FRANK ZAPPA - "EXCENTRIFUGAL FORZ/APOSTROPHE" 

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i read he was on tv in the 60's and a stuffy interviewer, trying to get a cheap laugh at Frank's expense said, Frank, you have long hair, are you a woman. Frank immediately replied "you have a wooden leg, are you a table?. So quick, i just love his caustic humour

The teamup of Frank and bassist Jack Bruce was sheer magnificence

Jack Bruce said that working with Frank was one of the greatest times of his life.

Zappa playing the bicycle on the Steve Allen show did it for me !

Jack Bruce’s fuzz bass (yeah, that solo was all bass) just slaps. Bruce is a legend, whether he was playing/singing in Cream, doing solo work, or sitting in with others.

You never knew what he was going to compose. He was a genius.

POUR ON THE ZAPPA LOVE!!!!! It's so nice to hear you both connecting with the music, the man, the intellect. You are completely understanding the perspective of the Zappa freak. Personally, it's been 30+ years of falling in love with this man, and there's always so much more to discover. This isn't a hole you crawl out of easily. Fair warning.

Never forget...The crux of the biscuit, is the apostrophe :D

If you kids really want to go deep with Frank you should do a full album reaction of "We're Only in it For the Money" in one sitting. Wild, insane, confusing, and brilliant album.

You two are amazing. Thank you for remembering and enjoying Frank Zappa. Every album Frank does has a story within the entire album. It makes me smile and I'm so happy that people are finally enjoying the craziness and the amazing musical talent that this man had. I have been a fan since the very first mothers of invention album. I'm a 66 year-old man. Frank Zappa was the greatest and underrated musician ever and our time. Thank you for bringing him back to life.❤

Not that many years before this album Jack Bruce, Eric Clapton, and Ginger Baker used to jam as the band Cream. The song Apostrophe is reminiscent of one of those jams.

New sub.... you both get it... end of story. I think I'm 63, and have been a Zappa fan since I was 15... I saw him twice in 1985, once in San Diego and once in Memphis. The San Diego show I couldn't have been more than 30 feet from Frank and he walked out and immediately started blistering the guitar... I wept, full on cried like a baby. Frank Zappa has always been and always will be one of the most amazing musician, composers that ever existed for me. He is my fav of everything I have heard in my life time. I love the way Sifa is so neutral, it appears when she is reacting, with her Betty Davis Eyes, but she is listening... intently. I love both of your reactions and look forward to more.

Welcome in the FZ rabbit hole, you´ll love it, it´s a way of life!.....for more than 40 years Zappa Lives!

I love seeing you two young people getting off on Zappa... my favorite since around 1970! In Excentrifugal Forz, Korla Plankton is a reference to Korla Pandit who's a pretty interesting cat to look up. Cheers!

One thing you can be sure of, Frank never let wrong notes on studio albums. He always had something in mind and it's the listener that has to catch up to what he just did! ;)

I got to play Apostrophe with Dweezil at a Music Boot Camp he had in Big Indian NY. He called the event Dweezilla and did it 5 times. I was at all 5. At the last one, in 2017, I played a 5-string bass with him on this song with two drummers. It was 8 of the best musical minutes I have ever had!

Love that you guys are going down the Zappa rabbit hole. While I don't agree with him on everything, I also love that you're discovering his intelligence via interviews, which are almost as good as his music, (also check out "The Real Frank Zappa Book"). He was CRAZY scary smart. I think the designation of "genius" is tossed around WAY too much, but Frank definitely was one. Sad to not have him in this world anymore.

Sooooo nice that you go oftenly on Zappa case and I love your analysis...

You just got a new subscriber. At last, reviewers that take Frank seriously. Most people don't get it. They get hung up on "comedy" lyrics and miss the ingenious complexity of the music. I'm almost 70 and a lifelong fan. I lost count of how many times I saw Frank, but if he was within 100 miles, I went. Never missed one. EVERY show was a revolation and all but one was incredible. (The one bad one was because the audience heckled and called him names. He left after 30 minutes.) The first was a 4 hour plus stadium concert with Flo & Eddie. I took a quadriplegic friend (before EDA), got in early and chose a spot 50 feet from center stage. A man parked next to us with a big pipe on a long string and cracked open a pressed kilo of Mexican weed. Pack the bowl, take a hit and pass to the crowd. Pull it back, repack and repeat. Oh, the '70s were someting...

i always think Jack Bruce thought he was playing lead over Frank, lol

What is cool is this. I used to listen to all music on 8 track or cassette or lp.. So yep I'm old. Now me and everyone else gets to hear all music with expensive headphones and the like. Us old folks loved this stuff back in the day but now we and all of you young puppies get to hear and digest all music in a more exact format. Fucking brilliant.

