Formula 1 - All Time Drivers' Points using the 25 Pts and Fastest Lap Scoring System

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We are the Data Dudes. 2 data enthusiasts who make timeline and time-series videos. In this video we have made a FANTASY time-lapse review of every single Formula 1 championship point scored by drivers but applying a points system from the modern era. We use a modern era points system to score every single Grand Prix from GP 1 - BRITAIN 1950 until GP 1079 - ABU DHABI 2022 (the most recent GP at the time of creation).
So… how exactly have we scored each GP? We have given the top 10 classified finishes in each race the following points for 1st place to 10th place: 25, 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1. Any races were less than 75% of the full distance was completed, we award half points. We also give the driver who has the officially recorded fastest lap an extra point but only if they finish the race classified within the top 10.
Therefore, this can be more or less considered the ruleset from the 2021 season.
Applying this ruleset: We do NOT apply sprint race points, nor do we award things like double points to special races as seen in ABU DHABI 2014. Our intention is to try and apply the easiest to understand ruleset whilst removing any advantages gained by one off rule changes, exceptions or recent additions such as said sprint race points or double points races. In short: a more even playing field with regards to points scoring at least. In the cases where podium steps or finishing positions are shared, we simply give both drivers the points, rather than trying to cope with fractional points, or assigning the points on “merit”. We understand there a lot of other ways to apply these rules, but we are trying to keep things as straightforward as possible.
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@TheDataDudesF1 Год назад

Thank you all so much for your comments and suggestions! We've made a video just like you asked with the average points per race, check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G7tzsgmnhY4.html&ab_channel=TheDataDudes

@multikannan100 Год назад

give facts not fictions avg points will turn out very high if you compare the last 10 years to the previous 10 years because the points given now are for the top 10 whereas it was only till the 6th place & much lesser no of points almost more than half less during Schumacher's time

@jakemaattanen 5 месяцев назад

Yes, avg points should be calculated from like points are in this video 👍

@gussay 5 месяцев назад

to be properly fair... you need to factor in the number of races per year that the drivers were able race. F1 history has consisted of between 7 and 22 Grands Prix

@AaaBbb-ff1pn 5 месяцев назад

@@gussayexactly ... take the total points of every season and distribuite to drivers in percentage. this give equal points to every years,not counting the number of races

@findingandvalue 4 месяца назад

CAn you add 2023 and do it again in 2024?

@adrianopimenta5523 Год назад

So sad seeing Senna's counting stopping when we know he could have done much more.

@gemellimusic931 Год назад

So sad that Clark hadn't a bit enough to overtake Fangio

@eduardosantana8300 Год назад

I think we can all see and agree from this video that Hamilton is the GOAT and barrichello is the greatest Brazilian driver of all time.

@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 Год назад

@@eduardosantana8300 cara, pontuação não diz respeito a habilidade ou performance. A diferença da quantidade de corridas por ano da época do Emerson pra hoje é gritante então é óbvio que o rubinho vai ter mais pontos, ele participou de mais de 300 corridas, não tem como vc não pontuar o suficiente correndo mais de 300 corridas

@adrianopimenta5523 Год назад

@@eduardosantana8300, by using this criterion (i.e. points), yes. But there is so much more than points when ranking F1 pilots. As much as I think Barrichello was a great F1 driver (and he definitely was!), saying that he had done better than Senna, Piquet and Fittipaldi sound like a joke.

@eduardosantana8300 Год назад

@@roymcgaw7431 I’m being completely sarcastic about everything.

@hotice88uk Год назад

The moment I saw Fisichella pass Jim Clark was the moment I realised the extent to which career longevity is the main contributing factor in these numbers - I'd be much more interested to see this data indexed against each driver's total number of races.

@Astro_Gardener Год назад

Then they would have a point average per race, that might see who has been the best over the years?

@simtekgroup3080 Год назад

Came here to say that, nothing against the guy, but Fisichella ahead of Clark and Fangio is a bit…weird 😂

@arnaudj.5314 Год назад

Yeah career longevity AND total number of races per season. I love these videos but we still haven't seen the most accurate representation possible yet

@duxandrespasha Год назад

Myself too. Also I know Indy was championship but it messes things up.

@rkentwenger5095 Год назад

Fangio is still by far the best on a per-race basis (I've never seen the calculations by points, but he's #1 per race for wins, poles, and fastest laps...).

@r.dekker858 Год назад

nice list! Still, in the past there were far fewer races. I know it would be near impossible to "calculate" this correctly but I'm sure some "oldies" would end up a lot higher in the ranks.

@ronintje7647 Год назад

You could make it a "per race" list. Curious what that would look like, but that would probably also be unfair at some points. Bet the USA racers who only drove Indy500 during those 10 years it counted towards F1 would dominate the ranking then despite only driving a few races.

