Freelander Prop Shaft Bearing change - Has the grinding stopped?

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To fix Hippo the Mk1 Land Rover Freelander's grinding noise we diagnosed the prop shaft bearings as the source of the issue, so today we're dropping the prop shaft off the car and fitting new bearings.
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@furiousdriving Год назад

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@giulianomarco Год назад

All props to Matt! 😁👍

@ethandominguez3797 Год назад

I thought my MG was a pain to own. I commend you for carrying on with the Freelander!

@skimmingstoness Год назад

They were trolling every single buyer when they named it the Freelander

@philipbunker146 Год назад

Did a “proper” job there Matt. Felt your pain with the refitting trial and error lol 😂

@chrisrickett1 Год назад

I don’t do vernon Kay or ten to the top I still listen to Ken and pop master on greatest hits radio

@Snarfcat Год назад

I never thought I would hear Matt promoting Snake oil ... VPN's

@furiousdriving Год назад

I’ve used them for years, food security and could only log into the work server with one in an old job

@Andy-sh9eq Год назад

The best thing to do with the sill covers is take them off and throw them in the bin, they trap mud and water making them rust quicker than if they were not there.

@skodakatie7341 Год назад

This procedure required a lot of brawn, and brains lol Well done Matt, that was a difficult task to undertake on your own❤.

@JustCallMeHorse 7 месяцев назад

How I did mine was put the VCU back on first but loose, then connect the prop shafts on was more easy that way :)

@delukxy Год назад

Looks like you will be changing at least one silencer. Did I see that the exhaust pipe was resting on the rear ARB? That can transmit noise into the car.

@furiousdriving Год назад

I didn’t notice, will check!

@paulhardy2014 Год назад

Felt your pain during that, fingers crossed it’s sorted 👌👍👍👍

@eddieMurphy11111 Год назад

you should have marked around the hanger bearings so you can put the new ones back in the same place and get some Lanogaurd on the underside it is good stuff I have done my wifes Freelander and hers is 25 years young and she has had it 23 years and yes the props are pre balanced so not need to mark them and you would have to tell your insurance if you took the prop off and there is no truth in them being better on fuel without the prop, but very well done but while you are under the car check the oils in the gearbox ,ird and back diff

@rogerbyrne9040 Год назад

Agree with other commenter, l would leave sill trims off as you are not going off road. Could spray paint bottom inch of sill if you want keep the look- Simples!

@huwdavies6650 Год назад

You'll be glad to be getting back to welding on the Crown Vic.

@thisiszaphod Год назад

Many owners as a matter of course remove the propshaft for most of the year to replace it for winter - for reasons of fuel economy.

@trainman665 5 месяцев назад

Usually it’s because it has broken and they don’t want to maintain it properly.

@retromatt74 Год назад

Nice work! I think I have a similar issue with my Touareg, that will NOT be a fun job...

@DashCamSerbia Год назад

Great job.

@CortinasAndClassics Год назад

I know exactly how you feel Matt. I had to do the same thing on the cortina

@TheCounty90 Год назад

Fair play for not turning the air blue. If I was a RU-vid man it would be just one constant bleep on a job like that.

@cappaculla Год назад

Good job, well done!!

@hondamonkeyboy Год назад

Back to tinkering. Now we're talking.

@BRED510 Год назад

Easiest way with a prop is bolt an end on first then work your way along. Starting in the middle is much harder!

@petetheresellerandscrapper849 Год назад

If you haven't got the bearings seated completely home and ones at a fraction of a angle it will make a noise there a pain in the a**** also if you have to take the prop off again start at the back then middle then front and front middle back for putting it on it's alot easier and less stressful

@richardhunt1384 Год назад

Still haven't invested in two lengths of rope then for your ramps! 😂

@furiousdriving Год назад

Don’t need them with a 4x4!

@garyhewson7091 Год назад

Grease the propshaft UJs too! They should be fitted with nipples.

@delukxy Год назад

They can get very noisy. I didn't see Matt check any of them. Would have been a good thing to do when the prop is off as you can move them to their max angles then. Can't do that on the car.

@furiousdriving Год назад

They all moved around a lot in the floor, no noise from them. I don’t think you can grease the factory ones, after market ones can have grease nipples though

@richardhunt1384 Год назад

Think they're sealed UJ's.

