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Forgotten Streetcar Tunnels of Chicago - IT'S HISTORY 

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@oscargreig7487
@oscargreig7487 3 года назад
I have been on one of these cable cars it was relocated to New Zealand to transport tree loggers and still has the old Chicago insignia
@johnbooth9957
@johnbooth9957 3 года назад
Wow that's cool
@johnbooth9957
@johnbooth9957 3 года назад
Great video Wheeling Wv has a few tunnels
@illumencouk
@illumencouk 2 года назад
What an interesting spinoff - Any idea what the year was when the logging operation is said to have taken charge of the cable car etc?
@patrick383ironworker
@patrick383ironworker Год назад
We have some old Chicago streetcars in Wisconsin at the East Troy Electric Railroad; still operating flawlessly with passengers.
@roadmonkeytj
@roadmonkeytj Год назад
Do you have a photo of that hosted somewhere?
@HRHolm-bi6zu
@HRHolm-bi6zu 3 года назад
Having been born and initially raised in Chicago, and a 'streetcar rooter' since age 3, this naturally captured my attention. Available photos of the tunnels/portals are not that many, even with the internet. The Van Buren tunnel portals in particular are now hidden, one covered over at/by a paid-parking lot on Clinton St. (last I looked a couple years ago), and the Franklin Street portal now evidently tucked/buried inside/beneath a parking garage on that thoroughfare. There had been talk some years ago of reopening the Van Buren tunnel as a pedestrian link between Union Station and east of the river (somewhere), but like so many other Chicago transit-related projects, that idea too has evidently faded away. (That would have been quite difficult anyway with the erstwhile east portal being inside a parking garage.) This video should actually be re-edited to add how each respective portal location looks in 2021.
@jayh9529
@jayh9529 3 года назад
You should checkout jon levi channel 👍
@HRHolm-bi6zu
@HRHolm-bi6zu 3 года назад
@@jayh9529 There are a number of channels with that name in some manner or another. I looked thru a number of them, and found no video that indicated it covered this topic. Would appreciate a specific link, or the exact video title(s).
@scottconcertman3423
@scottconcertman3423 3 года назад
I wonder if the Jackson Street tunnel played any role in the Haymarket Street riot?
@HRHolm-bi6zu
@HRHolm-bi6zu 3 года назад
@@scottconcertman3423 Jackson Street tunnel? You *must* mean the Van Buren one. Was either portal near the riot site?----I sure was not aware of that. ( I'm rather dubious). And what would the existence of a streetcar tunnel have to do with a riot, anyway?
@HRHolm-bi6zu
@HRHolm-bi6zu 3 года назад
@Nolan's Innocent Wait..whaaat? What does what you say have *anything* to do with the subject shown/discussed here????? We are supposed to be talking about transit-related tunnels!
@rosaamarillo2110
@rosaamarillo2110 Год назад
‘Gene Krupa at the Panther Inn’ Crystal clear photos from another time.. love this channel.
@DOLRED
@DOLRED 3 года назад
I always wondered if the Washington St Tunnel was still there. The 2 buildings shown in the video at 4:44 are still in place at 301 W Washington. So the tunnel ramp is now part of the CTA Bus stand there!!!
@Steven_Williams
@Steven_Williams 3 года назад
Funny, I live in Chicago and also work for CDOT, and was just last week talking with a co worker about the network of tunnels that run underneath the city. A lot of these tunnels were sealed off and bulk- headed after the flood in the early 90's. Great video !
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 3 года назад
I knew about the network of tunnels beneath downtown, but never knew of the three tunnels under the river.
@pinker812
@pinker812 3 года назад
He has a video on those tunnels.
@audioidkid
@audioidkid Год назад
I used to walk them all the time designing fiber optic routes.
@WAL_DC-6B
@WAL_DC-6B 3 года назад
Hey, that's a photo of an electric trolleybus at 9:12 (used two trolley poles to access the electric current from two overhead wires). Not a diesel bus as mentioned in the narration. Chicago had at one time the largest trolleybus system in the country. The Chicago Transit Authority (CTA) last operated trolleybuses in regular service on March 31, 1973.
@FrancesBedoya89
@FrancesBedoya89 3 года назад
Born and raised Chicago and I never knew there were underground streetcar tunnels. 🤯🤯🤯🤯
@poppinpatty2507
@poppinpatty2507 2 года назад
This was a really interesting video about Chicago's tunnels. it was really nice how Ryan focused on the tunnels and didn't throw in a snappy nickname for your city like he did for mine when he referred to my city as Killadelphia.must be nice, wish Philadelphia got as much respect as Chicago does, LMAO, LMAO😀
@KatriceMetaluna
@KatriceMetaluna 3 года назад
How do we know there's not some underground villain's lair in those tunnels now?
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 3 года назад
Send rivera down there.
