Former British soldier here. I was watching the video, obviously hoping that our SF would be at the top but I definitely cant argue about the skill and likeability of the ‘strailians. My best mate was an Aussie commando and that man can brighten up the most dismal f*cking nasty, rainy cold shit day and turn it into a laugh. 🍻 Great vid. 🙂
ROK Marine here. Spot on about the ROK side. We hate it too, it's so suffocating LOL. Just the entire culture in general is like that. The strict East Asian culture where discipline and power hierarchies are on steroids. It's a big reason why our SOF community and the military retention rate as a whole are dying. (I have heard about how the ROKA SWC is a bit over the top with appealing to their COC, compared to ROK NSW/ROKMC Force Recon and etc. It's even a known thing among the ROKs.) Yup, combat experience is rare. Most combat experience our guys have are border skirmishes, anti-piracy OPs, artillery exchanges,/IDF, and mine incidents that happen occasionally. (We get shit on by the ROK 'Nam/DMZ[when the DMZ was actually fucking active and crazy] vets all the time for it 😂) But hey, thankfully it's been getting better nowadays. LMFAO. Been enjoying your videos, keep up the good shit man.
I was US Army at the JSA on camp Bonifas in 2015. While I wasn't SF or working with SF, the JSA ROK infantry guys are supposed to be at least a little bit better than the rest, and I can say for them, they were pretty bad in terms of just complaining, tired, unmotivated... You nailed it with the hiarcy thing and I can attest to that as I've been back and forth to Korea for the last 8 years, because I have a Korean wife and three half Korean kids who go to Korean school. Military hiarcy mixed with Korean culture is a toxic combo for sure.. I don't even want my son's to go to the Korean army to maintain citizenship anymore, it's disgusting.
@@AlwaysFknSalty Makes sense. They were forced into it. That's a big reason why the people who do join the ROKMC do so. It's the only volunteer branch. Everyone's here because they want to be.
Never was special anything just a navy mechanic. Singapore was probably the worst group we ever had to work with . The French navy was always a pleasure to work with and they had beer on their boat. Only 1 a day but it was nice .
Happy to hear CSOR and CANSOF got ranked so high As pissed as I am about how the CAF is being manhandled, I hope that CANSOF will find ways to keep quality persons despite the cuts
The way CANSOF is set up, with guys being fed into it primarily from infantry units, we need to work as a country on making sure that that infantry to SF pipeline is strong.
Great to hear you have the Aussies up the top! I must also mention that our brother across the ditch, the New Zealand SAS are also up there with the best..
@LongShadong Haha when it comes to sports yeah we like to bash each other and talk shit but when it comes to war we will always have each others backs ANZAC
Hey man, this was awesome. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I know it's a long shot due to the controversial aspect, but you should do one where you share your opinion on all of the American SOF units you worked with.
Back in 70/71 in Vietnam while doing recon in bush,could always know when a US marine unit was close,could smell the distinct camel/Winston cigarettes smell,was dead give away,some weed also,we never compromise our position just let ramble by,ex Aussie sas 68 to 76.
@@braveworld2707 VC also had a soft spot for Australians because we buried the dead enemy & marked the grave for the Red Cross to recover later. That was in line with Vietnamese Catholic culture.
My family member is in the Aussie military, they work in a support role, nothing combat related. However, they told me drop out rate for just the regular infantry is pretty high. It's one of the most coveted roles in the Army but lots of people get injured, are not conditioned enough and so on and they need to transfer to other roles. This is just their anecdotal experience from talking to other service members who gave it a shot. I always though it wouldn't be 'that hard', in the sense that an average fit person could keep up but apprently that's not the case. As a non military person, hearing that put things into perspective for me, more than any documentary or whatever, how tough the SF standards must be to meet.
I'm aiming for the RAR and then eventually SF but, shit the infantry is tough enough in Australia hey.. I'm 15 but have plenty of time to prep thankfully
@@vinceversinceAU Good on ya mate, I was like that when I was 15 too. I joined when I 18 and was in 2RAR. I went all around the world on deployments. It's the best job in the world, probably even better than you imagine it to be.
We had Aussies on exchange at our UK unit for a year! Beer monsters!! Shamed our whole regiment and most of the local civ pop in a steel working town 😂 that’s the convic moon shine upbringing 🇦🇺 🇬🇧😂
@@ValhallaVFT we had COs Pt organised for last day before summer leave. We had 3 Aussies still drinking beer at 7am whilst everyone was getting ready for parade 😂 then an 8mile Tab 🫣 they still managed it 👊🏻🇦🇺
Also how well equipped were the Mongolians? Were they just really good from a mountaineering/ physical standpoint but underfunded? Were they better than you guys at Mountain ops? I imagine they had horses ha
They were definitely better than us at rock climbing, not necessarily operations. And they had actually just stood the unit up recently so not that high level of equipment at that time.
