Just using the name for a generic story that doesn't justify its own existence, made by people who don't even like the original story. That's so true, it hurts.
half of the video game movies suck. i dare not even call this a video game movie because they clearly done give two shits about the games. sonic does it so well. this and the doom movies just...flop horribly.
Seriously, it makes me sad, because it makes fans not have hope in the show, but Arcane, Sonic, and I guess The Witcher, these are game based shows and movies that had been successfully mended into... something else that opens everyone's eyes to the franchise or Name.
This isn't even fanfic, because to write fanfic, you have to be a fan, and the people who made the show are proud of the fact that they've never played the games or read the books
Sad thing is, they claim to have read some of the books. Even then, they are just supplemental material to the games so having read a couple random books from the series serves almost no purpose. I think the only reason they even mention this is to look more high brow and intellectual by going "of course we READ because that is INTELLIGENT, but playing some stupid VIDEO GAMES is not".
Not just charlie. Everyone that calls themselves a Halo fan is beyond disappointed and frustrated. I am thankful to still own the original video games and I will still stick with them. I won't pay a cent to paramount plus and I refuse to watch the show, especially knowing full on before release that they didn't even bother looking at the source material.
Hearing that Master Chief claps cheeks made me physically grimace. Like isn’t the point that even though Master Chief is a hero to humanity that he is unable to have real relationships with others due to his upbringing as a child soldier? Isn’t that what makes his relationship with Cortana that much more important is that his only real relationship is with an AI and not a human? Like he isn’t supposed to be intimate with people that goes against everything that makes him tragic.
Cortana to Chief: "Before this is over, promise me that you'll figure out which one of us is the machine." People might not like Halo 4, but it gave Chief and Cortana some great development that was unfortunately squandered in Halo 5.
@@YormanGina i’m being 100% honest with the fact that Halo 4 literally made me cry despite what Bungie elitists will say, the development between Chief and Cortana in Halo 4 was some of the best storytelling in the entire series
The fucked up thing is that the show is full of little details and references to deep lore and real life stuff related to the games, so the minor writters or directors of the show actually know pretty damn well the franchise. Then WHY TF THE MAIN WRITTERS ARE WORST THAN A WATTPAD FANFIC?
Company: "We bought the rights to this really hugely popular IP and are making a show/movie!" Everyone: "Oh that's awesome I've been a fan of that IP for a long time. I'm sure the fans would love to see an adaptation." Company: "Fuck the fans. This isn't for you. We don't need you." Everyone: "...K..."
My haters throw rocks at me and IT hurts. I hope they don't throw The Rock at me because I like him as an actor. GAGAGAGAGA!!! I am funny!!! I am the funniest RU-vidr EVAH! Please agree, dear na
His kills the whole character of chief because his internal conflict is if he's more machine than man physically and mentally. He's all about showing no emotion and only caring about the next mission because that's why he was made.
The fact that the assault rifle is cgi and that they didnt even bother painting the plasma pistol is just baffling. No fucking way its 10mil per episode
I could live with the fact that master chief is emo on the show if they had an abundance of fight scenes. I hope I’m not the only one that mostly just looked forward to seeing him kicking ass. Instead, all we get is just literally his ass.
I am one of these people lol, one of my favorite shows this year. Everyone wants action and fighting scenes but I think the drama makes for a way better story
I feel like Arcane is one of the best examples of a game turned into a show/movie. It still kept its source material but added on more and more, making its own fully fleshed out world.
Arcane is an animation show tho, it's not a live action movie. There is a massive difference between both, Halo also had an adaptation of Fall Of Reach book as a animated show, and it's pretty good
@@claire6650 Halo has also had a live action movie, _Forward Unto Dawn._ While obviously lower budget than the Paramount show, it was still well written and captured the feel of Halo. Being live action has nothing to do with shitty writing decisions.
@@Pariux true, but for some reason animated adaptations do tend to be much better than the live action ones. Maybe because the animators normally care about the source material
I work in television and I'll tell you why this is happening- nobody wants to take the risk of backing projects that aren't already popular. Meaning, if the director wanted to make their own sci-fi movie, they had to choose a pre-existing property to tack on to. Most producers don't know anything besides 'this franchise sold a couple million games,' and thats all they need to hear. Unfortunately this leads to a lot of creators watering down their original visions to be able to call their work something else, while simultaneously ruining beloved franchises.
As a lifelong Sonic fan, I find it so bizarre that the Sonic movie, of all things, has become a go-to example of video game adaptations done right, but here we are. I just got so used to people shitting on the franchise while I sit in a corner quietly mumbling, "C'mon guys it's not that bad."
