will be around 750 here soon. I'm running the bds coilover's with remote reservoirs and have the traction bars sitting in my Garage now.
Very informative. Thank you. Hoping you or someone will see this after so many years. I'm considering a 3" level, with new, stronger arms, coil overs, reservoir and such, a high end levelling package, or jumping to a full on 4" lift on my anticipated new 2024 or 2025 F150, likely Platinum, maybe Tremor. Among my reasons, I want 35" tires with plenty of room (I have heard that the newer F150's currently are a bit more 35" tire friendly with less cutting needed, especially with a 9" or 10" wide tire which are my preference). Do you know, is there something you can do with a 3" level to eliminate those extra issues you referenced, and if so what? Would upgrading to better coil overs, stronger arms, reservoirs and such, maybe also that upgraded ball joint assembly you mentioned, would that be enough to resolve those issues, and if not, what else if anything can be done short of jumping to a full on 4" lift? Thanks. A big concern about jumping to a 4" lift is that from the videos it looks like that added metal going across between the front wheels actually drops down and may result in lower road clearance in that area compared to what it would be with a 3" to 3 1/2" or even 2 1/2" level. Any thoughts on that? Thanks.
In addition to my question below related to the topic of this very informative video, I have another, maybe you know the answer too. One of the reasons I am leaning towards not getting an F150 Raptor with its wonderful buttery smooth drive as so many call it, is its lower payload capacity, a potential problem if I choose to set up an overland kit. My question is, is there something that can be done to increase the Raptor's payload capacity, at least a few hundred pounds, without compromising its buttery smooth drive? Thanks. And as I've gotten older, the idea of customizing a max luxury Platinum sounds appealing.
Just spent $47k on my F150...not gonna put a $75 strut spacer on there. Just cant. Theres a feeling of pride when you jump in your truck and know you have a high quality suspension underneath it. That's just me. Coilovers and new control arms are in it for me.
thats a foolish reply. A spacer is no where intended to improve the ride quality in any shape or form. Used only to level the truck and the ability to slap on a larger tire then stock. If you want to go on about quality suspension stuff you should be talking about cheeping out on an actual lift kit. Like lifting the truck and using stock coil overs vs a lift with upgraded coil overs, CA's etc.....
Can you help..? What size tire can you fit just with a 2.5 leveling kit.. i am concern about rubing.. with 305-60-20 or 285-65-20 with a wheel size of 20x10 negative -18.. can you recomende a more aqurate wheel and tire size that will no rub on turnig... thank you
Hey Oscar, sorry for the delayed response. That is a very aggressive offset, therefore I would say the 285/65 will probably be your best bet but even then you may encounter the smallest amount of rubbing on the crash bars at full lock. -Justin
It's crazy how people will spend $45k+ on an F-150 but scoff at the idea of spending $2k on a lift kit. Me personally, I'm not gonna take my new truck and put strut spacers on it. Rides terrible and it's just cheap. Expensive truck....expensive lift. They go hand in hand.
Quite a bit better than factory. I really like the adjustability I can turn the dial on the remote reservoirs for street and cruising and adjust the damping for more serious offroading or high speed dirt/sand driving.. what I also like is I'm only running the 4" and mine (18) is almost the same height as my friend 13 f150 with a 7in readylift . I'm running 35's with 0 trimming or rubbing and I could run 37's and might have to trim a little off the crash bars at most
I have a 2015 f150 with the coyote 5.0 cold air intake 6 inch pro comp lift 37 x 20 x 13.50 an it's mean looking it's about to go bigger going to do all leads in the back an add another 3 inch lift to it soon have 40 inch tires under it
Great video! Question: I have a 2022 Ford F-250 and recently purchased a 2.5” readylift with track bar kit. However the kit did not come with castor shims. They state it is not needed, I am seeing others where they state they are needed. Thoughts?