Actually SAF unit in the Philippines have more combat experience than any other SOF unit in the Philippines. They take down and hunt high value targets in Mindanao that was actually insane. They work together with Light Reaction Regiment from AFP.. Actually SAF and LRR is the best unit in the Philippines especially the Marawi Siege they are tandem.
Brits hella angry in the comments but the man is speaking from his experience. I'll take his opinion over some random, drunk, Chelsea soccer hooligan any day lol
Got a query for ya, you spent time in Aussie land in Talisman Sabre, how do you rank the American G.I against the Aussie Rifleman. Taking SF out of the equation here.
Before 2cdo was 4RAR based at Holsworthy in NSW Australia ,which wiped Indonesian special forces search party dressed as civilians in East Timor which was tracking 4RAR soldiers in the jungle but got chopped by heavy machine gun fire and one got head blown apart by a grenade launcher fired into vacant build which they tried to hide after brief skirmish in jungle but it's been said TAG West is the best unit tactically for any type international incident basically best of all spec ops soliders selected to be in tag west which also counter terrorism unit does west coast of Australia for terrorism an TAG East is similar but on eastern coast which is also based in Holsworthy barracks
Where are you getting the info about the Indonesian SF? The action you refer to were pro Indonesian Militia. Kopassus were believed to of helped coordinate the Militia but were not believed to have been involved in the action. Also, it was a SAS patrol and not a 4 RAR (CDO) patrol that was involved.
P.S. 2 Comando and other Australian military forces do NOT have the power to randomly go out and arrest civilians, they CAN depending on the premises, i.e. defence force premises, but just to wander out and arrest people..NO! I find it hard to give credibitilty now this guy has said that..maybe he just didn't understand?
Hey man. Do you have any experience working with the Malaysian Army Special Forces? Not trying to thump my chest. Just wanna know your input about our guys. Are they shit or squared away?
@muazazman3999 , probably more mind set. I saw them on one exercise, when the company were doing a company attack. They did not have bfa,s and had to re cock each shot. They did not perform any fire and movement, did not look for cover or decent firing positions, and most did not even aim in the direction of the Attack. I did see thir SF carry out some demonstrations and they were good, also their survival guys did some work with us, and again were very good. Their equipment was not bad, they were using Styer Aug, and their MREs were better than ours. We were very very good at counter insurgency, and worked in 9 man sections. Every one of us was a good navigator, and could problem solve, we were flexible. In my time 80s to mid 90s, I think in that role we were as good as any unit that I came accross, probably better than most. I trained with UK, US Army and Marines, NZ Infantry,and Malay. Came accross others as well, but did not train directly with them. I stress, I am only saying we were better at counter insurgency, in a bush scenario. In full on war, I would NOT want to be up against any US force, as their logistics and fire power is second to none, and it does not matter how skilled small units are when an A10, or 155mm regt is on to you, followed by a large body of grunts.
@@Donatellooo77x that comment is absolutely embarrassing ,, again british sas can back up there history, why is gign better? lots of history books about the sas , ww2, falklands, Malayan Emergency,Iranian Embassy Siege,Operation Banner,,ect ect ect,,,, every gobshite on social media thinks there country has the best whatever ,, history tells you a tiny island changed the modern world,, but the british and french have had the most battles than any other ,,, so be proud of that,,,lol
@@ValhallaVFT either one but mainly us like 82nd or 101st, wanting to go sof but my running is no where near where it needs to be and am looking for a stepping stone
1st ID deployed to Afghanistan in 2011 to integrate with ODAs and MARSOC and help with VSO. We were relieved by 82nd. I'm not aware of any other conventional units that worked SOF missions.
Thai SF are decent. Aussie SF and alot of the ODA guys/JUSMAG ect work and train with them on the regular so they get exposed to alot of outside influences.
Video Request: Why don't more SOF guys go into politics and run for office after service. The nuance in the within the question for why I am asking I think but, Curious nonetheless.
I’ve already been approached about running for the house of reps. seat in my district. Most of us are disillusioned by the government by the time we’re done, so that’s probably has a lot to do with it.
