Tried and tested formulaic leftwing comic . oooh its ok to be racist Frankie as long as its against the English. Hypocrite. Soon Frankie and his other commie chums at the beeb will be tightening their belts when their EU funded gravy train stops...😅
Soon as I saw Benjamin Zephaniah I knew this was going to be good, he's such an amazing wordsmith, and a brilliant social commentator. If there's anyone who hasn't read his poetry, I'd recommend it, as well as his books.
Man who describes himself as more left wing than Noam Chomsky does a show and people are pissed that it's biased in favour of the left wing....I mean really?
"the left chose him" What do you mean? "His humour will go down well with the rape gangs" What on Earth are getting at? Can you expand on what type of shite point you're trying to make? What racism?
Jake Green dude, he’s ALWAYS had these views. You made the mistake of assuming that just because he’s “not PC” he’s on your side of the political divide. It’s actually just a perfect showing of the bullshit of the right, that you claim your problem with the left is that they’re snowflakes and too soft, but when someone on the left has the same anti-PC stance, you get all precious. Edgy is apparently only interesting to the right when it’s racist or sexist, with incredible consistency.
@@ReegusReever don't feed the troll. It only encourages them. They're literally doing it to frustrate you. See the troll, recognise the troll, make monkey noises at them. Make dolphin noises at them if you can. They're not making statements they believe in, so why should you? Save yourself the blood pressure
(Texan here) This is the first I'd heard of the Grenfell Tower fire, and I'm not sure I've teared up reading a wikipedia article before; you have my heart, UK friends..
Aye it was quite shocking. I live in a tower block in Scotland, my neighbor has had three fires, I've helped him out of two, Ive been out going up and down the tower one other time because I heard what sounded like a fire alarm, checked four floors up and down before I realized it was a tree branch cutter outside that was rapidly beeping like a fire alarm (stupid designe idea), I don't fuck about after Grenfell. You aren't allowed anything on landings anymore, not even a door mat, fire safety.
My father had many friends from Grapevine Texas lovely people :) its madness that the cladding was put on because the rich folk didnt like looking at the towers
@@jakk1hundo553 MisoPHONIA. It's when a person finds certain sounds very distasteful or upsetting; sounds that wouldn't usually be considered objectionable. A common one is the sound of people chewing or the sound of people breathing but it can be anything. It's similar to how some people really don't like the sound of certain words and can have a negative physical reaction when they hear them.
The government didn't let people die. The government housed many of these people in the first place and provide the public services that saved many of them. Big picture here. It is true to say that people's lives were lost from poor decisions but you need to look at how the fire started in the first place.
alright mate let's talk big picture then. The reason these people were poor and needed government funded housing in the first place is because the capitalist system feeds off of them. The upper class's greed is the reason they needed to be saved or whatever in the first place and greed is the reason the council didn't spend the extra couple pounds on better materials. So yes, you're right about the big picture.The big picture is how capitalism has fucked them over again and again. It was a poor decision but it was a conscious one.
It's extremely funny that Frankie's jokes have become less offensive, but he's triggering more people (yes, I'm talking about you, right-wing snowflakes).
I am so loving this program. It is wonderful to see Frankie getting to write on topics more in line with what he's said he would like to (in interviews). There's less cartoonish horror (like there was in Michael Jackson's Childrens' Hospital) but I think what his writing loses in shock value, it gains in sincerity, which is nice. I am crossing my fingers that we get another series.
Michael Farrell . When the local council used £9million out of their £250million budget surplus to clad the tower to improve the skyline for rich residents, but chose to save £200k by using cheaper flammable cladding and not installing sprinklers or fire alarms... That's not austerity! That's corporate manslaughter!
Frankie Boyle is the fucking man. I would say that this is the best stuff he's ever done but he has always been shit-hot- the guy is a comedy machine- he is an intelligent man who knows his shit aswell. Nice one Frankie and the rest of them on the show. Awesome stuff, every episode of this has been great.
I love this show! Honest, real political commentary by well-informed people. Isn't it funny how the court jesters (comedians and poets) are the ones who speak truth. Bravo, Frankie. Bravo.