@timsmith7351
@timsmith7351 3 года назад
Probably lizard people lair
@hollowdonte
@hollowdonte 3 года назад
I'm homeless and live in a section trust me everyone down here aren't villains.also plenty of hidden entrances most don't know about. Most people down here are just normal people that can't afford the rent. I work at a gas station
@tangyorange6509
@tangyorange6509 3 года назад
@@hollowdonte wow that is super interesting, I hope all goes well. I’ll be downtown tomorrow so maybe I will say hi
@HANKTHEDANKEST
@HANKTHEDANKEST 2 года назад
@@hollowdonte I hope all is well with you bro. I hope you find a more permanent place to hang your hat some day.
@johndonlon1611
@johndonlon1611 3 года назад
Cool story...I remember two of these tunnels as a kid in the 1950s. They still had the tracks in them but were unused and had cyclone fences and concrete blocks in their entryways.
@chriscohlmeyer4735
@chriscohlmeyer4735 3 года назад
Yup, I recall seeing those entrances as well. Lots of different things have been part of Chicago's transportation history.
@pensfan044
@pensfan044 3 года назад
There are a series of old canal tunnels built in the 1800s underneath Pittsburgh, PA. Built by the Pennsylvania Main Line of Works, the Pennsylvania Canal Tunnel connected the various canal companies to the three rivers at various points, as well as a series of aqueducts (basically “canal bridges”). They were eventually abandoned when railways took off and canals fell out of favor. They laid sealed off and abandoned until the 1960s when US Steel Tower was being constructed downtown and the workers digging the foundations dug into them. But their story doesn’t stop there. Pittsburgh’s subway and streetcar network (known locally as “the T”) would eventually reuse portions of them, making them some of the oldest tunnels still in use today.
@DeadAbeVigoda
@DeadAbeVigoda 3 года назад
There is one entrance known to exist. It's a manhole-within-a-manhole visible on LaSalle north of the river, about a block north of the existing down ramp. Also, a guy said he was present when a wall was knocked down in the basement of the Britannica building and he could see the old tunnel, although it was filled in with landfill.
@hoppes9658
@hoppes9658 3 года назад
Can you remember the maker of the sewer cover?
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 3 года назад
Is the whole tunnel filled in?
@danayen4806
@danayen4806 3 года назад
I played in them I remember you must be as old as I am.
@scottconcertman3423
@scottconcertman3423 3 года назад
@@hoppes9658 no doubt lawn for the Lawndale Foundry.
@hoppes9658
@hoppes9658 3 года назад
@@scottconcertman3423 I was thinking E.J.I.W. from Michigan.
@jiifigmentforever
@jiifigmentforever 3 года назад
So now I'm curious. Given that these streetcar tunnels opened in the mid-late 1800s, compared to the official opening date of the "first subway in America" in Boston as Tremont Street tunnel in 1892, does that mean Chicago actually beat Boston to the first subway? Or do these tunnels not count?
@corderajones
@corderajones 3 года назад
It’s doesn’t count because for it to be a subway it has to have a station underground
@johndavies9270
@johndavies9270 3 года назад
@@corderajones Depends on your definition of a subway. In England we sometimes use the word as a substitute for 'pedestrian underpass', and 'Underground' for a subterranean passenger railway, such as in London and Glasgow.
@robertrichard6107
@robertrichard6107 3 года назад
Chicago was home to first skyscraper, I recall. The new longer rails are nice into Union Station, no clickety clack.
@draculasbridekaren1664
@draculasbridekaren1664 3 года назад
Something's not quite right about American history, Figments. Incredibly beautiful cities seem to just spring up, practically upon the arrival of settlers, on horse drawn carts. It makes very little sense.
@OriginalChicagoKrawZ
@OriginalChicagoKrawZ 2 года назад
@@draculasbridekaren1664 it was aliens
@arkos4366
@arkos4366 3 года назад
A video on the 500mile overseas Key West Railway would be quite interesting. An astonishing feat for it's time (1912)
@wendellwhite5797
@wendellwhite5797 3 года назад
You must be talking about the Flager RR running from Jax to Key West? The Overseas RR was only about 150 miles long.
@johndavies9270
@johndavies9270 3 года назад
@@wendellwhite5797 That would be an intriguing subject - a 150 mile long railroad trestle? I've heard of the Florida & Key West; indeed one of the most amazing projects I think I've come across. A pity it was never rebuilt after that hurricane, but probably wouldn't have survived the growth of airlines.
@unnecessaryapostrophe4047
@unnecessaryapostrophe4047 3 года назад
Unnecessary apostrophe
@robertrichard6107
@robertrichard6107 3 года назад
You can enjoy seeing the old sections, and improved sections if your a passenger in a car going down to Key West and/or back.
