Forgotten Batman Villains: The Wrath 

The Wrath looks like the kind of thing someone would design if they wanted to draw/write Batman comic books, but don't want to get sued.

It's a shame. Everyone forgets Killer Moth is the original Anti-Batman, but everu one forgets that and ever since then we have gotten tons of other Anti-Batmen... I wonder what would have happened if they kept Moth as the Sole Anti-Batman

I think The Wrath is pretty cool and him having his own Robin (Scorn) is a cool idea too but out of all the "Anti-Batman" characters that have sprung up I find him the least interesting. Prometheus is essentially a better Wrath and a much bigger threat as he's essentially a one man army (the guy took out the entire Justice League for crying out loud), Hush is more of a dark reflection of Bruce Wayne then Bats but that's pretty interesting on it's own and Killer Moth was the original Anti-Batman who, I think did the concept the best, coming to the aid of criminals like an actual reverse Batman and doing so for both greed and competition with Batman. I find all of these characters to be more eye-catching then Wrath. Overall I think Killer Moth is the best Anti-Batman for the reasons I said previously. I also gotta give him plenty of pity points seeing how much he's been shit on over the years and in despite of how much he had going for him. Mothy really seemed like he was being set up to be one of Batman's greatest enemies, a dark (yet obscenely colorful looking) reflection of Batman who undoes all of the work the caped crusader has done for profit and to make a point is a concept to good to shit on.

There is no evil batman because batman already looks villainous, joker is batman' true opposite because he is a loud and bright clown. In a way batman looks more evil than joker

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I would like to see the best of Black Mask. We already got a bunch of videos on Manbat. How about we talk about some good Black Mask stories.

What if Hush and Wrath Teamed up to Fight the Two Sides of Batman in a Psychological warfare scheme.

I think the reason why Reverse Flash and Bizarro work so well while characters like Wrath don't stick around is because they're dark reflections of bright, hopeful heroes. Batman is already dark and brooding, and you can't really corrupt darkness with more darkness.

The Wrath seems like a prototype version of Prometheus

I think that the true opposite of Batman is Man Bat ! He is a monstrous version of the Dark Knight just like Bizarro is a monster parody of The Man of Steel! Definitely would love a history of Man Bat! Your channel has been brilliant! I think you are right to only cover what you enjoy! The videos you make are always insightful and bring these stories and characters back to life! I will continue to be a fan! Your Reviews are always worth the wait!

This was a good video. Could you possibly make a video on Zebra Man, I thought of him as a really cool villain as a kid.

Even Batman's forgotten Villans are better than most of other Heroes Villains.

I remember hearing about Wrath in 2004’s _The Batman’s_ fifth season. And for years, I’ve wanted them to bring him back.

Every time you upload a video, I know I'm in for an enjoyable experience. You raise a good point about the Dark Mirror Batman villains and how they've never caught on, I guess there just isn't much of a demand for those kinds of villains in Bruce's corner of the DCU. While the Wrath is probably the best Ant-Batman in a technical sense, I've always had a soft-spot for Prometheus though I personally consider him more of Justice League villain. Kudos on your redesign idea too. I'm sorry to hear about the stress, Please take as much time as you need and upload whenever you wish. Your videos are worth the wait, at least to me. I'm also sorry you didn't get as many reviews as you've hoped but I am looking forward to your videos on the TV rogues. To answer your Top 5 question, I'd have to say Black Mask, mainly because I'm curious of what they'd be.

The one in the animated series also ended up figuring out Batman's identity.

I loved that story. I wished they'd rounded him out a little more out of costume.

Man-Bat as I don’t know too many other villains in the series aside from the usual ones

I've been reading your book and have been enjoying it so far. I look forward to finishing and reviewing it. Also, I vote for Black Mask!

I liked Wrath in ‘The Batman’, it was a cool adaptation. But nobody can replace Killer Moth.

I don’t really care when or how often your stuff comes out, you’re one of my favorite channels on RU-vid. I’m looking forward to the gotham and 66 batman lists you mentioned, but your btas episodes are also great, and in general just the amount of thought you put into all of this. If you ever wake up and find you only have one subscriber, it’ll be me. Be well and keep it up, you do great work

I've always had a soft spot for the Wrath since he is motivated by a mirror tragedy to Bruce. The problem is the comics always had Wrath just be a gun nut who had a hate on for cops. To mirror Batman, just have Wrath also be an innocent kid who lost his loving family to crime. Gotham has a long history of crooked cops so Wrath could have been the DC's version of the Punisher. I even wrote a fanfic just on that premise.

the only problem with a red batman wrath is that batman isn't really blue anymore.

