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Foundation Velvet: The Drumming Of Maureen 'Moe' Tucker - A Documentary By Cam Forrester 

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@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Месяц назад
*Have you seen my new three-part documentary, 'Sterling. The Velvet Warrior' yet? If not, check it it out now!* ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-obQ0x22GIVE.html
@mikulka1
@mikulka1 3 года назад
Hi, Mr. Forrester. A friend sent me a link to this documentary today. I was hesitant to watch an hour long documentary about my mom but I really enjoyed it. You did a great job with focusing on her playing style and talking about her actual drum kit itself, the iterations of her kit and providing video of what it looked like to see her play on studio recordings with your performances. Well done!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Hi Mr. Mikulka, Thank you so much for your praise; I can’t believe that my little project has managed to work it’s way over to your family! Your Mom has been an inspiration to me for so many years, and I’ve always wanted to see something that really spotlighted her vital role and gave her the credit she deserves…so finally I decided to make something myself! The response so far has been wonderful, and I’m so happy it seems to have accomplished what I set out to do. I did make attempts to reach out to Moe through the official VU forum a few months ago, to invite her to be the first to see it, and ask for her blessing to release it online, but was unable to - a member of the forum who used to be in regular contact with her (Alfredo Garcia; rare VU photo book producer), advised me that she is hesitant to have direct contact with fans these days…which at her time of life is completely understandable, so I decided to let it sail unmanned and just hope for the best! Please do send her my warmest and most sincere regards, and let her know that she has been one of my most idolised heroes in music since I was just twelve years old. I hope she and the rest of your family are all in good health and happiness, and are reminded all the time, just how damn cool and inspirational their Mom/Grandma is 😎 x
@sunkingsuk
@sunkingsuk 3 года назад
Great documentary, that I came across on my reccomended list. Superb detail,and the breakdown of Moe's drumming parts, techniques and influneces was exremely illuminating! Perhaps in the future you could look into the tunings that some of the Vlevet Underground used etc. Thanks for your hard work that went into this!!!!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
@@sunkingsuk Thanks for your support! I actually did a demonstration of alternate tunings The Velvets used just before the tutorial section of my 'How To Play Venus In Furs' video, which can be viewed here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P8tb8elvKY8.html
@adamedmour9704
@adamedmour9704 2 года назад
It’s funny; I was watching a video of Elvin Jones the other day, and his son commented as well.
@san5a89
@san5a89 2 года назад
as time goes by I realize more and more how important each member of this band have been for music. everything is apparently simple. then you realize that you can use virtuosism or minimalism but the most important thing is there is a concept. and here there is a great meaning in every detail...
@samajax
@samajax 3 года назад
What a great film, obviously filled with love. I'm not an overly emotional person, but parts of this made me tear up a bit. Beautiful selections of vintage pictures and film, and the narrative was on point. I especially liked the inclusion of her early exposure to African drumming. This film goes way beyond the usual RU-vid production values and you've done her and yourself proud.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thank you so much! I tried my best to find the right balance between giving it that personal touch that traditional documentaries don’t have, whilst still remaining objective and factual. So far it seems that come across really well!
@markhall42
@markhall42 3 года назад
yeah have to admit my eyes got a bit watery at times there dedication song to sterling, the live reunion version of heroin etc...
@ronroffel1462
@ronroffel1462 2 года назад
That last photo of Lou in black and white. His eyes...rips me apart just thinking about them.
@deaconlight
@deaconlight 3 года назад
This is amongst the best analytical documentaries I’ve ever seen. You brought Mo out of the shadows and showed with you illustrious examples the WHAT, HOW, and WHY Mo should be recognized as an innovative-groundbreaking drummer.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Sincerest thanks for your feedback! I’m very happy to hear that; you are right-on about Moe being somewhat in the shadows previously…spotlighting her was exactly what I set out to achieve!
@randalclarke5487
@randalclarke5487 3 года назад
@@CAMFORRESTER you did an exceptional job!!
@lilise3965
@lilise3965 3 года назад
She's never been in the shadows for those who have listened to the VU, but her revolutionary, inspiring drumming style has never been recognized or emphasised enough.
@mifolfree6683
@mifolfree6683 3 года назад
True. I did not know the VU's drummer was a woman. She needs to write a book . She's an inspiration to all who just want to play music the way we want. A book that needs to be part of every member of a rock bands library.
@mavjimbo
@mavjimbo 2 года назад
She was jawdropping
@thecrossmethod6192
@thecrossmethod6192 3 года назад
An hour long documentary on Moe Tucker = subscribed!
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder 3 года назад
Me Too👍
@biegebythesea6775
@biegebythesea6775 Год назад
same!!
@realwhoopysnorp
@realwhoopysnorp 3 года назад
This documentary is just fantastic. It perfectly balances the history of the band with analysis of Moe's playing and clearly demonstrates why she is so important to the sound of the Velvet Underground. She can never get enough praise as far as I am concerned. I mean to be the backbone of one of the most influential bands ever is an accomplishment in itself but to create a style all her own in a band that redefined what rock music was is just extraordinary. Thanks for putting this together. I think it is important for her legacy as well as being tremendously entertaining. Cheers!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks so much for your feedback! And I completely agree...she was and is one of a kind! I only wish I could have been in the audience being hypnotised by the sound of them all together!
@dubkebab6307
@dubkebab6307 3 года назад
This film made my day! Years ago I put a piece of tape on my drums-"what would Maureen do?" reminding me to simplify,keep the pulse and aim steady.She is a heroine.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
That's a great idea! Thanks for watching ;)
@stephenfiore9960
@stephenfiore9960 3 года назад
Lou has a song called Heroin
@julietsilver2033
@julietsilver2033 2 года назад
@@stephenfiore9960 ...if you don't know the song you can't really consider yourself a fan of the VU or Lou Reed..lol..🤷‍♀️maybe you were joking???...
