FRANK ZAPPA - "INCA ROADS" (reaction) 

Thanks for the info...Booger bear was the Zappa's band term for a persistent groupie

@@bobcorbin3294 Smell my beard. 😉

This is new info for me and now that whole damn verse makes more sense...Frank...lol... that motherfucker always put jokes in his songs that like 5 people are gonna get. What a lunatic.

Woah, guacamole? Interesting ☺️. Thanks for the info!

@@SightAfterDark I don't know. Apparently they were a big hit at The Armadillo. Enough so Frank sang about the woman who made them. I guess it's just a case of don't knock 'em until you try 'em. 😄

Hello fellow gentleman with amazing musical taste. :D Love the avatar.

@@Mr.Batsu12 thank you sir 👍 always nice to hear from a fan of mr Zappa ❤️❤️

Bozzio wishes he was Chester Thompson.

@@machinebeard1639 he definitely doesn’t. I beg to differ captain

@@cliffspencer9989 One time Zappa said, "Bozzio ew, Thompson yeah." So there.

yes... BUT... Zappa was also contradictory... he did it all the time... makes fun of the Stones... but actually LIKED the Stones... makes fun of 50's music... but LOVES 50's music... calls drum machines freeze dried drums and then starts exclusively making music on a Snyclavier... Zappa was FULL of paradoxes... so don't be so sure he actually disbelived... or disavowed the theories put forward in that book... I've looked all over for Frank talking about it and he never really says it's wrong or stupid... he just questions it.

Frank's very words on the subject can be found elsewhere in this feed if you scroll down a few posts.

Good one!

Thanks Chazblitz!

Glad you enjoyed Akahina!

Thanks so much Dean ❤️!

Thanks so much Mark!

except for calling that "not too complex" 🤣

Yeah, we totally forgot to mention the claymation. We remembered as soon as we finished recording. The animation part was really great and reminded us of a band named Tool’s videos. Thanks for mentioning Thomas!

Well same with me, i would prefer to see the band the whole time, even with deepest respect for Bickfords masterpiece.

@@SightAfterDark Tool got me pretty hooked early on. Great talent there.

yes ... BUT... some guy just did a reaction video with his wife of this song... and she showed visible signs of discomfort... VERY BIG LOL... some people's ears just can't deal with this shit.

I’ll give that a look mr batsu. 👍

Thanks Mr_Batsu!

yes, i love that part, it's fabulous

Nice!

Thanks David!

@John Bidochka - Since Inca Roads on OSFA uses the guitar solo from the same song from Helsinki in place of the KCET performance, it isn't Xenochrony. Frank explains Xenochrony: Friendly Little Finger - recorded in a dressing room at Hofstra University and over-dubbed at the Record Plant, Los Angeles and originally released on the album Zoot Allures. This is one of the earliest examples of a technique I developed called Xenochrony (strange synchronizations). Other examples include "Rubber Shirt" on Sheik Yerbouti and every guitar solo on Joe's Garage except "Watermelon In Easter Hay". In this technique various tracks from unrelated sources are randomly synchronized with each other to make a final composition with rhythmic relationships unachievable by other means. In ordinary polyrhythmic terms we speak of 5 in the space of 4, or 7 in the space of 6. In Xenochrony we deal with larger units of time; a complete solo at one metronomic rate in the space of a track at another ... sort of like Monday and Tuesday crammed into the space of Wednesday. The solo and drone bass was recorded on a 2-track Nagra, 15 ips, with a pair of Neumann U-87 microphones in a rather wet-sounding dressing room, warming up before a concert at Hofstra University on Long Island. This pair of tracks was later Xenochronized to a drum track out-take from "The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution". The introductory orchestration was added next, and then the Hofner bass (recorded at half-speed), rhythmically splitting the difference between the two different track tempos. Zappa dubbed the technique "xenochrony," from the Greek words xeno (strange or alien) and chrono (time). As he explained, "In this technique, various tracks from unrelated sources are randomly synchronized with each other to make a final composition with rhythmic relationships unachievable by other means." For example, in the case of the Zoot Allures track "Friendly Little Finger," the solo guitar and bass were recorded in a dressing room on a 2-track Nagra and then later combined with an unrelated drum track for a piece called "The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution," with additional instrumentation scored to complement the newly produced time signatures. Xenochrony proved to be a powerful new compositional tool for Zappa, and he returned to it many times over later albums. Well, a classic "xenochrony" piece would be "Rubber Shirt", which is a song on the Sheik Yerbouti album. It takes a drum set part that was added to a song at one tempo. The drummer was instructed to play along with this one particular thing in a certain time signature, eleven-four, and that drum set part was extracted like a little piece of DNA from that master tape and put over here into this little cubicle. And then the bass part, which was designed to play along with another song at another speed, another rate in another time signature, four-four, that was removed from that master tape and put over here, and then the two were sandwiched together. And so the musical result is the result of two musicians, who were never in the same room at the same time, playing at two different rates in two different moods for two different purposes, when blended together, yielding a third result which is musical and synchronizes in a strange way. That's xenochrony. And I've done that on a number of tracks.

