you should have mentioned more history and lore behind "Nadziak" as it was so effective and deadly the kings banned it from civilian use, noble duels etc. Saber was designed in such way that it was easy to harm your opponent without killing him, however Nadziak was exactly the opposite, going through armour with ease, causing internal bleeding and most of time resulting in death
nadziaki nie były krótsze? to bardziej przypomina czekany, chociażby poprzez konstrukcje tak długiego i podównie wygiętgo szpikulca... nie wiem na czym oni się wzorowali ale to wygląda co najmniej jak hybryda czekana i nadziaka nie będąca imo typowym ani tym ani tym
@@kacpermyszkowski5375 To zależy o którym okresie mówimy. Czym bardziej później tym nadziak miał dłuższy szpikulec, żeby lepiej penetrować zbroje. Wczesne nadziaki były krótkie i grube. Wchodzi tutaj w grę też kwestia estetyczna. I skąd porównanie do czekana? Czekan to zasadniczo nadziak, z tą różnica, że jedno to broń obuchowa, a druga tnąca.
@@Hato1992 to co było bronią tnącą, co obuchową? Bo z mojej wiedzy obie bronie były broniami obuchowo-tnącymi, a dokładnie rzecz ujmując - obuchowo-siecznymi
@@arsalmadel9879 Chyba pancernych nie liczysz jako lekkiej kawalerii? Lekkiej jazdy pod Wiedniem miał tylko 2422 konie a artyleria składała się z 28 dział. Jaka to więc prawdziwa siła polskiej armii?
@@Brandfall609 with a hammer this is certainly true, since swift manouverability isn't as important with a hammer as it is with a sword. A hammer due to being forward heavy will never be as nimble as a sword, so you might as well add some heft to it, which also makes the impact force and crushing damage greater.
the reason many heavier weapons fail in this competition is that they are harder to use because of the weight. if you mitigate that unwieldiness with a good handle or good balance or both, then the weight itself is no longer a problem.
@@jpteknoman Yeah ... no. Thing is the heavier cons in this show really only is a cons for bladed weapons that are supposed to be somewhat nimble. For hammers like here and in previous episodes alongside axes "heavier" does not mean "worse". Top heavy weapons like axes, hammers and halberds actually gain lethal performance by being heavier instead of sharper while for bladed weapons it is the other way round. There are exceptions like for instance big Zweihänder or Claymore swords benefit from a somewhat heavy build while smaller hatchets benefit from lighter heads with sharper edges. But generally: If a weapon has an edge and is supposed to cut or pierce it benefits from a lighter build. If a weapon is designed to pierce/smash/bash armor it benefits from a heavier build.
what is that mail shirt? the spike on a warhammer is designed to pierce mail, which it does with ease here in the video. my issue is that they used a cheaply made butted mail shirt. that mail shirt would break if you hit it with a dull wall hanger katana that you bought at a flea market. a true test would be an iron or steel RIVETED mail shirt. easily one thousand times more durable, is impervious to slashing attacks and still highly resistant to thrusting attacks, though can still be broken with a thrust delivered with a finely tapered point. it would just be a lot harder. i dont discredit the smiths they both did good jobs, i just think that their work should of been tested against functional armor
I guess there is the point that the "keel" test is to test if the weapon is functional as weapon, so the armor is sorta just fluff. Maybe if the "smash and bash" or strength test was with a stronger, functional armor, it would've fit better?
The main issues with doing that though is that well made riveted mail is quite expensive and the amount of people that would notice its authenticity are low. I mean I agree with you, using riveted mail would be more accurate. But, considering that they hit the mail head on with spike; I feel that whether it was riveted or not the spike would have probably gone through anyway just with not as much penetration. Albeit they probably could have put some kind of textile fabric underneath as it makes it not only look better but would add to the accuracy.
@@TheRentown they could have only have a few small square pieces attached to fabric since they would only testing the spike for armor pen. That way it saves on costs but ups authenticity.
indeed. i have watched all seasons and i find out all heavier weapons can deliver their master's full strength on targets and stay true after attacking. i remember there was an episode about making a southeast asian sword. in the end, the heavier sword won because of cutting a bull's skull into two piece by one hit. the judge gave a very high comment on that sword and call it "a beast"
Few funfacts about usage of such weapons in Poland: - VERY popular weapon, due to its effectiveness, especially across townfolks, in army used in place of mace as symbols of high rank - there was passed a law that forbidden using nadziak by people, which do not serve in military. In effect 'new' was invented: Obuch (literally : blunt) which had bended fank, in effect making warhammer without piecing capabilities. please note, that there is difference between: Obuch (Blunt), which is warhammer and Obuszek (Lil' Blunt) which is small mace.