"I'm getting really deep into spoilers but I'm doing you a favor, I wouldn't recommend watching the show. It isn't even like, fun bad." That is the most sincere and genuine remark I've heard him say about a show in ages. Like there's no hint of joking or playfulness, he's absolutely dead serious.
Whoa, Charlie's acting skills just poured out of that performance as Master Chief. He was able to perfectly encapsulate the pain and struggle Master Chief is feeling at the loss of his memory and by extension his humanity. Charlie is able to capture all of that hurt in such a short demonstration because he is able to draw on his own experiences to breathe life into what could have been a shallow performance. He is truly the greatest acting talent of our generation.
I think it’s frustrating that the Halo show gets SO MANY small things right. Things like the battle rifle design and scale unchanged from the games, distant frigates keep their designs, consistent Covenant language, designs of the Covenant, Grunts, etc. BUT they get so much incredibly wrong. Like Master Chief putting his helmet on for 30 seconds to drive in a warthog then immediately taking it off, Chief trying to harm Halsey, Chief yelling “WHO AM I?“, Spartans emotions being suppressed by a conveniently removable pellet, and then there’s rebels using modern day AK-47s than halo weapons…
@@adamlaouiti6415 I was gonna say, I don't care how underdeveloped and poor your planet is supposed to be, this is 400 years in our future, you have access to better weapons that an AK47
It's because there are halo fans among the crew who are probably biting their tongue and doing their best to make the show halo. The sound design has been fantastic, and all of the props, set dec and cgi designs have been done with care.
I actually hate what they've done to Halsey and Cortana. They turned Halsey from someone who struggled with the ethics of the Spartan program to someone who thinks of her spartans as tools and generic evil scientist "for progress" bullshit. And Cortana being a tool to enforce her will on the Chief is so weak. But yeah, its insulting that Master Chief and Halsey don't resemble their former characters at all. The directors not having played Halo is the biggest red flag too. It's not like they're long games either, its the *least* they could have done to know what they're getting into. Instead they've just pissed off all the fans, so I genuinely don't know who this show is for.
@@Jim-yl6tf The only show where UN is actually evil is programming? People here like Avengers where America drops in, saves the day and all of the locals are all happy. Everyone I know loves the halo show except me. You shouldn't have to play a video game to watch a show. THAT is lame.
@@HiddenRealm they don't even need to actually play it, they could skim through a longplay of someone who is actually decent at the game and get a good idea of what it is about. They just hate video games I guess and see them as "lesser", thats my only guess
Its literally for couch potatos who think the barest level of good visuals and a plotline too stupid to exist but they wishy washy explain it away and its fine for couch potatos
The UNSC being this comically evil is so baffling to me. If they really wanted the "good guy organization but actually their secretly evil" trope, they could have easily used ONI. Something that actually is the in-universe overly controlling shadowy organization that does terrible things for it's own benefit!
Exactly, the UNSC is still pretty terrible in the lore but compared to ONI they're an organization of saints They had all this fantastic material they could use just laid out for them but they chose to throw it all away because they probably thought they could do better
@@malif1279 No they ignored the established lore because they didnt want to "waste" time researching it. Nobody cares about video games or gamers for that matter in the film industry the only reason some people found The Witcher ok was because Henry Cavill is a fan and tried his best so they dont ruin the script completely.
The problem with that narrative is that Humanity is still acting defensively against the Covenant and anything ONI did could be argued as a necessary cruelty. As far as the games are concerned, ONI still acts in Humanity’s best interests when the alternative is genocide by aliens or having humans self sabotaging their war efforts via every rebel faction imaginable. Had these hack fucks played a Halo game, they would have realized that this “blindly following authority bad” concept was done perfectly with Halo 2 and Arbiter.
I think it boils down to ego. My view has been that these producers don't like the idea of adaptation, they want a complete re-working of the game property to fit _their_ narrative vision. While creative liberties aren't bad, the blatant disregard to source material is baffling. Producers/Directors can't stand the idea that the material is pre-determined, they _need_ to make it their own idea...like it satisfies some desperate need to take credit for someone else's work. Then the end result is a bastardization of the source material.
Definitely ego. I always seeing it as the producers/directors seeing video games as being lower than them, since they work with movies and in Hollywood. It's only a video game so it doesn't matter, my ideas will obviously be better than the source material. At no point does it occur to them, that these video game IPs got big because they are already good. Not "video game good" but, just good.
And that's why things like the Sonic movies are good, because it doesn't feel like the Producers/Directors/Writers want to make it something divorced from the source material, they want to make an *ADAPTATION* of it to fit the media of movies.
