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Free Predator 212 performance mods
In this video, I try and get more performance out of my Predator 212-powered Coleman cc100x minibike with FREE mods!
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@alternator7893 2 года назад

This channel is SOOO underrated dude, I wouldn’t be surprised if this episode in particular blows up in the near future.

@Black66 2 года назад

Thanks man, appreciate it. Thank you for watching the videos !

@SDS-1 2 года назад

I agree, I've been really enjoying 66's channel even more than those " big name" sponsor channels.

@SDS-1 2 года назад

@@Black66 keep them up sir💓💓💓

@AnGryCruizer Год назад

yea this is my Jam too man i wonder how that ziptie got on the ground like that lol

@Johnferrana Год назад

He’ll be on @carsandcameras here soon doing collabs with @gopowersports PIN THIS THREAD 🪡

@soopittedbra 2 года назад

Way stoked to find your channel, keeps me inspired & excited to work on my childhood mini bike. Thank you for the tips, can’t wait to rip down the road again.

@ronmunroe8909 6 месяцев назад

I love how thorough you are with your process. Your channel is definitely a must for all mini bike owners.

@Black66 6 месяцев назад

I appreciate that!

@cadensterritt81 2 месяца назад

My 212 went 45 almost 50 completely stock. Didn’t even mess w my governor

@Black66 2 месяца назад

Yes, that is very common for a 212 to hit 50 MPH or faster depending on the gearing of the bike, the weight of the bike, the weight of the rider, elevation etc.

@mikesbarn1858 2 года назад

The muffler flow is terrible. Use a dremel to open the inlet. Remove the spark arrester. Mill the head .0006 for compression. Check that the throttle stop screw is set to allow the carb to open fully. Remove every other fan blade to reduce resistance. Use a discarded pop (soda) can to make a thin head gasket. Don’t forget safety 3rd or 4th. I forgot which.

@83K5Blazer 2 года назад

Would have been interesting to see just air filter removed before the re-jet.

@adamwhite2120 2 года назад

You can port match the intake and exhaust. And polish the exhaust port.

@IceRhino44 Год назад

I drilled holes in my stock exhaust, definitely sounded cool but not obnoxiously loud

@CarolTuvis-kt1sz Год назад

Try tire pressure and mabey a gear change if you have some laying around. Also you can port and polish air tunnes and shave the head

@Black66 Год назад

Check out the cc100x playlist for many combos with this bike. Gear ratios, engine swaps, head swaps, etc ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WFEVoc_an8Y.html

@OpAfAnx Год назад

Do you know if a 301 will fit on a Coleman cc100x

@GolfMotionAcademy Месяц назад

Can you drive those without motorcycle endorsement on license?

@outdoorsinohio4618 Год назад

Can u do one on a stock 212 with the jet at a 31 and a round air filter maybe we race stock 212 but rules are 31 jet has to have functioning governor 87 pump gas etc

@oldcult317 2 года назад

Cool !!!

@TJFROMDAP 4 месяца назад

For the governor I just did a full removal

@timduncan5845 Год назад

What gearing do you recommend for cc100x with stock 212 on road and off road . I got the bike as parts with no rear sproket

@Black66 Год назад

Check out this video. I was running the stock 75-tooth rear sprocket and a 12-tooth clutch. The bike had a lot of low-end power and plenty of top speed. That could be good gear for you if you're using the bike off-road on hills and trails. A little smaller rear gear might not hurt if you want a little more top speed. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tj8XxfvMbRE.html

@anthonyzamano3929 Год назад

I zip tied the governor, and there is no difference

@timb4002 2 года назад

What is the front and rear tooth counts on the gears?

@Black66 2 месяца назад

12/59

@anthonyzamano3929 Год назад

Are you using the original chain?

@Black66 Год назад

RLV gold on Black. Check out the CC100X playlist for all the different combos with this bike. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WFEVoc_an8Y.html

@rodricbeauregard1053 Год назад

Can i ask which predater,has the hemi? Ohv, right.?😊

@TheBeast0253 6 месяцев назад

Ohv means over head valve. You need to look at the valve cover. Look up how to determine hemi or non hemi predator engine. And you will get results

@ethanlambert8393 2 года назад

What is the name of the 0 to 30 app

@Black66 2 года назад

I'm using a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30

@ethanlambert8393 2 года назад

@@Black66 is it on the App Store

@Black66 2 года назад

@@ethanlambert8393 Its an actual device you carry on the bike or in your pocket. With an app for the phone. You can get one on Amazon or ebay .

