who do you think is better? sampo + kafka or serval + kafka? cause I invested a lot on both and I dont want to let go of sampo but I also like pulling kafka
@@jadenichols1873 Tbh its a bit up in the air and is quite dependent on the way you build kafka. There are two main paths you either build Kafka to try and Ult every two enemy turns which is gonna require stuff like the new free lightcone next patch and probably a decent amount of speed or you just ditch that and build her normally and pair her with Serval. The biggest thing Serval does is make Kafka's DoTs proc forever (including break DoT's) meaning Kafka doesnt have to worry about ult spamming. Ideally though you would use both as they can both work in skill point neutral setups and then some sort of giga healer to keep everyone alive.
Serval should’ve joined the astal express she would be such a good fit for the crew. But gameplay wise I think serval is gonna age really well when we get more nihility and harmony characters especially that can help her DOT(cough kafka)
A fun thing to note about serval is that she can stack lightning debuff indefinately so long as you ult every 2 turns. This is due to her ult extending lightning debuffs, including the ones provided by break effects. The only issue is Serval does so much damage that by the time you get the third stack the enemy is already dead.
@@baltstop2702 With how much Serval refunds energy +Tingyun its possible but you need multiple enemies in order to do it successfully. I was able to do it during the Svarog boss fight in simulated universe but I had a bunch of effects that ensured I could recharge. Hope we get more energy recharge based supports in future tho.
@@baltstop2702 with a 3 unit scenario, like a Gepard fight and E2, you gain 42 energy per skill and 32 energy per basic attack. Serval Ult: 100 energy cost Energy Gain Basic: 20 Skill: 30 E2 Proc: 4*units shocked. With ERR stats, or if you get hit or kill something, you get enough to ult again. She's a skill neutral, sometimes positive character, which works well with another DPS/Sub DPS or Nihility. PS: if the units go up to 5, hitting shocked units with skill will grant 50 energy and basics will grant 40. Her E2 is effectively the best 4* eidolon in the game. Also, she works well with Sampo and Kafka. Side note, Break Effect Rope works really well on her, since her numbers aren't very high, but she gains a lot from DoT effects.
I love Serval. Her story quest was so good. The feels man. I've got Serval level 50. Planning to build her and Sampo and use Nihility Path in SU. Look forward to see the carnage. Thanks for the video!
Also there is pre TC going on. They have just start discussing Serval break effect DoT since the damage is quite good along with her capability to extend that duration.
@@nyx4074 yeah but remember when everyone said Gepard was the worst 5*? Don't trust theory crafting until things have been available Break power Serval is also making a lot of sacrifices and assumptions, so while it may be good, don't get hopes up yet
I built Serval prior to getting Jing Yuan and don't regret it. I can run both power houses on the same team or split them up onto separate turns for MoC. Well worth the investment on both of them
imagine 3 lightning 1 quantum team with serval jingyuan tinyun (with dmg bonus lc) and silverwolf. serval and tingyun dont need much skillpoints, complimenting jy and sw. Seems like a really fun brute force comp. maybe even sub jy for kafka in the future
@@grizzlyadams1929 If you have Bailu, you can replace Tingyun with her. Unless you run into some boss in future patches that can deal crazy high damage in a short amount of time, Bailu can serve as a pseudo-preservation character. Also, Silverwolf can fulfill Tingyun's role with different pros and cons. I might actually try this out.
I didnt build my Serval Past 50 but during the time I was using her I already noticed her kit was very good when matched with more skill point hungry characters like Qingque and Seele. You get consistent AOE damage while only using your skill every 2-3 turns (if you have some way of giving her more actions before the DoT runs out you can extend this even further). If you have make the World Clamor at S5 it's stupid funny on Serval since her Trace that gives 15 energy means Serval will have her Ult up every combat with a bonus 64% damage, it's 47 energy restored at the start of combat. Serval Ult spam is stupid funny. My Make the World Clamor is only S4 at the moment and I'm already having stupid fun with it.