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Maybe if acted like Superman in public, but had the moral compass of The Joker it would work. Reversing Batman's Rule of Fear with a Compassionate Bear trap. That could work nicely and it wouldn't be immediately obvious the guy was evil, then it would be a nice twist. Assassin vs Detective , Planning tragedies or murders while Batman solves them. A bit weak, but usable . Ras' A Ghoul already does this , so not a strong option. Reversing the Color scheme , This could actually work with the reverse mentality. Using colors that invoke feelings of trust and friendship rather than fear and intimidation.

You do you. You're absolutely right if this isn't a job you have no need to push yourself to the breaking point. I would love to see the best black mask stories next. Be well.

Do Mortimer cadaver And the dark nights are anti batsmen especially the Batman who laughs

While I agree with how goofy the original Wrath outfit looks, I absolutely loved his design in the new 52!

I love the Wrath. Had he been given a different costume without the dumb W cowl, give him a red and black suit, and give him a better goal, and better motivations, and he should be a great rouge.

I think it'd be more fitting if instead of a regular cop, it was a dirty cop that killed his family. Wrath would then view the entire justice system as corrupt and dirty and him being the only one to expose and truly clean Gotham. Batman would understand his intentions but of course wouldn't approve of his means.

What about Prometheus? He's a pretty good anti-Batman.

I think the Wrath concept would be interesting if we added more nuance to it. 1. Don't make the Cop who shot his parents Gordon, let him be a non character like the Wayne's killer. 2. Don't make Wrath's parents criminals, make them innocents shot wrongly, that would make the story sympathetic and a real challenge to Batman ideologically. 3. And this would be the biggest controversy of my idea. Make Wrath and his Parents Black, make this a villain created by systemic Racism.

Two reasons why I think the Wrath (or any Anti-Batman for that matter) never really caught on: 1) Batman already has the most popular cast of villains in all of comics, that Wrath simply gets lost amongst the crowd. 2) His origin is way to obvious. Sure Reverse Flash/Professor Zoom has the exact power set as Flash, but his origin is completely different. Zoom was a Flash fanatic from the future who had a mental breakdown after discovering he’s destined to become a villain to his idol.

Batman's mirror image would also be a billionaire vigilante hero. But one who is well adjusted, and has a great sense of humor. Basically, Spider-Man from the Parker Industries period.

Purple and red totally go together! just look at magneto. Doctor Bong is also a good example of it used in a comedic villain. Honestly I am surprised it isn't used more often with how aesthetically pleasing those colors look together. The problem with Wrath is that the colors are distributed in a awkward manner that along with the design draws ones eyes towards his crotch. Also the W is very goofy looking.

I like the contrast between the original Wrath and Batman. Bruce's parents were innocent people needlessly killed by a mugger or a hitman who made the hit look like a mugging depending which version of Joe Chill it is and what continuity he's in. Whereas The Wrath's parents were evil criminals deservedly killed in self defence by Gordon. And while Bruce swore to stop what happened to him from ever happening to anyone else ever again The Wrath decided to kill Gordon even though his parents would have killed Gordon if Jim hadn't killed them which suggests Wrath was evil even before his parents got killed.

I think you’re spot on about how Batman has so many opposites, but none are truly reversals, and yeah, his costume should look how you said. For the next top five, let’s have Man-Bat

Again, I am honestly CRUSHED by the decision to abandon the Batman T.V. Villains idea...but I understand the decision, and this IS your channel, so I will not force the issue myself. I AM looking forward to seeing who your ten favorite villains from the 60s show will be, however; I'm actually looking forward to that more than I am to a video on Gotham. Again, the 60s Villains and I go way back. XD I do want to warn you that with at least a few of the more recurring foes - such as Penguin, Joker, and Catwoman - you may want to watch more than one episode before you cover them. I say this because all three of them, along with a couple of others, actually evolved a lot over the course of the show, in terms of performance. If you want, I can actually suggest a few key episodes/stories to look at, if you like, just so you don't have to watch every single bloody episode those characters appeared in. But, since you may or may not want to do that anyway, that's up to you. (shrugs) While I am also sorry to hear you'll be abandoning a particular schedule, I actually completely agree with your reasoning, and once more understand. Just don't LEAVE, that's all I ask; your channel is one of my favorites, and I always look forward to your next bit of content here. XD NOW! In regards to the Wrath: I knew about this guy from The Batman, but I didn't even know he was a comic book villain, too! So this was a pleasant learning experience. I have to admit, I think I agree with a lot of your comments and ideas - I guess if I had to choose an "anti-Batman" I'd go with, it would probably be Owlman, but Wrath might be a close second. Your idea of a red-cloaked Batman as an alternate costume is interesting, too. Part of me says that would be too simple, but, to be fair, it's not like the Reverse-Flash has an especially complex costume, so... (shrugs) As far as a top five stories list...even though I prefer Man-Bat slightly as a character, I'm going to vote on Black Mask. Why? Simply because I actually haven't read very much of anything with Black Mask; he's yet another case of a character I know more about from other media than the comics themselves. Your lists always give me great "recommended reading" material to turn to. XD

i always thought Prometheus was a modern re-interpretation of Wraith.