@nicolec7290 2 года назад

Mine only goes like 15 mph./ how many foot lbs.

@mikesbarn1858 2 года назад

Ft pounds on what?

@nicolec7290 Год назад

@@mikesbarn1858 Can’t remember about the foot lbs. probably fly wheel

@RL69420 Месяц назад

To those who do the zip tie bypass, the biggest and most dangerous risk is the flywheel exploding at high rpm, the cast iron isn’t designed to spin as fast without the governor working. If your engine is on a mini bike that means shrapnel into your leg and thigh where major arteries are, if the engine is in a go kart, that means shrapnel into your back or head where vital organs are. Save the money and buy a billet aluminum flywheel, your life isn’t worth 2-10 extra mph.

@Black66 Месяц назад

This is why you should read the disclaimers on the 400 or so mini bike videos on the channel. Thanks for watching!

@adamwhite2120 2 года назад

I have a 99cc that I'm building up that came with my ct100. Got it up to 42 mph with similar mods. Love the channel.

@mikesbarn1858 2 года назад

I have the same for my grandchildren. Locked it down to 12 mph until they are more competent. Then I’ll open it up.

@MotionGodLa Год назад

what the mods

@kalebparsons3378 Год назад

What app is he using?

@Black66 2 месяца назад

I use A Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30 and digiHUD on the phone for top speed.

@tomasgonzalez9087 2 года назад

My favorite channels to watch about mini bikes is Royal Jz and black 66 good vid

@JVScustoms 2 года назад

Great video man!! So advancing the timing is more for helping the acceleration not so much top end? Thx for everything you do sir. We all value your time and knowledge

@Black66 2 года назад

Thanks ! That seems to be right. I've tried timing on a modded motor with the same results.

@Formalite 2 года назад

Stange, I had the exact same build, stock predator 212 on a CC100x frame and I could only ever hit 28mph top speed, but the governor zip tie brought me up to about 37-38

@reivax6368 Год назад

yea i did 30 with the stock motor but with the zip tied govenor i did 36

@3GingerCats Год назад

@@reivax6368 I don't understand why people don't just shorten the spring or swap mounting holes (or drill a new one) and wind the stop out, that way it still limits the revs using the governor rather than bouncing valves

@michaeldesantis2829 Год назад

Maybe a makeshift air scoop over the carb to force even more air through the intake might make a difference. It would be interesting to see if that would work to bring it closer to 45 mph.

@zivenwitczak3842 5 месяцев назад

Won't the engine blow with the governor ziptied? Or does it still engage?

@mc4492 Год назад

Thanks for always sharing your tips and tricks. Will definitely try these on my stock 212.. BTW ,great 1 handed filming. I know it ain’t ez😅.. Love your channel. Ride fast.. Ride safe..👍🏼✌🏼

@BayStateFishing 2 года назад

Removing the throttle stop screw is another free mod

@predator_boiz336 Год назад

I wish I understood how the gearing ratios effect the bike and wish I knew about advancing the timing and what it does

@Black66 Год назад

Check out this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xV8i59aGUao.html

@Carvino 2 года назад

shim the valves and do lash, port and polish and deck the head, polish the rod, take the filter plastic cover off, make muffler more free flowing by putting bigger pipe in between flange and box, run distilled alcohol with bigger jet

@doctorromex7804 Год назад

I have to agree that this channel is the real deal, the sh-t people actually want and need to see, the way we do it on a budget or no budget...lol. keep the truly genuine content coming !

@andrewkuhtz Год назад

Black 66, this was so surprising i had to share…i put a bone stock predator 224 in my cc100x bike with 12/59 gearing and 15” tires and it went 44.4mph with me first time out. Im 185 pounds. Beast for a stock motor in a tiny bike😄👍😳

@Black66 Год назад

Yes! The 224 has some good torque with that 58MM stroke. 👍

@aaron7520 2 года назад

add a short header and do a comparison video, watch it fly. also for free mods: Port & polish head, lap valves, maybe mill head for more compression. Gas port piston to reduce blow-by. Port carburetor to larger diameter. Drill a bunch of holes in muffler.

