Is the 10 speed a bad transmission? In this video I will share my experiences and how I have changed the way I operate my 10 speed to give me the best driving experience I can get from it.
Excellent overview of the issues/potential remedies. I appreciate your demonstration of the locking out gears and using the M mode. I’ll start doing that in the campgrounds. Thanks for the shout out! Like you- I think coming from a diesel to the large gas engine is also part of why I’m feeling the difference in the engine/transmission combination. We’ve got another update coming up about our truck in a few weeks.
I owned a 2024 Chevrolet 2500 6.6 gas with 10 speed. Owned it for 1 year. Was in the shop 3 times for 28 days. The transmission was shifted hard very hard from 7th to 8th gear. When towing you would think you ran into something. Filled a case with GM. Never could get it fixed. GM had a service bulletin out about it . I got rid of it. I never want a 10 speed again. You shouldn’t have to make all those concessions to drive a truck.
@@markanderson7570 unfortunately it does seem to be the norm, not all owners share experiences but you can rest assured, we are not alone. Thanks for watching!
Newer transmissions in these trucks from Ford and GM have very tight torque converter stalls, so they want to go when the engine is at high idle. I have also gotten in the habit of letting the engine idle down a bit first before shifting into drive or reverse. When I shift into drive, I hold on the brakes for a few seconds to give the transmission time to pump fluid everywhere that needs it.
I also have the 10r140...2020 F350 with 6.2L. Had the transmission replaced under warranty at 38K. I had the rough shift from R to D, especially when cold. Now I wait for the engine to idle down after start up, it shifts very smooth with no problems. It also gives the transmission time to warm up before driving. Good advice for others with 10R140 10 speeds.
A couple years back we had a F150 with the (then new) 10spd. It too would lurch during a cold start like you mention. Had it to the dealer a couple times and they claimed they couldn’t replicate it. Ended up selling the truck off shortly after that started, as I just couldn’t trust it to not fall into a gear (especially during a remote start or whatnot). It’s disturbing it’s happening to the Super Duty’s now too. I’m glad you’re able to work around it though!
@jessehines444 The parking gear in most transmissions isn't that strong. My wife wife drives a Subaru with a CVT so we got in the habit of using the parking break a long time ago. It shouldn't be necessary but it's an easy habit to get into after a few weeks. Thanks for watching.
What really bothers me is i have had a 7.3 with the 10 speed and now a 6.7 with the 10 speed and the 6.7 doesn’t really do any of the weird stuff like the 7.3 did. I do get a weird shift out of 3rd at times if I’m light on the throttle
Not too surprising to hear that I guess, The 6.7 makes it's torque at a lower RPM so I would imagine the 10 speed programming is completely different for the 10 speed when it's behind the Power Stroke. How many miles do you have on the 6.7 so far?
@@robertweller2662 7500 yeah i think the fact that it is always at 600 rpms on start up helps with engagement. I dont understand why ford can’t program the rpms to drop when u push the brake like the diesel does id it goes into high idle
I think when they added a bit of HP and Torque to the 7.3 in 2023 they also made adjustments to the transmission timing via the computer. Lot less reports of this from more recent trucks. I have a 2024 and don't have any of these issues.
That's good info. I wonder if Ford will put out a TSB allowing dealers to update / adjust programming on the 2020 - 2022 trucks. I am going to check into this. Thanks for watching and commenting.
My 2023 7.3 Tremor didn't do the hard engagement for the first 6 months, now, It does. It has always had an issue with placing the vehicle in park, shutting off the motor and then letting off the brake and the truck rolls forward and then engages resulting in a hard shaking stop that usually results in the truck rocking back and forth. It seems as though the parking lock pin is always 4 or 5 inches away from lining up and has to roll into it. I didn't get to listen to the whole video as I am at work (I own my business), so does Ford have a fix for these issues yet or not?
@@SteveShelton-hh4xt Not that I am aware of, check out the rest of the video when you get a few minute. I discuss the procedure I use with setting the parking break and shifting to neutral before Drive or Reverse. Thanks for watching.
It's the EPA and their emissions regulations. These trucks aren't forced to be EPA rated but they still have to meet emissions requirements and that's why Ford tuned this transmission to try to lug the engine so much.
Not really sure about your shift from start theory. I have a 2020 F250 with Tremor package. Dealer replaced torque converter and fixed the issue. There is a definite problem with some of them though. I DO wait until RPMs drop and I DO set parking brake every time. Had bad shift points including coming to a stop at red light and truck staying in 10th gear. The only fix was to shut off truck and restart, then it would start in 4th gear. I have 1 more time in shop for a full replacement then I’m lemon lawing this thing. The reboot of transmission made things worse then they replaced guts which did fix issues. Now I’m just waiting for the last fix so I can ditch it. By the way I’m only at 36000 miles so there’s that. You shouldn’t have to go through all these “tricks” on a newer vehicle to make it work properly.
@@CR3WDUD3_OFFICIAL I’m sorry you are having all the trouble that you are. I have been there. In 2003 I bought a brand new Chevy Silverado. Tranny was junk from day one. I ended up getting it bought back under the Lemmon law. I did say in the video that there are some bad ones out there that need transmissions replaced. Obviously yours fits the bill. I also agree that for what we paid for these trucks that they should not require all these little tricks to make them work right. For that matter I would prefer a manual transmission, However, I and several people bought these trucks and now have to either figure out a way to get along with them or get rid of them. Being miserable and complaining about it won’t do me any good so I chose to try and make it work. Given what I have had good luck with, I thought it best to share my success to try and help others that may be encountering the same concerns. What I have suggested won’t help everyone and I know that but if I can help a few then that is a few more people that can move on with life and not have to live with things not working the way they should. Yours being a 2020 and the first year of the 10 speed is no doubt a big reason you are having all the issues. I purposely waited until the 3rd year of the 7.3 engine and the 10 speed transmission to buy one hoping I would avoid a lot of the problems. Good luck with yours. I hope they’re buy it back as it sounds like that is what needs to happen in your case. I hope your next truck performs better for you. Good luck and thanks for watching!
@@TheShooter466 you are not wrong, unfortunately it is the reality we have to contend with so I hope my tips and tricks are helpful to many who just want to get along with their trucks. Thanks for watching.
@@phooesnax No not in most cases. The only surging I have ever really felt is when the truck is cold and I am being really light on the throttle. Once it’s up to temp no surging.
Had a 2021 Chevy 2500 6.6 gas , shifted hard and clunked into gear , hated it , bought a Ram 2500 ,best smoothest transmission I’ve ever owned, love it so far , 13k on it and I think it’s getting better if that possible.
@@robertweller2662 I work for a Tier 1 supplier on the Super Duty (P708) program. Ford does put the 10R100 & 10R140 behind the 7.3L. I suspect the transmissions act similarly as they are both 10 speeds; it is good that you have the heavy duty one.
@@danielking3611 I read that Ford came out with the 10R100 in 2023 to replace the 6R100 that was behind the 6.2 and that they were putting the new 10R100 behind the 6.8. If they are putting it behind the 7.3 too that is interesting. Either way, my Truck is a 2022 so it has the 10R140 and the 7.3. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@pnwsocalfishing If they sold these trucks with manual option, I would have one. Raised both my kids and made them both learn to drive a manual for their first cars. Thanks for watching.
@@genehart261 To my knowledge the last HD truck made with a manual was the Dodge. Not sure if you could get the manual with a gasser or if only behind the diesel and not sure when they stopped offering it or if they still do.
@@michaeljordan4571 They are built to work. Mine is great when loaded. Driving empty seems to generate the majority of the drivability issues. Thanks for watching.
