Not exactly because no free will doesnt mean inconsistent behaviour that the individual feels no control over their actions. Nice people are pretty consistently nice and dickheads are pretty consistently dickheads
Have ANY of you read the Unibomber’s manifesto? The man was EXTREMELY intelligent and very correct about a lot of ideas although quite insane for killing people
The scariest part is how well thought out his argument is and how easy it is to agree with him. The disconnect (for me at least) is in the actions he took to combat industrial technology, but his philosophy is sound.
I know he ate his cake and had it too! Yeah I've seen the unabomber "Manhunter" series. But I'd be lying if I said I'd read his manifesto from start to finish.
It has been like a living sleep paralysis to try and scream the outcomes of inciting isolation, poverty, xenophobic political fear within communities and removing the social accountability of school and the public in healthy care of children. Just like my nightmares the harder I try and make noise the less anyone pays attention.
@@maebandy if you want to be heard you must talk calmly. no one listens to the unhinged man screaming "THE END IS NEAR". or the person dumping walls of text in a RU-vid comment section. trust me ive been there. Sugar versus vinegar and what not
My adopted son had a terrible time up to the age of three. Even foster care was horrible. He shows some psychopathic traits, I’m giving him loads of love and understanding and slowly he seems to be getting better.
I was put into foster care when I was younger as well and I was subjected to abuse there. Being locked in a dark room for hours and hours on end may have been the reason as to why I have low-latent inhibition. I don't experience psychopathic episodes, I just find myself overworking myself in my studies and isolating myself from people in my own 'safe' spaces. I'm 19 and dealing with LLI and high functioning autism my entire life has been challenging - my brain is always in overdrive - but finding passions and perfecting craft in them has really helped me. Your son and I are likely not the same at all but I'd suggest the same, if he has something he's very passionate about then assist him in every way to help him reach those goals. Music and having passions and a career I love is what has kept me alive/sane to be honest.
@@user-ps9yy5cb6f Your relatives can't change the definition of words, being a psychopath means your brain doesn't work normally (no empathy etc.)from the day that you are born. Psychopathy can not be cured and it also doesn't come in episodes, people just don't know the freakin definition of this word and use it way too much.
I went to Sacramento county jail in 96. The guard sent me and another inmate to the medic floor via elevator to get screened prior to placing us on the appropriate floor depending on security level. The deputy on the 1st floor gave me "our" paperwork to give them on the 5th floor. We came out of the elevator, dude I was with went straight to sitting on the ground. I handed the paperwork to the guard and he told me to have a seat. Saw a bench and got yelled at for sitting on it. Was told to sit on the fucking ground. So I went to sit next to other dude. The wall he was leaning on was glass and you could see the gym on the 4th floor below us. I saw a basketball and a guy running laps. It was Ted. Mentioned to the other inmate. Hey that's the unabomber. He looked and confirmed. Idk if he had the 4th floor to himself or just solitary indoor yard time but yeah. I saw Ted in person. I'll never forget it.
@@danielbriseno1 The cops were on such a power trip that they made us sit on the floor instead of the bench that was there. If I just sat on the bench I wouldn't have looked through the window and seen Ted.
Ted Kazinski was a smart man. He built add-ons to his shoes so they wouldn’t leave accurate footprints. Never left a finger print either . If it weren’t for the manifesto, he might have never been caught
Honestly out of all the people that rogan has had on his cast she was probably one of the top 10 conversationalists. Her ability to stay in tune with the overall issue and not deviate was impressive.
Ted was right and we all know it. The meaning of the life we live was solely to survive the harsh conditions of the nature on our planet and fulfill rooted and passed down instincts and accomplishments. This is what truly makes us fulfilled before we die. Society is basically one big slavery that has lasted too long for us to acknowledge it as slavery and we've mistaken it for life. He writes in his manifesto of why we shouldn't lose hope. Rest in peace uncle Ted, you were right, we didn't listen.