@Black66 Год назад

I hear what your saying. Check out the $100 Predator build. I did exactly what your saying and the bike gained quite a bit of speed. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m8aOLmuzlE8.html

@c-rose666 Год назад

lol ive got a stock 212 and it doesnt even go that fast stock. i guess my thumb throttle makes it slower idk

@Black66 Год назад

Check out the video of the Predator free mods. It was even faster than that ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y3pl7KiSTmY.html

@Only1Shogun6 2 года назад

Hey can you start doing different clutches like the Hillard clutch and other clutches like that

@sandmhoder Год назад

how to adjust the mixture screw on stock carb it says online tightening it makes it RICH loosening it makes it LEAN correct ??

@julianbloedow9164 Год назад

Yes, correct running these engines lean isn’t much of a probelm

@elmocabrello2555 Год назад

Once I drilled the jet on my 212 it won’t move even at WOT just sits with no power won’t stay idle will just die

@Black66 Год назад

Yes, if you drill out the jet too big it won't run. Or will run poorly.

@musicaquellegaaalma-cc6kq 2 месяца назад

nice videos congratulation

@stevenkinnison8044 Год назад

What’s your gearing on this bike? I have a Motovox with a 196cf Honda clone that I’m trying to get more speed out of.

@Black66 Год назад

Check out the Coleman cc100x playlist for many gear ratios and combos with this bike. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WFEVoc_an8Y.html

@jamesfalvey77 Год назад

Would of been nice to see a test with and without a filter, after you drilled the jet

@StephenScherr-eq9wp Месяц назад

Using 212 with 90 amp Ford alternator and 5 inch pulley need more power only when A HEAVY LOAD NEED TO CYCLE REGULATOR SO IT DONT STALL RAN ALL NIGHT CHARGING 11 Car batteries 14.4 volts propane carb on itwant to fill head with aluma weld to raise compression propane supports like 12.5 to 1 propane better for your health cool video

@mlindsay527 9 месяцев назад

Not sure if it did anything, but I “ported” the stock muffler with a dremel where it connects to the engine. There is quite a step there. Stuffed a small rag in first to keep the filings out of the muffler.

@Black66 9 месяцев назад

I have a gasket match video on tbe channel .

@The450Prodigy Год назад

@black66 so will I be safe zip tying the governor. And do what you did expect add a pipe

@Black66 Год назад

Check out the $100 Predator build video! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m8aOLmuzlE8.html

@Geogodoy 8 месяцев назад

What size was the drill bit?

@krisley5178 11 дней назад

That was a fun experiment! As a machinist, just one tip...get used to measuring things with your calipers back on the thick part of the caliper jaw. The thin tips of the calipers are the first thing to wear out and give you a bad measurement. 👍👍

@Sinmatic1981 2 года назад

This my man he’s the truth boston I got 2 mini bikes cause of this dude real talk

@TheUthe Месяц назад

I wonder how many kids completely destroyed thier mini bikes after watching this. " I don't know why it's not working dad."😂😂😂

@potentpony 5 месяцев назад

What’s the app you use to get 0-30 mph and top speed?

@Black66 5 месяцев назад

I use a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30 and digiHUD on the phone for top speed.

@Specialedoperations Год назад

I chopped up the muffler and put a sock as the airfilter on mine do that to

@EverythingFilmmaking Год назад

Is zip tieing the Governor safe , long term?

@Cal3b587 4 месяца назад

As long as you don't upgrade the valve springs and don't stay in high rpms for too long you should be fine but if your going to run it long term you should definitely upgrade to a billet rod aluminum flywheel 26lb valve springs

@mythic-arash15 2 месяца назад

Can u do one for a 79cc

@lazydog1964 Год назад

My question is why not just record times going opposite direction? Just curious and I run a torque converter and recommend it for heavier riders. Nice video

@Black66 Год назад

Thanks, because by changing the direction adds variables. It could be slightly up hill or down hill compared to the original direction. I try and keep the variables to a minimum . That way the test are as accurate as possible.

