Most of the countries buying F35 have no other choice because of their various alliances or ties w. USA. In Europe, NATO members whose plane should carry US nukes haven't the choice, even if the Pentagon describes the plane as very problematic and a nightmare for operational costs.... The choice of non US planes is evident for countries with a " more problematic relation " with USA. Top choice is Dassault's Rafale, followed by SAAB's Gripen and at last Eurofighter. French planes are combat proven, the F35 not... French aviation has proven many times to be " la crème de la crème " if not convinced ask Israël.... I'm not French but I have to point out that the French bashing observed in various sectors like aviation, missiles, submarines, surface vessels among others is disgusting. What's the purpose ??? Only industrial or make France pay his independence of view on various international problems beginning w. refusing to participate to the invasion of Iraq after presentation of false proofs of mass destruction weapons in UN assembly ???? When you see what a nightmare USA and UK have created in Australia with Aukus.... after cancelation of contract with French Naval Group, Australia who urgently needs subs to face China will have to wait between 15 and 20 years before receiving new US made subs and has now to renovate already obsolete subs.... And all this only to evince France of the market. But doing so, all nations in need of subs have tried to understand the reasons of... Result... for many the french subs are the best choice in terms of price, operating costs and delay... AUKUS is a real boost for French naval industry... thank you USA and UK !!! But Australia has now a big, big, big problem
The main European economies, UK, Germany, Italy already produce a 4.5-generation fighter, the Eurofighter, and therefore have no reason to buy the Rafale. The F-35 must be seen as a platform that will replace other types of aircraft such as the Panavia Tornado and the only modern vertical take-off fighter
@@67claudius If I understand you well... Rafale buyers are masochists ? All tests are showing the Rafale superiority, not for everything, but globally superior. It takes more than 10 years for the Rafale to be at this level and generation 5 is even more promising. If it takes more than 10 years for the F35, all actual conflicts will be behind and France (maybe w. Germans) will have the next generation plane. After the Rafale, the Gripen JAS39 seems to be an excellent choice with the future MS20 upgrade. If you read Pentagon''s comments on F35... nothing to be proud of....
@@p4olo537 Only because most of them must be able to carry US nukes. And for Washington US nukes on Rafale, Eurofighter or Gripen will never be accepted. Business is business
Thanks for this very accurate vidéo and to recognize this plane is a Good one despite the overwhelming Us aerial supériority ( I am French). It’s an omni rôle fighter, like well known Mirage III. Just a point, since France belongs to NATO, i am not sure we will deliver the last F6 version in the Middle east countries😅
Ok so as CRUX hasn’t got information from Dassault itself, here’s the challenge Dassault faces. As of today, Merignac’s assembly line can build 11,2 jets a year. Of course, that would not be enough to satisfy the french air force and navy AND the foreign customers. So by the end of year 2024 Merignac will triple its capability to 3 jets per month, 36 jets a year. But Dassault is also actively preparing the creation of overseas assembly lines in Indonesia and probably India. Plus Thales, the key manufacturer for all thing optronics, radars and so on, is building new assembly lines, specially 10 km away from my house here in Cholet, France. 1 000 employees + R&D high school/university campus. So all in all, Dassault and Thales make everything possible to satisfy their customers.
The Rafale and all its weapons are 100% french made. No need of US authorization to buy it or to use it. That is a major competitive advantage for potential buyers
@@fredericmuller7064 l'AASM est système de guidage de bombes et d'augmentation de portée, ce n'est pas une bombe en tant que telle. Les bombes en question sont des GBU/BLU américaines, fabriquées sous licence en France.
