Fred Hoiberg: ISAIAH THOMAS Travels Every Time 

This type of hesitation has been a staple of the leagues best ball handlers since Allen Iverson. It IS a part of the game and is nothing new. Most of the "carries"in the video with maybe 1 exception are all unidentifiable in real time. If a referee can't identify it then you can't really call them and that is why these hesitations and change of pace moves have come to dominate the game. It's not a bad thing as these are not "undefendable" moves. It is a new fundamental in defense to not bite on fakes such as these and to learn the various fakes that offensive players use including pump fakes, in and outs, change of pace hesitations and head fakes to name a few @bballbreakdown

BBALLBREAKDOWN its palming the ball. everyone does it. no one really calls it.

BBALLBREAKDOWN can you breakdown the whole three step/ gather step bullshit? I don't get how the refs never call Lebrons travels cause some of them are ridiculous along with a lot of the league.

TheKillaMethod but nba rules and refs are trash

Where I'm from we call that a carry

Hopefully refs will try to catch everyone then

BSOLZ who else

jic333 almost every athletic guard in the lead

he does this more than others.

Biased opinion 🙄

yeah, even my man kemba dd this a lot of time. hes just to quick that the refs cant notice

kawhi is super guilty, and I'm POSITIVE he knows how many extra steps he takes

You are missing the point here, its true that everybody in the League do that and If the refs call it everytime the game would be boring and slow, but the frequency that Isaiah does that makes him impossible to be guard so when this infraction is obvious the refs should call it

that's the point. it's all a scam

leon scott also check out carries done in the 2000’s and compare.

sneijder023 Fuk that shit bluh!

Two wrongs don’t make a right

Euro step is still 2 steps after you pick up your dribble. Did you not watch the video? It has nothing to do with feet. The argument is the ball stagnating in mid-air while dribbling. To be discontinued ...

lmaoooo

European continent? Europe is a continent bruh

Arman Raider yeah he is pretty shameless when it comes to the ads

Arman Raider Everybody gotta eat.

Arman Raider These comments confuse me, I have RU-vid red smh I miss the fun.

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Arman Raider lmao at least he's the only advertiser I can't get annoyed at.

Alex Chase I see what u did there 😂

Jelani Ochoa wtf did he do?😂

Jelani Ochoa: Answer: Forgot to put "say" in that sentence between "could" and "Isaiah"

Alex Chase not really Bradley just got the most points last game so you can't say that he is the only one that can score on the team

Alex Chase big time

@Tommy Bain I have to unfortunately disagree with you, I’ve played against some decent to good level ballers at the ymca,sunrise tournaments, or even regular park ball around my way and we’ve had sideline commentators even expose carries like this or similar ALL THE TIME!! It didn’t start or it won’t finish with I.Thomas.

It’s legal the ball is still spinning in his hand go check the rules

@@emetechad4621 lol, no it's not! Spinning doesn't matter.

Jim Marble 😂

Jim Marble I don’t know if your being a comedian or it’s pure ignorance that controls your thoughts. It’s in the rule book the fact that you didn’t even look it up screams joker. Watch the reply again the ball defiantly doesn’t rest.(stop spinning)

Everyone does it even Durant

Don’t make it right fool lol

its impossible to police, too nuanced.

Muse Russell2

Suxiao Li yes?

strikedizzle are you guys fucking serious?!?!?!?!? Fred Hoirberg and coach nick are fucking reaching on this one, Hoiberg shouldn't say a damn thing when he coaches Dwade who is infamous for carrying the ball when he is splitting the double team! Believe me! Isiah Thomas is not the only player that plays like this so y'all need to stop with this bullshit, y'all totally nitpicking on one player in this league, if your gonna say he is BLATANTLY carrying then point out other examples of other players that proceed to carry the ball as well but Hoiberg is salty and coach nick is inconsistent in his opinions!

Why wasnt Fred Hoiberg complaining during the first 2 games...Only complaining now because they lost.