@christopherbiomass7155 Год назад

It would be easy to weight the points. Come up with.a 'standard' number of races per year, then adjust the points from this video up (or down) based on the number of races in that year. If you take 23 as the standard, then the races in 2022 would be 1:1, and a race win would be 25 points. A race win from 2012 (a 20 race season) would be worth 28.75. The points awarded would have the formula = points from this vid * (standard number races per year / number of races that year).

@TheDataDudesF1 Год назад

There is still a way to find a more balanced list though. We are working on it!

@xMrManu Год назад

@@TheDataDudesF1 what I was thinking was by percentage in the season (ex. in a 14-race season the maximum points would be 25x14 + 14 for the fastest lap), one could try and calculate how many points from the possible total a driver scored

@r.dekker858 Год назад

@@TheDataDudesF1 thanks, appreciate your efforts :)

@karlhulme8014 5 месяцев назад

My personal winner is the driver who stopped mid conversation with his team during a race practice session and beckoned over a shy 10 year old boy to say hello and give an autograph … the boy was me…the driver Jackie Stewart.

@moongate31 5 месяцев назад

Sir Jackie is by far my favorite F1 driver of all time as well as the reason I became an F1 fan in the first place. I remember watching him in the early 70s, especially in the Monaco GP. Besides his racing success, perhaps his greater contribution to F1 was improving safety and medical support at the racetrack. He still has the best tag line ever in F1 (said in his high-pitched Scottish burr): "It's a grrreat day for motorrr racing"

@JakobusVdL Месяц назад

When it comes to lifetime achievement Stewart leaves them all far behind. And he's still going strong!

@chanelboucher Год назад

You should also find a way to normalize for the number of races per season. In the fifties, Fangio only had about 7 races a season, today they get 22!! Fangio remains the one with the highest average wins (45%), Won on 4 different teams (Maserati, Ferrari, Mercedes and Alfa). Started his career at 40 yrs old. Had but a single racing accident (he had driven himself from Silverstone to Monza and just made he start of the race from last on the grid).

@timonsolus Год назад

That’s why ‘win percentage’ is the ultimate F1 stat. The theoretical goal of every F1 driver is to win every single F1 race that he competes in. That would be a 100% win percentage. Juan Manuel Fangio has come closer to achieving that goal than any other F1 driver, since he has won 46.16% of the F1 races that he competed in (24 wins out of 52 races). Alberto Ascari is 2nd, with a win percentage of 40.6% (13 wins out of 32 races). And Jim Clark is 3rd, with a win percentage of 34.7% (25 wins out of 72 races). So these are the 3 most successful F1 drivers of all time. Lewis Hamilton is in 4th position with a win percentage of 33.2% (103 wins out of 310 races). (Note: It’s best to ignore the win percentage of any driver with fewer than 20 races, as any figure of less than 20 is insufficient for a meaningful statistical sample.)

@oslinthompson8182 Год назад

That crossed my mind whilst watching the video. Additionally, perhaps only include races that they finished. It's different eras and different cars, but interesting nonetheless.

@chriskostopoulos8142 Год назад

Your average wins would work except modern F1 isn't competitive, in the last 20 odd years it has been dominated to death by one car or the other. First Ferrari, Redbull, Mercedes and now Redbull again. Makes their drivers look better than they perhaps are. Most fans are too stupid to see this obvious issue and think that their manufacturers driver is the greatest ever. E.G. #blessed in the Mercedes.

@timonsolus Год назад

@@oslinthompson8182 : No, I would include races that the drivers don’t finish. It’s part of the driver’s job to avoid all accidents (even ones that aren’t their fault), and also to look after the car’s machinery so that it doesn’t break down during the race.

@timonsolus Год назад

@@chriskostopoulos8142 : Yes, in the old days of unlimited testing, teams would still sometimes create dominant cars, but they would only be dominant for 1 season, or at most 2 seasons, before another team built a better car. Mind you, looking back before F1, look up the 1936-1939 Grand Prix seasons - totally dominated by the German Auto Union and Mercedes-Benz teams. They completely destroyed the opposition.

@Roguescienceguy Год назад

The fact that Alain Prost is still in sixth while being an eighties Icon tells a lot about the man's career.

@daisyleedham2275 Год назад

The fact that Fangio was still on the list 60 years on since his last season I find the most impressive

@dmytrothecat8317 Год назад

@sylvano81OM that's why Fangio has 24 wins in 52 starts

@leftmono1016 Год назад

It’s why Senna called Prost a coward for vetoing serious driver team mates. Not saying I agree, but Senna said it in an interview.

@iblard Год назад

The fact that the video uses the same point system for everyone makes the time the pilot competed totally irrelevant. Prost would be in the list if he made the same number of points during the 50s than during the 2010s.