Also, when the young lady mentioned “we should be going after these people who performed these experiments like they went after the nazis” , it’s as though everyone there somehow forgot that “they” is “the gubbrmrnt”
Ted Kazinski was the youngest MIT professor ever, let that sink in people- perhaps the most prestigious technical school in the world, he was one of the smartest people who has lived and the CIA just happened to be at his college when he was still going to school and include him in the MKULTRA experiments...... a rather sinister coincidence to say the least.
Its what we used to get....now its a parody of itself almost and can sometimes seem like long drawn out infomercials. maybe time does that and nobody is king forever? idk...what I do know is that the hardcore fans went to watching clips of Rogan while the posers who only started watching him a few years ago, are now watching his full interviews on spotify. the universe is crazy
In this culture of social justice, it’s about time we hold those “scientists” and supporting government officials accountable for the insurmountable damage that they have caused. I can’t fathom a “benefit” that outweighs the damage these sorts of negative studies created.
The government really is out here casually funding every pharmaceutical company in the last decade, and transforming what seems like democracy into a corruption plutocracy. How many times have Medical Companies embezzled funds.. just publicly that is, Michael Davini, Rick Scott, John Klein, many more, just within the last decade. When they're not getting off on COVID-19 schemes, they're selling more fentanyl, like the name is Dr. Pablo Escobar, and the game is to see how much sufentanil you can flood the market with-
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."
Last year, I took shrooms at Las Vegas thinking it was going to hit like an edible or something. Shit was scary at first but amazing once you start getting deeper into your thoughts
Lets not forget that Ted was also 3 or 4 years younger than the rest of the students because he was so intelligent that he was admitted to Harvard at the age of 14 or 15(Correction, he was 16 but still very young)
@@wconniff878 always has but they have been on the rise over recent years in LA. Especially this year. Of course there are other factors but it is not a stretch to hypothesis that extended isolation will cause people to become less empathetic and more violent. Look at our prison system and the effects on people in solitary confinement. Two different extremes but still deals with isolation and a lack of physical human interaction
As an adoptee of 46yo , it was the practise of the day for myself and others to be taken from our birthmums directly after birth and kept isolated from human touch for 2 wks in "waiting" wards while the recipiant deal was finalised & giving the birthmother time to renege if so be. Studies have now shown that the failure in the transfer of crucial hormones such as oxytocin & bonding with the mother has a huge negitive affect for the rest of a persons life. I believe it played a major role as well as adoption issues of course in my life. Ive been pretty messed up i guess, havent blown anyone up yet though🤣
you know, maybe you tapped into something deep & "connected" within to survive, like God but pre verbal, pre thinking in infant language or some presence u felt?
I went through a lot of shit in my child-hood. But I have been an adult now for 18 years and I have never used those crazy experiences as excuses for how my life has turned out so far
Nah the guy and his beliefs were picked apart, I imagine he aligned his beliefs too close to his identity, in psych program during college. The outcome is/was the unibomber. Getting mind ducked, lsd or not, some people can't rearrange, adapt, reconstruct, will properly mess some people up
She never said it was the testosterone, she said that there’s a possibility testosterone had anything to do with it. Which I’m sure could be a factor, the same way thyroid hormone irregularities in females can cause them to have increased aggressiveness. I know y’all get a kick out of bashing women, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t consider what they are saying.
@@younggeezoneplus3311 The man is more in touch with reality than most people in society. Think about it. Most people are delusional and caught up in other things. Some people out there are even in a cult and don’t even realize it. The man was a hermit for several decades living alone and isolated he’s more put together than most people in society. I mean the man is a literal genius.
@@younggeezoneplus3311 plus he knows several languages fluently like Russian and Polish without ever even going to those countries or having a teacher teach him. And he got away with making bombs and tricking people, leaving no forensic evidence. The guy eluded people for nearly two decades. As said before, this man is literally a genius.
@@younggeezoneplus3311 He had a genius level IQ. The only thing acid does is break down the ego and all social structures around you. It will not make you a math prodigy, academic, nor will it let you write a manifesto as sound as it can be.