@@ValhallaVFT Yes. I understand completely Rather That disillusionment would sound like ammo to be changes needed from people who have experience in the space of the problems vs people who don't who make decisions Granted let's not take away the abstract podium of awareness spectrum that SOF dudes tend too have in general. But in all generality. I mean prior SOF dudes in political positions would have been a game changer if supported stance in 10-15 years. Better late than never. I suppose. Sad to see all that energy put overseas but when it's time to have some changes domestically it seems like guys don't have that same energy... Especially from a mission of what Green Beret Does... it just makes sense... But It is what it is.
@@ViewtifulBr080 would the country be infinitely better off if a bunch of SOF guys were in congress? Yes, because besides Dan Crenshaw we can’t be bought.
Hey man! If you were to compare Russian Spetsnaz to a US special forces unit, what would you compare them to? (Given the fact you haven't trained with russian spetsnaz Lol)
I'm no expert, but I did read during the Syrian war , when the russians got involved even though they had spetznaz they realised they had no special forces tier 1 unit organisation structure like western sas , delta force units . They also did not have the kit , so they created a unit and purchased hi tec western kit from abroad . They performed well
You’re asking about a vague term that could include anything from a local SWAT team to Delta, there is no unit nor type of unit simply classified as “Spetsnaz”.
@@Foxtrottangoabc not really true, as the Russians created their SSO unit (lit. translated as "SOF") in 2009 and the SOF Command was created in 2012. The Command is basically the Russian JSOC in terms of strategic objectives, funding, training etc., so it's Tier 1. They were the fellows pulled the Crimea op in 2014 backed by the 45 Airborne Recon (for comparison, think Delta with the Rangers as the support element). Even then, it was actually 1999 when Tier 1 elements in Russia began to form (the "sunflower" lads, based off a GRU Training Centre), just 20-ish years after Delta.
How can you compare Russian SOP to U.S? Do you know anything about the Russian structure? Do you have a reliable information source? I sure don't know anything about them. I tried lookng up.
You've never served a day in your life, have you, mate? I have and I've worked with US Forces. There's no difference. We are both trained to the same standard. A different approach maybe, but ultimately, we arrive at the same level.
Dude, what are you saying!? I'm British and can't stand all this who's best nonsense.......all the top guys are the same with the same mindset ......what are you 10 years old!.....Grow up!
As a Korean, very embarrassed that the Korean special forces were in a low rank, than completely convinced when I heard that the training was all a play lol I only served for a short period of time as a conscript, but the vertical culture of the Korean military, closed communication, training that had nothing to do with actual combat, inefficient customs, etc. were really annoying things during my service. I think the Korean military is particularly severe, although it may be a thing of every military. Many young officers try to solve this, but most of them leave the army before long. As the population decreases, the number of conscripts is also decreasing, and the application rate for officers and NCO is gradually decreasing, and the rate of early discharge is increasing. I'm really worried! Thanks for your video. Well observed.
Only 1st special regiment and grom (hr oriented) were involved in combat. Maybe their Formoza (seal equivalent) was also but little. Grom and psk/jwk was working with green berets. And some stories I’ve heard there was an American operator that during exercise with polish sof accidentally shot a „hostage” target and got immediately discharged by his sergeant major but I don’t know the full story
The Filipino SF follow the famous Recondo School type of training, dating back to the Vietnam War. Back then, the graduation consisted in a week-long Recon Patrol behind Enemy Lines. You survive, you graduate. Crazy shit.
Didn’t the Philippine government recently offer the Moro to have a say in governance and they accept? So the live action recon wouldn’t happen now or is it still on like kong?
@@radaraacf It still happens. There are still belligerents like Abu Sayaf and Commie rebels. There are still Moro rebels who are not taking part of the peace deal
Nice, a little surprised that you haven't encountered the NZSAS or the SBS given the range of SOF teams you've covered ... nice to have a straight narrative without all the BS photos and other visual props 🙏
Thank you for sharing your thought. For Canadian 🇨🇦 SF, I am assuming you mean CSOR (Tier 2) and not JTF2 (Tier 1)? Because your list had a mixture of the two tiers.
I think you got on correct point. Real combat experience and Culture things. KR have typical vertical culture even in SF. Our last combat experience was Vietnam war. It was long time ago and after we got nothing on combat experience.
Tysvm on ur service in the USA military. I’m from Canada and retired from the Canadian CF Myself. God bless u and ur family and the other NATO members that’s still serving.
Im a follower of your channel, and that was a great video. Question for you, if you can reply: -If one has passed SFAS and getting ready for SFQC, what manuals do you recommend studying for tactics? -Ranger Handbook -Inf Squad/Platoon ATP 3-21.8 -Small Unit Tactics Handbook by Paul LeFavor
Ranger handbook is a standard, it will help you immensely in SUT. Small unit tactics handbook is also very good. Those two is probably All you need to be honest.