@lenny44_ Год назад

how much links are on your chain i had a 140 link chain but it broke because it was to loose

@frailybaez 2 месяца назад

what rear rim is that

@AshtonMcElroy-zj2su 19 дней назад

What all do you use for the 0-30

@Black66 18 дней назад

A dragy performance meter

@jacobramirez4894 2 года назад

Hello I have a question, recently I bought a stage 1 kit as well as a predator 212 carburetor and installed it on my Coleman bt200x mini bike but I can’t get my mini bike to idle fine. It appears it’s too lean even though I installed a bigger jet and e tube and twisted the idle screw. Would a bigger pilot jet fix the issue? Can someone pls help me thanks.

@mikesbarn1858 2 года назад

Sounds to me as if something didn’t seat correctly. Also check for air leaks around intake. Use brake cleaner and spray the junctions. If rpms change there’s your leak.

@ionhunter 2 года назад

FIRST!

@WOMANIZERJERRY 2 года назад

👏

@unknownjay801 6 месяцев назад

i put the stage 1 kit and my bike only hits 30 then dies if i got faster it hit 45 stock now only 30

@Alexander6749 3 месяца назад

What was the frist mega moto shown?

@Black66 3 месяца назад

Check out the Mega Moto playlist. I show the entire build step by step of the first Mega Moto on the channel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VbcpA0jdSIw.html

@unknownjay801 6 месяцев назад

mine only goes 30 with the a exhaust air intake and new jet and the zip tie bypass and screw

@bret2870 Год назад

I know this is a little off topic but I was wondering if you knew about the stock carburetor float if they weren't level for instance I built up predator and it was running fine with the stock carburetor with a jet kit once I mounted it to my race kart frame at a 15° mount it floods the carburetor great video again!!!

@3GingerCats Год назад

my first engine, I cut the flange off the stock exhaust, and welded it to a pit bike pipe I cut up and put a pit bike muffler on it... really cheap (and I did put a small rats tail file down it to port match it as much as possible, and rilled the jet out to 1mm, disconnected the "govna" it was still in there but cable tied the lever back the same direction the throttle pulls it, but the cable acted on the throttle itself. it was definitely noticeable where the power picked up. I would love to see the 0-30 times upped to 0-45mph as most of the lower speeds is the clutch engaging. (the best test is from where the clutch fully engages up to somewhere between maximum torque and max power) I now have a CM grind (close to a fire265?) flat top piston, 10/thou gasket, VM22 etc, but yet to test it out fully

@NVScrapper 2 года назад

Great video. Glad you found a zip tie 😂😂👏💯👽

@anxrchy1704 5 месяцев назад

What would happen if I were too remove the entire governor spring that you zip tied

@anxrchy1704 5 месяцев назад

I also just got my first frame so I’m really scared of deleting the governor in the 224 I’m going to get

@Black66 5 месяцев назад

Its easy to do. Check out the 224 playlist and the governor removal videos on the channel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1AgrkPH8980.html

@anxrchy1704 5 месяцев назад

@@Black66 I just checked it out and what does the oil sensor do as well as the rope you put inside of it

@anxrchy1704 5 месяцев назад

do you think I would need to get a new rod as well?

@noahvonbehren3716 10 месяцев назад

If you zip tie the governor can it harm the motor

@andrewkuhtz 2 года назад

Awsome video bud! Gotta love the free budget mods!! What gear ratio did u have on the bike?

@Black66 2 года назад

Thanks! 12/59

@jrunnstuff Год назад

I'm agreeing you should have way more feedback and subs on this..good stuff man and gave me something to go ahead and try

@doctorromex7804 Год назад

Do the porting on the head, belt sand the head surface and lap it flat to raise the compression, add a pipe (you could make one at home using scrap and the original flange) Cut half the flywheel fan blades off and throw away the air filter box.

@ethankrueger7200 Месяц назад

how do you not blow the fly wheel or holding rod while holding the throttle for that long?

@999benhonda 7 месяцев назад

It's crazy the speeds he gets with these bikes. I drive offroad only, and a centrifugal clutch wouldn't last 5 minutes with the kind of gearing he's running. 35mph is a good top speed with a moded 212 setup with offroad gearing. Even with a torque converter, 35 isn't bad.