This. Her trace, E2 and E4 have huge synergy with her light cone and spamming her ultimate helps proc her talent outside regular turn cycle. Obviously not broken but just a solid unit.
She is really good. I had a maxed lightning set on her. She hits hard, and her dots really do damage. I replaced her with Jing Yuan, but I think she is better in some situations. Her skill point usage makes her more forgiving and easier to use with different teams. Jing Yuan feels like he really needs astra.
You can run Serval on a double dps team and she will happily feed your Yanqing / Dan etc skill points while still doing decent damage and providing AoE. I have Jing Yuan and he feels absolutely terrible in double dps. Only way to play him is with Tingyun or Tingyun + Asta/Bronya. I'm committed to this meme comp at this point so I'll be rolling on Silverwolf banner to try and E6 my Asta, but it's honestly a clownshow at this point.
@@jinliangfoo8546100% agree. For Jing Yuan you REALLY need all the stats to align to let him really be proper good where as serval just seems like someone u can slap on any team. I really hate these kinds of units like Jing Yuan
@@The_Lightless ... That´s because Jing Yuan is a Hypercarry Dps like Seele. You want to use both in their respective Hypercarry teams or else you´re wasting damage potential.
@@LshowKnows That’s true to an extent but Seele will be fine without any supports like bronya or ting yun. Jung Yuan really struggled without Ting Yuan because his energy cost is stupid high and he does no damage and is very slow.
@@The_Lightless He does no damage? Nah you´re capping wayyy to hard right now. You wan´t Tingyuan with him because she was designed for him, not only does she fix the small energy problem (cause it´s not as bad as you´re pretending it to be), she also buffs lightning damage while gaining skill points. This is a team based game, you can´t run Seele in MoC without any supports either, her kit is hungry for skill points and would make no sense to ruin her damage potential by stripping her of supports.
Serval best waifu She is a pretty good budget option even at e0 for a lighting dps. She gets better with eidolons alot and is relatively easy to build too. Once kafka comes out she will get even better. Overall a pretty solid unit.
I love these vids. im somewhat new to gatcha style games but ive been having alot of fun with star rail. i was worried at first since i thought you needed certain chars if you wanted to be strong but your videos have helped show me that thats not quite right, every charecter seems like they are perfectly capable of clearing content.
at first i was just building her because shes my favorite out of all the 4 stars design wise, little did i know she basically carried my account along with selee, and with my sampo built, simulated universe got really easy with serval/sampo combo using the nihility path lmao the only SU i have a hard time with is geppies since he has that annoying shield thingy
@@DestaLosta i have her, my team for gepard is fire MC, sushang, natasha, and serval, i dont have the best artifacts for all of them, so SU 4 gepard is borderline impossible lmao, tho i have got him to 1/4 health 3rd phase so theres that, and hes the only SU boss i havent beaten
@@theysaidimasian9766I only use 4 star relics and it was a walk in the park for me. I used abundance with Bailu Sushang and March 7th. Sushang is all you need and if you just focus on keeping her alive then you can even put it in auto and let it afk win the battle for you. Not the fastest way but easiest and most brain dead.
@@The_Lightless i finally beat him last night, still used same team but i used the destruction path instead, it was tense since that path basically requires you to be at half or lower health at all times lmao
everytime @okcode made a guide, he made all character become S tier list hahahahaha, thankyou i was gonna raise serval as my lightning dps, and this guide come on the right time
you're massively underrating Serval's e6 I think, 30% more damage to shocked enemies is big when Serval's gonna be keeping every enemy she fights shocked anyway, so that's a really consistent free 30% extra damage which is big
I like Make the World Clamor because Serval is usually my sub DPS next to Seele or Clara, so she’s not going to get the buff for defeating enemies from the Breakfast cone. So more chances to Ultimate + Ult damage is good enough for me if you’re building her as a sub/shield breaker ps: also you get a free copy to superimpose it from the website event so that’s kind of nice
i always compare serval to fischl because she applies continuous damage and also gives free skill points (energy for genshin) because she doesnt need to skill every turn.