GorillaGuerilla amen to that!! Fuck the Murdoch Media Sky News and Daily Fail , the Sun, the Express all worthless rags, the Grandad and the Independent are no better in all honesty often just as blatant in their bias. If you believe everything you read or hear from any single source without independently verifying the claims, then you are a fool! Newspapers are forced to legally print corrections everyday for good reasons to cover up yesterday's lies with small print. Honestly the newspapers are no better than toilet paper these days.
I've heard them, read them Stuart! The sweeping statements, anecdotal evidence and "speaking from the heart" is consistent in being devoid of any real substance. Sorry!
Frankie Boyle's endless jokes about the DUP really offends loads of ppl both here in Scotland & in the North of Ireland ..... I fuckin love it!!! Hahahahailhail keep it up Frankie Bhoy....
Lovely episode Frankie, very interesting-guests included. Such an intelligent man, aswell as being funny. I think maybe the critics hear the first hard-hitting offensive joke and immediately are put off; but when else has a comedian used the position to speak out for a good cause?????? Very proud day indeed. Well done Frankie. Hilarious and important.
"If this had happened in a developing country..." Northern Ireland is a developing country. I'm from there, I should know. You don't get mainstream political parties like the DUP without also getting the tag 'developing country'. Or 'developing morality', whichever works. I just hope everyone out there doesn't judge us based on these fundamentalist pricks.
Stephen Gilmore The DUP is basically the same as mainstream evangelical American Protestantism. You have my sympathies. Way back when the Brits sent all the humorless religious nutters to America where I live and all the criminals to Australia. Wish it had been the other away around...
The DUP should have been banned in the 70's for inciting racial and sectarian hatred against catholic and travellers but it was ignored because of there "pro union" agenda just like the today with there deal with the tories.
I'm from Northern Ireland too, the only reason people vote DUP is to stop Sinn Fein from getting a majority and rejoining with Ireland. With this mindset nothing gets done 🙁
let's not pretend that Sinn Fein are all perfect though. I'm from Glasgow so I can't stand the Orange eejits more than anyone and the DUP and orange guys are undeniably worse but we can't pretend Sinn Fein never did terrorism either. Back in the 80s they were both bad, but I can't disagree that now the Orange guys are the only ones I see doing anything bad these days
i'm so used to frankie joking about everything and being offensive to every group of people that it's so weird to see frankie being serious.... in a good way (i think!)
Sorry, but anarchists don't believe anyone can buy land, they believe nobody can. The enclosure movement of the 18th century was a key attack on anarchist sentiment, and freedom.
wow, Frankie has mellowed, I was actually waiting for a grenfall tower joke/punchline.He seems to have learned where the line in the sand is. Great show, thanks for the upload
Keep in mind this was aired on the BBC, who always heavily stifled him even during his stint on shows like Mock the Week. Plus, this is Frankie actually being given a platform to be serious and engage in discussion. He's not going to jump up and suddenly make jokes about a tragedy that at this point was incredibly fresh in people's minds.
kinda disappointing. everyone was just agreeing with each other. what Frankie's good at is proving people wrong in a brutal way. pity the BBC can't have at least one guest with different opinions on anything.
Yes because critical thinking free from selective media bias of this programme, which might feasibly involve listening to the arguments of the majority of the electorate in two national votes is certainly not worth the time discussing.
+The Blorg did this! you remind me of the idiots at work who I had to endure during breaks who used to criticise females celebrities like they would even remotely come in contact with the losers
+paul mendham if you mean praying at work I will have to disappoint you. You could do it in your lunch break should you wish. And stop reading the Sun/ Mail
Yes revolution, Benjamin I've been saying that too - we people need to get organised asap. it's already happening slowly though. clichéd as it may sound, it also still sounds right: power to the people!
Shame that he is almost defending halal, Gervais may not be quite as funny, but he cares about animals. You can hate both the Tories and Islam, in fact if you hate conservatism, I've got news for you. Out of the two, Tories are nearly ultra liberals in comparison.
Frankie Boyle is a lot more comfortable having a real conversation with people. He spoke about it live onstage in Edinburgh a long time ago (the interview is still on RU-vid) rather than shockingly cruel jokes ( he built Jimmy Carr's career by writing jokes for that idiot) and he got very angry when a producer of MTW said we cant have women, nobody likes unfunny c*nt's. It's a hard business. It's so refreshing when 4 people can discuss something disgusting that happened while retaining their manners and not screaming and shouting at each other, unlike GMB.