ChuckieSawyers because he is salty and he is pointing something out that every player that can dribble a basketball does!

well said. Thats why his hesitation m0ve is so effective. IT is a great player though.

Let's not forget coach nick praises curry

tuntuu Baby steps or not, it's illegal.

tuntuu yeah if anything James Hardens "step back" is travel

Lmao

👶👶👶👶🏀👣...lol

Killuminati AllThruYaBody get it he’s short like a baby

Terrall Doll Especially Lebron

Terrall Doll it's not carrying to move with the ball with your hands behind it... no matter how many steps you manage to take.

not in europe. only in nba.

drzitbag06 the game was made in America not in Europe.. moving as much as possible with your hand behind the ball even if it suspends your dribble is not a carry.

drzitbag06 if your hand is behind the ball but slight under the ball at the same time that is Called cheating.... cheating is when you get away with it. A lot of guys cheat. But if your hand is directly behind the ball you are fine.

MeesterSun James does that fucking arm hook to draw fouls. Look at how the spurs defend him. They need to change some rules this offseason to stop this shit. It's basically turning into some and1 rec league shit.

James harden is the worst

Griffin always uses his off hand to push people when going up for a dunk or layup and Jamaal Crawford will shoot the 3 then sit down and slide back and flop it drives me nuts.

Melancholy how can you change it without taking fouls out of the game? Every player in the game draws fouls.

MeesterSun james harden stepback isnt a travel

You're funny

Actually nba rules says the ball can be on the side of your hand as long as it still spins and doesn’t rest

@@emetechad4621 ye

that's why the NBA is a joke lol

@@kasyoi1545 NBA not a joke, however, fact is today's players have never played by the same rules that players played by in the 70's. Starting w/ Magic Johnson type players, the refs were afraid to call him for traveling/palming and soon every player got away w/ it. It's 4 decades in now where the rules have been overlooked. The NBA cannot start enforcing the rules the way they were in the 60's 70's - the players would go berserk. Imagine traveling being enforced - LeBrainless James would be crying for days like he did when called for 1 walking infraction during the finals vs Mavs in 2010. It's amazing how in every sport as the players/athletes get bigger and better, they find it too difficult to play by the same rules as Jerry West/Oscar Robertson/Clyde Frazier/ Elvin Hayes etc., etc.

I see a lot of carrying of the ball by durant too.

KD does the same crossover. and it absolutely is a carry every time.

Naw bitch John Wall dont do this

+El Goose the Original you're allowed to have your hand on the side of the ball

It's funny when KD does it because he's so freakishly large it's hella noticeable

Cammy Neutron. You

Cammy Neutron. No they don't call it because it's hard to spot and second he isn't carrying most of the time. When the hand is behind the ball you can take as many steps as you want as long as you are moving with forward motion.

this isn't about steps numbnuts this is about carrying the ball. doesn't matter if you have a live dribble, you cant carry the ball with your hand underneath it. you haven't played much have you?

JRLM that's kind of what I just stated, just dumbed down. 😂

oldfrend your hand behind the ball is not carrying. Period.

Emoji it shouldn't be you should call the game right .

No way Mike Conley dribbles like that.

"If the refs don't call it its alright." Ok

Yeah every time I do it they call a travel

No, it's not alright if refs don't call it. If that's true, then clubs they play the league and pay their players if the refs are supposed to choose who will win.

show a video of Lebron doing this but worse and on every single play like Isiah does lol.

Medical Kush did you try actually reading my comment?

ChuggyWoo i meant to say it too "Marv" not you bruh lol hence why i corrected my comment . If you payed attention you would have noticed it🖒

The way you be on the man D and everything he does 24/7 is concerning. I advise you seek counseling you are on a gay frenzy for lebron

Marv Lebron takes 3-4 steps before he dunks on EVERY dunk .

Will Watson same

most players

Will Watson Harden does it a lot too

Will Watson Most do but Isaiah does this so frequently that he should called out for it. He also gets away with double dribbling too

KD often do this

It was his own fault

@@unknowninformant6730 why?