@@klaus2913 no its used to bring those out in a person or helping them find their talents and passions.. theres more to it than just the social interaction experience. But no everyone isnt the same and some people dont even hallucinate on lsd they will just feel euphoric. But nothing in this world besides steroids will make you "better " at something but even then theres still the self vs substance factor.
It's easily accessible on Spotify for free as well with video. I'm just happy he switched to Spotify, Joe Roan said himself that if he was still on RU-vid, he could have been banned by now.
The Unabomber's manifesto "Industrial Society and Its Future" is available on RU-vid as an audiobook. Just thought id mention that in case anyone was curious to listen to it.
I'm old enough to remember it being in every newspaper, and it was surreal (sub conscious awareness) to pretty much agree with a murderous madman we all knew to fear.
The author was spot on. No one wants to take an outside the box approach to anything. He was tapped for a certain agency and maybe he said no. And you don't put "the" in front of the word "god".
This is a VERY important conversation… it’s not just a high back and forth. This topic is INCREDIBLY important to the direction this renaissance is going
the Harvard LSD studies were conducted by an incredible man named Ram Dass.- Rcihard Alpert. He got fired because of this and went to India. He then met the guru Nin Karoli Baba and became one of the most famous spiritual teachers of the US.
Had two dudes in my hometown that were both in the airforce during this time frame, and were subjected to LSD interrogations. Both went from very intelligent to the crazy guys walking around town talking to themselves with spontaneous rage outbursts.
@@cameronsnow1162 and you're trying to draw the conclusion that you had the same dose as they did. They could have had what took you 30 separate doses in one dose!
@@cameronsnow1162 It's a very very suggestable drug, interrogations are not recommended. It's not really about how much you take but about how you think while under the influence. The more you take the more amplified the experience will be and quite likely become so incompressible that you create your own illusions of reality, an hallucination.
@@Mike1Lawless I mean LSD is not *that* suggestible of a drug but stressful situations can be traumatizing on psychedelics. Scopolamine is far more extreme in the sense of suggestibility though. Also I feel like many of these people were actually probably given mixtures of scopolamine and acid. If you read the trip descriptions of what Whitey Bulger went through on "LSD", I think it's quite clear that they probably mixed it with scopolamine or some deliriant based on the effects he got.
No need. We already know everything. We have his interviews and his secret notes. I suggest you read them. They tell you everything, in terms of what was really motiving him and underneath his manifesto (which was a complete lie and tool, as he later admitted).
1:59 An example of free choice is the millions of children with horrific pasts that grow up to become kind, compassionate, productive adults. All of us are broken in some way the beauty of life is we all get the opportunity to struggle against and overcome our natural deficits
I agree and see what you are saying but as someone who had a rough childhood I was lucky to end up doing music and have mentors that were parental in many ways. I had support and love I did not feel. I have seen others in my family who were not so lucky and they are struggling. Everyone should have the opportunity to improve their life and have people that help them.
This is the type content that built this platform Joeseph. Powerful knowledge, nudging your followers an inch closer to the rabbit hole of declassified Shadow Government Operations we all need research. God Bless you my friend.
i was away from my family for 16 months when I was a toddler in the hospital, I can’t remember why I was there but I still remember looking out of the window at the city view and not being able to remember anything before I was in the hospital
I love when Joe just ignores every single statement his guest makes, and just talks over them lol Every guest is just a wall to bounce a little ball off of and say "Jamie look up Monkeys using frogs as fleshlights."
I stopped listening to Rogan when he moved to Spotify. Does he still go on these generic little boy rants, in the middle of a podcast, so he can sound like some inspirational guru?
As he should, when finding he's let a Peluso on his platform. Left on her own all she was underlining was us wamminz grow faster and better and it must suck to have survived to maturity with masculine gonads and upbringing.