Home crowd? Funny how he gets the same great response regardless of where he gives speeches, almost like his home crowd is the entire UK. And newsflash: he's saying what we want to hear because he's got views and convictions that we want in politicians. Criticising him for saying what he actually stands for is weak, even for a fascist.
This show is pretty damn good as compared to the usual fare, the only thing a bit weird about it is how Frankie rarely replies to the guests' points, instead usually going on to say his own thing. Maybe that's just the editing, but it destroys the continuity a bit.
Frankie's dropped the anti-establishment side of his act completely compared to a few years ago. This is the guy who talked at length about the BBC's institutional bias, who said about the BBC "you've got to recognise the role it plays in Britain in propaganda." You have to admit that that aspect has disappeared completely now, this is in tune with BBC's core values and message, without deviation.
Jake Green He's a comedian Jake. You're really taking this too seriously. The Kalergi plan? That's really a conspiracy theory put about by Golden Dawn. I did a bit of research during the referendum , when it was all the rage with ukip supporters.
Jake ..bless yà. You misunderstood my last reply. I read the history of Kalergi. You're the one who believed the conspiracy theory of the far right Golden Dawn. I'm pretty sure you must have heard of them.
25:01 - They're not interested in dialogue, creating understanding, this was an excellent example of that. This show is merely interested in dividing people and labelling them. Left wing, right wing, I think there are hypocrites and corrupter's on both sides, evil isn't subjective, everyone is welcome to be evil, it's not racist like that, everyone can join the club! Instead of 'right' and 'left', what about just being 'correct'? I like to be correct-wing, not left, not right, just correct. Sick of tired of all this bs. "We need to shut our borders to the EU as well, to stop people coming over here that are not actually contributing to the country." Alright bit silly, not everyone who comes here is a scammer and leeches, but who would disagree to reject applicants who won't contribute? You did say you didn't know about statistics, well there's quite a few Brits abroad so...but hey he's speaking sincerely he admitted he doesn't know everything. Can't disagree with rejecting people who don't contribute. (But don't worry, the later clip will cement the idea he thinks all immigrants are scammers). "...that the people here, they didn't come in because of the EU" - Interviewer (cut a bit out) Alright luv, he's just saying he doesn't want people who don't contribute coming to the UK. Which is fair enough, we already have our fair share of bloody criminals here! (and they come in all shapes and sizes) "Not saying they have, you've got facts I haven't, you've got all these statistics I don't, I'm not particularly minded as you are, alright, this is coming from the heart, I feel like a stranger in my own country." (Notice how they cut this clip) "...this use to be a really good white area here." Job done guys, we've discredited him. He's a racist, we don't have to listen to his genuine grievances any more. I felt bad for the guy, he's at a loss to explain what is happening. He's being sincere, give him a chance. Fair enough he doesn't understand, so let's explain it to him. Watching the clip, can you blame him? No wonder he feels like a stranger, most the people in the video are foreign. This is the fault of the government mismanaging immigration. They know immigration is cheap labour, they don't mind fucking over their own citizens, look at our long illustrious history of it. Now I do find 'this use to be a really good white area' distasteful, but I noticed the clip was cut, we didn't get to here the before and after, it's almost as if they are trying to portray a certain picture... But of course, this issue is so complicated marred by a myriad of issues that takes more than a few nice catchy 'sound bites' and sarky comments to understand. It's much easier just to label people rather than understand them. He has genuine grievances, and they should be listened to. Perhaps then, we could tackle those problems and we wouldn't get comments like that. However that's boring, as Pascoe said, 'articulate man makes a great point' doesn't get many views, nor would 'confused man speaks from the heart' as opposed to 'racist says this use to be a really good white area' get as many views. Anyhow I find it funny, comedians are a pressure valve to release tension, I remember a story about when Stalin visited some Eastern European country with some government person, they saw a comedy sketch and the comedian was chastising the government, Stalin asked why on Earth they would allow such a thing?! The man said, comedians release tension, they laugh, they go home, they do nothing, and if they are planning, we know where to find them. I do like to rant.