The most famous use of this weapon was in attempt to kill King Zygmunt III Waza by some nobleman Michał Piekarski. He had used this weapon in hope of its terrible effectiveness. Piekarski wounded King in the back, then cheek and shoulder, howewer was distracted from effective strike by Court Marshal Łukasz Opaliński and King's son, prince Władysław, who used his sabre and wounded the perpetrator in the head.
Can we appriciate how they tested the weapons upon some cheap amazon armor instead of like some hardend steel plate or something. I mean ffs the rings arent eve rivited like you can use a pastic toy sword to rip it apart.
In Poland we call that kind of weapon "nadziak". Was a very popular in formation Winged Husssars. Also in cyvil the noblemans use "nadziak" as side weapon and ... simultaneusly as walking stick. That was a very deadly weapon, one hit can kill. The duels that were popular at that time often ended in death. Therefore in the 17th century, the use of these weapons by civilians has been prohibited. It was very popular and liked so no one got rid of this weapon, just blacksmiths reworked the weapon by bend the blade. A blunt weapon was allowed. People changed its name to "obuszek". In Poland still we can buy both versions on historical picnics or some military shops.
That’s the crappiest chain mail (if you could even call it that) I’ve ever seen. Not anywhere near what would actually be worn. Try that with fully riveted mail and see the difference.
Wouldn't be such large rents in it, I imagine, however it still wouldn't stop the spike piercing it, and of course it is no protection against the concussive force of the hammerhead.
@@FlinnGaidin mail was never designed or intended to stop thrusts or blunt force trauma. It is meant to stop slashes. It’s better than nothing for stabs, but just barely. And it certainly does nothing when your enemy has a mace. But for gods sake, use real mail at least.
Yep, Polish warhammer also called Hussar hammer or nadziak. It would be the main weapon of the Polish Windeg Hussars used in almost every situation other than charge.
They both did a great job. Obviously Josh’s hammer was superior with its comfort and durability. But I’d love to see what Mike would bring back if he could use what he learned
The best thing about this hammer is that it doesn't look like anything dangerous at all... but damage it deals is very strong. I`m a woman and I love your program :) Hello from Poland
Agreed. I know real chain mail is expensive, but what they have on the dummy is costume grade. It doesn't matter much with bludgeon weapons, but still.
Dainty little chains. Butted together instead of being riveted together. Wouldn't be surprised if it was just aluminum rather than steel. Yeah, complete trash.
I believe this thing was called "klevets". This is not exclusively a Polish weapon as it was used by many, if not all Slavic nations up until late 18th century.
This is one of the few times that the significantly heavier weapon came away with the win, and rightly so. Hey, it's a hammer and it's supposed to have some heft to it.
I feel like none of these guys would really compare to a blacksmith from this age anyway. It's like comparing a special forces soldier with a reservist. The reservist just doesn't have the experience and know how like the professional does.
That's understandable. None paints like Leonardo Da Vinci, cause we have cameras. The talents and energy of people are directed toward another fields. Though I like them trying.
They have new equipment and tools but lack the skill of a blacksmith living back then being paid his whole life to make swords and warhammers like these. The amout of experience&skills they had with tools avaliable back then to create stuff like this... crazy.
This is Nadziak, weapon of Polish Hussars after charge when the long hussar spear was destroyed they kill enemies by single strike, this is disposable weapon!
@@MAGNATEO the concept of Central is not just a geographical but also an economic, political, historical and cultural one the Crown was more in Central while the Grand Duchy was more in Eastern, since Grand Duchy had more lands then you are basically right on them all being more Eastern - but that's when we consider whole Commonwealth together
once I saw how thin the red-shirt bladesmith made the weapon, I knew something is wrong with it it's a balanced smashing weapon made for bashing and impaling things, not cutting, it needs some weight in the swing the blue-shirt rightfully deserves the win, all the more for additional work on the handle
Blue-shirt also made the striking surface of the hammer not flat, but a blunt pyramid, concentrating the blow. While red-shirt's flat square had untapered reverse side preventing smooth extraction from the bag.
Maybe because it's more expensive? Yeah it's better to test the hammer with riveted mail but still, this weapon is designed to defeat mail so it might not differ that much from reality.
@@muhamadsayyidabidin3906 i can tell you, that the regular hammerhead would never have penetratet the mail like that, if it would have bin riveted. Plus the ravenbeak would have penetrated it, no question.. But it would never explode into pieces.
Central Europe 3) Location: Central Europe. Poland borders Germany, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania and Russia (the Kaliningrad exclave). Its northern border (440 km long) runs along the Baltic Sea coast.
Fun fact, those were really popular with polish nobility, as well as criminals. At some point in history, it was illegal to carry them in public because it was so deadly.
It's a pity that the guys don't rummage around on the net. Following the example of a show weapon, instead of being inventive, is not a good testimony to blacksmiths