Only caveat I would add mate is that there are pretty high level legislative authorisations around 2 Cdo Regt doing domestic ops. It basically has to be a pretty fucked situation for the boys to be recalled to assist.
Was coming in to say the same thing... there are a LOT of legislative hoops that need to be checked off before anything close to resembling that kind of action would come into effect. Police Special Operations (with whatever cool acronym and patch they've come up with now) jealously guard that kind of work, even when they botch it spectacularly, like the Lindt Cafe.
SF Interoperability between Nations is incredibly important, now more than ever with the increased threat of symmetrical warfare from a rising china and belligerent Russia abreast of the continuance of asymmetrical within the Middle East. So rating how well US SF works with partner forces is actually a valid stat, as the ability to operate effectively in unison will be a force multiplier in large scale operations. Very happy to hear 2CDO and SAS rate highly being an Aussie Vet, but that’s in our nature I think, we love a good scrap (fight) and the ‘work hard - play harder’ ethos is engrained in our military culture, or at least I hope it still is. Great vid, cheers 🍻
Russian SF were half decimated at the beginning of the war as they were used as basic infantry and got whacked in conventional exchanges. Very doubtful they’ll back to any reasonable levels for a decade if that.
@@neillgowans4350 Western media claimed at the time that 90% of the Russian Spetznatz and Airborne were KIA. It turned out that less than 10% were actually deployed to action and that it was a very limited operation (180.000 soldiers), nowhere near a "full-blown invasion" as the western media called it until not long ago.
@@neillgowans4350 That’s the biggest load of horse crap I’ve ever heard lol. Pure propaganda. Russian SF is arguably the most combat experienced/effective in the world at the moment.
I've seen a few clips of joint exercises between green berets and indian para sf. Whats your opinion on them or know any colleagues who have worked with them?
If you have the time and willingness, I would like to suggest a future video. In which you discuss more in depth about the issues you had with some units. For example, Japan, Korea or any others. I understand you mentioned "optics". Meaning, of course, the "theatrics" regarding how a said unit performs in front of the chain of command. Again, "the culture" being a significant reason behind such mentalities. Naturally, a unit doesn't improve when they don't learn to adapt in such a potentially high-risk situation. From what you mentioned, it seems like they wanted to practice a specific situation in a well-rehearsed-controlled environment and with a predictable outcome. So, as to appear to operate as what is expected of a top Tier 1 unit to the chain of command. Which is not necessarily reflective of what they may or may not be capable of realistically? Because such situations are anything but predictable. The idea of such training, I imagine, is to find weaknesses and hone and develop skills that allow operatives/teams to adapt to high risk situations and complete the task/mission to the very best they can ideally achieve.
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could you tells us about indian sof units cause honestly most of the indian sof units have constantly been battle tested since 65 - current but we dont know much about them and indian sources tend to hype their millitary's capability so honestly im not sure of what to make of them
military comps are not a waste of time but theyre really the about the best trainers not the best fighters. Has Columbia been in many wars lately? Serious question, combat experience counts.
The PNP SAF you mentioned was police unit. You should have worked with the AFP units like the Light Reaction Regiment, NAVSOG, Scout Ranger and the SF those were really on par with western special units, highly skilled and experienced in a subpar equipment.
overproud afp check 🤣 tingin mo dyan hindi nakipag trained sa ibang unit ng AFP ? USSF green beret yan engot 🤣 tuturuan mo pa yung instructor 🤣 nanunuod ka na nga hindi mo pa naintindihan sinasabi 🤣 pilit mo pa yung SR na mga hilaw 🤣
@@scaucymancannotdiebaby7034 kawawa ka naman 🤣 haha alam na alam ng USSF kung sino mga hilaw at walan pinag aralan na mga highschool na uhaw sa atensyon at papuri 🤣 mga mabababang uri hahahaha
well most brits know our history ,,we dont need bullshite social media gobshites saying there sf are better when they cannot back it up like us brits,,,, our warriors did more in ww2 than the rest of the world has done in a lifetime ,, butthurt? yes its about our evolution and no country on this planet comes close ,
Not nearly as much experience, working with far fewer units. But I agree. ANA Commandos were scary and dangerous to work with. I worked with an Afghan SF medic and didn't realize he wasn't one of our guys at first. He was awesome to work with. I didn't work closely with the Brits, but we never had to worry about them and their AO. I also had the chance to work with UAE guys, and we enjoyed working with them. There are a lot of great Special Operations units from all over the world, and it was a privilege to work with a couple of them (not the Commandos).