Halo is a pretty simple story: "We gotta stop these genocidal aliens before they find an ancient superweapon and kill everybody!" How do they mess up this badly?
The most infuriating adaptation fuck up to me is the POSTAL movie. They like... *Almost* got it. Just bearly, but not quite. And POSTAL 2 is a fantastic game to adapt, it has a very simple plot with one character you have to nail, and the rest are interchangeable. It's like put a golf ball am inch away from the hole, and they manage to hit hard enough that it roles into a pond near by.
@@plantain.1739 Hey the postal movie was a masterpiece, even if you haven't played the game it was epic, from a time when dark humor wasn't censored or didn't prompt the creators to cancellation, I salute them for even considering to turn the postal game into a movie and they didn't just consider it they actually did it, there isn't a lot to explain in the postal lore since you can pretty much replace it to anything that would match it in the real world as long as someone goes postal in the story it is a postal movie, besides Im pretty sure there's a huge disconnect and plenty of plot holes with the lore in each game, the first one wasn't even as wacky as the second it was just played straight, so theres really no need to beat the movie producers for "messing" with the lore since its basically non existent in the first place and is only contriving to to the gameplay as the postal dude as you set out and make your own story in the town of paradise, you can't compare the halo f4ck up with postal because at least postal was good and was coherent to what would actually occur in game compared to halo which has the simplest lore to follow around the master chief and yet they managed to turn it into some game of thrones hyperbolean bs, if you want to know the most terrible game adaptation try looking at the resident evil movies with Milla Jovovich as "Alice" instead of Leon, Chris, or Jill or anyone from the actual game as the protagonist instead they made up their own story
My fears came true, this show went from mediocre at worst to absolute garbage within a few episodes... I WAS warming up to it, now I'm just torturing myself by watching it.
@@MinorityRespecter88 by warming up, I mean I was hating it much less by episode 5, because I managed to block and report the lore side of me so I could brainlessly enjoy the action. But then all hell broke loose after that. I'm glad I'm good friends with Davey Jones. Paramount don't deserve a cent for what they're doing.
@@navb0tactual I guess that makes sense but how could you mindlessly enjoy the action if there's only 5 minutes of it and only in two episodes of the entire series? lol
Using CGI replacements for easily buildable props is often a budgetary decision - but not for the reason you think. VFX houses are one of the few departments in the industry in which the majority aren't unionized.
Fun fact: Reth, the crazy dude on the Rubble who gave the stupid halo reveal, is actually based off a character from the extended universe, except he’s supposed to be a jackal
It's honestly baffling how they decided to just make a whole "New Timeline" instead of making a show based on one of the hundreds of lore stories Halo has. Whats even worse is the fact that some Halo RU-vidrs defend this. How? How could you defend something that just disrespects the thing you love so much. As a massive fan of Halo all my life, i'm not even mad at this. Just...really disappointed at this whole situation.
How cool would it be if 343 commissioned some film producer to greenlight a proper adaptation of *ANY* of Eric Nyland's original Halo novels. Imagine a *proper* adaptation of the Fall of Reach novel. Imagine some cool action scenes in Onyx's lush jungle in the Ghosts of Onyx book. MAYBE a Halo First Strike mini series. Omfg, there is so much shit they could have done. But no, let's create a shitty adaptation of Halo CE, but not give proper motivation of HOW the UNSC found the Forerunner Installations in the first place.
Remember this: They only said it was an 'Alternate Timeline' after the initial reviews. They shitcanned it so hard that they tried to cover it up AFTER the fact.
If Rooster Teeth can make a show with several characters with extreme diverse personalities wearing spartan armor with rigid movements, then surely the Halo series could have a more accurate live action Chief without showing his face.
Between Halo Infinite and the Halo TV show I feel like we're seeing the epitome of what happens when an IP has no passion left in its studio and is completely corporatized. It doesn't exist because somebody has ideas for a good story or something new to add to the genre. It exists purely to wring every last cent out of the dried up husk that is the Halo brand and they'll continue to do so for as long as it takes until the profit margins aren't there anymore. Then they'll just say nobody cares about Halo anymore and toss it in the garbage without caring that they're the ones who killed it.
@@burp2019 Exactly Infinite's Story is good, but it's told in a way that's not coherent to the player, without the player understanding some of the Extended Universe Lore. If they added Time Stamps to the Cortana flashbacks, it would have done wonders to improve the story flow.
Studios work for the investors, the largest investors in these studios are corporations like Vanguard and Blackrock which tend to see their investment power as a way of regimenting an industry, who they're regimenting that industry for, or what political/ideological interests, is the real question. It's clearly not purely profit-driven or else they wouldn't be consistently tanking products with mediocrity.