@allanriches9381 Год назад

turn the radio up

@jimmyquinn9639 Год назад

Lovely job Matt 🚘🚙🚗👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👏👏👏👏

@davestraight8219 Год назад

after taking the trim off underneath 0.02 secs after that i would been getting the bilt hamber out or lanoguard

@furiousdriving Год назад

Did put some paint on it!

@freelander.1 Год назад

This freelander is quite rusty… poor boy

@stevie007 Год назад

👌👌

@nickhaag7803 Год назад

If it makes a noise at 20mph then drive faster!

@malcolmlane-ley2044 Год назад

You really do need a vehicle lift of some sort, even a scissor lift would be a game changer as all that wriggling around on the floor is a real no no.

@billgriffiths1685 Год назад

Yipee i'm3rd

@miked6505 Год назад

leave the prop off you get better fuel economy

@paulriggers1558 Год назад

the reason your lander was faster in 2WD is that the front + rear diff ratios are different, so the tyres are constantly fighting each other, sapping your power + mpg. the VCU has the job of separating the fighting diffs, that's why it doesn't last long they are actually very capable in 2WD, my prop was in the boot when i bought it, never got stuck, so never went back on by the way, the dodgy ratios were to "improve handling" ... yeah... PS, somebody did make a kit with a gear lever to disconnect the prop, but that was a long time ago

@jacobfoster6773 Год назад

I believe the reason for the different ratios was an attempt at forcing the power balance towards the front wheels as they deemed the target market to be used to front wheel drive vehicles.

@TK42138 Год назад

The transmission set up is biased towards front-wheel drive unless wheel slip is detected within the VCU then the fluid in the viscous coupling shear-thickens and starts transmitting torque to the rear axle. When they start seizing or completely seize, torque is transmitted to the rear axle all the time as it effectively locks up both axles - not a good thing when driving on road as it causes transmission wind-up and tyre wear - and eventually failure of the IRD and rear diff.

@highbury1972 Год назад

Well done Matt! I had my doubts you’d get the prop shaft back in due to its weight. We should crowd fund you a ramp!!

@tonys1636 Год назад

A VCU is basically a mini Fluid Flywheel but as so small and having to handle a lot of torque not surprised they pack up after a time.

@jacobfoster6773 Год назад

Especially as it's basically always slipping to cope with the front and rear diff have different ratios.

@anthonystevens8683 Год назад

Nice one Matt, this is definitely progress. I'd stick with the current viscous coupling for now until it becomes an itch that needs scratching but might consider getting a replacement ready for a swap out. It's great to see Hippo back on the road with all four paws driving.

@rimmersbryggeri Год назад

I would say of course it's balanced off the car and since the fastners are not simular theres no chance of putting it on back to front either which may be the real teason why you should mark anyrotating assembly where it could be an issue.

@fhwolthuis Год назад

Well done, Matt, quite a job that was! I'm sure it will be fine, a little bit of noise should be normal with an older car, especially an off-roader

@richardsheil5289 Год назад

Nonsense

@terryatkinson899 Год назад

Yay, feel your pain, ive a gearbox and all that goes with it to fit to my cinquecento on the driveway, been 2 months since I took it to bits so piece of cake 🙄 famous last words.... everything is surprisingly heavy when you're on your back under the car 😭

@mikelongland Год назад

I AM A FOMER MECHANIC.ALWAYS MARK THE PROPSHAFT TO DIFF WITH A MARK OF SOME DESCRIPTION.

@AndyC2_ Год назад

No need to shout 😂

@paulriggers1558 Год назад

i can tell you are a former mechanic, because you are SHOUTING, yup, all grease monkeys are a bit deaf...

@andyarmstrong1493 Год назад

Terrific work, Matt. As you say it would have been way easier with a lift. We knew that wouldn't stop you though!

@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain Год назад

Great little tinkering video Matt, nearly bought a Freelander without the Propshaft fitted many years ago, I wonder if it was the same issue as yours and it was turned into a 2 wheel drive to remove this issue.

@furiousdriving Год назад

It’s really common for the bearings or vcu to go and people can’t be bothered to fix so do that

@EVguru Год назад

Oh look, Matt's got a pry bar handy to put through the prop and stop it rotating whilst he undoes the bolts. No, no, he's just going to try standing on it. Every now and then, you seem to be channeling Reg Prescott.