@wendellwhite5797
@wendellwhite5797 3 года назад
@@robertrichard6107 There is the 7 mile bridge and the Bahia Honda Bridge. There are also places where you can still see the old piers from the old RR bridge. I grew up in KW, and travelled over these bridges many times getting off of the Rock as they call KW.
@thechicagorailfan9234
@thechicagorailfan9234 3 года назад
5:14 that photo was of the 69th street terminus of the Normal Park Branch. It was demolished in 1954 and is about a mile south of the Green line Ashland/63rd Branch. East of the Former C&WI tracks
@ExpoAviation
@ExpoAviation 3 года назад
Very interesting, I'd never heard of these tunnels before :)
@paraguaymike5159
@paraguaymike5159 3 года назад
Thank you for this very interesting video.
@Faded-Tales-PreviouslyHarley
@Faded-Tales-PreviouslyHarley 3 года назад
I love the 3D images you always include. Every single time I pause the video and stare until I can see the two images together. And seeing it 3D? Definitely makes it feel less like history and more like I was there. Not to mention you are fantastic with the historical information and giving facts, not exaggerated or sensational stories like many other channels do while skimping on facts and real information. Keep up the amazing work!
@marcfechtner1074
@marcfechtner1074 3 года назад
The Elroy/Sparta trails and tunnels in Wisconsin are still open to walking and biking and there is signage about its history - I would love to see more on this historic Wisconsin railroading/tunnel system. Thanks
@dodgeguyz
@dodgeguyz 3 года назад
Was just there for Memorial Day weekend. Road from Elroy to the end of the 3rd tunnel. It was very cool to see the history still there.
@inspiredwoodworks4131
@inspiredwoodworks4131 6 месяцев назад
As a youth, I biked that whole distance (Sparta all the way to Elroy) on a bmx bike. I didn’t appreciate it like I should have back then. These days, I think I’d appreciate it more, but I also think I’d have to do it in sections!🤣🤣
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 3 года назад
A piece of Chicago history that I never knew until now. Thanks for the video. 😄
@dancedecker
@dancedecker 3 года назад
Many thanks for such a great video. You asked for examples of other such tunnels and so I offer that here is still such a tram ( streetcar) tunnel that exists right in the centre of London. It's called Kingsway Subway and allowed first single and later, double decker trams to pass under the Thames to serve South London. Amazingly, one of the entrances still exists, absolutely as it did when it shut in 1950. Tracks, cobbles and the conduit system of current collection in a groove between the rails, a bit like a Scalextric car racing set. All perfectly preserved for all to see. It has been used as an art gallery, a flood defence and alarm system, ( which always somewhat amused me. A flood warning system ....underground.. erm, Have you FULLY thought this through guys...lol.). And occasionally, you can go down into it on guided tours. Fascinating and a bit like the Chicago one,full of mystery and legend. Cheers.
@reynaldodelrio1548
@reynaldodelrio1548 3 года назад
I lived here(Chicago) my entire and I had no idea lol
@chalsfo
@chalsfo 3 года назад
Nothing to See there today ?
@ITSHISTORY
@ITSHISTORY 3 года назад
I grew up in Chicago, and also didn't know about those tunnels - Ryan
@karlmadsen3179
@karlmadsen3179 3 года назад
I bet Geraldo Rivera could re-open the lost tunnels only to find there is nothing in all of them.
@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome
@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome 3 года назад
LMAO !!!
@danielthoman7324
@danielthoman7324 3 года назад
I remember that. for a couple months there was nothing but hype and Hysteria about the upcoming event. as far as I'm concerned geraldo lost all of his credibility after that. I still think about that whenever he shows up on TV.
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 3 года назад
To the contrary, Rivera is thoroughly respected for having the guts to take the risk!! No credibility was lost. Even a third grader could understand the concept.
@karlmadsen3179
@karlmadsen3179 3 года назад
@@sludge4125 My second grade education foils me again!
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 3 года назад
@@karlmadsen3179 🤪🤪🤪
@hartmutlorentzen9659
@hartmutlorentzen9659 3 года назад
A video full of information, Thanks from Germany
@tylerkochman1007
@tylerkochman1007 3 года назад
Word is the builders of 311 South Wacker had plans, originally, to repurpose the Van Buren Street tunnel as a pedway under the river, connecting their tower to Union Station.
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 3 года назад
Never knew the full story. Thanks for telling it.
@spookerredmenace3950
@spookerredmenace3950 3 года назад
love these type of channels! great video, didnt they use the tunnels in the Chris Nolan Batman movies?
@spanishstudiolanguagecente4751
@spanishstudiolanguagecente4751 3 года назад
Nope... that was Lower Wacker Drive... road beneath upper wacker drive..
@spookerredmenace3950
@spookerredmenace3950 3 года назад
@@spanishstudiolanguagecente4751 ah ok, i was also thinking where the cops were forced to stay... but cool.