The mere fact that they constantly show his face is a crime in itself. Like WTF. How hard would it have been to do the show Mandalorian style and only have him remove the helmet when absolutely necessary or narratively important?
But that's the exact opposite of the narrative they're trying to go for obviously. They're clearly trying to humanize Master Chief, by showing him rarely in his suit, all these constant flashbacks of him as a child, everyone just calling him John pretty much.
The weird thing this show is doing making the UNSC evil, is the fact that while the UNSC is sketchy at points it's never the UNSC doing the very bad things it's ONI who are just asswholes, but it'd be too hard to actually establish a multi-faction world in 9 episodes...
you could probably set it up with literally just a few people sitting at a war table and literally just have a UNSC person mention ONI. 10 minutes or less of any level of effort.
When someone makes a video game adaptation, they need to find a passionate nerd who has really gotten into the lore, and listen to them. Make them an advisor to the writers and director and put up with how insufferable they might end up being. It will probably produce at least a semi-accurate and enjoyable movie.
The worst part is just how generic the story is. Seen it a million times over - the enemy falls for the hero, the audience sees the change in heart but no actual character does, and then the enemy's newfound feelings are betrayed (rightfully so), and so they're the enemy again. The first 20 minutes of the show were the best part -- it was an unexpected slaughtering with the Spartans then kicking ass. Downhill from there.
It's disgusting how people are allowed to debase a created universe so badly. I'm not even able to really put into words how much this shit upsets me because the more I try the angrier I get and all i'm left with are sentences full of swear words.
The thing that pissed me off the most is that in the game, master chief’s face hasn’t been revealed and has been a mystery for 20 years. But as soon as the TV show airs in the first season they reveal his face, remind you which has been a mystery for 20 year, remind you, which was revealed in one season. Also the show makes the UNSC look evil. Master chief has fucking sex as Cortana watches. This is one of the worst shows I’ve ever seen.
@@iamthehype3684 The Mjolnir was removable with several technicians in the early models, but later and post-war saw the advent of machines which can completely dismantle the armor by the user just standing inside it.
It needs to be a mandatory job requirement for writers adapting an existing series to another medium to be fully knowledgeable of the source material. If you can't even answer a solid "yes" to the question, "Hey, have you ever played Halo?" then you should not be allowed on the writing team for a Halo tv show.
@@DoomedKnight they need people to stop making the game look trash because when people look at it and never played it they will sh*t on it bc they think thats how the game is. it needs to stop and they need to actually play the game and write it based on the game and stop being lazy
While I do agree, its a little like comparing apples to oranges. Halo has tons of story game content and a million books to flesh out the world while lol has only multi-player games with very little emphasis on the world or story so they had a ton of artistic license to change whatever they wanted. (And they changed basically everything about the established lore of the characters even if it wasn't alot.)
You didn't even mention how part of a Spartan's armor is a nutrient drip, a catheter, and a colonoscopy bag, because they never have to take it off. Sets the mood quite like removing two of those.
What sucks so much about the "random guy on a random asteroid" is that its a real character from the books that they have spit on. In the books, that character is a Jackal... which would have made more sense than a random human who was a covie prisoner.
@@WolfyboiRTCT dont get me wrong, im glad they are getting into the morally ambiguous stuff of the UNSC, but that feels more like a season 3 plot point more so than a season 1 plot. Season 1 should have established the UNSC as the good guys with John being their super badass head spartan person. Season 2 then gets into more of the politics of the UNSC cintrasted by the Covenant, then season 3 does a huge left hook and shows just how bad the UNSC really is and makes you question who the good guys really are. I just gave a better plot for 3 seasons over the 1 horrible plot they have for 1. I sure hope they listen to fans and season 2 is acctually better... but i dont have high expectations anymore.
@@skythesuperintendent897 yet even knowing what the UNSC and ONI did it was way better than being exterminated them being a lesser evil and they actually step down after the war and being far more lenient whit world not wanting to cooperate whit them
I think many have said this already, but it's like the writers and some other had plans for another sci-fi tv show (like a Mass Effect adaptation) but they instead had to make a Halo show.
Considering how open the people making the show are about not playing the game, I wouldn't be surprised if this was some sort of contractual obligation. In which they probably didn't want to make it, but someone tied their hands
You forgot about CastleVania being also a good adaptation. But, anyway, I just feel bad for Halo fans. Like I can't really play shooters (i can play other games but due to having one arm, mouse+key games or even shooters with controller are very difficult to play for me) but i like watching Halo LPs and lore videos because i find the story really interesting. I was looking forward to being able to consume Halo content without getting cockblocked by the gameplay being inaccessible to me, but i cant say i wasnt fearing the worst. And it happened... like I may not have as much attachment to the series, but I do feel bad for those who are bigger fans.