Serval is the reason i was confident skipping Jing Yuan entirely. Is Jing better than Serval? Yes, obviously hes a 5 star, if he was worse than the free unit there would be an issue no? But hes no so far above Serval that those without him will struggle to clear content which is whats good for the game as a whole. Jing Yuan has more damage, but in exchange theres more hoops you need to jump through to get said damage. Serval is consistent across the board but doesn't hit that highs that Jing can obviously.
Yes, that's the same reason why I only rolled for his lightcone instead.. Serval is a straightforward rock & roll YOLO char, she's also way more affordable to build since she's only 4★, of course all 4★s come with a caveat that they have less output from those 5★, but I'm just an F2P..😂
@@thegamewoods8473 ehhh, she can be bought. she was even on his banner. and bronya exists. asta might not work that well, but she exists. hell, even silverwolf is good. i have jy and i have run him with multiple characters. not to mention, er rope exists.
I already got her at E4 so I can confirm that she rocks. I use The Seriousness of Breakfast and even though I don't have her fully relic'd out and she still puts out decent damage every turn.
I build both Jing Yuan and Serval because I like them both. Serval has been my main for a while, even after getting Jing Yuan. I going to max her out anyway.
At trail brazer level 52 I'm building her I started with MC fire, bailu bronya, seele, changed bailu for Natasha C6 Then completely replaced the team with serval shampoo bailu pela This second team is funnier to play imo, and clears the simple content faster
Me: Ok, let's see my man OkCode cook to convince me to build Serval past lv 50 since I got the lightning general 0:37 "does less damage by 30 to 40 percent" Me: ........ *BRUH* I got enough lightning damage dealers, and I'm not a Kafka simp so I will be looking into blade to fill out my lack of wind aoe (just got sampo but to try and build him up while having 6 level 60-70 units that needs attention isn't viable right now)
I would love to use more of the 4*s, but I have so few Eidolons for them, terrible light cones, and I can't even clear basic Forgotten Hall atm with my already leveled characters. I wish I had Bailu so I didn't have to pray that Gepard is enough.
This is the reality for MOST HSR players... do NOT get discourage when seing big numbers of 4-star characters or the "simping" in the comments. Most are whales or spenders who can afford leveling +10 chars, Crit Rate +60% and relics to lvl 12-15....and Obviously E6 (lol). That's NOT reallity for most. You (and I) will get there!
Dude, you said that Serval dmg comes from her talant, and that skill ult should lvled last + fjr the said reason her LC is worse then the Brekfast.. and then in a demo all you did is pressing Skill + Ult. I'm getting mixed signals here XD
It would be useful in the future if you would compare the dps of 2 similar units over a set amount of skill points. Like you said jing has more dps but is also much more skill point hungry. 2 comparisons would be useful. Like one with only 2 skill points and one with 5 skills points. The 2 would be for cases where you already have a different main dps while the 5 is for main dpses.
I might need to build her. I didnt go for Jing and Himeko honestly isnt holding up even in AoE unless the whole field of enemies is weak to fire. I like Serval's character so might as well build her heh.
I don't know why most of the community is so angry at jing yuan. I can guess... Maybe you need stress relief to save for kafka, but please...I am having the best game experience in my life with jing yuan (everything just explodes when the lighting lord descends). I had an account with seele and serval lvl 60, and still abbandoned it for a jing yuan. Why You want at all cost make jing yuan users feeling bad? I don't get it...just move on, enjoy your seele and kafka's dreams and leave jing yuan alone lol. I like to imagine jing yuan yawning seeing all this hate to himself, and then play a game of chess like nothing new.