@kaosworld9491
@kaosworld9491 3 года назад
@@spanishstudiolanguagecente4751 also famously use in the Blue Brothers movie for a car chase that speeds topped out at over 100 mph.
@justdrive5327
@justdrive5327 3 года назад
@@spanishstudiolanguagecente4751 Lower wacker drive technically a tunnel. You can argue it isnt because its open next to the river, but all the other street connect to Lower Wacker are tunnels
@darincochran3274
@darincochran3274 3 года назад
There is a map of a supposed tunnel under the Ohio river that goes from I think jeffersonville Indiana to Louisville Kentucky. I would love to know more about this . It was a railroad tunnel supposedly built in the mid 1850s
@frankym69
@frankym69 3 года назад
I would love to see that. I love urban exploration, but RU-vid would most likely have an issue with anything civil war related.
@michaelstephens2875
@michaelstephens2875 3 года назад
I don't know if it still exists, but under Wacker drive, from about Van Buren on the south to perhaps Lake street on the north was a vehicular tunnel running in both directions. It was lite by green light bulbs, thus called EMERALD CITY. Do you have any any info on the genesis of t his?
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 3 года назад
Lower Wacker Drive.
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn 3 года назад
this is so cool. i wish they were still here
@h.mandelene3279
@h.mandelene3279 3 года назад
You could say there was one more of this type of commuter tunnel at 10200 Roosevelt Rd. The Chicago,Aurora, and Elgin RR ran under Roosevelt Rd at this address.
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 3 года назад
I remember working on building these, it was pretty hard work.
@blakelyedwards8118
@blakelyedwards8118 2 года назад
Having been a Teamster in the '80s, backing my truck to the dock under the Chicago Tower, dodging pilons (& other trucks), folding my side mirrors in, working blind, the incredible underground Chicago is, and always has been an amazing feat of engineering in the middle of a swamp bounded by a helluva Great lake and rivers.
@worldeater08
@worldeater08 3 года назад
Great content but man you got 300k subs... Get a pop filter!
@denizalgazi
@denizalgazi 3 года назад
I've visited Chicago many times and not once have any guides mentioned these tunnels! I'd only heard of the coal tunnels. Thank you for sharing this story! 👍
@MarcAndre1
@MarcAndre1 3 года назад
The reason is they never existed. The pictures you see at the beginning are what became upper and lower Wacker Drive. The only "tunnels" under Chicago were the freight, coal and mail tunnels and they could not fit street cars.
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
@@MarcAndre1 You don't know what you are talking about. These three trolley tunnels still exist and they go under the river. I have inspected all three of these tunnels.
@Zach-lz1zh
@Zach-lz1zh 2 года назад
@@function0077 any thing i should know before trying to find a way in?
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
@@Zach-lz1zh I do not recommend trying to gain unauthorized access. You will get in a lot of legal trouble.
@vettebecker1
@vettebecker1 3 года назад
I truly wish that we never lost the use of street cars in major cities, there is something about them. Seeing them running the streets and hearing the bell, a truly lost piece of nostalgia history
@kanister21
@kanister21 3 года назад
In Germany we have them in every bigger city.
@LifeOfPACS
@LifeOfPACS 3 года назад
Toronto still has them
@randomrazr
@randomrazr Год назад
woud have made public transit more viable if they were kept. but oil companies bought them all up
@VintageSpeedwerks
@VintageSpeedwerks 3 года назад
Neat. Some more pics would make this from 7/10 to 10/10. Especially when you mentioned 2013.
@norahjaneeast5450
@norahjaneeast5450 3 года назад
I would imagine all of those tunnels must be flooded it's under a river
@comethiburs2326
@comethiburs2326 3 года назад
you could be suprised, if the asphalt layer hasnt been compromised. however it would be unsafe to breathe in them now, if they arent.
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
The tunnels are closed to the public but they are used and maintained because they have some utilities in them (e.g. fiber optic cable, steam pipes, power cables). The tunnels have automated pumps that keep them dewatered.
@RileyMacc
@RileyMacc 3 года назад
make a “kids history” channel for classes at school to watch definitely a good way to branch
@KaaimanProductions
@KaaimanProductions 3 года назад
You can actually still enter these tunnels via 3 emergency exits in buildings that were left open. The La van salle tunnel flooded am while ago around 199-something. The Washington tunnel flooded very recently in 2019. The Van buren tunnel never (has) flooded and there are lots of old trolleys, busses and wooden carriages. I even saw an entire metro carriage in the Washington tunnel.
@tangyorange6509
@tangyorange6509 3 года назад
Wow that is super interesting! I’m going downtown tomorrow and I’m really curious now about seeing these tunnels…
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
Excellent video, and I should know. I have walked and inspected every inch of the Chicago Freight and Trolley Tunnel System (CFTTS). From about 2006 to about 2010 I worked as an engineering consultant for the Chicago Department of Transportation (CDOT). The CFTTS is filled with fiber optic cable, concrete encased high voltage power lines, and steam pipes. I imagine this tunnel system will be maintained for many years to come, because it is very useful in the Chicago Loop for the aforementioned utilities. My favorite trolley tunnel is the Washington Street one, and my least favorite trolley tunnel is the Van Buren Street one. I no longer live and work in Chicago, but I have a ton of interesting and fond memories of these trolley tunnels.