@AAC42069 5 месяцев назад

@@iblard But you forget that there where significantly less races in a season compared to today

@ernestomartinez4090 Год назад

Without being a World Champion Carlos Reutemann reached number one position of this scoring table by the time he retired from racing. Remarkable.

@gonzalocomunelli Год назад

I saw this video, took the final standings and divide points against total number of races. This is what I get Hamilton 15,44 Schumacher 12,94 Prost 12,61 Verstappen 12,19 Senna 11,65 Stewart 11,34 Vettel 11,10 Hill 9,63 Bottas 8,82 Hakkinen 8,73 Rosberg 8,53 Hulme 8,46 Piquet 8,33 Alonso 8,23 Mansell 8,13 Raikkonen 8,02 Lauda 7,96 Reutemann 7,73 Brabham 7,52 Coulthard 7,08 Fittipaldi 6,94 Berger 6,79 Webber 6,34 Massa 6,24 R Schumacher 6,12 G Hill 6,03 Button 5,97 Barrichello 5,92 Ricciardo 5,64 Alesi 5,14 Pérez 4,95 Patrese 4,36 *Many mentioned Juan Manuel Fangio. According to this video he scored 894 points. I´ve checked and he started 51 races. This give us an average of 17.53*

@markwestaway7207 5 месяцев назад

Also Jim Clark - 863 points from 73 starts = 11.82, so up there with the best.

@stevenanthony578 Год назад

For a proper comparison, you need to show % of available points. This would account for the fact that there are different numbers of races in a season over the years. Without this correction, your list is basically meaningless as it gives current drivers an edge due to the longer calendar they raced to.

@MicuBamba 4 месяца назад

Meaningless in any case: 6 places allowed points in 90s, so a driver would've risks much more to achieve that position during a race... Or calculate these risks differently. These are nothing more than funny stats.

@dcarbs2979 3 месяца назад

Still interesting. It's the closest way you can compare eras decades apart (due any number of rule, car, track and season changes). Seeing a comparison between scoring systems itself would be interesting. eg. if a driver finished 1st in one system but 20th in another, or the other way round: it would be interesting to see who benefitted or lost out most purely due to the numbering system and nothing to do with their driving!

@gz3zbz Год назад

Prost was a boss.

@magnusmunch2116 Год назад

I’m not sure on this. But if the morden pointsystem Where in use prost would be a 7 time champ, senna would have 1, lauda didnt win his 3rd with mclaren and nielson lost his last to prost

@thomasseyffert1095 Год назад

@@magnusmunch2116 there is another video out that calculates exactly that, Prost would indeed be a 7 time (nearly 8) champ.

@hugoagogo9435 Год назад

@@magnusmunch2116 I’m sure what you say is correct and I can’t be bothered working it out. But god that’s mind boggling

@skodalaskoda8754 Год назад

the boss

@JNST2023 Год назад

@@thomasseyffert1095 Only issue though is that drivers would have driven differently with a different point system

@drewmah8735 Год назад

It was interesting to see how long Fangio remained in the list. Perhaps it should be based on average per race, or maybe remove points for penalties applied in a Grand Prix weekend.

@komakie 5 месяцев назад

Average per race could work. But the longer the career, the harder to maintain. This list is the other way around. The longer you career, the higher you get because of the points you score.

@primozsever1367 5 месяцев назад

@@komakie Well drivers had long careers also back then, the biggest problem is that they could only score on like 12-16 events per year. In 2000+ They raced 16-18 and I think since 2012 it's 20+ races per season

@rhayadervidra6903 Год назад

Reutemann was the largest surprise in that in the early 80s. Never knew he was that good.

@np4029 Год назад

He was the David Coulthard of his era.

@philipking7559 Год назад

I scrolled down to see if anyone else had said this, yeah didn't expect him to be anywhere near the top at any time.

@TheKentaurion 5 месяцев назад

Reutemann and Hulme was the only names I never heard of before. Seven of these guys are still driving, so there will be changes if the list would be updated as for 2024.

@metacosmos 4 месяца назад

Coulthard deserved to be world champion but his style was far from the maestro reutemann.

@HoratioFitzbastard 4 месяца назад

One point away from the DC in '81.

@tompw3141 Год назад

Fangio spent *sixty years* in the top list on-screen. Legend.

@RDGamer321 Год назад

Watching Vettel and Hamilton race each other up the leaderboard in the early to mid 2010's is insane.

@P9B Год назад

Kinda like Kimi and Alonso!

@bigsteve4203 Год назад

@@P9B but greater. These two dominated a whole decade. Absolute greats of the sport.

