Not just charlie. Everyone that calls themselves a Halo fan is beyond disappointed and frustrated. I am thankful to still own the original video games and I will still stick with them. I won't pay a cent to paramount plus and I refuse to watch the show, especially knowing full on before release that they didn't even bother looking at the source material.
The fact that they made the Halo show and admitted "We didn't go off the games or the books" just means that the name Halo shouldn't even be attached to it.
Giving an IP to egotistical people with no respect or knowledge for the original source material results in bad shit like every fucking time. I don't get why it keeps happening.
I feel like Arcane is one of the best examples of a game turned into a show/movie. It still kept its source material but added on more and more, making its own fully fleshed out world.
Arcane is an animation show tho, it's not a live action movie. There is a massive difference between both, Halo also had an adaptation of Fall Of Reach book as a animated show, and it's pretty good
@@claire6650 Halo has also had a live action movie, _Forward Unto Dawn._ While obviously lower budget than the Paramount show, it was still well written and captured the feel of Halo. Being live action has nothing to do with shitty writing decisions.
@@Pariux true, but for some reason animated adaptations do tend to be much better than the live action ones. Maybe because the animators normally care about the source material
This isn't even fanfic, because to write fanfic, you have to be a fan, and the people who made the show are proud of the fact that they've never played the games or read the books
Sad thing is, they claim to have read some of the books. Even then, they are just supplemental material to the games so having read a couple random books from the series serves almost no purpose. I think the only reason they even mention this is to look more high brow and intellectual by going "of course we READ because that is INTELLIGENT, but playing some stupid VIDEO GAMES is not".
The fucked up thing is that the show is full of little details and references to deep lore and real life stuff related to the games, so the minor writters or directors of the show actually know pretty damn well the franchise. Then WHY TF THE MAIN WRITTERS ARE WORST THAN A WATTPAD FANFIC?
I could live with the fact that master chief is emo on the show if they had an abundance of fight scenes. I hope I’m not the only one that mostly just looked forward to seeing him kicking ass. Instead, all we get is just literally his ass.
I am one of these people lol, one of my favorite shows this year. Everyone wants action and fighting scenes but I think the drama makes for a way better story
Just using the name for a generic story that doesn't justify its own existence, made by people who don't even like the original story. That's so true, it hurts.
half of the video game movies suck. i dare not even call this a video game movie because they clearly done give two shits about the games. sonic does it so well. this and the doom movies just...flop horribly.
Seriously, it makes me sad, because it makes fans not have hope in the show, but Arcane, Sonic, and I guess The Witcher, these are game based shows and movies that had been successfully mended into... something else that opens everyone's eyes to the franchise or Name.
Spartan "SXE" was greatly debated and settled in 2010. That's right; 12 YEARS AGO. Spartans still have their dangly bits; _However_ the extreme augmentation left them with 0 sex drive; along with absence of many other emotions due to hormonal and a slew of other chemical alterations. It's believed Male spartan 2's would have incredible difficulty to even get a half chub while a full salute was simply impossible. Out of the 150 Children candidates (75 of which were abducted) for the spartan 2 project; only 33 Survived; 12 were irreversibly crippled the rest died during the procedure; it was a multi procedure process that quite literally changed children into _machines_ .
The procedure didn't turn them into 'machines' Project Aster just improved their physiology. The cause of their psychological profile was their training. Spartans have difficulty interacting with non spartans, because of a lack of social skills.
@@tylerbarse2866 I did say it was a "multiple procedure process"; but procedure is more frequently associated with 'medical' ones; so that's my fault. I do recall one spartan who was trapped in a Dyson sphere for years(?) After being a survivor(?) and becoming mute; due to the mental trauma and lack of using her vocal chords.
I am absolutely baffled at how Halo has a definitive bad guy, yet the show still uses the “human nature is the real bad guy” trope, because when fighting an almost unending legion of alien species, internal politics are the real issue. (God I hope they don’t even try the Flood.)
yeah knowing that its true that the UNSC and ONI did pretty insane stuff but it was for survival being label as just cartoonish evil is really stupid and show not only the lack of care about halo but there poor writing skill at this points its a the same level as the last two season of GOT
@@aoki6332 - for survival? You know the spartans were built to fight other humans who didn't want to bend the knee to the UNSC right? They only became mankind's greatest weapon because the covenant came into the picture.