@habsom1406 Год назад

Tenacious Matt strikes again, is there nothing this man can't tackle on his drive! Great video, well shot and explained. Would be more economical and nippy in 2wd but perhaps it would void the insurance being a modification of sorts?

@taficegaming Год назад

With the exhaust I would ignore until mot lol

@raysmancave1 Год назад

Yip I think you have found out that mechanics are gluttons to receiving pain and arm muscle strain by being twisted into impossible positions. Car parts come off easily due to the powers of gravity, they fall and twist before hitting terra firma. When on your back, one arm managing a jack, the other attempting to wangle it all together, and your legs and knees levering and twisting things. Only then to find out you need to get bolts in place before you discover that everything has to be tightened up and no limbs to help you, so you prop something else up on your head to free one hand A quick note to the wife,,,,,,, All proof that YES we can multi task ,,,,,,,,

@Nervejam 3 месяца назад

Cheers! I was considering buying a £500 Freelander with "possible prop shaft noise". Think I'll swerve that now..

@petermarshall5932 Год назад

Rear tyres on a freelander are always noisy. Land Rover only fitted one make of tyre to reduce the noise

@dord1954 Год назад

I left our prop off we don’t really need it plus we get better mpg without it 👍

@ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΣΕΥΘΥΜΙΑΔΗΣ Год назад

Fantastic job but treat with antirust or something the bottom of the car❤

@AliMackMechanical Год назад

I have done a few of them propshaft bearings bit of a pain in the neck. They are normally quite noisy. There is various ways of checking the VCU on them. One thing you will notice is tyre ware on the inside of the tyres. Only one of these av not had is an auto or a v6. Hopefully that sorts it.👍

@furiousdriving Год назад

The old tryes were very even so that’s good then

@AliMackMechanical Год назад

@@furiousdriving That's a good sign then. I will probably just be the bearings.👍

@HoLeeSheett 10 месяцев назад

Looks like the van behind you is missing a wheel stud 😂

@peterthebricky Год назад

Ten to the top replaced pop master 😮not in my house

@maxidyne Год назад

Very decent job Matt! No more grinding 👌

@MrGaryRoberton Год назад

fit shaft A into receiver B While keeping shaft C in Receiver' D without dropping center E on yourself. Requires three legs and four arms.

@habsom1406 Год назад

...to be accompanied by "4FS"...😄

@andypicken7848 Год назад

He loves crusty cars our Matt

@RobertSmith-di5ll Год назад

why do we bother?

@SimpsonsClassics Год назад

Great video! I remember my freelander and having the same issue!

@campervanman1813 Год назад

K or L

@TheMaccatakker69 Год назад

Man vs Prop. Very entertaining duel! The underneath looks a little sore. Perhaps think about treating a a bottle of Lanoguard or waxoyle. Mac from Stafford

@JoonaParhankangas 10 месяцев назад

Was the both bearings the same?

@furiousdriving 10 месяцев назад

Yes, both the sane but one was worse condition

@donnysweekendvanlifetravel7854 Год назад

well done matt come drive mine then yu can tell if its less drag can meet up again i replaced my vcu in jan this year made huge diffrence all the best donny

@Bratfalken Год назад

I had the gear going off the crownwheel in the front differential to the hypoid gear angling it to the propshaft for the rear totally stop working on a 2000 Chrysler Grand Voyager AWD. It was easy to get the faulth as the old hypoid oil smell was a total give away. I installed a used one and it worked totally okey, and I learnt a bit about these "backwards" driven hypoid gears. The right driveaxle goes all the way through this gear into the differential after the gearbox. AWDs are good at making cars go in snow, but doesn't help in real 4WD terrain where lockup differentials are superior in every way. The muffler, how did it go with that one? Only some outer shell or?

@robmog88 Год назад

Isn’t the noise the hole in the exhaust?

@furiousdriving Год назад

not actually holed, just the outer skin

@lesklower7281 Год назад

What made removing the prop shaft resonably easy was the fact is that somebody had been there before now when l removed the prop shaft from my 1997 Hilux nobody had been there before its in two parts and the flange that attaches the diff l eventually got the four bolts out t he prop shaft stayed it place had actually put in gear and drive it a couple of feet to release the prop shaft from the diff and the prop shaft support bearing is original and it is in good condition l did this to replace the uni joints mind you the Hilux has 430000 kms on it and is 27 years old and nobody had been there before to change the clutch they just removed the shorter prop shaft

@tallblokesam Год назад

Reverse on full lock. If the car pretty much stops or feels like it's binding then VCU is probably dead. I replaced the one on mine and it now rolls freely backwarss around in circles and is almost silent.

