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Forgotten History of Britain 4: Sir William Flinders Petrie and Britain's forgotten past 

Adrian Gilbert
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Sir William Flinders Petrie, known as the 'father' of modern archaeology, was the first Professor of Egyptology and Philology in the world. He was a figure of towering, academic eminence when, in 1917, he delivered a lecture at the British Academy, of which he was a Fellow. This lecture had nothing to do with Egyptology but was titled: 'Neglected British History'. By this he meant early Welsh History, which is to say British from before the Roman and Anglo-Saxon invasions. His audience was likely shocked when he produced as evidence a document called 'The Brut Tysilio', which had actually been published in English translation (from Welsh) over a century earlier. Read carefully, it is the 'silver bullet' that kills critics of Geoffrey of Monmouth who call him a fraud and the inventor of a pseudo-history that can be ignored.
In this programme we explore both the provenance of the Brut Tysilio as well as Petrie's brilliant analysis. I will also add some other evidence provided as footnotes in the translation of the text done in 1806.
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If you would like to download Petrie's paper, it can be found at:
archive.org/details/neglected...
It is also available at other places on the internet.
If you would like to download the Brut Tysilio, you will find it at:
archive.org/stream/bub_gb_Mso...
Thank you for your interest, I hope you enjoy the programme. Adrian Gilbert.

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Комментарии : 10   
@suzylogan3524
@suzylogan3524 5 месяцев назад
I am really enjoying this series. Thanks so much.
@nigeltdavies
@nigeltdavies 6 месяцев назад
Very well presented again, the time and effort you are putting into Welsh/British history is very much appreciated. Thanks!
@wendyharrap8771
@wendyharrap8771 6 месяцев назад
Another fascinating talk Adrian, thank you! Interesting that the early Brits/Welsh passed on information with the rhythm of songs and poetry and still do today with Esteddfords.
@markhughes7927
@markhughes7927 6 месяцев назад
1:04:30 …guessing that part of chariot use would have been a lightweight wicker shield facing the wall of fire to take out the force of arrows and sling shot while ‘wheel-mowing’ - same as today canopies are appearing above personnel-carriers and lighter motorised artillery being used in Ukraine to defend against drone-fire…..also 1:14:42 the idea of cleft/cleaving put against the physical iron-ore makes good suggestion for an origin of ‘the sword in the stone’..
@peterww3241
@peterww3241 6 месяцев назад
Great presentation, Adrian. Thank you! You will probably enjoy "Britain’s Forgotten Church - The Hidden Christianity of the Isles" on the "Matter of Britain" YT channel.
@AdrianGilbert1
@AdrianGilbert1 6 месяцев назад
Thannk you, I'll give it a look.
@rhysoakley9693
@rhysoakley9693 5 месяцев назад
I wonder if the sum raised for a rare manuscript actually paid for the education of the students? Selling your heritage for knowledge/advantages/survival? Only half way through and loving it, by the way. Seen previous lectures already. Great reference point for research my wife and I are currently working on. Thank you.
@AdrianGilbert1
@AdrianGilbert1 5 месяцев назад
It could be the MSS were sold for a good purpose. I don't know but can only speculate. I am glad you are enjoying the series,. Much more to come yet.
@karjay5448
@karjay5448 2 месяца назад
Great triangulation. But as an additional thought, Is it possible that Geoffrey's original Brythonic text was actually a 'bardic' version; in verse, with the 'embellishment' already embedded? The detail therein of the characters may well have substance, as the success of transmission down the generations would be far greater with (originally accurate) personification. The bonus of the nemonic tricks of association are powerful aids, but also the bards were blockbuster entertainment, telling (real) (his)stories, where crowds would hang on the high drama unfolding. If so, it may explain why there are (phonetic?) discrepancies to the dry bruts. It may also make more sense of Geoffrey's claim not to be painting gordy pictures, yet the received position seems to be that he was 'merely embellishing dry bruts' . There's an inherent contradiction if we accept his Brythonic original text was real and he was clearly diligent. In fact, his superior may well have had basic Brythonic and selected such a 'verse transcription' poetic text specifically, if the motivation was to poke the ancestral brythonic fire for Robert. Were this the case, Geoffrey may have actually been 'toning things down' into prose from verse, and his opening comments then make sense as a dig against his contemporaries' creative tendencies AND give context for the apparently 'romanticised' resultant script. As you said at the start Adrian, this would have to pass muster with a very powerful supervisor and the most powerful man in the country, who would probably have spoken early Welsh/ Brythonic as his mother's tongue. The text may have been more of a lingua franca propaganda tool for dissemination to the non Brythonic speakers i.e. the French and Anglo Saxon elites whom Robert would need to ally. Possibly even much further afield. Brythonic was likely vernacular throughout (the modern area of mainland) Britain, decreasingly in pockets surviving well into the 16th/17th century. Some old farmers are STILL aware of the tradition of counting in Brythonic, and not just in my native Cumbria, which is chock full of (undiluted) Brythonic place names. I've seen reports of 'yan, tan , tethera, methera, bimp' etc up into very recent times from Lincs and the southwest. Anglo Saxon/English was likely another elite language and the common folk spoke Brythonic widely anyway. Even in 'Saxon' and 'Danish' areas. The genetics from the big dig in E Yorks confirms a sizeable 'brit' presence in some 'Anglo Saxon' areas. Quite a few have isotopes from childhoods in Cumbria /Rhegged. Which was still very much Brythonic. They were found alongside someAnglo Saxons from the continent and people brought up locally, not in 'slave' burials. We might extrapolate this to be common across Britain combined with the language survival evidence. We also now know the brythonic genetic characteristics are common throughout Britain now, and academics are head scratching as to why Anglo Saxon and Viking genes are nowhere near as common in most areas as had been presumed. So the Brits didn't go away.
@AdrianGilbert1
@AdrianGilbert1 2 месяца назад
Well, there are many ifs and maybes. We will never know the full truth. You are right to believe that the ancient Brits did not die out in most of England. Anglicization was a much slower process and involved gradual adoption of an Anglo identity, certainly in the Southwest and North. Imho, Geoffrey and Walter had a hidden agenda that was to instruct Robert concerning his Welsh ancestry. I believe they wanted him to claim the throne for himself.In the event he preferred to support Mathilda. As to the old book, the nearest we have to it is the Brut Tysilio. This does, as you suggest, include much more colour than a simple Brut. As you say there were also poems, mostly in triadic form that bards had to lern by heart.Some of these appear to be the most ancient literature of Britain.
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