I'm glad they blew off Peter Jackson, this show is so much better than anything he could have done. It's not like he already adapted a beloved property and won the most oscars in history for it.
@@stephengrigg5988 you say that, but it was really just the Lord of the Rings that people liked, The Hobbit and Mortal Engines we're both pretty poorly recieved. But, even with those in mind, he probably would have done much better than the current show runners, at least he TRIES to remain truthful to the source material.
Company: "We bought the rights to this really hugely popular IP and are making a show/movie!" Everyone: "Oh that's awesome I've been a fan of that IP for a long time. I'm sure the fans would love to see an adaptation." Company: "Fuck the fans. This isn't for you. We don't need you." Everyone: "...K..."
My haters throw rocks at me and IT hurts. I hope they don't throw The Rock at me because I like him as an actor. GAGAGAGAGA!!! I am funny!!! I am the funniest RU-vidr EVAH! Please agree, dear na
His kills the whole character of chief because his internal conflict is if he's more machine than man physically and mentally. He's all about showing no emotion and only caring about the next mission because that's why he was made.
Whoa, Charlie's acting skills just poured out of that performance as Master Chief. He was able to perfectly encapsulate the pain and struggle Master Chief is feeling at the loss of his memory and by extension his humanity. Charlie is able to capture all of that hurt in such a short demonstration because he is able to draw on his own experiences to breathe life into what could have been a shallow performance. He is truly the greatest acting talent of our generation.
My fears came true, this show went from mediocre at worst to absolute garbage within a few episodes... I WAS warming up to it, now I'm just torturing myself by watching it.
@@MinorityRespecter88 by warming up, I mean I was hating it much less by episode 5, because I managed to block and report the lore side of me so I could brainlessly enjoy the action. But then all hell broke loose after that. I'm glad I'm good friends with Davey Jones. Paramount don't deserve a cent for what they're doing.
@@navb0tactual I guess that makes sense but how could you mindlessly enjoy the action if there's only 5 minutes of it and only in two episodes of the entire series? lol
Hearing that Master Chief claps cheeks made me physically grimace. Like isn’t the point that even though Master Chief is a hero to humanity that he is unable to have real relationships with others due to his upbringing as a child soldier? Isn’t that what makes his relationship with Cortana that much more important is that his only real relationship is with an AI and not a human? Like he isn’t supposed to be intimate with people that goes against everything that makes him tragic.
Cortana to Chief: "Before this is over, promise me that you'll figure out which one of us is the machine." People might not like Halo 4, but it gave Chief and Cortana some great development that was unfortunately squandered in Halo 5.
@@YormanGina i’m being 100% honest with the fact that Halo 4 literally made me cry despite what Bungie elitists will say, the development between Chief and Cortana in Halo 4 was some of the best storytelling in the entire series
The fact that the assault rifle is cgi and that they didnt even bother painting the plasma pistol is just baffling. No fucking way its 10mil per episode
Fun fact: Reth, the crazy dude on the Rubble who gave the stupid halo reveal, is actually based off a character from the extended universe, except he’s supposed to be a jackal
As a lifelong Sonic fan, I find it so bizarre that the Sonic movie, of all things, has become a go-to example of video game adaptations done right, but here we are. I just got so used to people shitting on the franchise while I sit in a corner quietly mumbling, "C'mon guys it's not that bad."
"I'm getting really deep into spoilers but I'm doing you a favor, I wouldn't recommend watching the show. It isn't even like, fun bad." That is the most sincere and genuine remark I've heard him say about a show in ages. Like there's no hint of joking or playfulness, he's absolutely dead serious.
Between Halo Infinite and the Halo TV show I feel like we're seeing the epitome of what happens when an IP has no passion left in its studio and is completely corporatized. It doesn't exist because somebody has ideas for a good story or something new to add to the genre. It exists purely to wring every last cent out of the dried up husk that is the Halo brand and they'll continue to do so for as long as it takes until the profit margins aren't there anymore. Then they'll just say nobody cares about Halo anymore and toss it in the garbage without caring that they're the ones who killed it.