Some people literally take personal offense in others enjoying male characters and not their waifus. Yes, it is as ridiculous as it sounds. Yes, they’re real. The hate from Keqing simps when Alhaitham released was something else, also “why would you use Xingqiu if mommy Yelan exists” and yadda yadda. As weird as it sounds, some guys really can’t fathom the concept of enjoying a character that isn’t a waifu
@@theProClaimer People expected him, an Erudition DPS, to deal as much damage with as little effort like Seele, who is a Hunt DPS People just don't know that things just can't be directly compared at all
@@Xendrick dude that’s not it. People aren’t expecting him to beat or match Seele in single target. The problem is that Seele beats him in AOE also and with less investment. It’s not that Jing Yuan is weak, but they made Seele too broken…
@@TacticalDimples Truly one way to open up a gacha The first limited character is absolutely broken that breaks the whole point of the game with turn scamming, I love it
people are comparing her to Jing Yuan but she is good in different team comps. Jing Yuan you want to play like a hyper carry but with Serval she does not need to be the main dps. She can just clear enemy ads and then be skill point efficient by attacking every other turn and just extending the DoT effect. You can have your Hunt or Destruction character do the main damage after ads are cleared. This does make her team comps be more expensive though as hyper carry comps are easier to build right now.
I really loved using Serval for clearing content (her guitar animation is so cool to me) until I accidentally got Jing Yuan on my first roll. Now I feel compelled to use Jing Yuan instead.
I'm lucky enough to have serval c6 after purchasing one from the store and getting lucky on the banner. Based on the calcs, she actually out dpss a c0 Jing yuan.
i got a 5 star erudtion light cone, and i started to build her in a team. she's surprisingly better than my asta, tried it out with the same investment, and she gets better results
The guy Mtashed based himself not to pull for Jing actually came back to say that he made some mistakes calculating Jing's dmg and he actually does around 77% more damage than Serval, and that's only at 6 stacks
Of course, he would do way more dmg as a 5 star. However, he is very skill point hungry. On the other hand, Serval is f2p and doesn't consume many skill points. Most people have E0 Jing Yuan, and compared to E2 Serval, the dmg gap may be smaller
@@thangd.2115 E0 Jing still beats serval's dmg by a lot, as long as he's built right. And let's be honest, all DPS are skill hungry, you're never using basic attack with your dps
@Tony_Jr some dmg dealers are not skill hungry like Serval here and Arlan, probably E6 Qingque. I'd love in the future if we have a dmg dealer that his/her skill is self buff for a few turns and just spam basic attacks.
@@thangd.2115 Yeah but those are not really DPS characters, more like a support DPS, but Seele and Jing and Yanjing will always need skill points. But I believe Blade will have that kit you just spoke about, use his skill and then that changes his basic attack into aoe for a few turns I believe
Serval's pretty good. But if you accidentally pulled a Jing Yuan trying to get a four star on the banner, I mean, don't NOT build him. He's pretty dope
Why people are not building Serval is Mainly bacause lack of resources... I didn't build Serval because I "built" E2 Hook instead. I'm kind of regretting it... though I don't know if my E1 Serval would do much difference. Getting Chars to Crt +60% AND E6 is a distant dream for low spenders and Veeeeeeeery distant dream for F2P. ;-)
i needed to build serval for shieldbreak because kafka is on 1.2 gotta say serval does the job alright edit: wheres my speedboots and crit dmg body Madge
This is what I really wish they would give us a DPS chart you can see at the end of a battle or something. Playing DOT teams but actually have no idea if they are doing comparable damage over a fight is kinda annoying. They should really put that in when Kafka comes out. it just make sense.
How would that even work? Who do the DoT do to? If Kafka activates someone's DoT, is it credited to her or them? What about the massive damage amp Silverwolf or Pela can give?
@@randomcatname7792ittle bit late, but it could be grouped under a separate thing just labeled 'DOT'. From what they said, they don't really need to know who's contributing the most DOT to the team, only that it's doing comparable DMG to single-target teams. Would be a bit weird, but still better than no indication whatsoever other than DMG calcs. No idea what to do about defence shred, though.
Why can’t you count how many times DoT triggered and just do some simple multiplication? Use a screen recorder if you struggle doing it in real time. That’s what many guide makers do already
my serval, combined with sampo (i bring him bc he's my husbando) can do greater dmg than a support jing yuan 10 lvl above her. def didn't regret building the best girl