@talbotsplace7316
@talbotsplace7316 2 года назад
As a bass player, I used to staple a picture of John Entwhistle on the side of my amp.
@kirby711
@kirby711 2 года назад
@@stephenfiore9960 what does that have to do with calling Moe Tucker a heroine?
@rallemauz
@rallemauz 3 года назад
Wow, this documentary was incredibly well put together. One of the best VU documentaries I've ever seen! Excellent, Cam 👏
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thank you very much! Please give it a share if you’re able! ;)
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 3 года назад
Sometimes the RU-vid algorithm recommends some total gems, and this is one of them. I'm not even much of a VU fan, although I'm aware of how much they influence the bands I love, but this was a fascinating insight into the life and technique of a unique musician.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
I'm glad it reached you! Thanks for watching!
@rickg8015
@rickg8015 3 года назад
“A humble yet powerful grace..” Succinctly put.. It’s about time Maureen Tucker gets some solid acknowledgement.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks for your comment! I completely agree and am so pleased with the response so far to the documentary, and all the love & respect being expressed for Moe!
@tommyjonsson3154
@tommyjonsson3154 3 года назад
This is absolutely brilliant! Probably the best VU related documentary I've seen and I have probably seen if not all but most of them. Thank you very much Cam for creating this documentary.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thank you very much for saying so! 🙏🏼 Please give it a share if you’re able to! :)
@slefend2799
@slefend2799 3 года назад
Everybody knows that the VU would not have sounded as they did without Maureen Tucker's drumming. But in spite of the emotional power of their music, there lingers the widespread opinion that they 'couldn't play' and that she, in particular, wasn't a 'proper drummer'. A serious critical study of her work as a practising musician is therefore overdue and really valuable. Thank you. In the book 'up-tight' by Malanga and Bockris, she comes across as a really nice person. Laughably, her androgynous appearance seemed, at the time, quite threatening to a lot of people. In fact she used to go to church every Sunday, one of at least two people from the Factory who did. The other? Andy Warhol.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
You’re absolutely right my friend; I remember reading a quote of Ray Manzarek from The Doors saying exactly that in an interview once…who personally I don’t rate particularly highly as a rock keyboardist of that era, with people like Steve Winwood, Vincent Crane and Keith Emerson around. He slammed the VU members’ technical abilities, feeling his own band were superior simply because they were influenced by jazz musicians, when all the while both John Cale and Lou Reed were classically trained in Viola/Piano respectively, and Sterling Morrison’s guitar playing was in a league of its own. Lou Reeds dissonant guitar solos were often influenced by free-jazz players too. Maureen was the only member of the band who was untrained, but she was not a novice - she practiced regularly for three years before joining the Velvets. The fact that she had no training meant that she wasn’t bound or limited by traditional rules - that’s why I compared her playing against that of Keith Moon, since both drummers had the freedom and ability to naturally flirt with time, and often played notes and/or fills in places that trained drummers simply would not - they were doing what sounded good to the ear, rather than what made sense on paper. Every member of the Velvet Underground knew exactly what they were doing, and the multitude of unusual sounds they created were totally deliberate. Some people perceived it as unpleasant noise created by incompetent musicians, while others appreciated it for what it really was - totally original, avant-garde rock, played by very intelligent, innovative musicians.
@JMarinelli
@JMarinelli 3 года назад
They sound pretty good with Billy Yule on Live at Max’s, but Moe is on another level entirely.
@lawrencefeldman7744
@lawrencefeldman7744 3 года назад
Sir, I am scraping myself off the floor where I've been stationary for the last hour or so. This was such a godsend for VU fans world wide. Your love,soul, and attention to detail make this one of the best music docs I've seen. I am subscribing for sure!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Thanks so much for your support, and for staying the whole hour! I'm really glad you liked the documentary!
@velvetfan
@velvetfan 3 года назад
I still have not seen the new VU documentary, but this could be called one of the best sources on the VU history in existence! Very nice!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Wow thank you so much my friend, I’m so glad you found it interesting/informative. A lot of love went into this so it’s great to get such wonderful feedback. I’m also looking forward to seeing the new one, and hoping it will contain some new information and more importantly new/unseen footage of the band!
@velvetfan
@velvetfan 3 года назад
@@CAMFORRESTER very professional looking! If you could put on DVD, I guarantee it would sell many! Not dvr's, pressed DVD's! fans are always looking for something new, not just repackaging the same few bits. You have a new angle and it's edited and compiled so that even footage we have seen before has a whole new feel. I used my youTube app on my Dish and watched it on 65" screen with nice sound system. It is quality at a big size and audio not muddy or lacking. I love how the drummer helps us hear and understand her drumming in the less that audiophile quality. I just cannot tell you how much I enjoyed it! Usually I play VU videos while I answer emails; I stopped, went to the big screen and actually watched it twice! My son "likes" the VU (tired of hearing me rant, I guess) but I called him in for 2nd watch since he is a drummer. I always told him about Moe's style but me not being a musician, I never conveyed it fully. He watched the whole thing and told me, "Pop, NOW I get what you have been telling me over the years!" you should be proud. You are very talented.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
That’s amazing, I’m thrilled to hear it looks and sounds good on a big screen/sound system…I wondered how it would stand up, since I currently I do not own a TV to reference it on - the first draft was produced entirely on a 2010 13” MacBook Pro 🤣 It’s so old I had to put the thing in the fridge while exporting the film as it would overheat and fail to export otherwise! It couldn’t handle adding the revisions I made, so I transferred everything and did the final export on my parents’ iMac! I’m also thrilled to hear that it’s helped convey Moe’s importance over to your son! That’s exactly what I set out to achieve when I decided to make the film! She has influenced my own playing massively. 🙏🏼
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder 3 года назад
@@velvetfan that’s lovely!