That's why you are the best - because you're so devoted and deep into it and your reactions are so right on. The others just beat the bush missing the crux and swollowing the biscuit with no taste. I's actually expected beacause it's not easy to get Zappa from the very first listening ... but somehow you do seemingly on the basis of your background. And you gave new meaning to my listening to Zappa... it's quite meaningful anyway but now I experience the music in a new way. ... and it's the wormth of seeing somebody likes Zappa and paying attention to the comprehention of this music outside the camera. I really thank you! Someone suggested the We Are Only In It For The Money album and I totally agree - you'll be deligthed :)

I Am The Slime! That's a good one that deals with the whole idea of corruption that comes through your TV set!

Brian May of Queen asked him once: "What if you make a mistake". His answer: What mistake? It's YOUR song!

Great reaction as ever, FZ, it's like a secret club and it's the non members missing out. When my son was young he said "why dyou listen to that pots and pans music?" I think Frank would have appreciated that. Keep well

The drummer on Apostrophe was Jim Gordon. Believed to have composed the piano composition at the end of Layla by Derek and the Dominos. Huge session drummer, before he succumbed to schizophrenia.

The drummer on Apostrophe is the great Jim Gordon, one of the all time session players starting in the mid sixties (did some on Pet Sounds for example) who also was the drummer for Derek and the Dominos, with the later live and studio Traffic albums and with the seminal Delaney and Bonnie. Now you know where to go to listen. Gordon also did a drum masterpiece on Harry Nilsson's Jump Into the Fire (listen to the long version).

"Korla Plankton" - there was a fixture on local LA TV back in the day, name was Korla Pandit, a magical mystery figure with a turban with a jewel, playing organ.

Check the recent documentary titled ZAPPA to explore his life and music. Very deep and comprehensive covering all eras of his life.

Excentrifugal Forz is vaguely about Korla Pandit, a black American musician, composer, pianist, and organist from St. Louis, MO, who created this French-Indian fake persona, born in New Dehli. You should look him up, his biography is interesting. However the song is really just a short sonic preparation for the rock jam that is Apostrophe. The band is Frank Zappa on guitar, Jack Bruce on bass, Jim Gordon on drums and Terry Duran anchoring everyone on rhythm guitar.

Well the man that was talking to the dog looked at the dog and he said sort of staring in disbelief quote you can't say that! You must listen on to stink foot and yellow snow. The whole album is a masterpiece

Michael here, the Dream theater Fan. You guys are starting to get into My top 5 bands of all time. Here's my top 5 list 1. Dream Theater, 2. Kansas, 3. Steely Dan, 4. Frank Zappa, 5. Liquid Tension Experiment, 6. Alan Parsons Project, 7.Uriah Heep, 8. Neal Morse Band. Whoops! I guess I went overboard.

Frank played bass on this track. Been watching awhile can’t wait to you get into zoot allures.

so great to see you guys become fans more and more with each FZ vid you do :)

Just imagine Tina Turner and the Ikettes working for him. Who else? Woah he's the equaliser.

Search on YT for Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention string quartet guitar solo (Newport Jazz Festival - 1969) if you want a sublime little slice of Zappa's tone from that era.

Life is an excentrifugal force...gave me 3 shilds and a godess greenish rossetta as my whife. ..the lucky guy

When I heard Frank passed away... I wept.

Probably the first bass solo I ever paid attention to

Zappa ALWAYS had DOLPHIN's HUMOR!!! (They told me... *brzzzl)

Nice one guys...reminds me of a conversation between Eric Morecombe (late UK comedian) and Andre Previn (renowned composer/conductor)..."You're playing all the wrong notes!" " No, I'm playing all the right notes..just not necessarily in the right order !"....