Damn... so I need some help. I have an 01 F150 Harley Davidson edition. I hate the lowrider look & wanted to lift it. Considered a 5" and some 35's. But now I saw this video. I dont want to do any cutting. I want this truck to be able to go back to stock if its ever sold since its somewhat of a collector truck. What option do i have trying to achieve that look without permanently modifying the truck
Looking to fix Mr Toads Wild Ride.I have a 2001 Ford 150 4x4 4door. I would like to do a suspension overhaul of the truck to get it driving nicely again and to stop the white knuckle grip. Any suggestions you can recommend would be great. I don’t want to lift it at all. All ready sits on 33’s.
What coilover lift would you recommend for lots of highway driving and then TONS of dirt road, big wasboard Utah backroad driving, with the occasional rock crawling? I currently have a Tacoma with Old Man Emu and LOVE the handling on and off road. I'm looking at buying an ecoboost with a mild overland build in back.
As always, it really boils down to budget. If you're hitting a lot of the big washboard stuff then you might want to invest in some quality hardware to smooth things out- especially at speed. You can't really go wrong with any of the big body/Rezzy'd Fox coils with the DSC but I've also been really impressed by the Icon stuff and the Teraflex Falcon dampers- they reuse the factory spring but lift the front end through different perch heights. Quality of the dampers are killer. -Justin
@@americantrucks Thanks Justin. I personally would want as much travel as possible (for those times when I hit those dips or washouts a little too fast). So I'd probably like to avoid using the factory spring. I watched a ton of your videos last night and I really like what you did on the black "Ecoboost Street Build", but I definitely push my rigs to the max, so was thinking of starting with the Roush Fox 2.0 Coilovers, throw on 33" w/ mild offset (or more -- depending on if I want to invest in fenders), get the oil separator and maybe an upgraded air intake. Not trying to go over $5k right off the bat. But I want to be able to drive comfortably for long distances on the highway, while being able to charge and have fun on desert dirt, while having the confidence to go where I want. Really dig the look of that blue f150 in the review of the Roush shocks.
I’m going to be buying a 2017 ford raptor and I am trying to figure out and find the best leveling kit for the front probably around 1.5 inches that way I don’t sacrifice any or at least minimal ride comfort, performance, etc. i’m getting multiple opinions so I can get the best results that I’m looking for and looking for suggestions! Thank you!
I would go with a collar from Icon or something similar. -Justin www.americantrucks.com/icon-vehicle-dynamics-05225-attitude-adjustment-collar-leveling-kit-1718-raptor.html
Will adaptive cruise and lane keep be affected from front end lifts? As more and more trucks add these systems i'm curious if you've seen any problems post lift/level. This topic needs to be addressed and you guys seem like the folks to do it.
It shouldn't- I know of a few trucks personally that were fine after a lift/level without using any calibration that others have previously mentioned. -Justin
I have the Rough Country 6” on my 2017 F-150 4x4. All was good the first couple years, and now my camber is way off, and I’m chewing up my high dollar tires. Had it at the alignment shop, and they say it’s in spec, but I can visually see it’s way off. Can anyone help with a fix for this?
What's up guys? This video was very insructive and helpful, thanks again Justin. But 2 thing: I was told that the stut spacer compromise the "droop travel", what are the consequences if there are any and will a 1.5' spacer affect the droop travel also. Another thing you've mentioned 3 types of leveling kit but what about the perch collar( svc, rpg, icon etc.)? These are the ones that mount at the base of the spring, what are the pros and cons? And if Im not going crazy with my leveling( 1.5') what would be best a strut spacer or a perch collar? Why? Waiting for your comments guys
Hey Don- first up thanks for the kind words, Its greatly appreciated. In regards to your question a 1.5" leveling kit will be one of the safer ways to go as its not terribly drastic and should still allow for full articulation of your suspension without putting your angles/geometry at a compromising position. Now a 'perch collar' or 'perch mod' is typically something that is done when talking Raptors and does not exist for a standard F-150 due to the different front suspension/coil-over design. When shopping for a strut spacer in the 1.5" range its hard to grab a 'bad' option- most will be made from billet aluminum including the ReadyLift, Fabtech, Motofab, etc which is what I would go with. -Justin
Sorry Don- I was under the impression you had a standard F150 and not a Raptor. That's my bad! If you have a Raptor then yes, a perch collar will be the way to go- we offer an Icon collar on the site that will allow you to lift the front end anywhere from a .5" all the way to 2.25". Hope this helps! -Justin
@@americantrucks LOL, it is a Raptor indeed, I should have been more precise on my question... in fact I saw the ICON collar on the website, but I also saw a READY LIFT spacer that fits 17 and up Raptors, so if both would work and would not harm the truck can I take the ready lift kit? What do you think? I know you have thousands of followers asking you questions, this should be my last one about this topic... and thanks again what you are doing is priceless bro!