You don't actually miss a lot by not playing the games. It largely stems from the fact that Bungie themselves were antagonistic to the release of the Halo Extended Universe. Even though 343 is embracing the Extended universe, they don't actually tie the games into the extended Universe. Halo Infinite for example, took place on one of the most lore important Halo Rings, but there was no references to the period of time where the Gravemind had control over Zeta Halo, or when Master builder Faber was experimenting on humans.
@@tylerbarse2866 they had a on and off relationship with the OG halo book writer Eric Nylund. They felt they could write better than him and brushed him to the side instead of working with him in the early 2000s
if you really wanna consume halo watch the live action trailers and the whole believe campaign they did for halo 3. Its not the same as watching a show or playing thru the games but its better than this garbage
The best part about these bad adaptations is that the executives don’t learn the right lesson. The lesson they SHOULD learn is to treat the source material with respect and make sure the showrunners and writers actually care about and understand the source material. They don’t learn this. The wrong lesson they ACTUALLY learn is that any adaptation of a video game property is unpopular and a waste of time and should never be attempted again. Which is untrue. Just make it authentic to the source material and tell a gripping and faithful story and you’re good to go. I do find it hilarious that Hitman has had two movies made and they’re both super obsessed with the backstory of Agent 47, when the appeal of the games is assassinating targets. If they made a movie that focused on Agent 47 infiltrating locations and assassinating targets and didn’t even have much of an overarching plot, it would probably be better received by fans than either existing Hitman movie. Hitman fans like Hitman games because it’s about assassinating somebody and escaping undetected.
I even watched the first hitman just an hour ago, it was really good at first when they had him store weapons I the ice chest and do stuff like the games, but then they HAD to have him fuck and he just turned into generic action guy 72
@@StarHunter28 I noticed a few clever nods to the games, but I didn’t really like any of the movie. I’d prefer a thriller akin to the film “The Day of the Jackal” than an action movie.
I dont get why they dont just make an animated series with all the money they spend. Cinematics of games are what we love! Halo 3 Cinematic was amazing!
@@SB-dc5on They don’t want to invest more than they have to. They need to pay the hard working execs as much as they can while spending as little everywhere else.
@UCgy55k0mFVdte_J1jSPkAOg ikr red v blue was a banger, they should’ve gotten the guys at Rooster Teeth to write this show. Hell, even a live action red v blue would be better
"A Game of Halo" "Halo: John Van Helsing" "John 117: Spartan Gigolo" "The Halo Chronicles" "Master Cheeks: Busty Alien Hoes 5" Alternative titles to the Halo show.
I’d love to see a band of brothers style halo show from the perspective of either ODSTs or basic marines. You could have this grounded military drama for the start of it and show the stages of training then nearer the end or in later seasons you could introduce Spartans as these inhuman killing machines that just decimate everything in their way. It would really serve to show how much of a threat the covenant are and also how powerful Spartans are in comparison to the human foot soldiers.
But then how will they draw in free viewership with character recognition. Also they need to fulfill their desire to spit on long time fans and create a terrible first impression of the franchise for everyone who hasn't played the games.
i think a series following edward buck could work really well. bring nathan fillion in and follow the character from (roughly) the start of his career, the fall of reach, the events of ODST, and either cut it off at the end of the covenant war or show him becoming a spartan and take on the challenge of adapting the reclaimer saga
Thank God someone finally talked about this. Me and my friends have always played halo since reach and my god we all agreed that the halo movie takes all the lore and story and just shits on it. Like come on halo has so much story to work off of and they are deliberately saying fuck you were making it into a cash cow for people who don't know about it and you can sit there and watch us do it... It hurts to watch something that gave me so much joy and helped me make my first few friends be ruined
He's totally right- the problem is that there needs be a process so that these people, who likely aren't taking the time to understand what people like about videogames, can pick out the crucial elements from the story that makes people connect with them, and include them in the show- along with identifying the elements that NEED to make their way onto the production as a service to the property (like Charlie mentions in the video), and to the fans who already have a connection with the property. Ruining these sucks for the consumer, it's like watching companies set fire to your favorite brands. Also, LOL'd when he said 'master cheeks'
It’s honestly so tragic that they decided to go this way with the show. I understand that they don’t want to copy the story from the games, but they could have improved or even added to the original stories in new interesting ways. I would’ve have been blown away with a halo show that starts like Combat Evolved, but touches on John’s humanity like in Halo 4. Combine that with a side plot with Johnson and some marines just trying to survive on the ring would be interesting, and give that normal soldier perspective with the jokes, and comic relief of the marines. All they needed to do was change a few things from the games to make an interesting and “new” halo show.