I still love JRE, people that hate the move to Spotify forget that he literally is just making millions to talk and do whatever he wants. When the fans say that he abandoned them, he literally said that he would do this podcast even if he had hardly any listeners. I literally have said literally too many times. My opinionated comment is literally stupid. Im stupid
First time I heard the Sam Harris free will argument I had a panic attack. Then I read Jordan Peterson's book Maps of Meaning and also heard many, many dhamma talks from brilliant Buddhist monks on free will and kamma. Ajahn Brahm, Bhikku Bodhi, many more. There's more to "free will" than the determinist argument, and mindfullness meditation will show it to you glaringly right in front of you. It's a very intense concept and experience.
The fun part about making that realization (surviving the panic attack) is that you can make adjustments that will cause other outside influencers to your life. Still a crap shoot but it’s also a possibility.
@@AadhilRizwan if you hang out with chickens, youll eventually start to peck and scratch at the dirt and become a chicken yourself. That’s what I mean.
Joe, could you please bring on Dr. Gabor Maté as a guest? He specializes in the topic of trauma and how it impacts us, mentally, physically, and emotionally (particularly how childhood trauma shapes our personality in ways that enable us to survive but may not serve us well in the long run). His insights are profound and I'm sure would be of great help to many people on their own journey to healing and better understanding themselves.
We will always think and remember to think about the symbolic meaning of the best part of one of those things that are less than one of the best but cool things to make. Thank you.
I define "FREE WILL", as not based on our day to day decisions, but in the initial decision to discover who you truly are from the perspective of your creator. This is what leads to the search of the bigger questions like; Who am i and why am i here? (6th and 7th senses needed for this journey-Intuition/Empathy) All trauma can be overcome with LOVE.
Imagine what CPS does to kids. One of my first memories I still remember as a kid was being in CPS, the family we were with took my brother and I to the carnival.. only to leave my brother and I in their car as their family enjoyed on the check they cashed for taking care of us.
You should contact the people today and just call them pieces of shit, lowlife scum, and leave it at that. Sorry you had to go through that, thats geniunely sad
2:15 I read a story about a Hospital in war torn Europe (not certain when) where a ward full of babies died from neglect because there weren't enough Medical staff to attend to them physically. They were fed and changed but no nurturing or real human contact. I also heard Jordan Peterson say that unfortunately, when a person who was neglected in this way survives, there is absolutely NOTHING psychologically that can be done to help them at a later stage in life. So tragic, and preventable.
Ol' Ted was a genius who had insights even his own intellect couldn't deal with. I don't agree with a lot of his central contentions but he had some fascinating insights. They just drove him mad. Good job, you saw the negative consequences of how humans are utilizing technology, but bombing some random Radio Shack employee isn't going to solve anything, big guy.
Shouldnt have made bombs, but he was right about technology ruining this country. Absolutley he was right about that. Were living through it right now. It's only going to get worse, much much worse as there is no stopping big tech and ruling elite from doing what they want.
Shouldda become a hacker Ted. Or helped out with Redit or something epic. He was right about tech killing skills. We coped with power cuts back when. Nowdays I think kids would implode off grid. I concur w Joe a CIA op was grooming Ted from birth. Other info of his treatment of all sorts of snake oils back then deeply set a psyche on a certain path. So, Who's in charge of AI?
@@JT-si6bl Helped Reddit with what? If anything Reddit is proof he was right. It started out as a free speech platform and is noq just a giant propaganda machine. That place needs to be burned to the ground.
I watched the show on Netflix about the unabomber so my knowledge is limited. I was genuinely crying for him, alone in a windowless cell at the end... The world left him down..
I see this comment mostly every time a woman appears lmao perhaps maybe women on average aren’t interested as much in all of the shit that men are, therefore it’s hard to get an in depth conversation about it.
With an I.Q. of 167, Kaczynski was a certified genius. He was born in Illinois in 1942, graduated high school and entered Harvard at age 15, completed his PhD in Mathematics at 25, and became the youngest professor to be hired by the University of California, Berkeley that same year. Something must have gone terribly wrong to make his life end up the way it did.