@@usersdksdfg no one forced him to play with that injury and he did anyways. Should’ve just did what Kawhi did and take time to make sure your body is right. Robbed his fans of his potential and it sucks

@@unknowninformant6730 let’s be real, the amount of shit he would’ve gotten from celtics fans would’ve been pretty crazy lol and kawhi has a degenerative condition in his knee that was caught because of that whole Zaza thing. IT and Kawhi’s situations are different lol

@@unknowninformant6730 who cares about the fans, he didn't get to reach his potential due to pressure from the Celtics and a mistake which must've sucked for himself, he served as a reminder for people to take care of your body and not sacrifice yourself for a franchise as the NBA at the end is a business

Kevin Queen. You're right, but people need to understand that carrying the ball is allowed in the pros. Some pros and pro coaches don't know that.

carrying the ball is NOT ALLOWED. i saw them call carrying on kobe a few times.

One call in a million. An unwritten exception to the pro "rules."

Its called a Pro_Carry.... come to a Rec gym with Semi pros and college hoopers, aint nobody calling this lol. We guarding them regardless.

#GellerMichael topping out at your local rec league is not the place to go for advice on this, I've seen and heard the patty cake deals between players in those league and #AalimElDay stating that it's an unwritten rule doesn't make it a rule. It's against the rules, they will get this fixed next year, along with the James Harden issue.

Iverson still the goat

AI has the reputation of carrying the team, not carrying the ball.

Lourdesita Guillermo both actually

Александр Гришин yeah I remember that! They're trying to do what Nash perfected which was sort of like bouncing the ball like a yo-yo

Cp3jordan95 that doesn't make any sense.

Jigolopuff Iverson did carry on hesiz but he never discontinued his dribble by talking 3 + steps

No

iverson did get his hand under the ball. he basically did an extended hesitation before his crossover. but the league outlawed it. but all the kids who grew up on the iverson cross over brought it to the NBA in droves. they had to relax the rule.

El Goose the Original Yeah i think I've seen Kyrie do this couple times

I never seen Iverson carry.... when he dribbles his hands is always cuffed on the sides of the ball... I've never once seen AI hands go under the ball when he crosses... Only Isaiah..💯

Dondrey Taylor so he allowed to travel?

Zygimantas Tu You know whats a joke?

Zygimantas Tu No he's not allowed to carry but if they're gunna crack down on I.T. they should crack down on especially 2 individuals named Lebron James & James Harden as well as the whole fucking league cause they all be carrying😂

Dondrey Taylor and he has to carry his sister to grave too oh man so much carry...

Lucifer Morningstar edgy

Celtic Bird

Celtic Bird exactly allen iverson did the same thing

But Iverson wasnt a fake tough guy.

Norman Powell what him being a "fake tough guy" have to do with anything? sounds like someone can't prove a point.

they outlawed iverson's crossover. stern made sure that he made the crossover more "legal". the super wide crossover that he did in college was effectively outlawed after his rookie year

ExGm Pockit no

Bruh im watching the wizards hawks game right now and wall and jennings are both carrying on their hesitation dribbles. LOL

very distinct difference betweeen a simple carry which everyone does and discontinuing your dribble taking 2-3 steps, then putting it back on the floor. not trying to take away from him, hes one of my absolute favorite players in the league, and i have been rooting for him since the kings, but let be real, hes getting away with A LOT

Bro there is no difference... You even just said it urself a carry IS discontinuing your dribble for 2-3 steps and you also said everyone does it.