@@burp2019 Exactly Infinite's Story is good, but it's told in a way that's not coherent to the player, without the player understanding some of the Extended Universe Lore. If they added Time Stamps to the Cortana flashbacks, it would have done wonders to improve the story flow.
Studios work for the investors, the largest investors in these studios are corporations like Vanguard and Blackrock which tend to see their investment power as a way of regimenting an industry, who they're regimenting that industry for, or what political/ideological interests, is the real question. It's clearly not purely profit-driven or else they wouldn't be consistently tanking products with mediocrity.
Better yet halo has books, stories, and things within the games that expand on the universe, they could’ve made a stellar first season using a few chapters from one of the books if they tried, as someone who loves to look into the lore of halo this show is just a slap in the face to the people that genuinely love everything about halo outside of just playing the games. The lore is much DEEPER than what the games represent too, I was hoping the show was gonna give us a visual representation on all of the great things the books and lore have and instead we get this “thing” that’s unrecognizable. It’s just such a massive disappointment
Yeah, from what Charlie is saying with the person trying to crack “the covenant language”, that’s already a theme in Blades In The Dark and the Kilo-Five series. Haven’t seen the show, but it sounds like it’s set before 2552 and all the other shit that was established in and around the K5 books.
@@Lays-But-Not-The-Chips it’s like they loosely read or skimmed through all the books wikis and took what they wanted and changed around things for their agendas
I feel like good video game adaptions are usually based on books or lore written down outside of the gameplay or main story. The Witcher was based on its original books (which the games were adapted from as well) more than the games and Arcane threw out the whole gameplay part of lol and used the wiki instead. On the other hand there are good adaptations for games without a lot of lore where the writers are given a lot of freedom like in Castlevania.
@@---gj3qn I can see where you're coming from, I really liked castlevania, I havent watched Arcane yet but from what my friends tell me its really good, I've been thinking about giving it a shot. dont really know much of the lore on either of them, I feel like the people that like the Halo adaptation are mostly people that have no idea what its all about. The lore in halo is so expansive they could make a show as long as Supernatural with all the information you can dig out of it. I feel like another thing to do with the outrage is the fact that halo is such a MASSIVE series with a very large and very dedicated fanbase, especially those who favored the original bungie trilogy alongside reach. I feel like the trailers for most of the games say 1000 words with what we have. Imagine a show revolving around the ODST's using the original trailer for ODST as a visual aid. I would love something like that. It shows feared the covenant really is, and maybe when things look bad John can appear and save the day leading into why a spartan on the battlefield is such a force to be reckon with. Or better yet give us a show about red team. Give Jerome more time in the spotlight other than in halo wars. They could've gone in the early days of chief, show us his training from childhood, show us their first mission, show the death of Samuel-034 and how its effects John. there is 100 ways to think about this, I feel like when they announced a show that's what most fans were really hoping for.
I work in television and I'll tell you why this is happening- nobody wants to take the risk of backing projects that aren't already popular. Meaning, if the director wanted to make their own sci-fi movie, they had to choose a pre-existing property to tack on to. Most producers don't know anything besides 'this franchise sold a couple million games,' and thats all they need to hear. Unfortunately this leads to a lot of creators watering down their original visions to be able to call their work something else, while simultaneously ruining beloved franchises.
You forgot about CastleVania being also a good adaptation. But, anyway, I just feel bad for Halo fans. Like I can't really play shooters (i can play other games but due to having one arm, mouse+key games or even shooters with controller are very difficult to play for me) but i like watching Halo LPs and lore videos because i find the story really interesting. I was looking forward to being able to consume Halo content without getting cockblocked by the gameplay being inaccessible to me, but i cant say i wasnt fearing the worst. And it happened... like I may not have as much attachment to the series, but I do feel bad for those who are bigger fans.