@johnnelson5083
@johnnelson5083 3 года назад
Peacock Alley in Ford City Shopping mall is another tunnel. Built during WW2 as part of a Ford Motor plant, there are allegedly tunnels that go all the way from what is now the shopping mall to Midway Airport so that cargo (mainly aircraft motors) could be moved to the airport for transportation without enemy eyes seeing it. The tunnel was converted into shops in the 70's that connected the two large main buildings of the mall.
@ITSHISTORY
@ITSHISTORY 3 года назад
Thanks John! The “alleged” part seems like a mystery we need to solve!
@johnnelson5083
@johnnelson5083 3 года назад
@@ITSHISTORY I think the mall is still open, but I don't think Peacock Alley has stores anymore (I can remember when they opened it as part of expansion in the 1970's) so the stairs are probably closed off. If you search for "peacock alley ford city" you'll see a bunch of photos of a low ceiling area with lots of support posts, those pictures are in the tunnel (in later years it was called "The Connection" because it connected the two separate mall buildings). Per WTTW (local PBS station) they built 18,000 B-29 engines there during WWII and only 51 cars were ever built there so it was mainly built as a factory for WWII. There is also a rail yard right there.
@kwilde1131
@kwilde1131 3 года назад
I remember Peacock Alley fondly as a kid in the late 70's / early 80's.
@alidycepaisley3829
@alidycepaisley3829 3 года назад
06:52 - The tunnel itself exists under the river? Isn't it kind of dangerous to do that? To just have an inaccessible manmade cavity below grade, espcially under or near a body of water? That sounds like a recipe for sinkhole formation eventually.
@dodgeplow
@dodgeplow 3 года назад
If you're deep enough it isn't risky. There are countless tunnels like that around the world. NYC has at 4 sets I can think of - Holland, Lincoln, Battery, and Midtown
@alidycepaisley3829
@alidycepaisley3829 3 года назад
@@dodgeplow Yes but those tunnels are open and accessible and thus maintainable and they can be inspected. The tunnels above are closed off and thus none of these safety measures can be taken.
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
@@alidycepaisley3829 I have been in and inspected all 3 of these trolley tunnels. These tunnels are not open to the public. However, they are accessible to authorized personnel for maintenance and inspection. There is no safety issue.
@alidycepaisley3829
@alidycepaisley3829 2 года назад
@@function0077 Was hoping for just this sort of clarification.
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
@@alidycepaisley3829 No problem. This is one of the few things I am actually qualified to comment about on the internet.
@jeffking4176
@jeffking4176 3 года назад
I know there were some tunnels in St.Louis Missouri as well.” I actually remember them - though I couldn’t tell you where. I grew up in University City. I even [ barely] remember the street car that came up past our apartment on Pershing Ave. [ It would he just past our apartment, and slide back down, some times taking 3 times to make it. I also remember riding with my grandmother up into Clayton,and back , and down to “The Loop”. I don’t know what the tunnels were used for, or just don’t remember any more, but there were several. 📻🙂
@sarcasmo57
@sarcasmo57 3 года назад
Tunnels are always interesting.
@marc639
@marc639 Год назад
I grew up with streetcars and trains in Detroit. Us leaders allowed the automobile companies to buy up most of these facilities and destroy them to sell more cars
@JayKarpwick
@JayKarpwick 6 месяцев назад
Yes - look up National City Lines. They were a false-front company that promised to "improve" streetcar operations, but instead they'd shut them down. NCL was by no means the only reason streetcar systems went out of business, but they accelerated the decline.
@ianmoseley9910
@ianmoseley9910 3 года назад
Sounds a bit like the original concept for the Brunel tunnel at Rotherhith, in London, UK. Thay ran out of money for the carriage approaches so was pedestrian only. Then became part of the Underground, now the Overground.
@nikolaospeterson2495
@nikolaospeterson2495 2 года назад
09:11 This is NOT a diesel bus! It is an electric trolleybus (No. 370), look closely on the roof, the trolley poles can be clearly seen! (This shows that Chicago ALSO had nice clean electric trolleybusses to their fleet as well! HEY! Let's REOPEN these tunnels may be too steep for trams, but not for ELECTRIC trolleybuses! No reason to have trolleybusses in Chicago that can make usage of these historical tunnels! Remember Climate Change, we on this planet MUST get away from fossil fuels, and trolleybuses must not be sneezed at! There have been some trolleybuses in Chi Town, With todays' technology (2022) the CTA MUST get on the bandwagon of fighting Climate Change, reopen these tunels restore them, and start acquiring new trolleybuses (like from the Canadian New Flyer Corp, or even the best ones in the world, from Switzerland Carrosiere Hess who also make DOUBLE articulated models (four axles)! I have ridden these in Luzern in Switzerland. Nice!