@DrJohnPollard
@DrJohnPollard 3 года назад
The best part for me. 21:22. I never realized how important the drumming was for this possibly my favorite album.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
I'm glad you liked the demonstrations!
@davidwentworth1250
@davidwentworth1250 3 года назад
One of the best music documentaries I've seen... and being that it's self produced makes it that much more incredible. The Velvets should/would be proud. Great to see you passing along the inspiration. (Almost thought that the JAMC would be left out at the end, but no!) Bravo!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks so much for your support!
@ndogg20
@ndogg20 Год назад
Never really picked up on the Velvet Underground but after this very engaging documentary I think its time I did.
@RakkaRakkaRecords
@RakkaRakkaRecords 2 года назад
The best Velvet Underground documentary I have ever seen! I won't repeat what has already been said, but needed to thank you for making such a wonderful film. Cheers, from everyone at Rakka Rakka Records!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Thanks for you support!
@djadequate
@djadequate 3 года назад
This is actually more insightful than the Apple TV documentary. I never realized how much Mimi Parker from the band Low was influenced by Mo Tucker, and how many other bands I love also use her sound.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
I was a bit disappointed with how little Haynes' documentary looked into the actual musicianship of not just Moe, but all of the members (with the exception of John) in more depth too, but I did immensely enjoy it overall, especially considering the previously unseen footage that was included. I'm glad to hear you found my documentary informative!
@balletbabe52
@balletbabe52 2 года назад
@@CAMFORRESTER I agree that there was too much focus on John and Lou to the detriment of Sterling and Moe's contribution to the bands unique sound.
@wescarter2891
@wescarter2891 2 года назад
@@balletbabe52 Absolutely! I enjoyed it, but it quickly dawned on me that this is going to be the "Lou and John show". I wish it had showcased both Sterling and Moe much more.
@chardinetaylor-stone2533
@chardinetaylor-stone2533 3 года назад
As another stand up drummer influenced my Moe just wanna say this was an incredible documentary! Well done! Just goes to show that being yourself and finding your own style is the most important thing. An Icon! x
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks so much, I'm really glad you enjoyed it! And you're absolutely right...she's an icon indeed!
@randallalton6310
@randallalton6310 2 года назад
Mimi from Low is another inspired by Moe, now inspiring others. Stand up drummers, particularly women, are a beautiful and unique part of music.
@gobeco
@gobeco 3 года назад
Thank you very much to focus on the great Moe Tucker!!!
@dominiclewington
@dominiclewington 3 года назад
I think it’s fair to say there were plenty of female drummers in the sixties, but none were as enigmatic as Mo!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Now that my friend is a word that I should’ve used in the documentary conclusion! ;)
@ignatiusj.reilly5632
@ignatiusj.reilly5632 Год назад
As a mad Velvet Underground fan, l absolutely loved this documentary on my most favourite female drummer. Well put together & in such a professional fashion too, kudos to you, sir. Thanks, thoroughly enjoyed it.
@nolagospeltracts8264
@nolagospeltracts8264 3 года назад
This is totally amazing. Love how you show how Moe played her drum parts.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Glad you found it insightful!
@scottsteele7109
@scottsteele7109 3 года назад
Magnificent effort, can see from the other comments how this resonated with the core audience of VU lovers. You really did a great job and the pacing is smooth, so many unseen pictures, and at the top a supportive comment from her son! High praise indeed.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Absolutely! I couldn’t be more thrilled with how well it has been received. Thanks for your feedback and support! I hope to bring you more similar content soon!
@johnsluggett1822
@johnsluggett1822 2 года назад
@@CAMFORRESTER Really great!
@thekowboyelectrik7714
@thekowboyelectrik7714 3 года назад
Wow! Outstanding! Moe is my favorite one of the VU. She is probably my favorite drummer of all time. Simplicity is always better! She was a beacon of light amidst such a dark band. Thank you for putting in the effort and hard work to create this video for us!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
You are most welcome my friend! Thanks for the watching! :)
@NOWtheband
@NOWtheband 3 года назад
Usually I'm not that impressed by home-made documentaries but this one was really good and informative, especially for a musician like me. Thanks! :-)
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thank you very much for saying so. I’m glad to hear you found it informative! :)
@spybot6697
@spybot6697 3 года назад
As a drummer, this was a real gem. Thank you.
@yesnomaybe1220
@yesnomaybe1220 3 года назад
I just paused the beginning. After reading the comments this seems worthy of a fresh coffee and a joint. Hope to learn some new stuff about my 3rd favourite band.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Haha, indulge yourself ;) Peel slowly and see!
@yesnomaybe1220
@yesnomaybe1220 3 года назад
that was amazing.
@yesnomaybe1220
@yesnomaybe1220 3 года назад
@@CAMFORRESTER that was a really good run down. I have told everyone about it
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks mate I’m glad to hear that you enjoyed it! :) And thanks for sharing it also; much appreciated! 🙏🏼
@aratneerg1375
@aratneerg1375 3 года назад
Love your comment.