You don't actually miss a lot by not playing the games. It largely stems from the fact that Bungie themselves were antagonistic to the release of the Halo Extended Universe. Even though 343 is embracing the Extended universe, they don't actually tie the games into the extended Universe. Halo Infinite for example, took place on one of the most lore important Halo Rings, but there was no references to the period of time where the Gravemind had control over Zeta Halo, or when Master builder Faber was experimenting on humans.
@@tylerbarse2866 they had a on and off relationship with the OG halo book writer Eric Nylund. They felt they could write better than him and brushed him to the side instead of working with him in the early 2000s
if you really wanna consume halo watch the live action trailers and the whole believe campaign they did for halo 3. Its not the same as watching a show or playing thru the games but its better than this garbage
"A Game of Halo" "Halo: John Van Helsing" "John 117: Spartan Gigolo" "The Halo Chronicles" "Master Cheeks: Busty Alien Hoes 5" Alternative titles to the Halo show.
I think it boils down to ego. My view has been that these producers don't like the idea of adaptation, they want a complete re-working of the game property to fit _their_ narrative vision. While creative liberties aren't bad, the blatant disregard to source material is baffling. Producers/Directors can't stand the idea that the material is pre-determined, they _need_ to make it their own idea...like it satisfies some desperate need to take credit for someone else's work. Then the end result is a bastardization of the source material.
Definitely ego. I always seeing it as the producers/directors seeing video games as being lower than them, since they work with movies and in Hollywood. It's only a video game so it doesn't matter, my ideas will obviously be better than the source material. At no point does it occur to them, that these video game IPs got big because they are already good. Not "video game good" but, just good.
Repent to Jesus Christ ““Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes?” Matthew 6:25 NIV K
The whole covenant language thing really stuck out to me. Are they literally not debriefing the Spartans after every engagement? It seriously never occurred to anyone to just ask the Spartans what they can tell them about the aliens? Also in the context of the show it seems like the entire UNSC alien research department is controlled by Miranda Keyes, she's the only human in the galaxy doing any kind of alien research. Like, couldn't they just have some extras in lab-coats or something?
Yes, on one hand, I felt like that was the smartest scene in the show since it was actually about the war. On the other, it just shows how terrible the writers are at creating a believable world since something like this belongs in a fantasy show and not a word where scientists are dissecting convenant
It's disgusting how people are allowed to debase a created universe so badly. I'm not even able to really put into words how much this shit upsets me because the more I try the angrier I get and all i'm left with are sentences full of swear words.
I know no one’s ever gonna see this, but they could have honestly done such a good job with this, follow the storyline of Halo but then you have the downtime, the time where we’re not in combat, and they could have used that to show hey Master Chief has some demons, he has some ptsd, he has problems and he’s still human in there despite being an unstoppable force on the battlefield. Looks all calm and collected on the outside when in combat and as a symbol, but you could showcase some issues behind the scenes and people would actually care about it.
The UNSC being this comically evil is so baffling to me. If they really wanted the "good guy organization but actually their secretly evil" trope, they could have easily used ONI. Something that actually is the in-universe overly controlling shadowy organization that does terrible things for it's own benefit!
Exactly, the UNSC is still pretty terrible in the lore but compared to ONI they're an organization of saints They had all this fantastic material they could use just laid out for them but they chose to throw it all away because they probably thought they could do better
@@malif1279 No they ignored the established lore because they didnt want to "waste" time researching it. Nobody cares about video games or gamers for that matter in the film industry the only reason some people found The Witcher ok was because Henry Cavill is a fan and tried his best so they dont ruin the script completely.
The problem with that narrative is that Humanity is still acting defensively against the Covenant and anything ONI did could be argued as a necessary cruelty. As far as the games are concerned, ONI still acts in Humanity’s best interests when the alternative is genocide by aliens or having humans self sabotaging their war efforts via every rebel faction imaginable. Had these hack fucks played a Halo game, they would have realized that this “blindly following authority bad” concept was done perfectly with Halo 2 and Arbiter.