@TheRealLaughingGravy
@TheRealLaughingGravy 2 года назад
The video says the western entrance to the Washington Street tunnel was paved over in 2013, but this is incorrect. The entrance was just east of Clinton, and the Google Street View image from August, 2007, shows traffic flowing in the middle section beneath the Metra/UP tracks where the entrance was. I can remember when the entrance was still there, fenced off, but I think it was paved over in the 1990's or early 2000's.
@paulakpacente
@paulakpacente 3 года назад
At 9 minutes and 17 seconds there is an advertisement for the Chicago Surface Lines. My grandfather designed streetcars for them from the 1920's until they merged with Rapid Transit and were bought by the city in the 1950's. It then became the CTA. He designed the logo for the CTA right before he retired. RIP Gramps.
@CrazyBear65
@CrazyBear65 3 года назад
I'd bet that Frank Gallagher could find a way into them tunnels, if there was some money or dope in it for him... You know, if he was an actual person...
@samiam7086
@samiam7086 Год назад
My grandfather worked on trolley working for CTA, when bus's came out he was to drive a bus that he never even drove a car. So he crashed the bus and left it and went to work for Chicago school system, until he retired. With Chicago growing up around him.
@garyjust.johnson1436
@garyjust.johnson1436 3 года назад
I enjoy the Chicago history videos very much. The Windy City is more than Gangsters and crime sindicates.
@SuperEtab
@SuperEtab 3 года назад
Toronto still has many of these in use.
@sfmike711
@sfmike711 2 года назад
@IT'S HISTORY : At 9:10 you state "diesel buses" yet show an electric trolley coach. It appears to be a Marmon-Herrington.
@Elainerulesutube
@Elainerulesutube 3 года назад
In Australia, street cars are called trams.
@ITSHISTORY
@ITSHISTORY 3 года назад
In Europe also
@alfyryan6949
@alfyryan6949 3 года назад
In Britain too
@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome
@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome 3 года назад
Yeah pretty much everywhere except the US lol. Americans have to make up their own names for shit.
@alfyryan6949
@alfyryan6949 3 года назад
@@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome I did read somewhere though that it might possibly have been derived from the German term for tramways, "Straßenbahn"; therefore a tramcar would be a streetcar. Before the First World War, Germans were the most prominent and numerous of immigrants to America, and it would be fair to say that they had influenced aspects of American English to some extent.
@johndavies9270
@johndavies9270 3 года назад
@@alfyryan6949 Some people argue that 'tram' is derived from the name of an early promotor, a Mr Outram, but variations of it were used long before, in the mines of North eastern England. 'Street railway' is a perfectly logical phrase - Germans being very logical people - to distinguish them from 'eisenbahn'. The first street trams in Britain - in Birkenhead, introduced by a Mr G F Train (!) - used ordinary railway track, laid on the surface of the road, which did nothing to ensure their popularity with other road users.
@audioidkid
@audioidkid Год назад
I've been in the LaSalle and Washington Street tunnels back in my fiber optic design days.
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 3 года назад
As a child, I knew about the tunnel system under downtown, but I never heard about these three tunnels under the river. Fantastic!!
@Thaistickthai
@Thaistickthai 3 года назад
So although I have never been down any, my hometown of Saint Cloud, MN has a network of tunnels that may make for an interesting historical tunnel video. Our downtown is located a stone's throw away from the Mississippi, and it's said that Al Capone himself used them in his bootlegging. It's closed now, but there was a bar downtown called Rumrunner's. A prominent auto dealer in the 50's also had tunnels dug from the Pantown Motor Lot, to his manse a few blocks over. The dealership became a factory that was owned by Maytag or Fridgedair, then became Electrolux. The house still exists and is on the Historical Preservation list of houses in the area.
@johncroop8243
@johncroop8243 3 года назад
I don’t believe Chicago ever had “cable cars” electric trollies or streetcars were the standard of the day.
@bujecan
@bujecan 3 года назад
First there were cable cars, then electric trollies. No overhead power lines in 1880s. It even says it in the video
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 3 года назад
The cable cars were there before streetcars, and were removed in 1906, due to the electric streetcar being more efficient.
@johncroop8243
@johncroop8243 3 года назад
Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated.
@who_cares848
@who_cares848 3 года назад
@@bujecan wrong, I was alive in the 1880s and I remember seeing overhead powerlines back then. I also remember when George Lopez became the chancellor of the Florida everglades after he died and was reborn in Argentina. You kids today would never understand.