@elirosen1391
@elirosen1391 3 года назад
Amazing documentary! I'm amazed by how accurately you emulated Moe's drum parts, including the ones that often fall behind in the mix. Thanks very much for this!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
You’re very welcome mate, thanks a lot for the feedback! 🙏🏼
@owenwilberforce6138
@owenwilberforce6138 3 года назад
I was just listening to live What Goes On today and absolutely am thrilled to see a film dedicated to the finer points of the Velvets. What made them unique was how Reed took rhythm playing to such intense levels. Moe’s anchor playing allowed for long jams to hover while the solos floated on top. The effect was hypnotic jamming but with complex guitar rhythms dancing on a rock solid beat. No bands at that time from the Dead to the 13th Floor Elevators brought such fundamental power to their sound. With the Velvets you could say Less is Moe but it’s more satisfying because the drumming is supporting rather than trying to stand out over everything else. The ensemble was about energy over egotistical chops.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Less is Moe...you could give my title a run for it's money! Mine was a spin on Warhol 'superstar' Susan Bottomly's alias; 'International Velvet'.
@drearyvintage42
@drearyvintage42 3 года назад
This is fantastic! I'm a longtime VU fan, but not a drummer (keyboards). I learned so much from this. Thank you!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thank you for watching! I'm glad you found it insightful!
@kevmac1230
@kevmac1230 3 года назад
I'm wondering if any of the "greats" of drumming have acknowledged Mos' influence?
@dynjarren8355
@dynjarren8355 2 года назад
Finally! Maureen Tucker, the drummer for the Velvet Underground gets the attention, respect and recognition she deserves after all these years. I always enjoyed her drumming or percussion if you like. She had a unique approach and style that was all her own which fit in perfectly with the innovative and unique style of the Velvet Underground band. She made a huge contribution to the bands sound and therefore to rock music in general. Thank you so much for this great documentary! I am forever grateful. Go Moe Go!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Thanks for your support! Glad you enjoyed the documentary!
@weirdie54
@weirdie54 2 года назад
An excellent documentary and a well-deserved tribute to a unique musician, I especially loved the analysis of her drumming on White Light/White Heat, never realized it was that powerful
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Thank you. And yes her playing on WL/WH was brilliant...just primitive power!
@petershim5900
@petershim5900 2 года назад
Moe singing 'I'm Sticking With You'... I suddenly started crying with great joy. Up to now I can't understand why. I was just struck. 😭😭 It's so unpretentious and so different? All Hail Moe Tucker!!! 🤩🤩🤩❤🙏🏼
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Those 1993 performances really were magical! The crowd were with her all the way! What an amazing feeling that must have been...
@petermorris3312
@petermorris3312 3 года назад
Exactly. We've heard every opinion on the Velvets, but very few people understand what they do and why they did it...
@KyOte13
@KyOte13 2 года назад
It absolutely warms my heart to see Moe finally getting her due. She completely revolutionized popular drumming in the 60s, & in true Velvets-style, continues to make music accessible and individual to all players looking for their own voice. She is a legend, and the Velvet Underground is the most important band in history. Thank You for this, Cam.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Nice words...couldn't agree more! You're very welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@timacann
@timacann Год назад
Warms the heart indeed. I think I’ve got something stuck in my eye.
@dk7934
@dk7934 3 года назад
This is long overdue. And I particularly enjoyed the brilliant drum recreations you performed so that we can really see and hear what Moe was doing. Well done!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Glad you liked the demonstrations! Thanks for watching!
@incitatusdelaruinalparaiso3166
@incitatusdelaruinalparaiso3166 2 года назад
Thanks for the documentary. I do think this the the best band from the 60s Rock age and this drummer deserves a singular attention. I only miss the unexpected VU performance at Fondation Cartier in 1990, but percussionist lovers will be caught by the wise explanations you have provided.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Thanks for your comment. The 1990 performance omission was a conscious decision; Moe was long out of practice, and her playing wasn't very coherent. She was also playing electric drums, which really didn't sound great. By the time of the actual reunion a few years later, she was much better rehearsed, and the Heroin performance showcases Moe at her mightiest - so I chose to spotlight that instead. Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad you enjoyed the documentary!
@incitatusdelaruinalparaiso3166
@incitatusdelaruinalparaiso3166 2 года назад
@@CAMFORRESTER I disagree, she played well in the 1990 reunion. And even it did not well, that´s a so important event and you should not avoid. Anyway, thanks for the film again.
@dominicking8089
@dominicking8089 3 года назад
really wonderful stuff. have always thought Moe's drumming was perfect for the Velvets but this thoughtful, affection film really showed how adaptable and nuanced she was.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
It was indeed a match made in heaven! Thanks so much for your support 🙏🏼
@dominicking8089
@dominicking8089 3 года назад
@@CAMFORRESTER all good my g, excited to see where you take this channel
@sandyatkins6978
@sandyatkins6978 4 месяца назад
What a great doc! And now I know why even some of the more difficult VU songs kept me entranced. It was Moe's bedrock drumming.
@russellurwin7396
@russellurwin7396 3 года назад
Absolutley fantastic. i have been a VU fan since 1972 and in those days the only information available were the LP covers and liner notes. In the eighties a number of decent books appeared and when the internet grew a lot of bootlegs and footage emerged with recently a few seconds here and there colour film of the VU live courtesy of A. Warhol (i wish he had filmed it straight). There is quite a lot of photographs and a few clips i havent seen before. i can honestly say i have enjoyed this more and this includes offical TV documentaries etc well done. U2 have based their entire career on I'm set free (slight exaggeration). You must have ears of a bat to hear Moes drumming from the original recordings. hope you do a full breakdown of There she goes again at some point.Thanks again for doing this and i hope it is seen by Moe and reaches wide aclaim.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thank you so much for your wonderful review Russell; it means so much, and especially so, coming from someone who has been a fan of the band's music for as long as you have. A lot of love went into making this, and it's great to receive it back in turn from fellow fans! I too hope it reaches Moe ♥. It's difficult to imagine how different my life would be now, if I'd never picked up that drumming book in my school library with the little Moe segment in it...I still can't explain exactly why I was so intrigued by it either, but she and the band really did change my life after that. Like yourself, I too was frustrated at the lack of available documentaries etc., since all there was at the time was Live MCMXCIII, which though visually fantastic, was at times actually quite frustrating (Lou did have a tendency to take the "never play [or sing] the same thing twice" phrase a bit too literally sometimes lol). The 1986 Southbank Show documentary didn't surface on RU-vid until sometime in the last decade, and other than the unofficial 'Under Review' documentary, it's literally just scraps here and there otherwise - and regardless, in anything I ever read or saw, I always felt that Moe's role was somewhat passed over, so for me it was time to put that right! It will be interesting to see what the new Todd Haynes documentary brings to light... =)
@baronsaturday9529
@baronsaturday9529 3 года назад
Her son made a comment above and loved the docu, so he probably already send it to her!