Actually, not, several sub-systems on the Rafale are not made in France , as an example the ejection seats are made by Martin-Baker in the UK. And as everyone knows, the UK is the the 51th US state, so they'l do as their master say.😇
@@tototata4474 Faux, il faut savoir que Martin/Baker à une joint venture qui est détenue à 50% par Safran une entreprise française (cocorico) et construit les fameux siège éjectable MkF16F du Rafale en France et si les USA force les anglais à refusé de nous les livrés, safran serait capable d'en fabriquer un car elle à les infrastructure et le savoir faire. Et qu'elles sont les autres composants ou sous-système anglo-saxon qui équipe le Rafale, j'attend. Ha et une chose encore soit plus gentil avec les anglais car je ne pense pas qu'il aimerait beaucoup ta petite remarque les concernant, car c'est déplacé.
International competition is a good thing, and better France benefit than Russia or China. The Rafale has an excellent reputation for performance and reliability, unlike its communist competitors. The F-35 is not a good match for most of these countries, as it's designed to operate in the US system of intermeshed information warfare, which these countries lack.
Ahh but if you believe Congressional testimony, the F-35 combat readiness seems lacking at about 30%. If so, the F-35 is a costly mistake, like the Littoral ships.
Aaaahhhhhhhh, but that poor rate of combat readiness doesn't seem to have diminished the Middle Eastern countries' DESIRE for the F-35. You want to explain that to me, wise guy?
@@mikelee2213 I can do it, and I'm from France. The main reasons why many countries buy the F35 are: 1) It's politic, when you buy jets, specially large orders, the supplier has to do something for you in exchange (purchase your local products, deal about the VISAS etc...) 2 ) the F35 is an international program, multiple countries participate to the creation of this jet.The plane has been designed to be exported, since the beginning (unlike the F22). 3 ) When you already have US materials in your inventory, you are almost obliged to continue to buy from the US because otherwise they will pressure you and tell you that you will be placed at the bottom of the queue when you will want support for your material... 4 ) If you are a country that has ou want the nuclear bomb (from the US) you are OBLIGED to buy US jets to be able to carry it (this is why Germany is buying the F35)
lol turkiye does not need rafale turkiye does not use frence weapons they are not even a choice for turkiye and soon turkiye will give up usa weapons too and becomes very independent
Les turcs s’en tapent royalement car ils sont sur le projet kaan qui a fait son premier vol d’essai et de plus l’industriel bayraktar vient également de sortir de ses usines un drone de chasse la Turquie avance à pas de géant il y’a aussi le drone anka 3 et le petit chasseur hurjet
@@Teipd170 et si tu AS une idée dans le domaine de l’aéronautique tu va comprendre que quesqui propose et quesqui veulent ne ce fait pas dans les 10 prochaine année. Alors sur cela je leur souhaite bonne continuation, mais un peu de sérieux dans le présent actual, ils ont nullepart près d’être maître dans les airs.
Don't the US pressure Israel not to sell Israeli made weapons to nations deemed rogue by the US as well? Why did the US panic when Israel was about to sell China Israeli made AEW&C systems?
The F4 version of the rafale can detect and track any 5th gen fighter, so considering those 5th gen jets put all their eggs in the same basket "stealth" it's a better choice to order a Rafale who can do any type of mission + is way more maneuverable than a 5th gen + can detect any plane with very small signature + is LESS expensive to operate ...
I m not sure that rafale F4 can detect stealth aircraft because this radar usefull for an aircraft is still in test in france. The prototype is too big to be installed on a Rafale. I have seen a report with a Pod radar to detect stealth aircraft under an airplane for test. This technology is not ready yet or too big or not efficient yet. It will be may be for the next version F5 or 6 th generation fighter in 2035.
@@stephen10. my informations come from the CEO of Dassault... the F4 main goal was to upgrade all the sensors and different types of radars to detect and track anything ...
@@stephen10. It's not a prototype, it's already operational.. the pilot has nothing todo the SPECTRA system will use all the sensors and centralize the datas for the pilot, it's automated
@@johndoe-cd9vt On the photography , you see a pod under a glider , it is a prototype of passiv radar to detect stealth but it 's still in test. It 's too big to be installed inside a rafale.
Where has the F35 broken down, the F35 I which is exclusive to Israel and modified by Israel has flown through Iran and bypassed all of Irans S400 batteries, the Rafaele can't do that.