I like the way they make these evil twins to a certain DC hero Bizarro : Superman Reverse Flash : Flash Aqua Beast : Aqua man Wrath : Batman Red Volcano : Red Tornado

I actually really like wraths design

I choose Man Bat. Great video, btw. I had never even heard of Wrath before, and I thought I knew a thing or two about obscure bat-rogues.

Dedicating your life to offing police officers because one killed one's parents doesn't sound so absurd to me. Not because I think living life by such a twisted purpose is sane. Because it's happening right now, in a more subdued form, in the United States. The enmity between underprivileged neighborhoods and overworked police corps is at an all time high. Racial tension and mutual suspicion can infuse violence into any road stop. The notable cases of enforcement overstep reach national news and cause riots. And retaliatory killings happen, too:officers slain by psycho "agents of justice." With less cornball "red versus blue" and a touch of close-to-the-bone circumstances, the Wrath could have an uncomfortable--and great--revival. Just an idea.

this guy should have been arkham knight

You could've gone with the colour white to emphasize the term "white hot rage" visually, as well as juxtapose batman's dark and evil look

I like The Wrath's design & The Wrath should be the main supervillain in a Batman movie.

If you want a really obscure bat rogue, look up “Moon of the wolf” with villain Anthony Lupus, if I’m not mistaken he only appeared on one comic as a werewolf. It was written by Len Wein and I think illustrated by Carmine Infantino, but the story is very well written and drawn for a comic from 1971.

Besides, the Reverse Batman is Catwoman.

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I love Wrath because he is better than Prometheus. Mainly he doesn’t heavily rely on technology like Prometheus and Wrath’s has better reasons to be Batman’s opposite because his origins mirrors Bruce’s, especially when his parents deaths took place on the same night as Thomas and Martha Wayne’s murder. I actually like the W as part of his cowl as a mockery of Batman’s suit. And the sense he sees a kindred spirit in The Dark Knight, when he figures out his identity and that they both witnessed their parents gunned down, but took different paths on how to deal with it. If he were modernised and tweaked a bit, he could become one of Batman’s Greatest Enemies!

Don't get me wrong, this is a great video with lots of good info, but I feel like you missed the connection to Year One. In Year One James Gordon is back in Gotham after working in Chicago for 10 years. The reason why he was sent off to Chicago in the first place was because the original Wrath's dad was a crooked cop who was committing a crime when Gordon stumbled across him and shot him in self defense. This was all retconned in Wrath Child. These Wrath comics are some of my favorite Batman stories because of this clever retcon that connects these stories to Year One without contradicting any other stories.

Don’t dig his looks, don’t dig his motivations, don’t dig his origins. I’m very picky when it comes to villains who are suppose to be evil versions of the hero. And wrath really doesn’t meet my criteria at all. I don’t really think Batman needs a mirror match in his rouges anyhow.

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The Wrath was a great character, but the retcon in Batman Confidential where he was a copycat rather than someone who developed a nearly identical persona parallel to Batman kinda ruined him. Originally, he was Batman's opposite number, not his copycat. I have no idea why the Batman Confidential issues chose to change that.

He markets himself as the evil version of Batman, has a big W as part of his livery. Wrath, my arse! He's Wario! Or possibly Watman.

There is one comic book I have where there is some sort of Batman from Hell called "The Third Man". He burns the police headquarters and kills Batman, but Batman summons Zur En Arrh and Bat-Mite kind of freaks out. I read it when I was eight or something, and the whole thing kind of weirded me out.

Did Grant Morrison rip this off for Prometheus’s origin.

So wrath is prometheus with a slightly better costume?

I bought the original wrath story way back in the day, and was always surprised this cool never returned. Thanks for covering him!

Prometheus seems to be the most successful Anti-Batman villain. Plus he is a Justice League enemy as well. Arrow also helped to popularise the character. And finally I think Black Mask is suitable for a Underrated Batman villain video because he's not really forgotten.

0:40 - The wrath's stories 4:00 - Rogue's opinion

I never liked the idea that Wrath should just be the bat costume with different colours, with Bizzaro and Reverse Flash it makes sense since one is a litteral clone of superman, and the other wanted to be the flash, but Wrath dosent want to be the Reverse batman, he wants to mock him sure, but he's still his own Thing and therefor i believe he should look the part aswell

Great video, sorry this channel was stressing you, anyway out of the two options do Black Mask next just take your time!