@julius2790
@julius2790 3 года назад
This is an amazing documentary! I have always loved her drumming and she seemed like the coolest person in interviews. Thanks so much for this.
@OffMyShelves
@OffMyShelves 3 года назад
I absolutely loved every second of this! Top class video, great research, production and insights 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks for the comment! 🙏🏼
@stevenhudson7313
@stevenhudson7313 Год назад
Outstanding. Thank you.
@nitemareman1
@nitemareman1 3 года назад
This is a wonderful film. Only someone with a great appreciation for Mo's unique skills could have created this. You did a great job balancing explaining Mo's technical skills and set up with simply being an entertaining film about some incredible rock n' roll heroes. GREAT JOB!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Thanks very much for your feedback, I really appreciate it, and am very happy to hear you liked the film!
@BruceWalther-s2l
@BruceWalther-s2l 4 месяца назад
I can't believe I never saw The Trio of Lou, John, and Mo paying tribute to Sterling at the RHOF induction ceremony. That last shot of John Cale "(Saying) goodbye to my friend..." brought a tear to my eye. I went back after the conclusion of the doc to view and listen to "Last night ...", again, and remind how young 'Sterl' was and the ducts swelled again. Lou sweetly smiles at Mo's lyric and her heartfelt pounding drum. Cale exhales and rises from his piano. Goodbye dear friends. Sterling Morrison 1942-1995; Lou Reed 1942-2013
@stevedocherty6240
@stevedocherty6240 3 года назад
Thanks for this there's something very moving about someone who seems quite genuine and unassuming ending up as this rock'n'roll legend. I have loved the Velvet Underground for most of my life and Moe was so important to their sound.
@haresbreathtarot
@haresbreathtarot 3 года назад
Cam, this is a seriously WONDERFUL creation. Technical, Insightful, thoughtful, tender filmmaking with passion and integrity. Thank you so much x my partner and I are sharing it like mad with everyone we know who loves the Velvets like we do
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Wow that’s such wonderful feedback, I couldn’t be happier that it has come across so well…thank you so much! And thank you for sharing also! 🥰
@3340steve
@3340steve 3 года назад
Excellent lesson on Moe Tucker's unique style. Thank you for posting this Mr. Forrester.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
You’re more than welcome, thanks for the support! 😉
@snogezr
@snogezr 2 года назад
I also wish to cast my vote as best music documentary I have seen on RU-vid. Your presentation of the information is superb. The background history of Mo Tucker is completely new to me. One cannot spend an hour more enjoyably than to watch this video.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
That's so nice of you to say...thank you very much!
@1971bdott
@1971bdott 3 года назад
Great work excellent documentary thank you for making it. I had the privilege of meeting Moe Tucker three times the first time I was 19 years old it was quite a long time ago but I’ll tell you she’s the sweetest most loveable lady you’ll ever meet. One of the first thing she said to me was don’t you ever do drugs you’ll wast a beautiful life. It always brings a tear to Mayeye when I think about Moe I really love her a lot she’s sweet
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks very much! How wonderful that you were able to meet her…thank you for sharing. She always comes across as the most loveable and down to earth person in interviews.
@RFL1976
@RFL1976 Год назад
So glad this YT vid popped up for me and i clicked, i have been binge watching Lou Reed interviews therefore I am getting a lot of VU stuff on my timeline, the creators passion for the topic shone through and this was a pleasure to watch
@ergbudster3333
@ergbudster3333 3 года назад
Amazing detail. Perhaps this is the way music production docs should be done? Full of details that music production oriented people would like to know. Music production and show business in general although I guess we don't call show business show business any more; now I guess it's media. Well, these people were doing media before most people even heard of the thing.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
I definitely concur! Thanks for the support 🙏🏼
@TracyJohnson-sp9ng
@TracyJohnson-sp9ng Год назад
I love this. Thank you so much for this. It's so refreshing to see one of these youtube docs, that truly shows respect for it's subject. I can't tell you how many times I've tried watching docs on this channel that use ai narration and disjointed stock footage and music that has nothing to do with the band or singer in question. Brilliant! Keep it coming.
@johnweyers2685
@johnweyers2685 3 года назад
Mo Tucker and Charlie Watts - rock steady and totally unique. As a drummer myself, they are my favorites hands down.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Both of them and Ringo were three of a kind!
@dantean
@dantean 3 года назад
Try Aynsley Dunbar.
@raysmith1630
@raysmith1630 3 года назад
Rest in peace Charlie Watts.
@berndjenter4005
@berndjenter4005 3 года назад
Jaki Liebezeit of the german band 'Can' did a really good job too !
@jameshafner1442
@jameshafner1442 3 года назад
R.I.P Charlie Watts.