@@TheSarinaide yous see in 🇺🇦 everything passes S300 and S400 even detroyed by non stealth at all SCALP missiles. Anyway israelians F35 did good job. But cannot carry big missiles ( limited room inside big F35)
@@TheSarinaidele rafale est équipé du système spectra sa le rend furtif et indétectable on peut observer les systèmes spectra au niveau du gouvernail arrière et autour du fuselage 😊
@@TheSarinaidehey f35 35 was made for different purposes if just for example if you are entering an enemies area f35was the best no one beat that do the work and back to home . But same time operating customer so expensive and f35 not multiple role fighter Rafael was fit on that category . 😄 Most of country need was multiple role of fighter most of country they are priority was Rafael 🤗 Rafael was fantastic 😍 plane even it was a 4.5 generation but they have ability to super Cruze that was the fifth generation 😉
@@frednoname3714 Where did you get these news? If everything passes S-300/400, then how come there's no fighter left in Ukriane? And F-35 is detectable by S-400 radar. So go cope harder.
I live near Fort Worth and go to the Alliance Air Show every few years. I've seen the F-35 zooming around near Lockheed Martin's facility and it does look so cool. However, it has never been tested in any real combat other than dropping bombs on farmers and tribesmen. Based on what I've seen the past two years in Ukraine, I'd go with the Rafale. That war has shown definitively that the "expensive wunderwaffe" falls on its face in a long war vs. a peer foe. The less advanced, less expensive machine that can be produced at scale, and more easily supported is the champion the longer the war goes on.
I guess you haven't noticed how Israel has used them to fly all around S400's in Syria and attack Syrian airports at will. Well, let me point that out for you. They will NEVER be tested because no one can come close to testing them. Israel just used them to attack Iran as well,
Whatever made you conclude that the Rafale, at $135,000,000 a copy, with a very thin spares allocation due to very low production numbers would ever fit your above description? What you are describing is the Gripen which is the only jet that is really built like the old A10 was, genuinely tough and solid.
The issue with US equipment is not that they are not effective, they are really effective when they can operate in a manner they were intended to operate in. M1 tanks were not designed to operate as a lone wolf without support from infantry and other armored vehicles
@@costcontrolteam2618 when you read a price for a plane you need to look at what it is speaking about; this price for the rafale is 1 plane+pilot AND mecanician formation + weapon/missiles + spare parts + industrial know how. but yes the rafale is not a plane like the grippen but it is an omnirole plane so when you don't want to buy 2-3 differents planes it is great for logistics.
Rafale is also ITAR free which means that if the US are not happy with you, you will still be able to use, supply and operate the jetfighter. Otherwise the lack of spare parts and ammunition controlled by the US will certainly ground your fleet of F-35s, F-16s,… in just days most probably !
@@Hypersonic-es6vhno it is not! The seat for instance, they create a subsidiary for maintenance but the seat is not designed by a French company. Processors and electronics, not all sub items are designed and manufactured in France.