@anesvick 5 месяцев назад

2005-2013 were some of the best years of F1 from a fan standpoint. Why they got rid of the V8's I'll never understand.... they actually had competition on the grid, teams weren't massively overpowered because they spent 1 billion dollars on research and hid it in their parent company.

@ljubastojanovic608 4 месяца назад

@@bigsteve4203 It is more correct to say that Renault dominated dor only 2 Years and Red Bull and Mercedes much longer. Indycar is showing real driver value, the cars being almost identical, in F1 car is dominant factor. About those "if" discussion... My favorite driver Mansell should have clean 2 titles prior his 1992 dominance. If Williams didnt have stupid politics not to keep actual World champion, meaning Mansell not leaving in 1993 he would score at least next 3 Willians titles Prost, Damon, Jack) and probabely both of Schumachers titles in Benetton. But this is for discussion only. Instead, he was Indy champ as a Rookie in 1993.

@darkalman Год назад

Prost doesn't get enough credit Bonus points for Reubens and Valtteri for being the highest on the list without a championship

@RJSRdg Год назад

Is there any way of "weighting" the scores so that drivers who drove in eras when there were far fewer races than today get more points per race? Quite interesting to see though that despite the much higher number of races these days, Hulme, Brabham, Fittipaldi, Graham Hill, Stewart and Lauda all still make the top 32.

@quintuscrinis8032 Год назад

You could probably do a list on percentage of points a driver could have won using this chart. But it then depends how many decimal points you want to work to. And it still wouldn't account for car dominance questions.

@gweah7821 Год назад

Just divide the points by the number of races held that year.

@thomashancock1462 Год назад

Points per race would be the most accurate I would think

@davidfoster1762 Год назад

Good point

@josepedroteixeira3120 Год назад

Points per race

@ZuluRomeo Год назад

Most telling of all is how close Rubens Barrichello and Ayrton Senna ended up. One driver once held the longevity record for most Grands Prix while always playing second best to his team mate, and the other of course burned brightly and ever so short.

@theINQBS 5 месяцев назад

Ruby was MUCH better than his record states and had it not been for team intervention he'd have at least one title over Michael on merit. He was that damn brilliantly good. I hate when people talk smack about Rubens. He's an all-time great and deserves respect.

@h.a.9880 5 месяцев назад

This chart is crazy. Senna being in the all-time top 10 despite driving much fewer races than those drivers that came after him and Schumacher being stopped just shy of 4k points and still maintains second place... impressive. Verstappen might now be somewhere in the ballpark of Alain Prost, but even so it'll take some time to crack past Vettel and Schumacher.

@pk1342 Год назад

Would be interesting if you worked out their points tally for each season using their % finishes in each position and extrapolated that to 22 race seasons for everyone's career.

@_Dibbler_ Год назад

Or just calculate points per race...(with this what if everyone had the same points system of course)

@ivicapavic3381 Год назад

You also need to take into account the fact that seasons had less races during Schumacher's era (16-18 at the most), making his records even more impressive.

@6St6Jimmy6 4 месяца назад

And reliability improved a ton after 2010 or so.

@harpsw3390 Год назад

The fact Fangio was still on that list in 2012 on cements how great the man was.

@impact224488 4 месяца назад

2018 even. Its crazy

@josephneill691 5 месяцев назад

The way Jim Clark jumps so rapidly up to rival Fangio but then stops because of a Formula 2 race always has me thinking of what could have been. He mightn't be the goat, but he's my goat

@pliiatz7534 3 месяца назад

He holds the record of 8 grand slams - every lap lead, fastest lap, pole and win.

@profesormajor Год назад

This only proves once again what a beast Fangio was.

@onlynb947 Год назад

Prost is an absolute underrated legend

@ftolead Год назад

He is my all time favorite.

@eduardosantana8300 Год назад

He’s in a three way GOAT battle with Senna and Fangio.

@resulnaki Год назад

@@eduardosantana8300 lol you meant with Schumi, Fangio, and Hamilton.

@eduardosantana8300 Год назад

@@resulnaki I can add Schumacher to the list sure. Won a championship in a midfield car, just like Prost. Never lost to a teammate during his prime. And until recently was the most successful driver ever (although this stat is the least important as it’s not a accurate measure of skill, but team success). Kind of hard to have Hamilton in the goat debate. He lost multiple times to a teammate over the course of an entire season. And while George Russell may turn out to be an all time great, nobody has button and Rosberg on their all time greats list. Losing to button and Rosberg, and now Russell kind of shows that Hamilton isn’t levels above everyone else. He’s a great driver in a great team. He definitely can’t win a championship in a midfield car. His 2008 championship was super impressive. He’s not anywhere near Senna in pace.