I vote for Man-Bat

Gotham Rogues, I have a character for a Forgotten Batman Villains episode. His name is The Gong, a bell-based villain. I thought you'd find him interesting since he literally only appears in ONE COMIC. anyways, have a nice day!

I like wrath a true oppsite of batman i never read any of his comics i liked him in the batman.

1 love your design idea for him the red is a great concept but I feel the grey should be dark grey a pose to batman's light grey a (maybe even a purple symbol and belt to match Bruce's yellow) 2 sorry about the book I couldn't buy it for myself as I'm tight on cash at the moment but I still plan on getting it when I get the money 3 glad you'll still do the tv villains even if it is just 2 videos I'm wondering who you see as the major villains 4 take your time quality of quantity(although do you consider your comic reviews as a main series as you didn't mention it) 5 black mask(I'm using him in as a villain in my fan fir and want to get his personality down) Damn I had a lot to say this time

The wrath look identical to Batman suit

I have an idea, in regards to Wrath's colour scheme. In an earlier video you stated that your favourite colour scheme for Batman is all black, with some dark blue shading. How about for Wrath's colour scheme he wears an all white outfit with some dark red shading?

Good one

Well Owlman is close to be an anti-batman.

Definitely think _The Batman's_ version of Wrath is probably the best take on an Anti-Batman without making him a _literal_ evil Batman like Owlman or The Batman who Talks. He's the perfect amalgamation of traits from the other Anti Batmen: -The costume design and backstory of the source material, which is a good corruption of the Caped Crusader's backstory while providing a good explanation of his code of ethics. -The color scheme of Catman, which contrasts quite well against Batman's more muted ensemble. And it works especially well in the depictions of Batman with a blue cape/cowl, since it provides a classic color contrast. -The modus operandi of Killer Moth as a protector of criminals, which is a better foil to Batman's motivations than the source material. Simply making him a serial killer with a hate boner for cops makes him have more in common with the _Punisher_ than Batman. Heck, the 2004 version expanded upon the idea by giving him his own Robin, Scorn, with a monochrome color scheme to contrast with Robin's brightly colored ensemble. Not to mention while they make it clear Mallory is nowhere near as smart or rich as Batman, he's no slacker as he's able to figure out Bruce's identity just as quicky as Batman figures his, with the Diabolic Duo raiding the Batcave later in the episode.

I love your channel bro

Batman has a dark mirror. His name is Bane

Take your time on videos bro. We will be here.

Welcome back! Sorry that you have to deal with your stress, hope you get better.

Ayy of course I remember Wrath and Scorn! They were in the finale of The Batman! In that version, Wrath was a billionaire, much like Bruce Wayne, and was even able to figure out Batman's true identity!

Wrath's origin almost sounds like owl man.

Wrath is an awesome batman rogue

I have the batman special comic and apparently you have a few things wrong, The mob queen’s name is Grail Hudson, and apparently she and the wrath were in a relationship.

Black Mask. Take care man.

In regards to doppelgangers in comics, would you say Sinestro is a doppelganger of Green Lantern? I mean he use to be a Green Lantern, has a colour-swapped outfit of a Green Lantern uniform, and possesses the same abilities of the Green Lantern e.g. the ring. Also would the basic requirements of being a doppelganger would be this? - A doppelganger must have the same abilities as it's original counterpart. - A doppelganger must look like a twisted version of the hero e.g. deformity, opposite colour scheme, imperfect clone, etc. - A doppelganger must be almost identical to the hero but different in one area; villains that share similarities with their heroes do not count, as they have enough differences in their design and personality to be separate entities.

For me, a more modern version of Wrath’s design should be a mix of red, black, & grey tbh

Maybe the trick is for an opposite, evil, Batman is to be light rather than dark.

I read the 2nd wrath story and man did I hate it. So many different visually elements just didn’t gel with me. And I don’t wanna go back and do any deep analysis. Lmfao I gave it to a friend I think so good riddance.

Evil Anti-Universe Batman in the first Justice League cartoon had a red costume.

1:20 So...Prometheus Origin Story. He even looks like him a little Bit

You should totally make a Top Five Nightwing Villains.

Gotham Series Finally is in Winter 13 Episodes. I would like to see Black Mask. #SaveLucifer I'm glad your back. Also, I think your Complete History of videos are so good, they could be a TV Show 😊👍

I think I'll make a fan art of your wrath idea

I feel like Jason Tood should/should have adopted the Wrath persona

So this guy has the same origin as Prometheus?

Wasn't Wrath in The Batman with a sidekick called Scorn?

Ngl it was pretty cool to have him appear in The Batman 2002

Ngl it was pretty cool to have him appear in The Batman 2002

Man-Bat

Not very popular among Batman villains, huh?

A batman wannabe

OK

Btw I vote for top 5 man bat stories