@@Pilote12F Yes you are absolutely right. Still few components are not 100% ITAR free which is still a concern. Apparently this will be resolved and in any case not fully a concern for operating the Rafale even with the lack of support of the US…
It is just that Rafale IS the beast ! This aircraft is simply the best, it can do everything with incredible brio! .....F35 is sensitive to the rain! Can you imagine?....LOL
@@NATObait The F-35 was even forbidden to fly near lightning (ironic as it is its nickname) because it was hazardous to the plane and pilot. The question was been addressed during the past months, supposedly they overcome the issue but its not really official yet. Plus, there are many other downsides to the F-35. For instance, not talking about the plane which still have a lot of flaws, production lines are not able to deliver the US bought airplanes this year (Lockheed Martin is the source here) and the new upgrades to take place this year till july can only be happening after the beginning of the year's 3/4 (again Lockheed Martin is the main source). "corridor" conversation is already stating the US will not be able to get the 1700 something F-35's planned, so I'd imagine the numbers to be exported will be much less than the contracted numbers. The US started all this situation by having politicians in the Senate, close minded and with lack of perspective, closing the F-22 program. That stunt cost the US 20 years of advancement in 5th gen fighters, while still being number one, they let other countries, some like China, getting closer or closing the gap between their 5th gen programmes. Plus US had to back down on dropping the ARRW hypersonic missile (the latest tested with success, they say, in Guam some weeks or couple of months ago) and scramjet research resurfaced as the US really stated they were lagging on hypersonic missiles (and I'm not talking about the ICBM) more that they wanted to happen in face of their peer foes, Russia and China. So don't be sugarcoating the US weapons industry, as Europeans are not also sugarcoating theirs; But as Mike Johnson stated, ironic statement by the way - but I didn't vote MAGA for sure -, "we have to do the right thing", and the right thing to him (he opened his eyes) is not to give more granted advances to China and Russia (by the way, Russian, which regime I hate, its outproducing in artillery shells alone the US and Western Europe combined 3 fold) and keeping the US as the major world military might, although it is already though to be the world's police when you can't even run your own country for months. Closing, how many times F-35's RAM coating have changed and failed? Now another one is being tested in amber... the F-35 will never be a closed project even after replaced by supposedly the NGAD for USAF mainly and the F/A XX for the Navy.
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 that's because you're biased. Rafale fighters have engaged all around the world, from Africa (multiple countries), Afghanistan, other middle east countries. F-35 also in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Jordan, Gaza, Iraq, Yemen... There are more countries using F-35 than will ever be using SU-35, get real! You just mention the stories you want to know about, not what in fact happens. SU--35 were good in Syria, but with the skies closed on Ukraine and after some shot, Russians decided to take them to the rear and lose "only" su-25, su-34 for Ukrainian Sam missiles; when they don't decide to start to fall by themselves on Russian Territory, dropping by mistake live bombs over Russian civilians. And spare parts for Russian planes... no one wants that crap, nor even their former "islamic" "allies". Read more, tell less fiction, mate.
LOL !! AHAHAHAH !! YOU CAN CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT ASS HOL**& BUT 48 COUNTRIES OUT OF 55 CHOOSES F-35 AS THE BEST SIX GENERATION JET ON EARTH MOST ADVANCE JET EVER BUILT NO ONE AS THE ADVANTAGE IN JET FIGHTER LIKE THE USA/NATO @! NOT CHINA , NOT RUSSIA, NOT IRAN, NOT N/KOREA OR PALESTINE @@ THAT IS THE OTHER REASON THEY DONT SELL THESE JET TO ANY OTHER COUNTRIES EXCEPT NATO @@
@@67claudius Or that these countries favor the American umbrella?... Have you ever thought about it? There are also 6 NATO countries which have the US B51... and they have no other choice "except" to buy the F35.
But it’s not. Russian and Chinese jets are though. F-16 is 104-0 in combat. These were built to dominate those. It’s not The US’s fault no one can build a jet that not 30 years behind
By twisting the arms of European countries, USA has brought the European and British military aircraft on its knees. This results in the death of the BAE-EADS Typhoon, also a very good aircraft for air superiority. But many countries, outside the direct American influence, want a real good airplane and keep their sovereignty over their defence. Hence, this is what is propelling the Dassault Rafale to repeat the economic success of the former Mirage III. Not only can the Rafale offer a reliable proven economic choice with an excellent track record, it is probably the only one that could take down the F22 and F35 in the case of a defense scenario. The final point in its favour is that is the most efficient multi-role fighter.
The production rate of Rafale jets has been, and continues to be ramped-up to meet the growing demand. India is also expected to place a major new order, this time for the carrier-based variant to equip its new aircraft carrier ship. This will be the very first foreign sales of the Rafale’s carrier-based variant.