@resulnaki Год назад

@@eduardosantana8300 Schumi is the goat without a single shroud of doubt. Senna could barely compete with Schumi in his prime while Schumi was a rookie in the 3rd best car. It's Schumi, Fangio, Hamilton, Prost, then Senna/Vettel

@MateusPasseri 5 месяцев назад

Need to update this to 2024...

@lmao7439 4 месяца назад

not much has changed tbh, max only jumped prost uptill now

@stupidassol Год назад

About everyone saying they didn't have the same amount of races per season, the cars were different, some drivers passed away to soon, etc. It is what it is people, decades from now when someone else does the same thing using their new points system but with FEWER races, people will still be saying the same thing... Ahhh, people - can't we all just say "Thank you for such a bang up job!" ✌️

@tonycooper4141 Год назад

More exciting than many GP's! Wonderful.

@marcodhaene Год назад

It's insane to realise that Max is just 25 but already 7th on this list. The dominant Mercedes era is clearly visible when you see Lewis and Valtteri shoot up the ranking. Nice to see it like this 😁

@Kam1Kaz3NL77 Год назад

And ofcourse don't forget Nico Rosberg in his equal machinery! :P

@PeterJPickles Год назад

Remember people called Lewis crazy for going there, as they were very poor at the time, Lewis helped that team become what it became, people forget that, shame....

@marcodhaene Год назад

@@PeterJPickles agreed, but... Schumacher also laid a pretty nice foundation as far as team members, facilities and sponsorships go. Don't forget that as well 😉

@pablokenzie47 Год назад

@@marcodhaene Michael had NOTHING to do with the 2014 Mercedes, His driving style and car setup were completely different from Lewis's, From 2013 Mercedes and Ross Brawn began to build around Lewis after no significant results with Michael. As Michael was a Legend, he brought Awe and inspiration, team morale, and that was about it. But Lewis brought Results. With or without Michael Schumacher, Lewis was destined to bring 8 x Constructors titles to Mercedes. The foundation of Mercedes is 100% Ross Brawn, no other name is worthy to be beside his in this matter.

@marcodhaene Год назад

@@pablokenzie47 that's why I said "foundation as far as team members facilities and sponsorships go". Nothing to do with the car, all with the team behind it 😉

@Lancista 4 месяца назад

*_Juan Manuel Fangio | The Greatest_*

@danylo4670 5 месяцев назад

The top 7 are a testament to F1 safety evolution as much as success... Many talented driver's lives were cut short in the 60s to early 90s. A comparison of points per race entered would be a fascinating comparison of points against the field vs career duration. Just a thought.

@miguelksas5283 Год назад

Que grande el Lole Reutemann!!! prohibido olvidar lo enorme que fue. 💙🤍💙

@ARGDevilDog Год назад

F Argentina

@dirtysideofthetrack Год назад

Well that’s had me utterly mesmerized all the way through. Superb!! Now I know you can’t equalize the number of races from season to season but this is as close as you can get. Hits hard watching certain drivers like Clark, Senna etc stop rising way too early.

@alban020587 Год назад

Prost is highly underrated. Give him 18gps per season and he tops the ranking.

@largol33t12 5 месяцев назад

And remember, he admitted to throwing away several victories because Senna was so hellbent on petty revenge. Prost sometimes just thought (he admitted this in an interview with a magazine) "Second place is fine with me, thank you very much." And a McLaren insider said sometimes this frustrated Senna to no end!

@meta7gear 5 месяцев назад

He would be on many peoples top 5 lists if not for the romanticism surrounding Senna.

@cchuvan 5 месяцев назад

Give Prost a point system that counts every race in the season and he has something like 8 titles instead of just 4. He's up there in the Pantheon with Schumi, Hamilton and Senna, no question.

@marcosvieira6198 5 месяцев назад

Alain Prost is a scam. 89 belongs to Senna.

@houch7640 5 месяцев назад

Please do this again upto 2024

@rocket3man Год назад

Anyone who witnessed Jim Clark will know the real truth.

@chrismuz Год назад

Good job! - Interesting: 1. 7 Brits, 5 Brazilians, 4 Germans (+ Rindt), 3 Finns, 3 Aussis, 2 French, 2 Austrians, 1 Spaniard, 1 Dutch, 1 Mexican, 1 Kiwi, 1 Argentinian, 1 Italian 2. Fangio not in the top 32 3. Only a single Italian (but 3 Finns!) 4. Berger > Lauda.

@Ahito1984 Год назад

5. Barrichello > A. Senna LOL

@chrismuz Год назад

@@Ahito1984 True, I overlooked that one

@soundscape26 Год назад

Italy doesn't have a F1 champion since 1953 and Ascari is still the Italian driver with more GP wins at 13. Italiy's strength in F1 is much more connected to Ferrari than its home grown drivers.