I think it’s frustrating that the Halo show gets SO MANY small things right. Things like the battle rifle design and scale unchanged from the games, distant frigates keep their designs, consistent Covenant language, designs of the Covenant, Grunts, etc. BUT they get so much incredibly wrong. Like Master Chief putting his helmet on for 30 seconds to drive in a warthog then immediately taking it off, Chief trying to harm Halsey, Chief yelling “WHO AM I?“, Spartans emotions being suppressed by a conveniently removable pellet, and then there’s rebels using modern day AK-47s than halo weapons…
@@adamlaouiti6415 I was gonna say, I don't care how underdeveloped and poor your planet is supposed to be, this is 400 years in our future, you have access to better weapons that an AK47
It's because there are halo fans among the crew who are probably biting their tongue and doing their best to make the show halo. The sound design has been fantastic, and all of the props, set dec and cgi designs have been done with care.
He's totally right- the problem is that there needs be a process so that these people, who likely aren't taking the time to understand what people like about videogames, can pick out the crucial elements from the story that makes people connect with them, and include them in the show- along with identifying the elements that NEED to make their way onto the production as a service to the property (like Charlie mentions in the video), and to the fans who already have a connection with the property. Ruining these sucks for the consumer, it's like watching companies set fire to your favorite brands. Also, LOL'd when he said 'master cheeks'
The guy that plays chief is actually a really good actor and was amazing in the wire. I'm sure with the right creators/writers/directors he would have done fine
If Rooster Teeth can make a show with several characters with extreme diverse personalities wearing spartan armor with rigid movements, then surely the Halo series could have a more accurate live action Chief without showing his face.
Halo is a pretty simple story: "We gotta stop these genocidal aliens before they find an ancient superweapon and kill everybody!" How do they mess up this badly?
The most infuriating adaptation fuck up to me is the POSTAL movie. They like... *Almost* got it. Just bearly, but not quite. And POSTAL 2 is a fantastic game to adapt, it has a very simple plot with one character you have to nail, and the rest are interchangeable. It's like put a golf ball am inch away from the hole, and they manage to hit hard enough that it roles into a pond near by.
@@plantain.1739 Hey the postal movie was a masterpiece, even if you haven't played the game it was epic, from a time when dark humor wasn't censored or didn't prompt the creators to cancellation, I salute them for even considering to turn the postal game into a movie and they didn't just consider it they actually did it, there isn't a lot to explain in the postal lore since you can pretty much replace it to anything that would match it in the real world as long as someone goes postal in the story it is a postal movie, besides Im pretty sure there's a huge disconnect and plenty of plot holes with the lore in each game, the first one wasn't even as wacky as the second it was just played straight, so theres really no need to beat the movie producers for "messing" with the lore since its basically non existent in the first place and is only contriving to to the gameplay as the postal dude as you set out and make your own story in the town of paradise, you can't compare the halo f4ck up with postal because at least postal was good and was coherent to what would actually occur in game compared to halo which has the simplest lore to follow around the master chief and yet they managed to turn it into some game of thrones hyperbolean bs, if you want to know the most terrible game adaptation try looking at the resident evil movies with Milla Jovovich as "Alice" instead of Leon, Chris, or Jill or anyone from the actual game as the protagonist instead they made up their own story
There's a parallel universe out there where this show begins with the Pillar of Autumn arriving at Halo and Chief has to help the almost doomed crew of that ship after they crash land in the ring world. There's also a wise cracking badass Sargent with a cigar and sudden unexpected parasite horror half way in. This show was a huge success in this parallel world because it reached a broader audience and didn't deviate from the source material.
I actually hate what they've done to Halsey and Cortana. They turned Halsey from someone who struggled with the ethics of the Spartan program to someone who thinks of her spartans as tools and generic evil scientist "for progress" bullshit. And Cortana being a tool to enforce her will on the Chief is so weak. But yeah, its insulting that Master Chief and Halsey don't resemble their former characters at all. The directors not having played Halo is the biggest red flag too. It's not like they're long games either, its the *least* they could have done to know what they're getting into. Instead they've just pissed off all the fans, so I genuinely don't know who this show is for.