@h.mandelene3279
@h.mandelene3279 3 года назад
@@who_cares848 "I was alive in the 1880s" Oh... so you are one of the active registered voters that are about 140 years old....
@drippinglass
@drippinglass 3 года назад
Kool story! Thank you! 😀
@adamcarter7826
@adamcarter7826 3 года назад
Cincinnati Ohio at one time started building a subway tunnel system that never got put into use.. If you search around on RU-vid you can find some information about it.. Might be worth another video.
@lakotathierauf2419
@lakotathierauf2419 3 года назад
The abandoned tunnels in Cincinnati are pretty cool.
@timmmahhhh
@timmmahhhh 3 года назад
That would be awesome if Cincinnati one day installs the subway system those were intended for. Are they accessible?
@chouseification
@chouseification 3 года назад
Batman's secret reactor research lab was in one of them? :D
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 3 года назад
Nope.
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
I wish. I have been in all three of these trolley tunnels. They are just old tunnels with some utilities in them (e.g. fiber optic, steam pipes, power cables, etc.).
@concorde2003
@concorde2003 Год назад
"Masonry" not "Masonary"
@NovaMoonstar
@NovaMoonstar 2 года назад
Has anyone suggested rebuilding these old abandoned tunnels for green transportation, bicycling and pedestrian commuting, exercise, and tourism? Those rebuilt tunnels would sure come in handy for human mobility in Chicago’s hot summers and cold winters.
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
I have inspected all three of these tunnels. They are mostly empty, but have some utilities in them (e.g. fiber optic cable, steam pipes, power lines). Because of the utilities I don't think these tunnels will ever be open to the public again. Also, the bridges on the surface are better for bikes and pedestrians than the tunnels. I have personally used both, the tunnels and the bridges.
@syguzman5739
@syguzman5739 3 года назад
This video earned you a new subscriber! 💚 Thank you! Very informative! ⭐⭐⭐⭐
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 3 года назад
Chicago's equivilant of the Thames Tunnel. Originally made for horses in the 1800's, she instead was a pedestrian tunnel for a bit, before being repurposed as an Underground tunnel. Says a lot about Trams (as we call them) that they can go where horses, cars & trains can't. (trains generally hate going up hills, without special gearing)
@ronkemp9528
@ronkemp9528 3 года назад
Funny how everything already look 100 years old in the old photos.
@leahquispe4569
@leahquispe4569 3 года назад
We were just the interiors of all these things!!!!!
@Donkeyearsa
@Donkeyearsa 3 года назад
I would think by now they would be entirely flooded. Even the smallest drip would fill in a tunnel over a half century.
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
I have been in all of these tunnels. They are used and maintained for utilities. They have automated pumps that keep these tunnels dewatered.
@MN12warbird
@MN12warbird Год назад
They should bring them back
@qjtvaddict
@qjtvaddict 3 года назад
Why not revive these tunnels for Metra service to allow through running to make a regional rail
@gordonbrooks3081
@gordonbrooks3081 3 года назад
Port Hope Ontario Canada has a heritage district underneath witch extends @ least 3 more levels with 15 ft. doors & piles of ancient Dynamoes. It is & has always been hidden from public & known only to Masonic municipalities workers & urban explorers like myself.
@SkaterOrnez
@SkaterOrnez 3 года назад
They should honestly reopen them. It would free up crowded 0ublic transportation
@woodentrainseriesofficial9511
@woodentrainseriesofficial9511 3 года назад
Public*
@SkaterOrnez
@SkaterOrnez 3 года назад
@@woodentrainseriesofficial9511 public * ; no need for capitalisation because the word is not at the start of the sentence.
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
They can't be reopened to the public because they are used for utilities, just like the smaller freight tunnels in Chicago. I have been in and inspected all 3 of these trolley tunnels.
@ZacBrzuchalski
@ZacBrzuchalski 3 года назад
Awesome video! Please do a video about the 8th street tunnels and the 9th street incline that was in Kansas City, Missouri.
@SpaceLizard1049
@SpaceLizard1049 2 года назад
I drove trucks down that north LaSalle ramp regularly for work. It's all loading docks down there now but there is still a track down there.
@jerometurner8759
@jerometurner8759 3 года назад
What's the location of the photo at 9:07?
@albertgreene313
@albertgreene313 3 года назад
My 99 year old gma (we are a Chicago family) spoke of such mythical tunnels, myths for the most part in her youth as well. But thanks for this video, I love this city and am always happy to know more. PBS gets something’s but not all the wild and crazy things this city has done!
@CarlosGonzalez-tk1wf
@CarlosGonzalez-tk1wf 3 года назад
Thanks you for the video.
@mariocisneros911
@mariocisneros911 3 года назад
There is one or two still around. Next to or near the Sears Tower on Wacker Avenue
@amordemarzo5377
@amordemarzo5377 3 года назад
IS WAKER DRIVE PART OF THOSE TUNNELS ❓
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 3 года назад
No, but lower Wacker is amazing!!
