Forget Seiko Speedtimer! Get this for $200 less! 

Yes, because we all want that lovely 24-hr sub dial. Spoils so many watches for me.

As I get older and my eyesight gets worse, I tilt towards larger cases, especially with complications on the face. Unlike many who claim a given watch is a cheaper alternative to a more expensive counterpart, this Orient really is a better alternative to the Seiko in my opinion. I own both Seiko and Orient, and I will take Orient finishing and quality control over any Seiko 5.

Thank You Mark. Another easy to understand and honest video. You are a great resource.

I don’t know.. me personally, I find the Seiko better looking 🤷🏼‍♂️

The Seiko is an instant classic - wearing it now!

beautiful orients! bracelet upgrades is a must and will buy in a heartbeat

Great review! Have been scoping out the Orient for a while.

Just picked this one up a couple of weeks ago! Absolutely love it.

I love these! Thanks Mark!

I have this watch. It wears so well. Really like it. Currently have it on a white tropic for the summer. Really sharp that way!

Great review! Do like the orient but I would hope for a tachymeter bezel. Thanks again!

the seiko looks sharp.. love it

Both Orient and Seiko are amazing value (well Seiko used to be at least) but only Orient makes you feel guilty for buying the watch because it makes you feel like you ripped them off.

Picked this up a couple of days ago, with a black, and a white rubber strap to go with. Excited for it to come in. My first panda.

The Orient has more lume, a signed crown and better finishing on the sub dial circular edges rather than the Seiko punch holes. I was offered a deal on the Seiko, which I'm considering as I thought it was better sized for me, but now I've seen them side by side here... Thanks Marc, most useful.

I used some cashback and got the Panda for a steal. I put it on a black and while rally strap and I can't stop staring at and admiring it's classic look. I also like the timing bezel, I actually use for my job.

I bought the Seiko 40mm with the red chrono hand. It's classic and complete and the bracelet is well OK

I ❤️ my Orient Solar Chronograph (Panda). It reminds me of my ‘90s Seiko Sports Chronograph. I have it on a rally strap and it’s become my daily.

This is my 1st Orient, and the watch is beautiful. Other than the date wheel being recessed so far that it makes it hard to read I find it a very good looking watch. I put a white strap with black edges and a black buckle on it and it looks GREAT! Especially for the money. 👍😁👍

Have you seen the newest release? The SSC947 is stunning …. and a Pogue homage 😍

I understand why people balk at an ~42.5mm watch, but at 48mm lug-to-lug, it is quite wearable. My own wrist is ~6.5 inches, and these dimensions fit me just fine. A point for consideration: I think a sports watch should be larger. A bigger watch is easier to read at a glance, which is a bonus if you're in the middle of something that demands more of your attention than normal.

I have the Seiko Japan only model SBPY165 and love it. I feel it's the best of these 2 watches, combined.

Marc, thanks for the video. I am so curious to see the movement architecture and compare it to the Seiko V175 and V192 movements. Also, have you heard of the reimagined Pogue that Saiko is coming out with in August? The SSC947 Special Edition.

It's a good looking watch, solid piece at a great price. LI almost placed an order for it. However, that 24 hour dial is just pointless to me. I'm not in the submarine service, I can easily tell if it's basically day or night without my watch. I'm sure there are those who can put this to use, but it's not me. In fact I dropped off a watch return today because it had a 24 hour dial that I didn't noticed while shopping (my bad). Oh, and the huge font for the 12 is unappealing as well. Great review as always, though.

I lucked out and got a used ssc813 for nearly half off the retail price. The orient looks like a great alternative.

I wear mine on a black sailcloth strap, love the way it fits. Marc, Please, Please make a stainless bracelet for this 😁

I own a vaguely-similar Seiko: Having the dive-style bezel is actually quite useful -- for timing something at lower precision whilst you're timing with the chrono ... *or* for doing a countdown timer.

That 1521 is 🔥!

Phenomenal value.

I was up in the air between the orient and the tach frog. Pulled the trigger on the TF . Size and sapphire were the closers.

I really like the pepsi one and I was very close to ordering it from your site. I just can not justify spending the money on it right now lol. Too many car repairs in the near future 😅 I already have a Seiko Prospex Monster Antarctica Penguin "Save The Ocean" that I don't wear enough. I have a Seiko Presage and a Bulova 21 Jewel that I wear more often though

Black one looks sharp

I almost bought the Orient over Seitona. But in the end, the Orient was a little large for my dainty, feminine wrists. The Seitona was more expensive, but had the right sized dial.

2:59 Black! Winner.

I have also replaced the stock bracelet with Lorus stainless steel jubilee one. My Orient looks more refined with it

Oooooo nice very nice I'm surprised seiko has allowed them to do this as they are the parent company. Although I could be mistaken

I bought the seiko Speedtimer. Classic look and better dimensions

That blue is tempting. It would match my orient USA 2.

Check out the Citizen CA4610-85A as well. Similar price range but in Eco drive and Titanium!

What is the Long Island price. Been looking at this watch for a year now. I have the large orient triton with the power meter in blue. It is one of my favorite watches. I like the Urban Gentry, and your channel. TY,

Been trying to find solid end link jubilee bracelet that fit nicely for this one. No luck so far.

Marc, do you have a bracelet planned for the Speedtimers? Something with an on-the-fly adjustable clasp would be a differentiator against the few others making them out there. Thanks!