Leaving in Europe I'm a fan of the NBA and not any team or player in particular. And I completely agree. Every pointguard or who ever is the main ballhandler for your team is banding the rules which is a nice way to say that he travells. But that freedom given to the best athletes in the world is what makes NBA so great. In the end the best team will win anyway considering the format of the best out of seven. But I much rather see a guy making a questionable 3rd step in the fastbreak before throwing a windmill jam than a perfect 1-2 layup or a guy getting a hand slightly under the ball before crossing his defender for couple of points in the paint than playing a game of hot potato until somebody has to take a long 3 because of the shot clock. P.S. that last one wasn't about NBA's Spurs and Warriors but some mediocre european teams.

i dont think the hesitation is a travel .. i think hes just letting it get closer to the apex 3:20 before going nack to full speed

slowing down any play you will find some sort of violation or foul lol

I remember one thing that getting up high with both legs off the ground and not release or shoot is by itself a travel.. 3:20 is exactly that = 2 feet above ground, otherwise what're we gonna get to see ? = frog leaps during gameplay ?, lol Also = 5:20 was a MONSTER TRAVEL, like, he did 3 steps without a single dribble Problem though is as coach himself said = it's not just the player, not just the instance, but a WHOLE TRENDING for years to come in question

not true

Its in the title soo.....

Sam Blanchard exactly! These people are so dumb

Sam Blanchard what do you think replays are for? Refs slow film down ALL the time to make "proper" calls. Its literally their job to be able to spot that shit

Eric Overström At your dumb? Do u think refs use replay to watch all their moves, the dont even use replay for alot of the calls, and you want them to use it for dribbling?

DDG's Buffys uh replays are used for everything, yes they are used for dribbling you fucking stupid thing

lol that guy has not been seen since you exposed his stupidity!

More than 6 lol

LMAO

Yet ap had 31 lesscarries then Eric in 2012 :}

The Lob Mob thats a good one. U get a W 😂😂😂

Demetrios Hilton Hoiberg is whiny

Uh, you do realize that Wade and Butler do the same shit, as well. Right? Enjoy: twitter.com/ESPNForsberg/status/856677432803418112

Demetrios Hilton They probably spotted what Isaiah's been doing and are saying to each other then we have to fight fire with 🔥

not one of those people you mentioned care about a 'jab'

lol wtf, this was so bad. he was TRYING to sound unbiased, but it was too obvious he was rooting for Hoiberg. He has to look at both sides.

Nick Sousa Rondo is just as big of an offender too... hell every elite dribbler pulls that crap to an extent...

Idris Burch yea man this video is bias.

Nick Sousa Hoiberg is coming off as a bit of a crybaby... Stevens could have complained about rondo when they were losing... collectively the celtics are beating the bulls... the bulls are trash and hoiberg is a trash coach...

not sure if you watched the game tonight but all of united center was shouting "Fire Hoiberg!". that tells me a lot

Idris Bruh i see you everywhere

facts

If they enforce this rule they might as well ban illegal screens, Ticky tack fouls for reaching, and many others. The NBA has made a fortune off of allowing the game to evolve unlike the NFL. Holberg has lost every little amount of respect I ever had for him

this dumbass said we need to ban ILLEGAL SCREENS. NIgga DO YOU KNOW WHAT ILLEGAL MEANS DONT DO IT. TF. reaching isnt a ticky tack foul dude go play ball get off the interent

illegal screens are already banned, so is reaching, WHICH BY THE WAY IS A SERIOUS FUCKING PROBLEM NOT "ticky tack". If you ever played in an actual basketball league you would know theres nothing more annoying than making a calculated move to get your opponent to reach so you can get by them, but they reach too far to stop you, fouling you, and it not getting called. You should be ashamed to be a damian lillard fan, cause dame is very careful with his dribble and is one of the best at not carrying

Michael Gonzales AI would bring the ball out and up. His hand wasn't necessarily under the ball. At least of what I've seen

Why does the height matter then??

riceee. because smaller players are typically faster than taller guys.

Mizuuuwu cause they don’t like getting beat by a smaller player...

i just watched jazz vs warriors game 3 a while ago, and realized KD carries the ball a lot.

Justin Fields its better than flopping..ask lebron the flopper king.hahaha

jerry james faunillan True but it's still unacceptable. The standards shouldn't be lowered because of flops.

jerry james faunillan actually it’s not better than flopping..

jerry james faunillan stfu warriors bandwagoner look at you bringing up LEGOAT

rondo and IT are actually 2 of only 7 starting point guards that do this with any kind of affect on the game

Zebediah Perkins Rondo never does that,his drible moves are all most fundamental dribbles,nothing atractive but also not illegal.