2 года назад
I actually think the moist meter would shatter on this one. Might need to bust out the Dryness Detector, the Barren Barometer, or the Parched Protractor
I decided against watching the show when I found out they know nothing about the games and decided to remove the chiefs helmet. Master chief being faceless is what part of what made him so iconic, and the fact these dunces decided to show his face In the first fucking episode ruining years of mystery is so fucking ridiculous and disrespectful.
This, especially after Mandalorian went through so much of the show with the main character in a helmet, proving face shots aren't needed, there's just no excuse for this travesty
Come on how does Charlie not know yet that the creator of the Halo show did in fact play all the games, but he never felt limited to just their stories, he said so on twitter...that said, I genuinely just dont think he cares, regardless. Its worth clarifying because I hate misinformation but this is not a defence of the show.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Just because he said so, doesn't mean he did. Don't believe everything someone says in a panic when the shit storm suddenly rolls over them for being pisspoor in their job and work ethic.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 "Halo showrunner Steven Kane explains that, when developing the show for Paramount+, they didn't even look at or talk about the video games." In all fairness, it didn't mention anything about actually playing the games, but the end result is that the games were completely disregarded.
That’s why as a Sonic fan, I’m happy that the director and team involved want to honor the series, the characters and lore and it’s not another cash grab video game movie franchise like Halo
It’s even better when you realise that Jeff Fowler (the director of the movies) has already worked on the franchise in the past. He helped make the CGI cutscenes for Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06.
I had to suffer through this when I went back to my hometown recently. My friends there have gotten into the show and are adamant that it's actually good. I just smiled and cringed through it because I wanted to enjoy being around my friends for the first time in nearly a year. But why of all shows did they choose this trainwreck to get into?
I know no one’s ever gonna see this, but they could have honestly done such a good job with this, follow the storyline of Halo but then you have the downtime, the time where we’re not in combat, and they could have used that to show hey Master Chief has some demons, he has some ptsd, he has problems and he’s still human in there despite being an unstoppable force on the battlefield. Looks all calm and collected on the outside when in combat and as a symbol, but you could showcase some issues behind the scenes and people would actually care about it.
I wanted to give a chance to this show. But man, Charlie has said everything I had stuck in my throat regarding to this whole thing. One can watch this series and relatively get invested in the narrative but only if you enjoy human drama and don’t know much about Halo. The main thing I think this show gets wrong is the wrongful notion that Halo is not exclusively a story about Master Chief. One would be wrong to assume that the, for example, the X-Men comics are a story that only revolves around Wolverine. Master Chief may be the protagonist oh Halo, but only because he is the player character. On the overall narrative of the universe, Chief is only a small (and in fact, not even the most important) part of the whole. This series attempts to elevate him to some sort of superhero status, implying that he is some sort of chosen one, therefore justifying how deep we are going into is personal life and his identity. While the Master Chief from the games acquired his legendary status through nothing but hard work, determination, personal sacrifices, and a really big dose of luck, leaving the viewer plenty of room to wonder who exactly is Master Chief. And the best way of knowing who he is was by analyzing his impact on others! The covenant who fears him, the unsc who praises him as a hero, the insurrectionists who hate him and all the Spartans, the arbiter who respects him, and Cortana who loves him. It’s an elegant narrative solution that invites the viewer to know more about the narrative universe and respects the intelligence of the audience. In fact, dare I say that if Kwan Ha was the protagonist of the series and Master Chief acted as some sort of mentor of father figure to her, kinda like he was to Lasky in Forward Unto Dawn and Brohammer in Halo Infinite, that would be a much better story.
Well said. Chief is just a guy doing his job and/or what he is told to do because, as bdg from his halo book video said, "chief is happiest when he is given a goal". Deep down, he's just an average 9 to 5 worker. Out here to do his job the best way he can.
Kwan (and little Keyes) act way to much like spoiled brats for me to like either character. Kwan didn't exist at all in the Halo universe and now we're supposed to just accept her as some sort of protector of the Halo rings?!? Her screen time rivals Chief's ffs.
that's one thing that I keep seeing that I hate with the desecration of beloved media. For some reason they feel the need to turn the main character into some special chosen one.
