Freemason Sufi Druid: Robert Graves Gets Esoteric 

Thank you so much for delivering this timely wisdom! Just last night I was contemplating the river of tears... I am being drawn toward this understanding. I recall Alph the sacred river that thru caverns measureless to man and down to a sunless sea... Music of Eric Clapton comes to mind. In the image here I see a man weeping and the consoler comes to him

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@TV Apocalypse 🌟 day 110 I will check out your channels and content. Thanks again for reaching out. Cheers and Namaste!

@SpiritualRelief Bless you, my friend! I'm only halfway thru your video. Haven't even got to hear about Robert Graves yet! I keep having to pause to make notes and to text. So thrilling to find your channel and such beautifully packaged and precious rare wisdom freely shared! My gratitude!!

@TV Apocalypse 🌟 day 110 Thank you for your kind words... It is "Rober Graves" speaking... he is explaining his experiences in the intro to a book written by Idries Shaw called "The sufis. "... cheers, brother!

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Thanks, Cheryl. Rumi changed my life and connected me to sufism. It's probably the biggest single spiritual influence on me. Cheers and Namaste 🎉

Try also to find Hafiz poems .. Hafiz was Attars student, just as Rumi was … there is a book of poems called : “ the gift” By Hafiz , it was said to hold all the secrets to Enlightenment….

@@ofrapeters3952 love Hafez

If you're reading Rumi's poetry in English.. then Im so sorry, you're missing out on the true essence of Rumi. Everything gets lost in translation

@@jayr.7209 Same thing with Hafiz poems , but not everyone speaks and read Persian , and it’s up to the translator to do a decent Job , but of course it’s not the same …

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Where and to wht order did tht sufi belong. I am a kashmiri myself,and a fellow student of tasawuf.

@@mrloamdii.3245 he was connected to Idries Shaw

@@mrloamdii.3245 Oh , nice to meet you , I am sorry I do not know , the Sufis I met live in Srinagar, that’s where I was visiting from America..

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Thanks, Mark... I also have re found him after this research and was also surprised at what an interesting character he was.... cheers 🎉

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Thank you, Maria. I love poetry when it hits home like that. Cheers and Namaste!

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That's amazing, Java Magic. It has also been a suprise for me because I studied Sufism as well, and now hints my master gave about Freemasonry make total sense. At the time, I couldn't believe the two could be so closely connected. Cheers and Namaste!

@@spiritualreliefchannel FYI in Indonesia during the East Hindia Era, there a lot of Freemason lodges in Java. In my home town alone, Bandung, there are several masonic lodges but only a few that still around as some random cafe, boutique, or totally abandoned. The famous one are called Sint Jan Lodge (Saint Jan) that was demolished long ago and Al Ukhwah mosque is built upon its ruin. As far as I know, Madam Blavatsky herself is visited some of this lodges during this time. Interestingly, members of this fraternity are either an educated Javanese-born nobility or very pious and deeply spiritual 'clergyman', note that I was highlighting the 'Javanese' because stereotypically they're tend to embraced mysticism rather than orthodoxy in their religious life, pretty different from the Sundanese in Bandung that tend to be more identified with the traditional Islamic faith and teaching.

@Moch. Faris Dzulfiqar very interesting. it sounds like a real melting pot there. Thanks for the Blavatsky tip. I'm doing deep research on her. Cheers and Namaste!