Cisum Music cp3 does this a lot

KYRIE DOES THIS LOL

Cisum Music Wait who are the other five players

Dillon Oliveto IT+LeBron together= traveling like crazy especially in the eastern conference playoffs.

Butthurt

He travel a lot in his miami days

Just because he takes 3 steps and 1 dribble doesn't make it a travel. You can't dribble for every step you take in an NBA game, or any game of basketball. Do you know how pointless and ridiculous that would look.

3 steps and 1 dribble is very different from saying 1 dribble for every step. The former is a clear travel whereas the latter is a ridiculous (but legal) if strictly enforced.

My dude you could litterally come down on a fast break, dribble once, studder step 7 times in quick succession, then pull up or matter of fact do a euro step and its not a travel. Matter of fact next time you are in an officiated game, just do one hard dribble and studdeer step in place with the ball extended as if to crossover, then bring it in and pass it and see if it's called.

You can't stutter step 7 times without a single dribble in between. That's ridiculous - any competent official will call that a travels. Not to mention, that would look ridiculous and you'd make the top 10 plays of the week for all the wrong reasons. Basketball regulations are very clear my dude.

Kovacs Kovacs do it and see if it's called lol matter of fact a lot of guards do that studder step especially when met at the 3pt line on a fast break to set up the size up dribble. And James Harden does the whole studder step euro thing. I dont do that bc I view that as a travel but you can definitely studder step and continue to dribble no problem.

TheLittleGuy4 I think that's the point. The bulls aren't playing the blazers, thunder or rockets. And even then, I've never seen anyone do it as consistently it egregiously as IT. I actually think it's exacerbated by his size. Because his hands are small and he's so quick, it's easy to overlook him basically cupping the ball. I honestly didn't think some of his hesitations were travels, he just let the ball all naturally instead of pounding it down, but the fake shot hesitation into crossover should be a travel every time

TheLittleGuy well this video was made because of hoidberg's interview

Shifu Sage so does curry dame kyrie kemba etc

But did any coach talk about other star point guards no but they do it’s just when the play offs come people get pissed at small things (no pun intended) but that’s how the game is played , refs miss calls and players get away with it.

To be real, shorter players should hardly ever carry seeing as they are quicker and closer to the ground, enabling them to have a low enough dribble to keep away from taller players..

@@jojocapone4861 then why TF is the NBA average height 6'7 if shorter players have that big of an advantage?

Explain 3:02

IT's okay to cheat I guess

James Bond cops also exceed speed limits to stop people that exceed speed limit.

Yep and the more you exceed the limit the more likely you will get caught. Thomas is wayyyyyy over the limit.

lol

Daniel Maia how bout.. those refs are paid as hell ;-)

NBA ratings down 14% in 2017.

Lol I pay for defense not scoring

is that just television viewership?

the real measure, is the money up or down?

I’d be more likely to watch it if the rules on travelling, carrying etc weren’r such a joke

Daniel Maia The only people that can possibly be overrated on the Bulls is Lopez, Butler, Wade, and Mirotic. Rondo doesn't count, since he is injured, of course.

Daniel Maia no it's that the bulls choked XD

Daniel Maia wow 2 games and he got dropped by it4 and he's only avg. 10pts in 2 games and I'll give him the 10 asts. Rondo is fucking trash

ACTruitt its a offensive league sadly

drakebelike BULLSHIT LBJ travels are nothing like this. Lebron travels consist of him taking extra steps on layups or his travel hop steps. He doesn't put his hand under the ball take 3-4 steps and repeat it.

yep it's different. IT carrys, LBJ travels, they are different things

#INEEDSLEEP

lol

n i tot this vid got deleted because some "higher ups" forced coach to

Well... imagine if other players start using this shit, and how could you not be angry if your team lost to cheating ?

sthu its cheating and you wouldn't be mad if your fave team was up 2-0 and then your NEEDED point guard got injured and their star point guard is traveling?