What about the Dutch? We have the KCT (equivalent to green berets) and Marsof (equivalent to Marsoc/seals) and they are pretty capable from what I hear.
@@georgeedmond3401 yeah I know wiseacre, the question was mostly directed to the comment section. Also he could’ve heard something from the other group that works in Europe mostly.
Israeli SF must get up to all sorts of crazy sh*t. They must have some sort of ground presence in Iran, Yemen, etc. for things to happen with such lethal regularity. In the past they sent the general staff reconnaissance unit into Egypt to tap their cables and communications lines so there’s precedent. Presently they routinely operate in Palestinian cities (often undercover) - so it’s not a stretch to imagine them operating in the far abroad in much the same way.
Was solidly hoping to see if you trained with the Indian Para SF, not many stories about Indo-US sf training out there. Would love to hear an outside perspective
A large part of that reason is that India does tend to hang out under the Moscow umbrella of influence, more than most. India is actually in multiple joint research projects with Russia. Also have some mutual defense agreements. So of course the U.S. will not be interacting militarily with Indian military all that often. But hey, you get Russian military tech on the cheap. LOL
@@DumbGrunt.0311 Goes to show how little you know mate. Para SF is literally the most capable high altitude force in the world. The US and Brit SF are in joint training programs with the Para SF. The more you know
@@PaperbackDreamsMusic yeah they’re so good that on a 30 man training jump all 30 soldiers were seriously injured plus 1 bystander. Being tolerated by the top dogs doesn’t make you a top dog.
@@DumbGrunt.0311 Source: Trust me bro. Dude, neither the Indian government nor its army or its special forces require tolerance from the 'top dogs'. India has maintained and strengthened her geopolitical stance and is considered to be an important player and diplomatic ally by all the blocks. It is because of the army and its special forces that India has maintained its growth trajectory and sovereignty all the while being surrounded by ill-intentioned nations. And to answer your extremely contrived western basement dwelling narrative, the western regiments don't train with the MARCOS commandos, Rashtriya Rifles, CIF, and Para SF for nothing. There is a lot to be learned and taught.
did you ever work with Pakistani SF they must have experience fighting the pakistani taliban too i guess ,also how are the indian para sf guys they also have been fighting insurgencies in india both there armies are amongst the best in the world with nuclear arsenals i bet there special forces would be pretty amazing too
I know SASR sometimes train with The Kopassus, however the general consensus from ADF members is neutral, meaning I've never heard our guys talking bad about them.
I worked with norwegian special forces. MJK and FSK. They talked alot of shit about american SEALS. That they were full of steroids, not able to ruck and did not handle the cold. They even aborted a diving excersise because of high waves. What is your empression of the norwegians?
@@ValhallaVFTthe truth hurts haha. God knows how many billions of dollars, straight out of taxpayer hands and into billionaire's pockets via MIC companies.
Just wondering how you can rate the Israeli special forces if you haven't worked with them? A tier 1 unit like the british SBS/SAS would unlikely be paired up with a tier 2 unit like the Green Berets for high level jobs. You mention a freefall operation with the SAS, no british SF units dropped into Iraq or Afghanistan in this recent war. Tier 1& 2 are vastly different mission objectives. It's not a dig at your list, however it is a mirror of the tasks and missions ( that you know doubt smashed ) your untit was assigned. the Green Berets are wizards man but the the objectives for Tier 1 and 2 are incomparable.
I suppose you know this already but to for anyone else, pnpsaf is a police unit. Closest equivalent would probably FBI HRT but not super specialized. Theyre military trained police. I would love for you to do one about PH rangers and SF. And LRR which is our delta, trained by the US. Takes recruits from SF and Rangers. Im sure some US SF wpuld have stories
I'm sorry to say but Saf is the best unit in the Philippines in terms of actual combat operations in mindanao..they hunt and kill HVT's all around mindanao
I had a business and we used to look after Japanese jornalists in AUstralia, we also had to clean their places when they left and I had this Japanese guy show me through and explain a few things to me, that was Hori. He said :" the kitchen is dirty if Japanese man live here by himself tu he will tell you it is clean, because it is woan's work and he wont recognise it is dirty" just an interesting insight. Also Hori was born in the US but ran their company in Australia, he drove an Ausralian Ford, he said to me one day, "I go home as soon as they tell me," I said.."so you will go back to America just like that?" he said "No,.,,Japan is my home" He had never been there in his live..one thing he did say that amused me more was that when he did " I will take my Australian Ford with me."
@@JoshuaFlashman-oc3wm in an airplane ? or train ? or boat ? plus revolver never fails, first shot first kill. so the tools chosen depends on critirea.