@djinnmagik2003
@djinnmagik2003 2 месяца назад
Thank you for making this video for one of the most original drummers in our Muzik Biz: MO TUCKER! In my opinion, Moe Tucker and Keith Moon RIP of The Who are two of the most original drummers of all time. You're a good drummer yourself, Cam. I really enjoyed this video for this is like my third time watching the video since you've posted it. Thanks again for this awesome video 🤙🏻
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 месяца назад
Thank you, I'm really glad you have enjoyed it enough to re-watch! You might also like my Sterling Morrison documentary if you haven't seen it already - ru-vid.com/group/PLXFuVjTBILlgbL7vPV_j8aZiZ2njZTpoY
@andrewvarley9093
@andrewvarley9093 3 года назад
Fascinating for Velvet fans. This is a great find and hope more people see it. Love it.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks for the support! Glad you enjoyed it! :)
@adkein
@adkein Год назад
Thank you! I have never played the drums or thought much about them but this video hooked me and I’m so glad I found it.
@aeriumuk
@aeriumuk 3 года назад
This documentary was a fantastic surprise, best thing I've watched in quite a while, brilliant work! I've recommended it to others and subscribed! Great job! 😎
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thank you so much for the support, and for sharing it out! Much appreciated!
@TitusK
@TitusK Год назад
Just brilliant! Great work. Exhaustive and illuminating. Thanks
@thefutureispast5848
@thefutureispast5848 3 года назад
Stunning documentary, one of the best I’ve seen anywhere.. I really liked your demonstrations because, as you say, it’s pretty hard to work out what mo is playing on the originals due to the fidelity. Thanks
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks for your comment! Indeed it used to kill me how much she was overpowered in the mix on the WL/WH album especially. I am planning to do some full-length drum cover videos of entire songs (as opposed to clips like here in the documentary) soon, so keep your eye out for those!
@jasonlynn1017
@jasonlynn1017 3 года назад
Thank you for making this superior, well informed documentary, which should have been made decades ago, you are loved by VU fans all over the globe for making it, kid. Your narrative and precise analysis makes the film damn good, and far beyond the sensibilities of major studios always trying to blobify, over-simplify, and outright extinguish detail, exactitude, and intellectuality. Here's an example of why you are so great: you point out that Moe stopped playing on Heroin, and note its artistic result. Now most of us have heard this sublime climax of this sublime song hundreds of times, yet never reflected on why the song has such powerful effect, technically. You are wholly right: the drums stopping makes for a perfect pause for the insane, surreal musical explosion: that explosion is the sound of a psyche coming apart in both ecstasy and angst. Lou and John are in Godly fulmination---but they all are. That the massive studios in Hollywood with hundreds of millions of dollars in their hands so consistently FAIL to deliver material obviously wanted by audiences says all one need to know about the PHILISTINERY AND PIGGERY ruling Hollywood. See also Jay Bulgar's home made documentary about Ginger Baker; and another homemade documentary by another filmmaker(whose name I cannot recall) about guitar super- duo Steve Hunter and Dick Wagner who made the sublime sound of Lou Reed's Berlin, and Rock n Roll Animal, as well as Alice Cooper s mid 70s tour and Welcome To My Nightmare, etc. WAKE UP HOLLYWOOD, YOU FUCKLESS AVARICE MONGERS AND KITSCH-OCRATS: The new kids matter more than you do, because aristo-taste has nothing to do with $$$$$$ and finally determines greatness. Behold all the genius American poets from Ezra Pound forward, and all the American artists, etc., that go unsung by Hollywood.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thank you so much for your comment my friend. The response to this film has been quite overwhelming to be honest, I really didn't expect it to resonate quite the way it has with so many people...but at the same time, it also makes complete sense; because after all, I'm a fan just like everybody else of course - sure I'm somewhat emotionally invested, but also being a musician, I'm fortunate enough to still remain critical and impartial (at least to the necessary degree) - and as such I know to include all of the things that constantly get missed out or neglected in studio documentaries which leave us all underwhelmed, and thinking "why didn't they talk about...?" I guess it's all so normal or obvious to me, that perhaps I just underestimated the impact a film that contained those things might have. All I can say is, I look forward to making more content much like this going forward, now that my channel is growing - all thanks to the support of people like yourself - and I'm very, very excited to see where it all leads!
@classic_joke
@classic_joke Год назад
This video is truly a gift for all the velvet fans and music fans in general. Thank you very much. It was so insightful and the demonstrations were very interesting to see. I also appreciate that you know when to allow the music to speak for itself by showing us the most important parts of the recordings or shows and not cutting them out. I can imagine this might cause some copyright problems, so I'm extremely grateful to you for doing that, despite those issues. Your video truly made me appreciate Moe on a deeper and more understanding level.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Год назад
I appreciate your comments - thank you. And yes you are correct, there were several copyright claims (I cannot monetise the video whatsoever) but it was worth the sacrifice to include said music/video, to ensure the film was as comprehensive as it could be, and thankfully it is still able to remain on here despite all the claims. I'm glad it was insightful and you enjoyed watching!
@3XATHAT
@3XATHAT 2 года назад
Brilliant !!! A Wonderful Depth Sounding Perception into the World of a Brilliant & Wonderful Musician... Thank You Greatly...Cheers AAA
@matildesquillante3147
@matildesquillante3147 Год назад
i wish there was such an accurate doc about every music hero. thanks!!!!!
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev 2 года назад
Fantastic work. Bravo! I learned a lot.
@karlsinclair9918
@karlsinclair9918 3 года назад
Lovely job on making this and I loved seeing Moe play. She was great.
@williammartin2593
@williammartin2593 2 года назад
Excellent documentation in every way. I am 70 now and the music is still great.