I don't know what's ministry thinking of but definitely The GoI should ask France for a lineup in India as France alone cannot fullfill all the orders as IAF for sure going for rafale under MRFA competition for atleast 90 jets different from Navy 36 jets
@@Hypersonic-es6vhMaybe France should manufacture some of this in India.....According to my knowledge India might place more Rafale orders for Normal and carrier based variant....
I don't understand why we keep comparing Rafale vs F35, it is the same as comparing a kitchen knife and a swiss army knife. The F35 is a stealth bomber made for deep strikes and it is very good at that, but the US airforce still needs its A10, F18..... The Rafal is a multirole fighter that is good at almost everything but not the best, more suitable for small to medium air forces that can not afford 10 different aircraft types, perfect for countries like, France, Switzerland, Greece, Egypt, Oman etc...
One day us will understand the bad impact their support of israel is creating.people now prefers china over us in middle east.@@IsraelMilitaryChannel
It’s funny because it’s exactly what the US does to almost every country they work with, but when it’s an other country doing it to the US… how is it even possible??? 😮 OMG! Seriously guys, it works like that, have a taste of your own medicine.
@@endi5739 d'assault son surnom de résistant. Emprisonné durant la WW1 à la prison de Montluc à Lyon comme Jean Moulin. Protégé par tous les prisonniers de Montluc et pas que les juifs car déjà reconnu comme un ingénieur hors norme en aviation.
If we, the US wont supply 5th gen., then have the French supply 4.5 gen. fighters. The Rafale is a damn good plane. The more that are produced, prices should go down.
Bon vive la France!!! As a Francophone, I have mixed feelings cause it helps the economy but at the same time it fuels tensions in the world. France will have to pay for the OG this summer. 1940 was a bad year that haunts France to this day but it always showed that it can stand on it's two feet and assist it's allies. Yes this year we are celebrating the freedom of Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam victory over the French but the US did not do better. Communism had nothing to do with it cause oppressed people just fight back ask the Irish.
Mes deux grands pères ont combattu pendant la seconde guerre mondiale. 1940 est l'année ou la France a été trahie par les Etats Unis. Roosevelt a refusé d'intervenir en dépit des engagements pris par le président Wilson. Il faut se rappeler que les Etats-Unis ont refusé de ratifier le traité de Versailles qu'ils avaient pourtant dicté (les dix neuf points). Les conditions de ce traité ont permis la réindustrialisation et la remilitarisation de l'Allemagne essentiellement pour sauver les créances de la City et de Wall Street. La France a du payer le matériel en or cash, les Etats-Unis refusant les prêts. C'est l'Allemagne et l'Italie qui ont déclaré la guerre aux Etats-Unis en décembre 42 et non l'inverse.
Frankly I think those Arab countries might be getting the better deal. The F-35 is kind of a one trick pony. Take away its Stealth capabilities and its rather subpar. The rafale is faster, has a batter climb rate, is more maneuverable, longer range, and carries more missiles. They also have a ECM package that's equivalent to a EA-18 Growler as standard. Finally the new F4 version to which all Rafales are being upgraded to is designed to counter 5th Gen Stealth fighters. The F-35 isnt bad, but its a first strike weapon. Its not designed to go toe-to-toe in a sustained Aerial battle. Thats why the USAF bought the F-15EX. The F-35 is for pinpont attacks like targetting enemy AWACs, refuelers, large bombers, or to launch pinpoint strikes on ground targets. Ultimately they are just 2 different planes with different roles.
I will say this, from strictly financial point of view getting involved in a development of a new or new generation fighter program with the gulf countries behind you would make a lot of sense.
I would say not...they're liable to give F-35 technical details to China or Russia...Arab countries or African countries shouldn't get the technology...I have nothing against Africa but we can't allow them to share American tech with Russia and China..
Rafale is an excellent option especially since it's to be upgraded AT LEAST with a new standard in late 2030 and potentially another one. So for a reasonable price you get an excellent aircraft that will work with UAVs and be maintained for the next 20 years and further that is multirole and also exist in a Marine version. You can hardly beat that offer.