@jackthediscoverer
@jackthediscoverer 3 года назад
Chicago tunnel used by Trams. Interesting. That reminds me of the Tram tunnels of Sydney Tramway network, only it used the Eastern Side of the Harbour bridge from the north and on the approach to the CBD an underground tunnel to Wynyard Platforms 1 & 2.
@jackthediscoverer
@jackthediscoverer 3 года назад
Also I have to say, when Sydney’s underground tram route was shutdown for the tramway closure. The tunnels of Wynyard platforms 1 & 2 were converted into a car park while the tunnel entrance was blocked under the ramp carrying the Cahil expressway
@Rayster.556
@Rayster.556 3 года назад
Nyc has its share of abandoned train lines stations etc
@killaxmatt
@killaxmatt 3 года назад
A secret hero now uses the tunnels as his base of operations. Who he is. We may never know. Some say he’s…….
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 3 года назад
He uses lower Wacker Drive.
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
a CDOT employee. CDOT owns and maintains these tunnels. I have been in all three of them.
@billbye2427
@billbye2427 3 года назад
Very good presentation, and informative; thank you!
@seeem231
@seeem231 2 года назад
Tunnels underneath back of the yards or a little Italy.
@brandtfj
@brandtfj 3 года назад
They're probably filled up with groundwater by now
@packr72
@packr72 3 года назад
The Washington St tunnel is still intact. LaSalle St tunnel was mostly destroyed to build the subway and part of the Van Buren tunnel lost for the construction of the Sears tower.
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 3 года назад
@@packr72 I have some photos of the Washington Street Tunnel
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 3 года назад
@@packr72 So do all the tunnels have at least some sections intact?
@packr72
@packr72 3 года назад
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory Possibly yes.
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory I have been in all three of these trolley tunnels. All three are still intact and maintained in a dewatered state.
@t.l.robinson2162
@t.l.robinson2162 3 года назад
There are also abandoned street car tunnels beneath the streets of the city of Cincinnati, Ohio. I think that they would make a very good story.
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 3 года назад
I would love to see that.
@rikardsebastiangelabertben3255
In the 1850 the population count in Chicago was 30.000 furious horse wagon riders tired of getting their bridges blocked. -let's start digging tunnels underneath all our canals. Hold my horse while I start digging with my shovel. I refuse to wait for the bridge to close the gap again in 20 minutes.
@howmanywoodscouldawoodchuc7986
@howmanywoodscouldawoodchuc7986 3 года назад
I can imagine the size of those tunnel rats 🐀
@function0077
@function0077 2 года назад
There aren't any rats in these tunnels. I have been in all three of them. These tunnels are difficult to access and there isn't any food sources in these tunnels.
@arnomrnym6329
@arnomrnym6329 3 года назад
Very interresting. 👍🏾😎
@projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762
@projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762 3 года назад
How about Louisville hidden underground were old school gangsters used to slip in and out of prominent buildings and there were even secret speakeasies from what I understand.
@TestTubeBabySpy
@TestTubeBabySpy 3 года назад
They even sealed up the ramp to lower wacker dr. near the sears tower. I used to take that all the time.
@jaysenjohnivanturner1972
@jaysenjohnivanturner1972 3 года назад
I don’t know much about tunnels but I know something about rabbit holes let’s go play.(to make a video contact me)
@megaotstoy
@megaotstoy Год назад
probably these Forgotten Streetcar Tunnels of Chicago is the place the Beetlejuice had been born
@mikeryan2070
@mikeryan2070 3 года назад
Mandela effect. Super Sub. Is on Division and Ashland Cortez. All this who knows
@mikeisaacs2314
@mikeisaacs2314 Год назад
I saw a RU-vid video on when one of these tunnels sprung a leak and started sucking in and create a whip pool
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv 2 года назад
One gets the impression, that Chicago, with its architecture and infrastructure was more interesting in the past.
@trainrover
@trainrover 2 года назад
As school teenagers, a friend and I each snuck out of our houses overnight and explored Montreal's Blue Line during its construction. We covered several inter-station tunnelings, but got stumped by heat and muggy humidity along the bendy one twixt Edouard-Montpetit and Université-de-Montréal stations (the overnight low that late-February night was -14°F/-27°C back up on the surface). Eventually, we arrived there to where the concrete tunnel lining had been fully poured within just 2 foot of a mightily hot rock face, so hot that I was the one of we two that could palm that igneous intrusion (Mt Royal) for a full 3-second spell. Delays for the few years afterwards were attributed by news plants of the day to unidentified geotechnical difficulties.
@Tamari95
@Tamari95 3 года назад
I live out there and trust me there are ways to get in there's like a whole community down there of the homeless.
@780tk
@780tk 3 года назад
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