@TheKissnun Год назад

My 🐐 Michael Schumacher #KeepFightingMichael

@kiwipaul5024 Год назад

Was incredible to see kiwi Denny Hulme finish on the last frame equal to Jack Brabham with who's team he was the only kiwi to win an f1 championship !!

@psyborg01 5 месяцев назад

Verstappen is closing in very fast...

@ccramit Год назад

I honestly thought this was the F1 youtube channel putting this out. It's some guys with less than 1k subs? Impressive.

@iciman100 5 месяцев назад

No fangio with 5 WC 🤔🤔

@gamerkat99 Год назад

Absolute. Mega. Chad @TheDataDudes. How long did THIS TAKE TO MAKE?

@LandoPro49 4 месяца назад

Updated totals for current drivers, since the end of the 2022 season (when this was posted) and up to & including Miami 2024: HAM: 5,046.5 ALO: 3,162 VER: 2,698.5 BOT: 1,782 RIC: 1,319 PER: 1,571

@rubberjohnny1 Год назад

Seeing Jim stop a few races into 68 after only being in the sport 8 years 🥺

@jerrylouis8930 Год назад

This comment deserves all the dislikes, for reason clear to understand.

@rubberjohnny1 5 месяцев назад

@@jerrylouis8930lost to time

@QulbutokeTrollmaster Год назад

Jean Alesi encore dans le classement alors que les gens le prennent pour un gros naze, c'est beau. Que les rageux se taisent.

@SimonvDay 5 месяцев назад

Epic dataviz! To the point where it was emotional. It was a goosebump moment when Senna didn’t surpass Prost, that is now sealed (career longevity considered). The F1 audio track closes out this awesome experience. More please.👌

@stuartsmith5308 4 месяца назад

10% driver, 90% car. If Schumacher, Hamilton, Prost or Max were in the 2nd best car they would of won no world driver championships.

@jimmymcgoochie5363 Год назад

I’m surprised how far up the list Coulthard is, but then again he could have been a multiple world champion if not for Schumacher. A comparison based on average points per race would be informative both to balance the difference in races per year and for those drivers whose careers were cut short- the top 5 have had much longer careers with more races per year than most others which skews the results in their favour.

@juhol2923 Год назад

How could Coulthard be a champion when always losing to his teammate in McLaren?

@davids3539 Год назад

Average per race doesn't show progression/accumulation over time. You could just have the end screen. I think giving the points a multiplier where there were fewer races would be good. While I would like to see longevity represented, it's not the drivers' fault that there were fewer races back in the day.

@derriethelm1524 Год назад

@@juhol2923 2001 I guess

@gemellimusic931 Год назад

@@juhol2923 tbh Coulthard was better number 2 than Rubens in Ferrari. However, he was always forcely put behind Hakkinen

@largol33t12 5 месяцев назад

@@juhol2923 I agree. Hakkinen made him look like a rookie many times. And don't forget, in 1995, while leading the Australian GP, DC crashed in the PITS!!!😂😂

@MickPsyphon Год назад

When you compare the number of races per season that each of the drivers in the top 10 or 20 raced in, it's heavily biased in favour of the current drivers. It also doesn't take other factors into play, but I won't hijack the comments with that discussion. Suffice to say that it would be worth looking into a way to weigh the scores through the number of races that were on the season calendar. I think many people would be surprised to see those results. On another note, this does shine a light on just how good some of the great drivers of the past were. Sir Stirling Moss was truly the greatest driver to never have won a championship; and he deserves to be in the ranks with the champions. Then there are those drivers who died, before they had a chance to give us a full career of superb racing. Jim Clark. Gilles Villeneuve. Ayrton Senna. Imagine....

@willbill6449 Год назад

Brilliantly done. Do you have software for this stuff, or did you do this manually?🤔 Either way, tons of effort, great result. Thank you!

@Nisie23 Год назад

This is ridiculous. Not fair. Might be the same scoring system, but they did NOT drive the same car technology! Cars nowadays are easier to drive. Fact. So this was useless. Comparing apples to oranges. Plus Senna's counting stopped prematurely since he died so young. He was the BEST of them all. No question about it.

@AdamRizky97 Год назад

So once again it's 2012 when the top 5 in this list were racing together, what a season, what a year to be alive to watch the whole 2012 season

@HungwellAngerthy 5 месяцев назад

Prost is the goat. Raced in wicked cars from start to finish of his career. Against the most competitive and talented drivers to ever race. Tire wars, rocket fuel and turbocharged monsters all without computer and driver assists. Greater than 80% of his career in standard transmission cars. Electronic computer assisted paddle shifting ruined talent based drivers and incentivized the poor quality marketable drivers we see so often now. Most modern F1 drivers would look like amateurs in standard transmission F1 era cars. You are lied to when F1 community claims we have “the worlds best drivers.” That statement is only true when describing pre 1991 F1.