@GIBKEL
@GIBKEL 2 года назад
Seeing your passion for The Velvet…have you ever listened to The Feelies? When I was getting into the Velvet Underground it was alongside The Feelies and Yo La Tengo. I so loved my youth and discovering music in the 80’s and early 90’s. There was some really great bands and they always name checked there roots so finding connections was easy, even before the internet. It was such intimate discovery as I worked in a record store, alongside older clerks who schooled me in 86’. Still one of the best jobs I ever had even though it was the lowest pay. On top of that, I seems to lose a quarter of my wages every two weeks. Enjoyed it immensely! Keep it up!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
I haven't so far...but I will add them to my check-out list! Thanks so much for your comment!
@tomscholte603
@tomscholte603 2 года назад
I was lucky enough to see The Feelies open for REM in 1987. Great gig!
@mariaisabelcarrillo6315
@mariaisabelcarrillo6315 Год назад
I'm 57 and started listening to the Velvet back in 84, and from the beginning Moe's drumming hit me real hard. "Foggy Notion" came on VU album around then and it was incredible how she was playing like Tommy Ramone would 10 years later! Thanks for this wonderful documentary.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Год назад
Be sure to check this out too then! 😉 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-73LJXA74O3A.html
@renafielding945
@renafielding945 3 года назад
I love this. Every minute is riveting. Listening to this, I realized I knew every lick by heart. Country come to town in 1969 in New York, petrified and mesmerized by the East Village. How many other bumpkins had this experience? Thank you for showing me one more big reason why it drilled into my soul.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@keithbutler2222
@keithbutler2222 Год назад
This is really well researched and a fitting tribute. Beautifully put together
@silverwolf3745
@silverwolf3745 3 года назад
Cam this was a great video, I learned a lot about Mo that I didn't know before, she was an innovative drummer, I hadn't realised about how she set up the percussion for different songs, thanks for this and the mention, Karen Carpenter was one of the best drummers that I've ever heard male or female.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
No problem my friend, I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Please share it out in any way you can - Moe does not get nearly enough credit for her contributions to music - I'm hoping this documentary may help change that! And yes I absolutely agree; Karen Carpenter was amazing...such an unbelievable talent both as a musician, and as singer. Her drumming was praised by the great Buddy Rich (who seldom praised anyone)...and her voice to me is the purest and most perfect female vocal ever recorded!
@silverwolf3745
@silverwolf3745 3 года назад
I will share this and I agree she doesn't get the recognition that she deserves.
@dingosmith9932
@dingosmith9932 2 года назад
I haven't watched this yet but I already love it!
@klaustoth6982
@klaustoth6982 3 года назад
thanks for this enjoyable documentary. moe's wild and driving "african-style" drumming was absolutely essential to the velvets's overall sound. love her sweet vocals on after hours.
@hanahomolka6045
@hanahomolka6045 2 года назад
Thanks very much for this excelent documentary
@psychinthevalleys5324
@psychinthevalleys5324 2 года назад
This is a wonderful piece of work. I’ve loved the Velvets since I was 16 but you’ve made me love them even more. I know nothing about drumming but this was fascinating. I’m glad that Moe’s son has contacted you. It is really quite moving in places. I was lucky to see the Velvets during their reunion, at Glastonbury of all places. Moe was awesome. All the best to you for all your time and effort in making this. Cheers, Steve.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Thanks for your comment, I'm glad the drumming aspect was of interest. And yes I've had quite a few people say that they found the film moving towards the end, which is wonderful as Moe's story moved me of course - which is why I wanted to make the film in the first place - so I'm so glad that's come across in the way I constructed and narrated the film. Hearing from Moe's son (and Moe herself since then) has been one of my proudest moments...very humbling, and incredibly rewarding for a life-long fan!
@anthonykimball7463
@anthonykimball7463 3 года назад
Very good work!👍Thanks especially for including some photos & film clips I don't recall seeing anywhere before.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
No worries, glad you enjoyed it!
@christopher_ecclestone
@christopher_ecclestone 3 года назад
This is great, I really enjoyed it. Your channel will grow in no time with content like this. So good! 👍
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks mate I’m really glad you enjoyed it. I appreciate your feedback also, and hope to bring you more content soon!
@LouSmith
@LouSmith 2 года назад
That was really a great doc. I was actually completely dumb as to Moe's background or style of drumming despite being a huge VU fan over the decades. Thanks so much for the love and care you obviously have for the subject. Much appreciated.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
No worries! Glad it was informative to you :)
@reavsey1
@reavsey1 3 года назад
Thank you very much for sharing this. Always been a big VU fan and they have been with me for most of my life influencing my own meanderings. So unique in many respects and Mo was an integral part of their sound. Thank you for breaking down her contribution and the insights. Wishing you luck with all you do. You are the man. :)
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
You’re entirely welcome! Glad you enjoyed the documentary and thanks so much for the support! 🙏🏼
@NewFalconerRecords
@NewFalconerRecords 3 года назад
Just been rediscovering the Velvets for the 87th time this week so this video couldn't have been more timely. Absolutely magnificent work sir. Consider me subscribed!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks for the subscription! Glad you enjoyed it!
@NewFalconerRecords
@NewFalconerRecords 3 года назад
@@CAMFORRESTER When I made my original comment I'd only watched the first half of this video, I've now watched the second half and WOW! Double everything I just said. This doco you made is truly special. The stuff covering the reformation was truly moving, and the fact that you've got Moe and her family giving their tick of approval says everything to me. Absolute first class work, well done!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
​@@NewFalconerRecords I was truly humbled to hear from Moe and her family, I couldn't have wished for more! Thank you so much for your support, and I hope to bring you more content like this in the very near future!