@@Jim-yl6tf The only show where UN is actually evil is programming? People here like Avengers where America drops in, saves the day and all of the locals are all happy. Everyone I know loves the halo show except me. You shouldn't have to play a video game to watch a show. THAT is lame.
@@HiddenRealm they don't even need to actually play it, they could skim through a longplay of someone who is actually decent at the game and get a good idea of what it is about. They just hate video games I guess and see them as "lesser", thats my only guess
Its literally for couch potatos who think the barest level of good visuals and a plotline too stupid to exist but they wishy washy explain it away and its fine for couch potatos
Forgiveness is always available to you, Charlie. You're the golden boy of youtube, the moist newsman, the shitposter of truth. You will always have our trust!
given the end result of the show, you CAN see why there was a massive turnover in terms of key people involved. It cannot be a coincidence that this show has lost so many producers and what not before even starting filming
I firmly believe the Halo show started out as a script for a generic sci fi movie and then Paramount picked it up and made the deal with 343 so they tweaked it to kinda fit Halo without starting over
The mere fact that they constantly show his face is a crime in itself. Like WTF. How hard would it have been to do the show Mandalorian style and only have him remove the helmet when absolutely necessary or narratively important?
But that's the exact opposite of the narrative they're trying to go for obviously. They're clearly trying to humanize Master Chief, by showing him rarely in his suit, all these constant flashbacks of him as a child, everyone just calling him John pretty much.
It's honestly baffling how they decided to just make a whole "New Timeline" instead of making a show based on one of the hundreds of lore stories Halo has. Whats even worse is the fact that some Halo RU-vidrs defend this. How? How could you defend something that just disrespects the thing you love so much. As a massive fan of Halo all my life, i'm not even mad at this. Just...really disappointed at this whole situation.
How cool would it be if 343 commissioned some film producer to greenlight a proper adaptation of *ANY* of Eric Nyland's original Halo novels. Imagine a *proper* adaptation of the Fall of Reach novel. Imagine some cool action scenes in Onyx's lush jungle in the Ghosts of Onyx book. MAYBE a Halo First Strike mini series. Omfg, there is so much shit they could have done. But no, let's create a shitty adaptation of Halo CE, but not give proper motivation of HOW the UNSC found the Forerunner Installations in the first place.
Remember this: They only said it was an 'Alternate Timeline' after the initial reviews. They shitcanned it so hard that they tried to cover it up AFTER the fact.
Thank you for saying this!!!!! The fact they couldn't get barely anything right in the TV show is like what?! Halo could've been a multibillion dollar Tv show if done right. All they literally would've needed was one person on the production team who either knew the lore or played the game or knew the original story, to make the show a thousand times better.
What's irritating about that Halo show is that even in a separate timeline there's a LOT you can do with a Halo show. You can follow a contingent of Marines and ODSTs as they struggle against the covenant in a violent war movie and have some Spartans there as well. You could have a tense thrilling show about the UNSC navy and the very diverse cast of men and women that serve and die on the front lines in space against the Covenant in ship-to-ship combat. You could even tackle the UNSC conflict with the rebels amidst the Covenant War like the book The Cole Protocol does (which coincidentally has the planet Madrigal in it... glassed by the Covenant like 15 years prior to the start of the book). Hell even the books don't go into every single Spartan II, you could make up a couple and follow them as they travel to different theatres of battle and fight the Covenant (leading back to that show focusing on the Marines and ODSTs). Hell you could have a drama that *properly* explores Halsey and the very questionable ethics of the Spartan II Program because it is a veritable can of worms that leads into the Spartan III projects even worse ethics. You could even follow a rogue group of humans who aren't UNSC or rebels but weird fanatical Covenant worshippers who keep trying to follow the Covenant to join them on the Great Journey. And that's just the ideas I came up with. You have a setting of a war that humanity is losing to the point of near extinction, there's so much there. Instead we get this show that is all "but let's make Chief a completely different character and explore the past" and also "The Covenant hate all of humanity, except this one that Master Chief gets to cuck Cortana with" and also also "we hate Halsey too" because the book Glasslands wasn't enough of a garbage fire that transformed into a Halsey-bashing fan fiction. God it's irritating.