@Snoflakes_1 5 месяцев назад

I was looking forward to Verstappen's absolute launch that was 2022 and 2023, but I guess this video isn't recent enough for that

@RiminiVirage 5 месяцев назад

Thankfully! Are points removed for being gifted a world title by an incompetent race director?

@oktimusbrime6751 5 месяцев назад

@@RiminiVirage Cry me a river 😂

@grahamleigh8398 5 месяцев назад

@@oktimusbrime6751won’t go away. 😂. Max hasn’t even started yet.

@clipanddone 5 месяцев назад

@@RiminiVirage My god Rimi get over it already... Shal we also take one championship away from Lewis then ? Masa was cheated out if this in '08 because of Renault. Both are legal WC.

@princesssolace4337 Год назад

Meaning u guys have to give top 10 finisher points? Back in the day, it's the top 6 recieve championship points. Cars rarely finish a race that's why it's just top 6. The chances for a DNF bcoz of electronics or hydrolics are very common untill Honda entered and reliability was improved.

@lcdubs7847 Год назад

This is a fantastic way to compare drivers. Thanks for creating that list.

@mundoeze Год назад

Not so much because in the past were much less races per season so less points.. but it was interesting to watch

@WH0oo... Год назад

It's a view point absent the complexities and circumstances surrounding a race/season.

@MAGNA_FRISIA Год назад

And even with 7 Brits on the board, the English supporters still can't give Max and the Dutch public anything. and meanwhile always pointing to Germany. as if they were the most selfish people!! (?)

@g79089 3 месяца назад

Great analysis, but will always have to bear in mind modern F1 drivers benefit from driving over 20 races per season whereas in the 60's and 70's there were less than half that amount of races per season.

@Sparrow.31 Год назад

*Prost* chad

@MaxScheibenpflug 5 месяцев назад

Wow, as an Austrian, I knew Lauda was good - but I did not imagine him rising to the top that significantly!

@MrJiminibobster Год назад

I would also be really interested to see if, using this scoring system for previous seasons, there would be an years where it would have led to a different driver winning the WDC?!

@reldwob22 Год назад

Many times! There are websites and video that show this. But you drive to the points that are available, so drivers would have made different decisions if they had different points, so you cannot really say things would have been different. We are so lucky that there are always the very best in F1, at any time, in any era.

@n8pls543 Год назад

IIRC, some people did that and determined that Prost was actually incredibly close to being a 7 time WDC, which speaks volumes about his career consistency despite how many teams he drove for.

@13Xerro 5 месяцев назад

With 24 races a season and bullet proof reliability, so many of these will be surpassed over the next couple decades.

@DaimonF1 Год назад

Realy brilliant job, you are the best! Thank you! Nobody has done this table

@fixipszikon6670 Год назад

What if Hamilton did not have the absolutely dominating car for a decade without the team supporting only him? He would have Zero titles, and would not show up on this list.

@arposkraft3616 5 месяцев назад

As a long time coulthard fan i must say it warms my heart and speaks to his consistency to see him among those top greats

@pollemar 3 месяца назад

And above Mika

@percyveer2355 5 месяцев назад

its bullshit. unless you normalise the numbers of gps per season the results are meaningless.

@harryburgess8974 Год назад

THROUGH GOES HAMILTON

@fredschepers5149 5 месяцев назад

😂😂 that's all you've got out of it? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@JonnyOpinionated Год назад

This is an amazing list - I didn't even think of considering ranking them this way. Did anyone watch this and think "Who the hell is Carlos Reutmann?"

@C_and_C... Год назад

The guy came a Las Vegas carpark away from being 1981 world champion.

@rkentwenger5095 Год назад

I was a little surprised Reutemann was so high, but I started as an F1 fan in the 70s, so no, I didn't think that.

@saltbjorn Год назад

No.

@148quickbricks Год назад

I knew who he was but I was shocked to see him go top at one point

@magicofshootingstar Год назад

This was interesting statistic. 🙂 I just were thinking would it be more fair if there wouldn't be fastest lap point because in 60 years they weren't specifically after that and "lost" many easy points in this statistic because of that. 🤔

@nicomeier8098 4 месяца назад

If you don't take into account the number of seasons/races these drivers have been active it's quite pointless.

@LimeyTX Год назад

What would be interesting would be to see the same table but with points divided by starts to adjust for the fact that there are so many more races today.

@ruppert5134 Год назад

In that case I think Fangio and senna and maybe verstappen would be top3...... I would include finishes too

@fredschepers5149 5 месяцев назад

So what stops you to create such? I think many would love to see that.. 👍🏻

@JonnyOpinionated Год назад

I take back everything I ever said about David Coulthard.