@rogerbyrne9040 Год назад

Knew someone who had one of these new in 1999 and from new he had to pull the steering wheel away from the kerb when driving as it wanted to drift left all the time. It was due to the four wheel drive system and the tyres wore very quick. It was a lovely jeep though, very cool.

@solidnowproductions8056 Год назад

I've been told there is a problem with the cheaper replacement bearings, they should be completely silent when you test them and if one isn't there will be a noise. Yours didn't sound that silent in the video.

@interdec Год назад

Propshaft out…perfect opportunity to replace the universal joints? Have to get it back up on the axle stands and run it again…see where the noise is?

@chrismaguire719 Год назад

Job done well mate.👍👍 I’d be looking at sorting that rust out underneath it before it gets out of hand. Won’t take long before you’ve a boat load of welding to do otherwise

@kevinnye5132 Год назад

Grindy noise never good on bearings or teeth Matt or much else really in life 😂, oh there is one grinding that’s great 😁 will leave that to your imagination 😉.

@mrcogginsgarage7062 Год назад

One small thing you need to check Matt,make certain that the bearings that you have replaced,are fitted central to the line of the run and not one sided.

@phil7301 Год назад

That box feared for it's life under there and ran off ! (23:14) 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👍

@chrisgosling6083 Год назад

wow no welding!! sure it was one of your cars and not the neighbour's 😉 putting the last bolt in is always a good feeling

@patrickh7368 Год назад

Well done..! But if you put the selector in neutral the flange would rotate to change alignment…🤔

@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491 Год назад

I could never keep my impact gun as clean as yours... it only took a week for it to be all scuffed up 😂

@jimmyk9523 Год назад

Boat anchor underneath this car. Chassis rails look like they're gone

@shannonireland9057 Год назад

Thanks

@furiousdriving Год назад

Thank you!

@richardhargrave6082 Год назад

Well done, Matt! I don't have the patience to do this stuff!

@bikeman123 Год назад

Leave it 2wd until winter and see how the mpg improves.

@thughes52 Год назад

Good prop rebuild Matt you did good with all the weight ...

@markjackson887 Год назад

Really enjoyable video Matt, love a bit of tinkering.

@terryatkinson899 Год назад

And next week the exhaust will need doing on the LR 😭

@porscha901 Год назад

Top of the props

@MrDavidcoote Год назад

Nothing can replace Pop Master ! 😄

@williamwales6619 Год назад

Yeeha! Happy Days are here again.

@denishoulan1491 Год назад

I hope that you understand that the VCU is a service item and should be replaced every 75K miles. When they are not changed it chews up the teeth on the pinion that drives the rear propshaft. The oil in the VCU thickens up and it fails to operate as designed..

@furiousdriving Год назад

Yes, but this was changed by the last owner 2 years ago so should be ok

@jasoncornell1579 Год назад

Did u use the tea shelf?😊

@philipmaclean7266 Год назад

Great video

@allanmollison6971 Год назад

Making great progress Matt 😊👍

@SportFury1966 Год назад

You once mentioned checking the fluid levels - did you?

@furiousdriving Год назад

no but as the noise went with the prop gone it wasnt the gearbox

@andrewthompsonuk1 Год назад

I doubt the VCU would make noise unless you are turning sharply or wheelspinning the front wheels. I I did a carrier bearing on my X3 BMW. It was hard work getting it to saparate. Ended up using a large puller and driving a chisel into the gap until...bang...

@edwinblank58 Год назад

You would expect that a Britisch car had a better rustproofing. It's always raining in the UK.

@roygardiner2229 Год назад

Kudos from me, sir! There are some jobs, in fact many, that I would not contemplate attempting myself. Like the one you have just accomplished. I think you show that where there is a will, there is a way. 👍 Mind you, I also observe that you have many, many tools. Sometimes they are essential.

@furiousdriving Год назад

Mostly hammers needed for this one!