The guy that plays chief is actually a really good actor and was amazing in the wire. I'm sure with the right creators/writers/directors he would have done fine
I remember reading as short story about chief in New Mombasa, he actually met a childhood friend from his life before the spartans. He didn't tell her, he didn't see the need. His home planet was glassed long ago, the woman in front of him had almost nothing to do with the man he is now. He was comfortable with his military life, he even thanked Halsey a few times in the books. He was given a purpose. He knew what had to be done. He knew his past, and he determined it to be irrelevant to who he was. That was so much more powerful than this TV garbage, it felt real. You knew he had been wronged, as did the chief, yet he didn't dwell on it. It was morally grey, it was awesome. I miss Halo when the people making it gave a shit about it.
There's a parallel universe out there where this show begins with the Pillar of Autumn arriving at Halo and Chief has to help the almost doomed crew of that ship after they crash land in the ring world. There's also a wise cracking badass Sargent with a cigar and sudden unexpected parasite horror half way in. This show was a huge success in this parallel world because it reached a broader audience and didn't deviate from the source material.
This particular franchise should have had a TV show that was complimentary to the games. The games themselves are the centerpiece. We have an established universe that is ripe for new and creative stories. We've seen this done with spin-off games like ODST and Reach and with books. The TV series needed to be something like that. Also, I don't think Halo needed a 1:1 remake of the Master Chief story, which is what I saw some people arguing. To me, adaptations like that are for properties where there is little to no cinematography involved. That's why book adaptations work. It's like experiencing the same story for the first time. Halo has a lot of cinematography in its games already. I think a 1:1 remake would've felt flat and the only difference would be that we weren't in control of Chief. What it needed was a show that did not center the story around Master Chief or his story. He could make an appearance, but that's as far as I would go.
Bro that’s not an argument for halo that has an intriguing naturally cool story that adds a horror element half way through. Like there is no reason to cheapen the mystery of halo and the flood reveal by making up a bunch of worse bullshit. Now you could make halo CE a full on adaption and make that season 2 or 3 then start the show with Noble team from halo reach. That story is much more general as the main beats of how they lose reach can stay the same while many scenarios could lead to them and there you could get creative but halo CE is too perfectly set up to be changed it’s the entire cornerstone of the franchise. That part simply needs to be adapted however they could do an amazing job in adding the perspectives of the arbiter during that time. They could show high charity and tease the brutes bit. Change the delivery of certain information for characters like guilty spark so it’s a bit less exposition. People think freedom is what helps creativity but restrictions do just as much to maintain the identity of an established world. To disregard those is why we get this dogshit. Some things do need to stay the same
I always wondered, why don't the same people who work on cutscenes/trailers for video games actually make a movie using those same graphics? I understand it would take a lot of work, time, and money but I'm sure a lot of fans of said video games would love to watch those movies
Work time and money is the reason, there's not much else to it. Blur, the guys that did the Halo 2 Anniversary and Halo Wars cutscenes can cost a few hundred thousand dollars per minute of film. The halo show had a budget of 10 million for the season.
because different forms of media have different production companies for them. commercial and trailer companies dont mingle with professional writers for thier products, and even if those old live action halo commercials were awesome they were just that. commercials.
@@atzangray-dorito9004 I'm not talking about the live action commercials. I'm talking about cutscenes in video games, or game trailers with great graphics. Imagine if a movie was made with those same graphics. Like go watch the halo 2 anniversary cutscenes. It looks like a great movie on its own.
"Cortana watch Masterchief have s*x" that's fucking *vile* it's been a longass time since i've played any Halo-game, but even i feel offended by that i stopped playing Halo since Halo 3 back in middle-school, i never quite got that much into the lore and it's story, i mostly played it to teabag other kids and warn them i'd come for their mom, but even as a dumb kid who thought romantic things were icky-eww, i was still vaguely shipping her with Masterchief. i played a lot of Halo-3 and i don't remember having ever met someone who didn't ship them together, it was like "Full-Metal Alchemist" with Riza and Roy, never confirmed or sailed (to my knowledge) but everyone and their grandma were on that ship, it was like noah's ark. that's like the best middle-finger to any Halo-fans they could have done, with turning Masterchief into a pussy, and showing his face. it's incredible, they did the three WORST-THINGS they could have possibly donee with the setting and characters.