@@moch.farisdzulfiqar6123 what an interesting observation. Let me ask your opinion on a few things that spring to mind. Do you believe that the Sunda have always been less mystical in their beliefs than the Javanese? Certainly over the last ten years there has been a noticeable spread of non-mystical Islam westwards, therefore I have assumed it to be a fairly recent difference. Not least as I understand that 'Salafi' practices came to Bandung, via ethnically Javanese residents from Cirebon. I have read that Theosophy had a major impact on Kejawen, but am rather sceptical. I understand that the Dutch colonists were ardent Theosophists and that indeed some of this same Javanese nobility had embraced Theosophy. But I had also assumed that these Javanese were mostly those living in Jakarta and as you say Bandung. Of course I can see where Theosophy may have influenced Kejawen, but had written this off as common antecedents. So Kejawen is influenced by Majapahit Shaivism whilst Blavatsky was influenced by Tibetan Tantrism. Certainly, I can find no evidence of Theosophy in the village heartland of Java. Finally how does Free Masonry relate to all this? Again I can see it being important to the Dutch colonists and a displaced Javanese nobility. But this seems to be entirely absent from the village heartland of Java. Of course I am making a distinction here between what might be called folk Kejawen and Kraton (or high) Kejawen, but really do believe that the villages of Gunung Kidul inherited the Majapahit legacy to an even greater extent than the Kratons.

@@TheMagicofJava I like your opinion, but I can't answer your second question because I just know that they're used to be around, gathering some of our educated people, then President Soekarno banned their activity in the Republic and the rest is history. They're definitely shapes Bandung in some way, in particular, through architecture and city planning. But not the psyche of her people and Sundanese culture in general. As for the first question, it's quite tricky to say, since we need to consider which Sundanese people we are talking about. Are they from Bandung, Sukabumi, Kanekes, Garut, or Kuningan. In Bandung alone, there are similar spiritual community at the surface, but radically different if we come to their gathering and went we discuss their cosmology. I myself a honored member of Besdaya community that educate and promote Sundanese calendar, we talk about some stuff that similar to this channel and something that sounds like out of Terrence McKenna's lecture, when we discuss a Sundanese cosmology. Unlike Sunda Academy community in Dago, founded and lead by LQ Hermawan (Abah Uci), that concern in spiritual awakening and Wiwitan Sunda (notice that I make a distinction with Sunda Wiwitan here, because the later are exclusively held by Urang Kanekes/Baduy). Yet, their topics of discussion, their hub, and meditation practice are more like Hinduism. So yeah, it's quite complex and nuanced. But in my opinion, the Sundanese are not less mystical in tendency compared to the Javanese, only more subtle like in the famous story of Kabayan (which is very sufistic and similar to Abu Nawas and Nasrudin Khoja) and perhaps in some way could be seen as rational such as the philosophy of Tritangtu. Also, some of this people that I met seem like they're didn't even realized that what they think and they do are mystical in nature, and I have a funny story about this, back then in the community of Teater Lakon, there are some dudes that was slack off and one of them come with some wild idea to worship a palm tree in front of Al Furqon mosque. These guys then gathered around this said palm tree and begin to chanting a sacred Sundanese mantra 'Hung, Ahung!' complete with ritualistic gesture. Could you guest what is happened next? Suddenly, in the clear sky, a thunderbolt struck that palm tree! Then one of them cry, "I'm sorry God, it was an improvisation." There's a lot more that I could tell, but so far that's all I can said regarding my point of view. I myself are not practicing Sufism or Wiwitan Sunda, just some seeker that influenced with Western philosophy (especially Nietzsche's thought), Sufism in here and there, and Taoism.

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You are correct, Jack. Sufism in the context of this video is analogically like mistletoe, able to graft itself amongst the religions, Islam being the most recognized. The video also mentions that Sufism is the secret heart of all religions. I hope you enjoyed this presentation. Cheers and Namaste 🎉

@@spiritualreliefchannel I was, for a while, a member of a sufi order. So the teachings are close. There's an interesting little book that overlaps with your inclinations: "Jesus the Sufi". It makes the claim that Christianity before it was labelled that in Turkey was called " the way". Something Gurdjieff might have understood.

@Jack Brown Warms my heart to hear. I also found a sufi connection post Gurdjieff. Thank you for your feedback and input. The source of the video is the introduction to an Idries Shaw book

@Jack Brown Thanks for the book tip. I am going to read it this week ! Cheers

@@MrResearcher122 "The Way" is in the Bible itself - it was the term the early Christians used for their movement. See Acts 9:2... The thread that underlies all mystical traditions (including Sufism) is Neoplatonism... Jewish, Christian and Islamic mystics all have been influenced by the Neoplatonists to varying degrees...