The League doesn't call it, only butthurt fans and coaches have a problem with it. Literally everybody does it, this video's only singling out IT because the Bulls coached made mention of it. Fuck his players do it too!

jeremy brown it doesn't really matter who does it. It's in the rule book. They need to call it.

herry chechak Irving never carries it

Ruining YUAN it's been 4 weeka

But there only would be stoppage if the players actively seeked to avoid the rules while having the ball, which is nonsense. The rules make the game. There is a reason carrying and traveling is not allowed. It gives too much advantage on offense to the point it ends up not feeling like basketball, just a similar spor (feels like handball without a goal, a basket instead). Plus, the defending rules make sense only because of that rules. It distorts the game.

Bending isn’t the same thing as breaking

Random Person putting your hand under the ball is breaking the rules.

No it’s not. It’s toeing the line. Exploiting a flaw in a rule

kefkapalazzo1 actually putting your hand under the ball is a form of discontinuation of the dribble, just like grabbing the ball with two hands or dribbling the ball and picking it up over the shoulder, if you do any of these then continue the dribble after, its called a carry and you will get whistled by a referee and the ball will be turned over to the other team.. are we really at the stage where i need to teach people the rules of basketball?.. do i need to explain why 3 steps are sometimes allowed when and after you picked up the dribble.. there is something called a gather step, if your running up the court and pick the ball up, aka discontinue the dribble, the step that your taking immedietly when you finish picking the ball up is not considered to be part of your two steps.. its called a gather step because your gathering the ball as you step, once you finish the gather step, then your allowed 2 steps because the ball has been gathered and the dribble has "officially" been discontinued.. if you exceed the two steps then your travelling. Thats why sometimes lebron james looks like hes travelling, and arguably sometimes it maybe a travel but most of the times it isnt. Look at footage of Dr J cradle dunk, it looks like he took three steps, and he didnt get called, its cause it was a gatherstep then his two steps. What lebron does that is wrong tho and he does it very often, is he tends to slide his pivot foot before he dribbles as hes about to explode to the basket.. its very fast so usually it wont get called but its actually illegal..

Gabriel Garcia I didn’t mean in this instance I mean in principle

Kas0424 Patriots it is carrying

I thought it was gonna be a video of IT basically talking about the history of Basketball till now

how??

But they wanted Kyrie, so they traded him. He's now a free agent and Kyrie barely did anything in Boston. I still don't get why they didn't realize that Isaiah was a much better scheme fit, and their offense was obviously working the best with no ball dominant players.

SenseiBoy smh

SenseiBoy You are not a REAL basketball fan

Sports have to be exciting, otherwise nobody would watch them. Imagine a game where they call everything, the referee would whistle every 5 seconds... This is nothing new, Allen Iverson also did that and he is considered one of the best dribblers of all time. And Sports have to be "shows".

d Con lmao

d Con and gooone

Then he travels to LA 😂

I wonder how many steps he travelled from CLE to LA before putting the ball back on the ground.

Welcome to Denver

people call out one guy (lebron) for traveling

its bc KD has bigger hands, so therefore his hands wrap all the way around the ball when he dribbles it.

Yeah AI was a carry machine. Even that vintage crossover against MJ was technically a carry. High School and college refs routinely called that type of crossover a travel.

Wooooww a whole THREE plays!? in 4 games? 3 carries in 4 games? yea that sure compares to this 6 minute video of thomas carrying hahaha

found the bulls fan

BuckMarley you act like he is the only one doing this

EMONEY he did one already, it’s actually perfectly legal cuz he does it while he gathers

Dennis Rodman Bulls fans salty they're getting killed out there.

celts got bailed

Dennis Rodman Celtics lucky bulls have no rondo, lmao

43 dollars in change And you're going to get swept by the Cavs or Wizards. Nobody is scared of your team.

Twoface 99 wizards are garbage lol

Carry is actually not a real call in basketball, its a street term. the violation is traveling

Dan J. P Please tell me this isn't a serious comment lol

Ian Huang yes it is lol

They both the same tjing