F 35 jet fighter is propagated as the most advanced fighter jet in the world but it's a pity that the wrekage of this fighter can be found under the sea bed of Mediterranean sea,south china sea,pacific ocean ,The sea near japan and in the nothern mountain of south korea and the forest of Texas.This is the fallen fighter jet of the modern time.
Recently the US and her Allies were conducting war games and the French Rafael shot down the F22 twice ,,,The USAF lied and down played the whole incident by saying the Rafael was only able to shoot the F22 down because it was carrying external fuel tanks & it was a very lucky shot until the French Airforce released pictures of the F22 before it was shot with NO external fuel tanks plus they did it twice You give any aircraft enough air time in a real war or even at war games somebody will figured out how to shoot it down stealth or not ….remember the F117 that was shot down during the Kosovo conflict??? Again must be a one of those one in million shots also
Does India even have any jet? Don't even talk about Tejas, the lack of speed and manuverability I've seen, those can be intercepted and destroyed by Shaheed drones.
Its because India 🇮🇳 made the decision to buy the this jet, that other nations are now looking itaf seriously. Otherwise they were blind to this fantastic jet. 5th Gen & Stealth is good , but will never be the mainstay of any country nor US nor Russia or anyone.
India adversary has F-16… and Rafale is ok. The problem for India is China which has been encroaching across the mountains. India needs local air superiority, continuous surveillance from satellites, drones. Ability use armed drones. Remote mining. Artillery, missiles. USA is not selling F-35 to India. Realistically India needs to manufacture own airplanes, jet engines, missiles, etc. First models will suck… but improve. France, USA is too far away for logistics.
@@AjitMD France signed a strategic partnership with India.. and participated in the development of a new aircraft with India with Thales and Safran there.
@@Maddog-xc2zv Still a Democracy and women have same rights to go to school and work as engeneers, not the case in the gulf, democracy makes good engeneers not money, understand now ? Cheers
@@jonathanratel3150 Sure sugarcoat the reality. Plus according to most of your incompetent politicians who know nothing about political science, the US is not a democracy but rather a republic. lol. Most european countries are republics and democracies, those don't mutual exclude themselves. Even parliamentary or constitutional monarchies are seen as democracies, like the UK, Sweden, Denmark, Spain, The Netherlands... You're so closed on your cave you don't even know what you're talking about. Get educated before trying to educate someone with much more education, formal and informal, than yourself. Jeez, entitled MFs....
US is too proud of their F35 and no sales to the Middle East countries. It is perfectly fine, the Middle East can go for other options. And who knows US will never be able to sell their fighter plance in future in Middle East or other parts of the world. There are better choices of aircraft from Russia or China or even Turkey.
Better choices of Aircraft from Russia and China i don’t think so. Regarding Russia Aircraft speaking to India who have serious maintenance issues with their Russian Jets. As for China these have a history of copying Russian Military Aircraft!!
As a indian when came to missiles , no one match russian missile tech, but if u r talking about fighter jet , no one can beat usa, their engines are mire reliable than any country, chinese weapon quality is nit equal to western one.
Makes sense not to sell advanced technology to countries that may someday turn hostile to you or your allies in the region due to cultural/religious reasons. That said, -Rafaels- Rafales (edit) are more than capable jets.
Making mistakes. China will be happy.in order to make little hats happy US is downgrading it's position in middle east. Arab countries already using huawei in large scales. Israel is a liability not an ally for US
let's be clear. If orders come like that (the 100 that Saudi Arabia could buy), economy of scale quick in, the French will order more and Dassault will set up another assembly line... and virtuous circle come in action: with lower prices and better production capabilities, more orders will come. Thing is, for a long time, US diplomacy has been the selling point to counter the sales of non US jets to NATO aligned countries and non aligned countries...(while Russia had a monopoly with Russian aligned countries and a share of non aligned countries). Russians goods are not so good anymore and US politic doesn't have the hegemony factor anymore (they're caught in their conflicting interests). Meanwhile, many non aligned countries that don't want the strings attached plane but still want something to counter not so friendly neighbors, turn to what seem to be the best non F35 choice. Rafale lack ONE thing the F35 has in optimal configuration: its huge passive stealth. And passive stealth is slowly being countered by better radars systems. also, the "low" operating cost of the F35 is only "true" if you consider that most of the training has to be done in simulator, not in flight, thus reducing the cost to maintain the plane after flight... and from what I did read a few times, those simulators are in fact hard to come by...