I go over similar rants in my head for every movie adaptation of a game that comes out. All the things they could have done great with their enormous budgets but they don't even care to look into the source material. And if they do it's only to get the characters names and 1% of the lore right. The rest is usually pure garbage and totally unrelated to the game and it's atmosphere. Random fans having 10% of their budget would do better
Using CGI replacements for easily buildable props is often a budgetary decision - but not for the reason you think. VFX houses are one of the few departments in the industry in which the majority aren't unionized.
There's so many different directions the show could've gone. Like showing what its like to be a marine. Or a different spartan, or whatever. But that requires research. No, you gotta make that quick and easy buck while appealing to no one.
The thing for me, about adaptations and remakes, is that there must first exist an ego, or a company, that believes that it can 1) improve upon, or at the very least, replicate every aspect of what made the original/source material great, and 2) dissuade viewers/buyers from believing otherwise. I long for the amount of self confidence and capital that one must possess to believe they can catch lightning (art) in a bottle twice
Or at least feel they can bring the essence of the game narrative to people who like stories but don’t play games. Like…my mom will never play video games but she would probably enjoy a faithful adaptation of some of my favorite games.
@@kade1348 the witcher season 1 was an ok adaptation, season 2 70% of it had nothing to do with the books(which is what it is adapting) and it's fucking insulting
When someone makes a video game adaptation, they need to find a passionate nerd who has really gotten into the lore, and listen to them. Make them an advisor to the writers and director and put up with how insufferable they might end up being. It will probably produce at least a semi-accurate and enjoyable movie.
The weird thing this show is doing making the UNSC evil, is the fact that while the UNSC is sketchy at points it's never the UNSC doing the very bad things it's ONI who are just asswholes, but it'd be too hard to actually establish a multi-faction world in 9 episodes...
you could probably set it up with literally just a few people sitting at a war table and literally just have a UNSC person mention ONI. 10 minutes or less of any level of effort.
And I love the fact that all of these shows that know they've screwed themselves by, for some reason not reading or playing or watching the source material always try and just throw sex or something sexual or horny in it just to try and please the audience
Ironically they did a good job recreating a concept that happens a lot in gaming. Taking a popular franchise (I'm looking at you Ubisoft) rewriting lore, ignoring the world building, and then slap the IP's name on it to sell to loyal fans of the franchise. Tom Clancy, and Assassin's Creed are two examples I can think of immediately.
I'm a dude who's essentially an outsider to the halo franchise. Ive never played a single Halo game or read any novels, hell I don't even know what a halo is, and yet even I know they colossally fucked up master chief's character by revealing his face and making him have sex, like wasn't the point that he couldn't really form any meaningful relations with actual humans
The point was he couldn't form relationships with humans but found a close relationship to an AI that is beyond sexual or familial. The relationship with Cortana is the pinnacle of Halo because John is a faceless man that is made to perform like a machine and Cortana is a "machine" that is made to imitate a person.
Revealing his face didn't necessarily fuck up his character but everything else did. Revealing his face is a different issue whereby idiotic writers think the audience are incapable of empathising with the protagonist if they can't see past the helmet...in spite of the fact that the entirety of the game franchise is evidence to the contrary. Chief's character was fucked by everything else; being a miserable, whiny, violent, insubordinate, irresponsible and hypocritical. The Chief of the games was stoic, short-spoken, mission-oriented and just an all-round good guy. He would never grab a rando stranger throw him against the wall and yell 'WHAT AM I' inches from his face, jesus fucking christ show.
My only experience with Halo was playing Halo 3 co-op with my brother years ago. I do think it's a cool story, and I'm sure the games are fun I just have never really gotten into playing them, and I can say with certainty I don't want to watch this show. How can they be proud of the fact they did no research whatsoever? That's literally not how you're supposed to do things. This would probably actually be better if it was a fanfic cause at least then it'd be written by somebody that knows and likes the source material.
It needs to be a mandatory job requirement for writers adapting an existing series to another medium to be fully knowledgeable of the source material. If you can't even answer a solid "yes" to the question, "Hey, have you ever played Halo?" then you should not be allowed on the writing team for a Halo tv show.