@annoyingbstard9407 3 месяца назад

Absolutely meaningless unless you weigh the results to account for the number of races in a season. Go away and try again.

@jordyheinecke Год назад

The background music is just amazing 🙌 Thank you so much for it ☝️

@mestubbs Год назад

Graham Hill and Damon Hill almost identical scores...

@RJSRdg Год назад

Of course the one factor that cannot be taken into account is those drivers of the past whose careers were cut short by fatal or life-changing accidents that today's drivers would walk away from.

@hugoagogo9435 Год назад

No matter what the numbers say. Jim Clark was best

@gweflj Год назад

Senna said the same.

@hugoagogo9435 Год назад

As did Fangio.

@Anriandor Год назад

Truly the greatest of all time 🏁

@PG-20 5 месяцев назад

It took 12 years for someone to catch up to Fangio’s points total. Just GOAT things

@joerogers9626 Год назад

Is Max the only driver here for whom his entire career has been under one points system? And if so, why does his points tally not match that quoted elsewhere of 2011.5 pts? Edit: Great video by the way ☺ Forgot to say. Always wondered how this would pan out for the all-time greats.

@joerogers9626 Год назад

Oh wait... Sprint Races? 🙄

@TheDataDudesF1 Год назад

Yeap! Sprint races do not count!

@TheRoboteer Год назад

@@joerogers9626 They also only (re)introduced the fastest lap point in 2019.

@dcarbs2979 3 месяца назад

I doubt it. I suspect may 70s-90s drivers spent an entire career in one points system. The 10-6-4-3-2-1 system was in place for a very long time (20 years?) and had a consistent 16 races per season.

@walover165 5 месяцев назад

Sir Jack Brabham and Denny Hulme still hanging onto the list is quite a feat!

@Chiefwilburthegreat Год назад

it made me depressed watching lewis catch Michael knowing that he could not be stopped

@RudolfGraspointner 5 месяцев назад

I wish some points for drivers that finish 10+ ... one point also for all those finishing within the same lap as the winner. This will motivate the weaker teams. 🙂

@vd2960 5 месяцев назад

So many races per season nowadays so it's not a fair comparison to the good old days.

@Rob-hc5ry Год назад

That’s brilliant … great to see all those drivers names from the past and Lewis at the top..

@dtengineering1 5 месяцев назад

Any chance of updating this? Cheers

@artifundio1 Год назад

OMG, what a masterpiece!! Thank you, thank you, thank you. I know I am going to rewatch this 👌

@kg0173 Год назад

To me the best points system still is 9-6-4-3-2-1. Miss the times when a championship point ment something. They should have never changed it. 10 points for win was good aswell.

@geebee2276 Год назад

Completely agree. Loved that system. Massa would have loved it to stay. If it hadn’t changed that year to the 25 points/win, he would have had his world championship.

@JoeCobragaming Год назад

What blows me away is that alonso finishes in 4th and has only won 2 world championships compared to the guys above him. Goes to show what a legend he is.

@xXQuIkSiLvErXx 5 месяцев назад

Whats the name of the audio would really like to have it

@trance9158 Год назад

Lewis and Bottas!! Lewis on top will piss off a lot of haters.

@fredschepers5149 5 месяцев назад

😂😂😂😂 is that all you've got out of this 😂😂😂😂 Did you actually know the names on this list before, or was you just interested to see where Hamilton ended... 😂😂😂😂

@trance9158 5 месяцев назад

@@fredschepers5149 kid... I've been watching F1 since 1980. I've seen these drivers race. Try something more creative.

@motorsportfanboy7769 Год назад

Anyone knows the link of the song? Need to hear it again because it's so goddamn good 😂

@Jordanmilo Год назад

That was very cool. Lots of surprises: How far Lewis is ahead of Michael. How well all the Brazilians on the list did; I didn't expect Felipe and Rubens to place so high, since they are without titles. And Kimi and Fernando are surprisingly high, since they've both had seasons where they struggled. Thanks for putting that together. It's very illuminating.

@michaeltrumph121 Год назад

Hamilton has competed in way more races than Schumacher and has had the best car out there for a longer period of time.

@brolo7234 Год назад

Not really surprising at all. Hamilton has always been in the best teams and has been racing for far longer. Schumacher went to Ferrari when they were at their worst.

@DaveMcIroy 5 месяцев назад

DC in front of Mika feels weird.

@domherbin8562 Год назад

I notice That all F1 drivers Who are ahead from Prost , run for 23 GP/ season and not only 16 !... And since 1994 : refueling means strategy ...engineers took the power

@cchuvan 5 месяцев назад

That is an underrated comment. It would be interesting to take only the best 16 results of those drivers and see whether they still get to overtake Prost in the end...