It hurts to see those Navy F35s fly around with external fuel tank... I mean, why bother with the stealth in the first place if you do that... Stealth is complicated, it's useful in some missions but you don't want to sacrifice too much for it. Plus, it's a very volatile concept because detection improves constantly, too.
@@Desi365 yeah... that's part of why I think the passive stealth craze is over rated... in in perfect configuration does it apply and even then, it limit other capabilities and even then, the passive stealth is non evolving on a plane once build. You can update the radar and jamming and whatever active "stealth" you have, but the "hull" is done once and for all and is the weak link, because detection means evolves... Then French did pass on the max passive stealth spec, but that isn't that much of a concern over time. Instead, they did work on the active stealth spec and SEEM to have reached a good result with the spectra. But, until the latest gen fighter face it other IRL and for a real fight, we wont know how they all compare (including the Russian and Chinese ones), as the latest fighters only faced gen3 or older fighter (the most balanced face to face I can think of in a "recent" history being the Greek Mirage2000 vs Turkish F16, so neither the most modern fighters nor including "exotic" (read non NATO) fighters). So we compare using the official and provided data, but one could provide whatever data they want to look better
@@thedarkside3178No, that's not correct. Israeli fighter jet skip S-300 and S-400 by changing route. At first IDF fighter jet went toward Jordan the turn to syria near Saudi Arabia border which was so far from S-300 and S-400.
Based on what we have seen the Saudis perform in the Yemen war and how Qatar and other gulf states treat sensitive technology, this was the best answer. Good luck with them France. You will truly need it.
Actually few countries in Eu and with Japan they are involving in new projects with new 6 generation planes and they don"t produce to many oldest generation planes.
Just for information in all competitions where the burst was committed to always winning the competition only American interest made it not was chosen for example South Korea and Switzerland etc...
I’m also guessing that Taiwan will eventually purchase Rafael after they retired Mirage-2000 although they have so much complaints about the sale service lol
France will sell a ton of them. SAAB may get some Gripen orders as well. F-35 not for export to these countries. F-35 factory has plenty of business and huge order book. No need to badmouth F-35 here. France offers a great option for countries in a bad neighborhood like Middle East.
Dassault can only make 3 to 4 Rafale fighter jets per month and need an incredible amount of time to adjust manufacturing schedules. That's only about 40 to 45 Rafale per year. Because Dassault factories are only located in France there's not much hope to increase production any time soon. Dassault's only hope is to farm out production of new Rafale orders to India thru the "Make in India" program, or else miss out on $ billions. I can't see any other way out for Dassault.
@JGL841 Why are you talking about Saudia Arabia ? Dassault won't make a production line in India to provide Saudia Arabia order ! It doesn't work that way. Anyway, interest and talks don't equal "orders." We'll see how it unfolds.
@@JoJo-vm8vk The Saudi king said he would buy 100 Rafale jets if the US wouldn't fulfill a request for F-35 stealth jets. Dassault is already backlogged with Rafale orders that will take years to fulfill. India has an assembly plant for Rafale jets and is making some components. French aviation experts have said that Dassault will have a problem filling its current orders, let alone fulfilling new ones. It would take years for Dassault in France to retool its plants and bring on new staff to increase production of the Rafale. They said that India was the only hope for France to meet an obligation for new orders. Building aircraft under license in a foreign country that are exported to another client is nothing new. It's you who doesn't know how things work. Lol!