This cut of Apostrophe was cut from a live take. There's a bootleg that's longer and it is very worth digging up.

One of the guitar sounds you can hear is when he has his wah pedal halfway in a fixed position. Very good to hear that you are also watching the interviews, there are only very few people who are that special that they play in a league of their own FZ is one of them. Another one is Floor Jansen, a Dutch vocalist who is the leadsinger of the Finnish symphonic metalband Nightwish.

At the time I looked a *lot* like Frank and had a similar voice, though a bit deeper and slightly more Midwest. I was constantly mistaken for him -- a thing I considered a great compliment. If only I'd had a mere fraction of his talent...

Glad you enjoyed these two. Thanks for playing them together, they’re digested best that way. Great reaction. Dan , I’m glad you’re enjoying the interviews and other stuff. You really need to check out Baby Snakes the movie. Sofa, Frank was like no one else. We should lobby to have him put on the list as one of the wonders of the world. Some of the other nominations are pretty lame really. Keep enjoying, You’re gonna love the next one.👍 Andrew

Tony Duran on second guitar.

I really like how Frank brings smiles to people's faces. Back in the day most people had a look of " What the he'll was that ". They didn't get it. Many of us did though. That's why we kept listening. Purple Lagoon. DO IT PLEASE!

Great album. Glad you're working through it. Cheers from Tassie. Remember To listen to Peaches en Regalia eventually.

I’ve been a Frank fan since I was a young teen. From NY living in SoCal now. Own every note that he has ever released and was lucky enough to see him live seven times. Mostly the Halloween shows he played in NY every year. I’ve heard the both of you mention that he was becoming a favorite guitarist. In that case you should really check out some of his “Shut Up and Play Your Guitar” collection. True mastery.

The Fuzztone bass was jack Bruce of the Cream manor.

Jack Bruce from the sixties super group Cream plays the bass on "Apostrophe".

FRANK ZAPPA IS THE BEST!!

Funny you mentioned dolphins being smart. Frank had dolphins in the shape of his hair on the album cover for Trance-fusion.

Again.. Frank's production abilities are off the charts. And I love your question about is this the bass or Frank.

Sigo llorando de felicidad oyendo este tema y otros. Sigo llorando de placer desde los setenta. Bruce & Frank. Dios!!! Thanks!!!

Such a great jam. Jack Bruce, Jim Gordon, Frank 😎♥️

I remember Frank saying how the EF track was constructed to show off the surround sound of the original release. Those squirly bits must sound great whizzing around the room, but it's never been released in it's intended surround format, so we'll probably never know.

That was a BASS...The late, great, Jack Bruce was playing that fuzzed-up bass throughout. I'd like to know how Frank gets that "scooped out sound" on his SG. It's so distinctive.

I’d be so interested in your reactions to lumpy gravy

"I love the guitar tones." Yes, and I feel this applies to his wider discography.

Wow what a great melody

you guys rock; not too many tackle the outliers like Zappa and McLaughlin who, while great, never got a lot of airplay in the 70s and 80s................keep it up! (don't forget to do the live mudshark!)

Jack Bruce on fuzz bass, Jim Gordon on drums!

Jack Bruce!!!!!! Yes!!!! incredable Music for just 3 guys!!!!!:)

Back in the 70's, SNL incorporated a list of "people who dolphins are definitely smarter than" in a sketch. I'm a very lazy person, so I'll leave it to you to find the sketch.

A Dolphin amongst a school of fish. Can there be a higher accolade? 😂. With you all the way. Gotta check myself not to start a new religion

Pure Genius!

Sometimes it seems like well organized chaos.

I love these two songs and how they work together. You guys do realize that the first solo is Jack Bruce on fuzz bass right and all that snarling shit too ? Frank's solo is killer as well and as usual had an unusual pedal and settings to make his approach even more unique. When he and Jack solo simultaneously and that outro too it just blows off the roof.

He always took and ALREADY TAKES you/us O U T E R S P A C E !!!

Genius

BRILLIANT ❗😉🎶😉

Korla Plankton was actually this guy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korla_Pandit The picture says it all...