@C mac 55th street Undertale was fine tho', it was just a indie-RPG very reminescent of Earthbound, it's just the fanbase that is unsufferable, but the game itself is pretty okay. also "good franchise", yeah no, anything after Halo 3 was shit and you know it, don't fool yourself. i played ODST until it's end and it was kinda lukewarm at best, and everything else was shit apparently if you listened to the mediatic backclash they all had. the only interesting thing that came out of it was "Halo: Infinite" apparently, and to me it look just like a regular FPS with a hook and a open-world. on another note, you saw some dude with a pfp of a game you don't like, started sweating, and immediately jumped on keyboard, Undertale isn't the type of game i'm usually playing, i mostly play Strategy and Simulation games as Total-War and Rimworld. that pfp i took like years ago and never bothered to change it. what's the cringiest, being a fan of a franchise that's been dying for decades and playing keyboard-warrior online about it, or liking one-game and being done with it?
This is truly a slap on the face to the Halo Franchise. The Halo games are one of the few FPS games where the focus is on the story in a fantastical world with some very fleshed out world building through other media and the games And Paramount just decided to slap the Halo brand to a show that has literally nothing with that world. Just taking the names and doing whatever they want with the characters. If X character's defining character is Y, you can't just throw Y out and still use that name as it's literally not X character anymore. It's something else. That's exactly the case with John Halo rn and it's so frustrating. In the games, Master Chief takes out his helmet only twice and you never see what's underneath the helmet, whereas in the show he wears the helmet less than he shows his face. There's no need to introduce a face to a character as iconic as Master Chief in fact he's one of the most prolific examples of the fact of not needing to show a face to represent your protagonist The hype was real during the first announcement, and it's just been a trainwreck after. Fuck execs who spit on video games thinking "They can do it better than just a video game"
They should have just made up a entire squad of spartans so that way they could make the characters do and say whatever without ruining pre existing characters
I firmly believe the Halo show started out as a script for a generic sci fi movie and then Paramount picked it up and made the deal with 343 so they tweaked it to kinda fit Halo without starting over
Most video game movies may suck, but despite that there are many video game shows that are really good. Castlevania, Arcane, Kirby Right Back At Ya, and Sonic Boom to name a few. So I'd say the Halo show's existence is an insult of all of what I just listed.
Castlevania even improved on characters from the original games (Isaac) by making them different, the "halo" show just... Why didnt they play the games
To be honest I except chief to talk less, calculated and just being chill and just being serious all the time like Din Djarin in Mandalorians. But we got a emotionally unstable chief, with a questionable actions like banging a someone, and acting dumb in the entire show and poorly made character arc and story.
I read a tweet about how MC taking off his helmet humanizes him to people that don’t know his story, well the people playing the game didn’t see his face till the fall of reach animated movie and we loved it so much paramount decided to make a shitty tv series… Chief isn’t a person, he’s a legend. We *shouldnt* be relating to the greatest spartan ever. It’s so dissatisfying
how are you supposed to relate to a 7 foot super-soldier with biological enhancements who was kidnapped from his family, indoctrinated into the military and killed 4 men in a sparring match when he was 14 anyways?
@@delusion5867 by showing how he tries to cope with that reality he lives in, like the books do. And you know what it works and puts the show to shame. Not even against him removing his helmet because he does in the books but the show does a pathetic job at trying to humanize him and they're clearly leaning hard into thinking showing his face is enough to do that
Lol i love how you summed up the series. You saved me from watching a single episodes. Clips and your awesome detailed review is all i needed to quell my miniscule amount of interest. Anyway man i have followed you for a long time, even watched you as a teen. I really hope you are living your best life and you deserve the best. Chances are you can't read all your comments but still maybe someday youll stumble on it. Just know i watch just about every video you post, not because im a weird fanboy, but because you genuinely sound like me irl and you're the most down to earth yter.
All super old fandoms that will gatekeep anything to do with their franchises. Rings of Power did look ass though from what I’ve heard. Still though, even if something good came out, people would still be like “The Rings were 2inches too big in diameter” or “Ewen McGregor performed better in EP3.”. These fandoms are partly responsible for better studios NOT wanting to rightfully adapt said stories but they know fans will these them apart without a word.
Forgiveness is always available to you, Charlie. You're the golden boy of youtube, the moist newsman, the shitposter of truth. You will always have our trust!
What I hate most is you have these absolute clowns on Reddit on the halo subreddits defending and praising the series I can’t even be a part of the fan base of a game I’ve grown up with thanks to these idiots They’re main arguments are either “it’s not canon” or “you can’t have an opinion because you haven’t watched it fully” A. Canon or not isn’t the issue, it’s the fact they’re disrespecting the lore and the characters that’s why it sucks B. Why should I watch something I know I’m going to hate?
The Sonic movie 1 & 2 is the only exception to being a video game adaptation and actually being good/ made by people who genuinely care about what they’re making