Middle East Arab countries should start a light aircraft industry. Design small and intermediate planes. Design and build their own engines, avionics. Not just buy foreign stuff.
@@PendKrMustar Arab, Iranian people are smart with engineering and science education. Look their long history of science. I think government policy does not favor development of manufacturing, hi tech, etc. Need state support. Initially it will be difficult.
@@PendKrMustar So sad. A lot of science in Medicine, Navigation, Mathematics came from the Middle East. Europe was w.Middle Ages witchcraft. Iran, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq, etc have been blessed with $Trillions of oil and gas wealth. They have the means to develop an independent prosperous industrial economy with Gold based currency… instead of getting psi with fiat “printed” currencies like USA dollar, Euro, etc. USA dollar lost 98% of its value since 1971. Gold was $35/ounce in 1967. It is now +$2,300+ per ounce. Spending money in wars is another waste, but need military for civil self protection with own armaments, not imported. Best example was Sweden before they joined NATO.
Ahah Us doesn't refuse them at all, there is just too much dependency with Washington, they only work with US satellites for example, they need authorization for everything also.
Alors pourquoi les nations remplacent ou achète le F16 par la rafale.? Le rafale F4 et bientôt f5 sont au même niveau que f 22 avec un bémol en furtivité et Encore. Je n'es pas mis le f 35 c' est une daube monumentale a plusieurs milliards de dollars ou même Washington veux arrêter le financement abyssal de la mise en oeuvre de ce fer a repasser et surtout ne veulent plus l' acheter Donnez le quart du budget du f 35 zux ingénieurs français et il vous feront le faucon Millenium
Its good for gulf countrys to deal with all best low or high advance fighter jets to buy for them to advance it and use it for there safety dear if usa dont give them f35 vertical landing adance jets to buy to fight in bulk with f35 with biggest air forces of gulf middle east africa and asia to finish all advance fighter jets of usa uk israil nato and india insahallah buy join defence blocks of all continents of western world and usa or australia etc blocks dear
@@neurodivtries4101 The famous Mirage fighter jet was designed and invented by Marcel Bloch a Jew, he changed his name to Marcel Dassault. His grandchildren owns the company that created the famous Dassault Rafale.
The USA can’t risk selling those jet to the Middle East countries because of China and they are not as close to the USA in military security like Europe countries wise choice let France or other Europe sell their jet ; China can easily steal the f35 secret from untrustworthy Arab nations; the USA should keep the jet off those nations is the wise choice
The USA can’t risk selling those jet to the Middle East countries because of China and they are not as close to the USA in military security like Europe countries wise choice let France or other Europe sell their jet ; China can easily steal the f35 secret from untrustworthy Arab nations; the USA should keep the jet off those nations is the wise choice fools can’t understand logic behind it ; Arabs countries are not nato or European
No, but does everything the banks and insurance companies and some Military Industry tell them to do, there's where the money is. It just happens a lot of that money is "Jew".
Le prix de la maintenance et le prix de l heure de voloe du f35 est 50 000 € de l heures et le rafale est de 17 000€ de l heures le f35 est trop complexe a entretenir 😊
"Advanced American technology" - such as that which failed to intercept Iranian ballistic missiles fired at the most heavily defended place on Earth, Israel's Nevatim Air Base?
Are you kidding me? I ran humiliated itself. Israel had 99% interception rate. What did Iran's 320 missiles and cruise missiles do? Close to absolutely nothing.
Actually most of iranian balistic couldn"t even reach the Israel border some of them just fall out from sky some shoot down in the others countries allies with US or from US bases.Basically nothing reach the border with Israel.
@@IsraelMilitaryChannel The Israelis / US / UK expended between $2billion and $3billion to shoot down Iranian drones which the Iranians had disclosed the launch time, the flight direction and that they were NOT intended to cause damage or kill anyone. By sacrificing these pawns [which cost a few thousand dollars each] Iran gained comprehensive knowledge of Israeli air defence. The hypersonic missiles got through to their intended targets.