@@gundamwalrus8522 they need people to stop making the game look trash because when people look at it and never played it they will sh*t on it bc they think thats how the game is. it needs to stop and they need to actually play the game and write it based on the game and stop being lazy
The worst part is just how generic the story is. Seen it a million times over - the enemy falls for the hero, the audience sees the change in heart but no actual character does, and then the enemy's newfound feelings are betrayed (rightfully so), and so they're the enemy again. The first 20 minutes of the show were the best part -- it was an unexpected slaughtering with the Spartans then kicking ass. Downhill from there.
Watching this video and seeing you be so passionate about Halo has genuinely started a hyperfixation for me, when I couldn't care less about this franchise an hour ago.
I didnt know about the resident evil movie or show or whatever and it really surprised me because its already allot of games and a good handful of movies.
The thing that pissed me off the most is that in the game, master chief’s face hasn’t been revealed and has been a mystery for 20 years. But as soon as the TV show airs in the first season they reveal his face, remind you which has been a mystery for 20 year, remind you, which was revealed in one season. Also the show makes the UNSC look evil. Master chief has fucking sex as Cortana watches. This is one of the worst shows I’ve ever seen.
@@iamthehype3684 The Mjolnir was removable with several technicians in the early models, but later and post-war saw the advent of machines which can completely dismantle the armor by the user just standing inside it.
The only reason I'm going to watch Netflix's Resident Evil, or Venus Fly Trap like they used to call it, is that they filmed it locally here in South Africa and some of the people I know played extras in it. I'm going to watch it JUST for them hahaha.
While I do agree, its a little like comparing apples to oranges. Halo has tons of story game content and a million books to flesh out the world while lol has only multi-player games with very little emphasis on the world or story so they had a ton of artistic license to change whatever they wanted. (And they changed basically everything about the established lore of the characters even if it wasn't alot.)
I love the Halo novels, and was tentatively interested when I heard the writers looked at those rather than the game. I have no idea where they got John(Master Chief) having sex as an idea, that is like the least John thing ever. And human working with the Covenant??? They don't roll like that except for one time where they were just gonna kill the human after two days anyway. What the hell-
You didn't even mention how part of a Spartan's armor is a nutrient drip, a catheter, and a colonoscopy bag, because they never have to take it off. Sets the mood quite like removing two of those.
I’d love to see a band of brothers style halo show from the perspective of either ODSTs or basic marines. You could have this grounded military drama for the start of it and show the stages of training then nearer the end or in later seasons you could introduce Spartans as these inhuman killing machines that just decimate everything in their way. It would really serve to show how much of a threat the covenant are and also how powerful Spartans are in comparison to the human foot soldiers.
But then how will they draw in free viewership with character recognition. Also they need to fulfill their desire to spit on long time fans and create a terrible first impression of the franchise for everyone who hasn't played the games.
i think a series following edward buck could work really well. bring nathan fillion in and follow the character from (roughly) the start of his career, the fall of reach, the events of ODST, and either cut it off at the end of the covenant war or show him becoming a spartan and take on the challenge of adapting the reclaimer saga
there's a Halo series called Nightfall that i found pretty cool. it even gives you rewards in Halo 5 if you watch it on your Xbox
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I actually think the moist meter would shatter on this one. Might need to bust out the Dryness Detector, the Barren Barometer, or the Parched Protractor
I dont get why they dont just make an animated series with all the money they spend. Cinematics of games are what we love! Halo 3 Cinematic was amazing!
@@SB-dc5on They don’t want to invest more than they have to. They need to pay the hard working execs as much as they can while spending as little everywhere else.
@UCgy55k0mFVdte_J1jSPkAOg ikr red v blue was a banger, they should’ve gotten the guys at Rooster Teeth to write this show. Hell, even a live action red v blue would be better
This game such a huge aspect of my early childhood. Played it way before i played call of duty. halo 1 was like my first fps game and one of my first games. I am so disappointed by how this tv series was created.. I would rather it not be created at al. Truly a shame.