Wow! I just bought the white from Amazon Japan. I would have bought from you. I did buy a white curved end rubber bracelet, and I am one who asked you about a 22mm SS bracelet by email. I am interested. Ty. Also, bought a similar Tactical Frog that looks similar. The TF has a solar Seiko chrono. Both very accurate. Very important for me. I like to T Frog bracelet ok. No prob. Thanks! Lume much better on the Orient than T frog. Orient markers slightly blue, which is ok for me. Orient pushers more tactical than my copy of T frog.

This piece is sharp. Good on Orient for ditching the tachymeter, hope that design choice continues to spread. Why are 24hr indicators still a thing? Is it difficult to convert them to elapsed hour dials? Can we just have more two subdial varieties? Asking rhetorically, but man these things just won't phase out.

It's a nice watch, but these things are highly subjective, and the white Speed Timer just looks better to me, I think mainly due to the bezel design, the slightly domed crystal and the better bracelet. That said, when I got mine I went with the JDM SKU given it was much cheaper than I could get the international one locally. As for Orient, they do make great watches overall -- My Kamasu is still one of my favourite daily drivers.

will the Coin Edge Bezel for Orient Ray and Mako Generation 2 #B04-P work on this watch. also thanks Mark and if you make bracelets for them i'm all in

If you release a bracelet, don't forget the bezel, i would love to put a ceramic one on mine

I've been waiting for LIW to start carrying this watch!

Really nice watch. But why, oh why do these major watch companies cheap out on the bracelet and clasp? You can get a Chinese watch (and an Islander, for that matter) for less with sapphire, solid links, solid end links, milled clasp and, now, on the fly micro adjustable clasps. It makes no sense.

What is that green and red thing on the shelf behind you?

Thanks for sharing as always my friend Be well and Wheels Up 👍

😮Hey Marc could you tell me what's the difference between the RA model and the RN model I'm guessing it's just where it's sold in the world

THE ORIENT IS A BEAUTIFUL WATCH BUT I RATHER THE SEIKO

Been trying to find will to pull the trigger on an Orient for years...maybe this year?

Are the Chronograph the only ones that are solar for Orient? Didn’t know, thanks.

Marc, Please consider making end links for your Islander bracelets that work for rubber strap Mako/Ray models.

I have the same white panda. But my chrono hand stops moving and resets after 1 hr.

I prefer a simple fold over clasp with a row of holes to any high end milled clasp with a grand total of two micro adjust holes. That disqualifies the Seiko imo.

Dear Mark, do you guys ship to Saudi Arabia? Thank you my friend

The Seiko is great and I like it a bit better, but it's just too small on my wrist. Wrist 7.5 inch ... and the Orient looks much better.

Or if you don't mind putting in a battery I bought a Seiko brand meca quartz chronograph watch for under 200.00 USD. The leather strap it came with is not very good to keep in mind.

Forget both. Just get a Seiko Spirit SBTR027

The reason the speedtimer is good is the dimensions.

Yeah I'll take the Seiko, mainly because it's obvious that it's what the Orient is trying to be

Orient delivers valuuuue.

I am not a fan of chrono, but I purchased a couple of glycine chrono quartz several years ago for

I have this model. Got it last year and I have to say it was my best purchase of 2023. The quality you get for the price is fantastic.

What a terrific watch. Like everyone is saying, I wish it was smaller. Although judging from how it fits on your wrist, I could probably pull it off. Thanks for showing us the watch!

If only the Orient had a tachy bezel !!!!

can't wait for Orient's answer to Seiko's GMTs.

My Neo 70 Panda Orient is better looking and cost me way less a few years back, crystal can be changed if needed and I don't dive with it so I don't mind to much about the water resist difference, design is going down but price up, kinda sad.

For me the Seiko looks leagues ahead sorry!

Can you get me the green one?

A diver watch bezel on a Chronograph, good choice. I've never used the tachymeter scale

Gah! It looks so good but that 24-hr subdial makes this a hard no. Otherwise I'd be putting my order in today. Why do they keep making those? 24-hour subdials are so worthless.

Don't like dents in bezels.

Speed timer is better looking and better measurements.

Once seen cannot be unseen: The date is off-centre betw 4 and 5 ... Whyyyyyy!?

Im a big fan of Orient, but Im not feeling this one 😕

anything beats seiko

Yeah, as a few people have said this model is really big and the lug to lug is out of control. I would love it if it were 39.

why are those virtually useless 24-hour complications there? were they originally made for those working in submarines or those who live down dark caves?

Nice watch. At 43mm it is too big for me. The solar concept is great, though. Throw it in the wash and dry it on high (shrink it) and I'm on board!

Would be an instant buy if it were 39 mm

Speed timer is many times vetter looking

43mm?! Did I wake up in 2005?

Glad Orient is still making watches for large wrists. With the US human population becoming thinner every generation, I can see the trend of smaller and smaller watches. Soon we will be back to the 1930’s with everyone wearing 33mm watches.

Orient wins again!

After one hour of chronograph, it doesn't continue to go around, it stops.

The Orient looks strange.

Just chiming in with what everyone else seems to say....really nice but just too big!😞

I just wished they stopped making these 24-hour sub-dials, or at least made them graphical moon-and-sun indicators. They're so useless.

Did you lose weight?

...and not as well made as the Seiko. 😂

Do yourself a favor spend the extra and buy a speedtimer. If you buy the orient you will regret you didn't spend the extra.

Orient has some nice designs but they just make them too big wish they would make more divers under 40mm 🤦🏽‍♂️

having a dive bezel instead of tachymeter is an odd choice to make on a chronograph.

I can't the ugly orient logo

why they make quartz watch so huge? 42.8mm? lolz :( poor my 15cm wrist

Orient is Meh. Seiko still looks better, I'd rather pay an extra 200 bucks