Side note: you guys are forgetting the social outcasting that happens when your IQ is much higher than normal people. I believe Mr. Teddy Kaz. Was only 16 or 17 years old while attending Harvard University
he's got a fucken point. for real. (sorry had to edit) Covid started Nov 2019. Now think of someone that has had mental issues there whole life, and they possibly just lost all their family. Doesn't go down well. now i might get censored for saying this, i lost both my parents. im of sane mind but imagine if i had schizophrenia or something, i could kill a bunch of ppl and not even remember. Its a real problem that should be talked about in mental health.
It's not a bad interjection. I've worried about it before. Hyperpolarization and social isolation... We'll have some great ones in about 20 years probably.
I had a baby 8 months ago and ever since then I can barely listen to stories like that. I didn't realize how much babies need us until I had my own. Just breaks my heart because you know so many kids are not getting what they need.
I disagree. but you are welcome to your opinion. I feel like she was pushing him down his tangents. if it was someone with more clout he is more likely to let them go on and on without any of his own input. this was one of my favorite shows in a while.
@@gkrish6550 government has some interesting ties to many people Timothy McVeigh, Manson, the doors, the list goes on and on. Far to long a list to be coincidental unless you want to be a gullible fool.
@@RazorRedPresa gullible fools are those that think women gaining some what of a twisted independence is righteous while at the same time Rockefellers funding the political perverse campaign. I give thanks to them its the reason im the same as the unibomber. its really interesting to see how so much humans can be this stupid and ignorant. driven by a evil agenda has made me evil and when i do act they wonder why we are like this but we are what they created so im not sure why theyre surprised other than of course gas light our existence and vilify us that is why i think the Unibomber had good reason morally justified hes very much like me emotionally i wish i had met him.
man.. i read hius manifesto and was concern how much agreed with what he said, you know, being a serial killer and all. i feel awkward bringing it up to buddies if all they know is that he was a serial killer and judge me for so, but id love to have a convo about it. the fact that he was a genius and mathemetician only makes his points more credible too. idk man, kinda stirred up how i see things.
The unibombers brother came and spoke with my class at school and told the story. I was able to ask him a few questions and speak with him briefly, it was crazy. The unibomber may have been crazy when it came to the bombs but he was also a genius and he has a higher iq than Einstein.
@@CakeDispenser I never asked, sorry but I’m sure it’s public information. I believe the brothers name is David. The unibomber underwent harsh psychological experiments while at Harvard at a young age, I wouldn’t be surprised if that influenced him and i would encourage you to look into that. Very interesting!
I wouldn't even say he is crazy tbh. He did crazy things but he addressed why he did it, essentially so people read his stuff and so the media ultimately publish his manifesto, and it worked, very calculated. Furthermore what he predicted comes closer and closer to the reality we live in now, it certainly wasn't just the rambling of a mad man.
I live how they come to the conclusion that we need to trust the “experts” after talking about how the “experts” experimented on Ted making him that way...... genius
Yeah man, just because that one time that one expert did something illegal, doesn't mean other experts are definitely not as well doing it. You are the delusional one, that is what the last year has shown us, experts know what they are talking about and are putting our best interests first. Oh wait. That is not the case even a little bit. Congratulations clown.
No offense, but why are white people always so self deprecating? If white people would stop following the “experts” and stop believing CEOs, politicians, authority figures, scientists and doctors are special, we would get our freedom back. I’ll listen to other people and ask for their advice,, but at the end of the day, my opinion is the only one that matters in my life.
200 IQ He was ' disturbed' because he saw the future and the 'mess' we are in, now. All you have to do is read his papers and listen to his jailhouse interview. He predicted this screwed up world verbatim.
It's like he knew we would use these social platforms the way we do back when people used the Yellow Pages for a #1 resource. Very astute uderstanding of behavior as a society.
lmfao oh god, you come off as a cringey 14 year old. the guy was a fucking lunatic, im convinced you havent even read what he wrote. hes a movie villain.
@@amaadmahfooz8069 8:10 she just accidentally fked up and admitted that Joe Rogan has 2 CIA officers working in the JRE offices.....Did anyone else catch that? He is now a confirmed government shill!!!!!!!!!!!
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