@buddahmayne9273 2 месяца назад

What gears do you run

@tonybrown8732 8 месяцев назад

What gears are you running

@Black66 8 месяцев назад

The bike has had many gear ratios and engine set ups. Check out the cc100x playlist ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WFEVoc_an8Y.html

@adammackay8347 2 года назад

We still counting? Third

@JayL781 2 года назад

So I'm getting ready to build my razor it's an old one it doesn't have the shock in the back I'm going to use six of the stock batteries and buy the 72 volt system I'm going to weld a bracket system. where two of the batteries go above the back tire below the seat I know it's going to be heavy and I know it's not going to go as far as the lipo and for the batteries are going to go for they normally are supposed to I just don't have the money right now for a nice battery any reason why this wouldn't work? I have a mini bike and a other razor that I'm not going to use if you'd be interested in them let me know I live in Bakersfield California probably not far from you

@Black66 Год назад

Sounds like a fun build! 72 volts should work out awesome on that small bike. I love the razor but I live in AZ.

@calebfairchild8541 Год назад

Had a buddy that removed every other fin on the blower , not sure if it actually helped

@noahladd5988 7 месяцев назад

I tried the zip tie thing and it ruined the spring and messed up the throttle

@ejl859 Год назад

This guys channel is the Shiznit! Why am I just now finding it lol!

@thirdgenmacgyver2626 2 года назад

You can also take the resonator off the exhaust and take a drill bit to increase the size of the holes in the stock exhaust , as far as basic any one can do it mods

@Black66 2 года назад

Yes, I bet that would make a big difference.

@kevinjones4347 Год назад

I would love to see you post a video of the Coleman CC100X what they stage 1 212 hemi predator and then a stage 2 Governor removal and all that good stuff you are the best love your videos I just I just got my CC100X I haven't wrote it yet going to throw some Sun f knobbies and I ordered a 65t sprocket and I ordered a stage 1 kit and I plan on doing the governor bypass like you did.

@Black66 Год назад

Thanks! Not sure if you have seen the CC100x playlist but I have some stuff on there with the 212 and the Hemi head. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UUycm0CSavo.html

@kevinjones4347 Год назад

Yeah I've seen the CC100X playlist and the pink micro bike I should have watched the pink micro bikes videos first I didn't know you can stage two the Coleman 98cc.

@rad34cool35 Год назад

I was gonna say how does he have that type of speed compared to me and I got my answer as soon as I saw that gearing

@abebuildz Год назад

one of the best when it comes to mini bike builds

@gregswafford9839 2 года назад

This really will be worth a few minutes on kids go kart. Teach him a thing or 2 and pass along some knowledge. Anyway you post up a link to that chart you used? Sure would be appreciated. Thanks for video.

@Black66 2 года назад

I linked the chart in the description. Thanks for watching the videos!

@kalebparsons3378 Год назад

What app is he using?

@Black66 Год назад

I use digiHUD along with the camera GPS for top speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30

@jf4344 2 года назад

Fourth lol

@andrefamily883 Год назад

what rpm is the factory predator 212cc flywheel is rated at? I want to add a electric start but want to remove the gov. to rev higher.

@Black66 Год назад

The stock flywheels have a glued-on magnet. They Arnt rated much past the governed RPM. Officially you should change out the wheel if you remove the governor. With that being said I have used one on a pretty much stock engine without the governor with no problems.

@StephenScherr-eq9wp Месяц назад

Hydrogen and thunderstorm generator soon

@johnnyphillips9735 2 года назад

Nice video mr black thanks for sharing 👍

@AnGryCruizer Год назад

yea that zip tie just poped outta no where nice try mR Black66

@Black66 Год назад

Yes! it was just sitting over there...LOL

@cooper4783 2 года назад

second😭

@billframe6623 10 месяцев назад

Just curious, what phone app are you using to do the tracking in this video? Looks like something that would be handy in several situations. Thanks, Bill

@Black66 10 месяцев назад

I use digiHUD on the phone for top speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30

@billframe6623 9 месяцев назад

@@Black66 thanks for the info. I'll check them out.

@charlesyates6687 2 года назад

How far on a charge are you getting on the electric mini bike ?

@Black66 2 года назад

Range test video coming soon. We will find out .

@SharkMarles Год назад

Great video! Would love to see the head milled, and port and polished.

@cramstick Год назад

Does the torque converter swap make it faster than the clutch setup?

@Black66 Год назад

It really depends on the setup. Check out the playlist on the channel. We have many clutch VS torque converter videos ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jHf9yJmaZLA.html