Yeah, that was lead bass by guest Jack Bruce

It's funny that you say the fans consider these tunes inseparable -- they actually almost were in the LP and tape days, I challenge any DJ to take the original record and cue it up for radio to play the second track without the part of the first. Now you can do it with a CD, no problem. They were recorded in entirely different circumstances and edited together, don't know why. Apostrophe (the song) was recorded when Gordon (I think) brought Bruce over to Zappa's place and they all jammed. Zappa later claimed that he didn't like Bruce's style of playing (too busy), but he must have been OK enough with it to make it the title track on his own record. Jim Gordon went crazy after years of drug abuse and beat his mother to death with a hammer. You can sort of hear it in his drums. He died this March in Vacaville, CA prison.

Damn. 10 years later with the band Kyuss, Josh homme, queens of the stone age, sounded just like this but not as complicated.

The bass was the late great Jack Bruce, some inspired bass improv played like a lead guitar.

There was never a wrong note

Far out and Solid, well I suppose I will have to seriously consider becoming a Patreon, Hmm! lot´s of Franks Goodies waiting to be consumed.

Great song, my band in the 80s would jam this tune. Yes Frank sometimes plays, not wrong notes, but out of key. I was taught in my college jazz class that sometimes you want to play out of key briefly to add tension. Frank usually knew what he was doing, but admits to some errors.

one-celled Hammond organ-ism!

It’s a bass. It’s Jack Bruce from Cream.

Cool!

Think this was recorded at Electric Ladyland studios, made famous by Jimi Hendrix

Brilliant luv this Al _ bum 😂

You are lovely people.

Uncle Remus next ... one of my favourites 🙂

Then I'll call up Pup Tentacle and ask him about his chin, and how things are from the future cause that's where been. The Johnson and Toffee show in the 80s-90s used to use Apostrophe as their morning opening track yet not many realize that they were listening to Zappa.

Apostrophe had to be more normal, since it was a jam with ex-Cream bassist Jack Bruce. They asked Frank what it was like playing with Bruce, and he said he didn't like lead bass players. Watch Zappa's testimony in congress concerning censorship in music, and then listen to his song "Porn Wars" from his album Frank Zappa Meets The Mothers Of Prevention, where he manipulates samples from the hearing. "What's New In Baltimore" is another good one on that album. This was from the period when he was starting to use a Synclavier in the band, while still playing the guitar.

Interesting, but obscure cultural reference in there: "There's always Korla Plankton Him 'n me can play the blues An' then I'll watch him buff that Tiny ruby that he use He'll straighten up his turban An' eject a little ooze Along a one-celled Hammond Organism" Korla Pandit was a really interesting character/organist: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korla_Pandit

I think 50/50 is going to blow you away.

You might want to check out Zappateers.com... It is a community website that is a repository of every bootleg Zappa concert recording ever done, all digitially spiffed up. You can download any show in his catalog (not every show is in the database but damn near close) and hear some classic performances throughout 25 years... If you listen to any Zappa guitar solo thorughout his career , you will never hear it again as he NEVER played the same thing...

FZ, Jack Bruce, and Ginger Baker

It just so happens that Frank has an album made from Dolphins Shaped in his famous mustache goatee motif look it up😀

Have you noted the "conceptual continuity" yet...?

What Happened To Ricky Lancelotti?

It's funny, but "Apostrophe" was very new when I first got into Zappa. He was required listening as a prog rock guy that started on that path because of "Tarkus" by ELP barely before this album's release. "Yellow Snow" actually got radio play back then. But...not much else. This was his first "pop" success as a rock musician. And I actually rate this album very good, but even then I considered it NOT as good as "Overnight Sensation", where he took things further, or "One Size Fits All" which is simply a sublime album. While this album does not make my top 20% of Zappa material, at the same time it is such a phenomenal collection of works! That's how deep Zappa is. Impossible to put all his works in a rating system. His life is laid out to us in albums spanning decades and dozens upon dozens of different musicians. So, listening to this again and watchin' y'all bop I marvel that I don't actually consider this top tier, and yet it blows so much else away! But...kinda nice hearing "Apostrophe" again anew from those who haven't heard it. "Black Napkins" from "Zoot Allures". All Frank with the band just keepin' a beat and sweet vocals, but not lyrics.

If you put the tone of the bass solo aside and look at the mechanics of the playing its very obviously a bass guitar…a very well put together piece ….

Frank raps