@nilesspindrift1934
@nilesspindrift1934 3 года назад
Really enjoyed this - I like your no nonsense presentation too. It only struck me tonight how Motorik some of her playing was, not just the patterns but also the way it pushes the song along. Anyway, thank you.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ghostexits
@ghostexits Год назад
This drum analysis is amazing. I’ve been listening to these songs my whole life and it never occurred to me that there’s only a single snare on Run Run Run, for instance. I just assumed the other drums were lost in the mix, but it’s really all intentional.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Год назад
I actually got that one slightly wrong in the film - she is in fact playing a hi-hat and a snare in 'Run Run Run'. I used the remastered mono mix by mistake when I was referencing the song, in which it's almost impossible to distinguish because the percussion is so muddy...but later when analysing the song again for my upcoming next batch of video tutorials, I referenced the remastered stereo mix and you can clearly hear the hi-hat in the left channel. There She Goes Again was indeed snare-only though. But to your point, yes the percussion was deliberately primitive on this record, it's not until 'White Light/White Heat' that the poor recording and mixing had a really detrimental effect on what could be heard in the songs.
@ghostexits
@ghostexits Год назад
@@CAMFORRESTER I knew Mo played standing up with a small set, only used a ride. But it’s really striking to watch it being played. The playing is very economic even given the paired down drum set. After seeing clips when it came out, I thought it was best that I didn’t watch the reunion video. I didn’t want that impression of the VU in my mind. The way Reed started singing live in the 70s, like he’s doing a send-up of his own songs, with the monotone pitch he adopted in the 80s, and his guitar dominating over the mix, the songs are barely recognizable. But, despite all that, the clip of Heroin wasn’t too bad and was amazing to see Tucker performing.
@theuncoolbird
@theuncoolbird 3 года назад
Beautiful documentary. It deserves more views.
@baronsaturday9529
@baronsaturday9529 3 года назад
It's gonna get more views, the cult ones mostly take a bit of time, and when people realise how well done this one is, more people will take notice... Sharing will help too of course.
@petergeyer7584
@petergeyer7584 3 года назад
A wonderful document and tribute to a great artist. Since my first time discovering The Velvet Underground & Nico as a teenager in the mid-80s, I was fascinated by Moe Tucker, but until now I never really understood technically how she approached her role and her drums. She is absolutely unique and criminally underrated.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! And indeed she is!
@smop
@smop 3 года назад
This is incredible! I love the way you analyzed the drum parts for the different songs, a whole new perspective to the music for me, and I’ve loved the music for decades now.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks, I'm glad you found it informative!
@Lukronius
@Lukronius 2 года назад
This is an incredible documentary! I came away an even bigger fan of Moe, the VU, and Lou Reed. Thank you so much for this!!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
You're very welcome!
@martinernstbruhn6286
@martinernstbruhn6286 2 года назад
Absolutely agree!!!
@ilias4156
@ilias4156 2 года назад
This answers so many baffling questions I have had, started listening in 1990, age 12. Makes so much sense, the sound and feel, so unique. Very nice. I believe I am more stoked on the drums in these recordings than ever. Cheers
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
I'm glad you found it informative! Indeed I'm sure I had many of the same questions as you over the years of listening since I was 12...thankfully all the obscure answers I was able to learn finally formed themselves into this documentary!
@digitaldosage1979
@digitaldosage1979 5 месяцев назад
So good...very nicely done deep- dive into a band that i love dearly.
@cryco9897
@cryco9897 3 года назад
I think I've seen everything there is to see on the VU and this was just brilliant, well done sir and thankyou
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thank you for such wonderful feedback! I’m so glad you liked it! :)
@zedudli
@zedudli 3 года назад
Absolutely terrific piece of work. Bravo 👏🏻
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks for watching! 🙏🏼
@guswanner3247
@guswanner3247 3 года назад
Well Done Sir. Thank you for this work.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks for support! 🙏🏼
@timneave3240
@timneave3240 3 года назад
Oh man. You made my day. Thanks for your work.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
No problem, you're very welcome. Thanks for watching!
@MikeySKA
@MikeySKA 3 года назад
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Thank you for this, Cam! Cannot recommend this walkthrough of Moe's influence and style more highly. Just superb!!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks very much for saying so my friend! Please do share it out in any way you're able to!
@MikeySKA
@MikeySKA 3 года назад
@@CAMFORRESTER Already done! My Twitter followers got a nice heads up! 👍
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 3 года назад
Thanks mate, gotta spread the word on Moe! She's too often overlooked as a figure in drumming history.
@MikeySKA
@MikeySKA 3 года назад
@@CAMFORRESTER Absolutely. There's no VU sound without Moe. And if there's no VU sound, then 40+ years of bands afterwards don't sound the same either.
@kerrilynn3952
@kerrilynn3952 Год назад
I really enjoyed this. Thank you for making this video!
@snakefinger
@snakefinger 3 года назад
The way you laid out Mo’s approach, growth, and type of gear she was using on the drums makes this very easy to watch for someone with no clue who Mo was before this. Besides just tremendously enjoyable to watch.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
Thank you, I'm very glad to hear that!
@georgevazquez9435
@georgevazquez9435 Год назад
beautifully put she deserves more recognition as a drummer and a powerhouse of the band. As a frontman t’s so hard to play covers of the Velvet with a drummer because of how their ego ends up over doing it. To serve the song and serve the band a humble approach is dreadfully needed. Class band, class drummer
@gps8958
@gps8958 2 года назад
My friend, if the likes of Sky Arts wanted to get people to take their saccharine efforts at showing meaningful, insightful documentaries seriously, they could do no better than showing this. Well done 👏
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER 2 года назад
One can hope! Thanks so much ;)
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