I don't think it's fair to say that ALL Tories are as shit as May is. I'm as leftist as it comes, and sadly the left never wins in my area, but credit where it's due, my MP is a Tory, and she's a really decent person. I quite like her. I would never vote for her, but I'm never really truly sad when she wins, because she does a good job. I disagree with her completely politically, but she does her job competently and is a likeable person. I prefer the recurring Labour candidate we have here, but I don't think it's fair to say the Tory MP sucks. She doesn't, I just prefer someone else.
Yella Dart Ya sure and some Nazis were decent guys and gals as well. But in the end they all pledge allegiance to a ridiculous ideology which supersedes their individual personalities..
+Wyatt Barone That is a slippery slope, Nazis are definitely bad, but remember, that in Germany before and during WW2, EVERYONE was technically a nazi, do be careful with the accusations.
Any of the critics ever consider that Frankie hasn't "changed", the world has changed, this is just his opinion. And if he has, by the way, he's allowed to change. I am sure he's just saying what he wants as usual. For a political show where the panel consists of comedians, people are taking it real fucking hard.
Ive been following Frankie Boyle's New World Order episodes from the first. Sitting down with a chinese excited to watch episode 4, and now they say to me channel 4 has blocked episode 4 for my country (rep. of Ireland)
Can we have someone with contrasting opinions, this is literally just a left wing circle jerk. It would be nice if they respected and at least have a platform to people with different opinions, so there could be an actual debate.
If you haven't noticed, it's the right that are in power, and an extreme right that we haven't seen the likes of in decades, Brixit was possibly the biggest political/democratic/economic mistake since Neville Chamberlain took Hitlers word for it that he wouldn't march past Poland. this ISSSSS the contrasting opinion!!!!
The jokes rely on heavily slanted half-truths and quite often outright lies. As a centrist, and not a partisan supporter of either the conservatives or labour, and who was open to Brexit but never voted, I hate being propagandised, even if it's veiled behind comedy. I'm all for comedy, but please try to keep it fair. I saw Eddie Izzard live recently in Tokyo and the weakest parts of his show were the political parts. The rest was great, but I felt alienated as someone who tries to keep an objective/non-partisan and true news perspective. Just my thoughts anyway.
Tokyo Arrow enforcing that a show can't express any particular preference either is still pushing an agenda; a centrist agenda. Everyone has an opinion, it's impossible to make it not in way of one opinion or another. This show just happens to be leftist, if you don't like it, watch a centrist show.
"Homophobic" The DUP have a belief which I do not agree with. But they have a belief based on religious beliefs, I trust you will mock muslims as homophobic also? Thought not.
Why would he randomly cut to talking about homophobic muslims? It had nothing to do with the topic at hand. IDK about you, but I haven't seen Jeremy Corbyn make a coalition with the anti religion communist party or the homophobic Muslim party, in large part, because they don't exist.
TheAmericanOrange my point is the "left" can mock the DUP for religious beliefs, yet if you mock muslims for the same religious beliefs, you are right wing and in-sighting hatred. 😊
Tom Ridding How is calling out homophobia right-wing? I'm someone society would call "left-wing" and I'm pro-LGBTQ. It's time to be open about it not being acceptable to treat someone as inferior because of something as stupid as the gender they're attracted to. Believe whatever derivative, mistranslated, biased bullshit you want. Don't go hurting others by voicing that though.
I'm actually really surprised that Frankie would do a show called litterally 'New World Order' and be of the nature that it is. How the mighty have fallen. I always knew Frankie liked to push peoples buttons but I didnt think he would willingly be a "mainstream left" propaganda pusher. Its not even nearly as funny as I remember him being in other shows in the past.
how far have you fallen frankie , ranting in your echo chamber, 5th form politics, endless virtual signalling, any hint of humour preceeded by "LIKE" then the contrived comparison, time to move on frankie, it all feels so old.
The echo chamber? You can't mean the one on RU-vid that means whenever a leftist tries to put up any coherent viewpoint, you'll get hundreds of illiterate commenters attempting to shout them down, whilst meanwhile some angry try hard right-wing wanker shouting about 'facts and logic' into a camera for hours on end from the bedroom in their mums basement is immediately lauded?
the poet should have been booed for saying that the uk is racist, some of the biggest racists are blavk or asianandarrogant who are very eager to play the racist card to thieradvantage