I would suggest the collar as opposed to the spacer on the Raptor. The top mount spacer might cause the shock to bottom out on compression where as the collar will change the preload but shouldn't affect total travel. And don't be afraid to ask away Don- I think you're over estimating my 'fame' haha. -Justin
Hey guys thanks for all your videos.. I just want to level my 2017 F150 up in the front a little. Would a one and a half inch leveling kit make my truck ride any differently? Thanks Joe.
When I first leveled my 2016 f150 I had a company put on a 2" spacer on the front end and it leveled my truck. Ride quality unloaded didn't suffer but when loaded she definitely had a Cali lean and road pretty rough. This past year I went with the fox 2.5 coilover leveling kit and it's a completely different truck on the road. Accompanied with the sumo springs in the rear my truck drives great even when I have the 32' bumper pull RV on the back. I highly recommend going with a Coilover kit instead of spacer if you can fit it in your budget.
I've had a bilstein level kit for over a year in my garage for my f150. Dont seem to ever have the time for my truck to be down to install it. I really need to as both my coil springs are broke and it rides like a wagon.
@Americantrucksford Looking for suggestions on a lift kit. Or my stock 2016 F150 super crew xlt fx4 short-bed. Wish to keep the factory rake. Want a 2-3” lift but don’t want to mess up the geometry or cause uneven wear. Suggestions?
I went with rough country level lift 2.5 front level with 1" block in the rear with n2 shock since I needed new shocks and the lift was cheeper I went that way best $159 I spent
Ok, I have an 03 F-150. It has 2 inch spacers in the back, looks to be leveled. It was like that when I bought it. This truck was a fleet truck, I am the second owner. I believe it was like that from Ford, nothing looks aftermarket. The only thing I am going after is a bit more ground clearance. I am running a 285/75-16, how would I approach going with a 315/75-16. I really don't want to permanently modify my truck, if I don't need to. That being said, I don't want to go spend 2 grand or more on new wheels. This truck is for working out in the fields. It's not a toy. I just want a little more out of it. This is kind of a long comment-question, but the more info given, the better the answer.
I had an 03 with rough country 2.5" leveling kit with 295/70/17s and that's really the biggest you can go on a leveling kit. 315s would be a very tight fit and you will have to do major trimming. I suggest doing maybe a 3" body lift or a Rough Country 4-5" suspension life.
I have a 2017 ecoboost f150 with the rough country 6” lift kit and I HATE IT!!! sure it looks good tall and flashy but ride quality is not there at all. Morning dew on an overpass makes the rear of the truck slide to the side- it’s not safe at all!! Someone had to say it. I bought the truck as is, later down the road I plan to reverse it, just wanted to give info to people in search of something similar.
I have a 2wd 2010 ford f150 harley edition . If i use a 6 inch rough country lift , will there be any cutting involved and will i be able to return it to stock later on if i want too?
Hey I have a f250 & I want about a 3 inch lift what’s that best? & I want to fit 24s on but don’t know what size tire I should get ? Third I wanted a slight offset but -24 maybe. I need help. What would you suggest?
So if I do a 2.5” coil over level and run about a 33”-34” tire are my cv angles bad? If so can you do I diff drop to correct it? I want low center of gravity and off-road performance.. thanks
Informative video but are you the owner of the shop in Malvern, PA? I certainly hope not as there are a slew of 1 star reviews from a ton of very unhappy customers on google reviews