@@Frunobulax74 Thank you for that info, that's fascinating

Thanks Mark, that’s so cool!

i think there's a version somewhere without the claymation. I can be wrong

Not to mention their stone building technique! Unparalleled!

Thanks for sharing R. Gray!

in the last years of touring the set list was a choice of 100 "songs" everyone knew by heart, ready for any change anyday.

Hilarious

Glad you enjoyed Garlooroztox!

Thanks!

Thanks Erol!

Thanks so much Ex Urban!

Thanks Jim, we appreciate you!

Glad you enjoyed William, thanks!

Glad you enjoyed William, thanks!

Please, let's give Bruce Bickford some credit for the animation. After all, he did it all by himself. :)

@@TommiBrem agree, was very creative for the time.

@@paulfenwick8767 A humble pioneer he was. Had the pleasure of visiting him at home and curating a large-ish retrospective exhibition... the sweetest man, really.

@@TommiBrem that's tremendous. Was he "out there" as i have been led to believe. Mental health issues?

@@paulfenwick8767 He was definitely special, let's put it that way. But not in a disturbing way. The man I met was humble, alert, interested, funny, always creating stuff, full of plans, full of stories ... and maybe a trifle paranoid. He loved the organic food here in Germany and took a liking to our home-made broth. His home was filled with art from basement to ceiling, it was overwhelming. Art was such a big part of his life, maybe a little too big at times to be healthy. He was working on stuff until he died, not too long ago. Last I heard was that a comic-book deal was being discussed with a publisher...

Bongo Fury was the album that introduced Steve Vai to Zappa's music. Muffin man in particular. I think he transcribed the entire album to showcase his skill for Frank, so he invited him to audition.

Chester is awesome!

lol

So hilarious, thanks Gabe!

Wow, thanks Andreas!

Thanks Scott!

Thanks Scott!

Yep, best version.

I couldn't disagree more. I hate that the only good live version of this has this dumb, irrelevant claymation covering it up.

@@nazfrde Well, someone enjoy creativity...

@@sveinunglidsheim5828 I do, it's just not to my taste.

Oh wow, we’ve definitely read one of the professor’s books way back; how cool, thanks Steve!

totally agree

What an interesting story Chris. And a lovely insight into franks life. Thank you for sharing that with all of us sir 🙏👍

I second Cliff! I’m almost sure George’s singing on OSFA is not this; there are some flaws here pitch wise (notably the line “…thing to laaand”) that are corrected on the album, probably one of the studio additions…?

@Zolar Czakl You mean autotune before autotune?;) I honestly don’t hear it, I hear differences in the phrasing also, but I’ll take your word for it if you’re positive; I suppose overdubbing and/or other techniques might have done the trick.

@Zolar Czakl I know though that most of it besides the vocal line is the same as in the album, if that is what you meant.

@Zolar Czakl That’s always been my impression as far as what I can discern by ear, that the track is basically the KCTV and Helsinki versions fused, with some exceptions like George’s vocals redone in the studio.

So awesome, thanks Billy!

We totally missed the connection☺️

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Loved what Hendrix did, but for me, there is very little to compare, it´s only a personal view, but Frank just took the whole world of Guitar playing to another level, I never sit down for a couple of hours to listen to Hendrix, Frank on the other hand!

@@davehagi9883 well said.

@@davehagi9883 Jimi did things with the blues scale that are unparalleled. Frank broke out of the blues box and had very unique phrasing. I think that if Jimi had lived and gotten clean, we would have seen even greater things from him.

@@justaguy2365 I don´t doubt for one minute you are correct, unfortunately and sadly we will never know.

Definitely top tier, thanks Joey!

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Thanks Nicholas!

Thanks Frank!

I look at it like they each had their own 'style' and Frank brought out the best in them. I heard Chester say that when he went to play for Genesis, the first thing Phil Collins asked him was how he played the drum roll from More Trouble Every Day. I found that very amusing ;-)

We respect your opinion ♥️!

me too, especially hate the drumset Terry plays nowadays, it's lost all dynamics. It looks like a field of mushrooms. - Compare Bozzio's Black Page then, and more recent with Dweezil, and you know what I mean.

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Cool!

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☺️we forgot to mention it, lol, we actually thought it was cool and respect your opinion! Thanks Thomas!

Yes she is.

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