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Awesome, Gurdjieff led me to Sufism. Cheers Geoffrey

Gnostic hermetic shite. ✡️⚕️✡️

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Thank you, Jeoffrey... your enjoyment makes it more than worth it... cheers and Namaste!

agree!

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Thank you for your beautiful words... Amen to that !

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So cool !

Cheers and Namaste!

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Yes Carl, he was a suprise find for me...

Amen Miranda

Yes, good books, although for me it's been a while! Thanks, Carole.

Yes, Reen. It is Graves in his own words describing his lesser known mystical connections ! Very interesting. Thanks for your feedback!

Thanks, Adam ! Cheers and Namaste.

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@@spiritualreliefchannel this is all bullshit on here. Lmao.

@Jason O'Dell Thanks brother lol !

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Super cool, I really like the tenants of Sikhism as well, and I was also not cut out for fundementalist religion despite my appreciation for its beauty. Cheers and Namaste!

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If anyone thinks this is way off the mark… that’s the point. Only those who know the kernel language (key) can see the invisible thread of the source knowledge.

@@intelliGENeration Written Albanian could easily confused for written Welsh. Wales being the true heartland of the druid, not Ireland.

@@spiritualreliefchannel A video on Kernel perhaps ???

@@khetkast perhaps!

Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm super glad you are enjoying it... New video out this Friday ! Cheers and Namaste.

Thank you for your detailed reply. I also read all the sufi parables and loved them ! Namaste

@@spiritualreliefchannel ….sometimes it seems like ‘people’ need to know that there are people who are very philosophical as well as, experimental. 😊 .

@@BelindaPadro-jh4zo agreed!

@@spiritualreliefchannel I apologize for not acknowledging your work and thank you for talking about the Sufi. This is a great idea and “Spiritual relief” couldn’t be a more apropos title. Thank you again, maybe you could talk about one of your favorite parables next(?).

No worries, and yes, I owe you a favorite Parable !

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For clarification sake & conceptual example This video made comparisons with freemasonry in aspects of Their Unaware impact, Theology & Obscure Nature. Little is said of the development of free masonry being prescribed by the druids in order to combat the impact of Islam by conversely utilizing its same principles in structure although simultaneously adulterating its construct Of purpose.

@@villagevaliant thanks for your insights!

Thanks Shaziq, good question! You are listening to Robert Graves introduce Idries Shaw's book "the Sufis," and he can no longer answer...

Ha I do see it now, David Lynch is also a very interesting person to me !

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You are into Occult and you are proud of it? Have you considered the end of your life? Jesus Christ can deliver you from that power that has kept your mind bound. I love you

@@thingsturn5755 "occultism" is "what is hidden". It really has nothing to do with devil worship or all that nonsense. The term has long ago been perverted and simplified by christian zealots. The greatest occultist is Christ. Because He is hidden in the (Hu)Man's Heart.

@@thingsturn5755 The word church is derived from the Scottish word Kirk, Kirk is derived from the word Circe in the Greek mythology The Odyssey. What she does is she lure’s people in her house with her magic, turn them into pigs and devour them. That’s exactly what church does. Look it up

@@cango5679 the Christ is within

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i have a question to ask if you don't mind. how do you reconcile between the literal and metaphorical interpretations of the Quran? I ask because i've been drawn to Islam's teachings recently but have always had a sufi/taoist or perennial spiritual outlook. I'm wondering if I should take shahada or not because a lot of spiritual beliefs I hold don't conform to orthodox muslim belief. and I can't force myself to believe something that doesn't make sense to me or else it would be insincere. I do believe in 1 God however and Muhammad and the prophets as divinely inspired, but i'm not sure what is meant by "seal of the prophets" though as that interpretation is beyond my understanding.

@@nylondaimon I have been I the same boat. Attracted to the Abrahamic religions but turned off by the fundementalists inside them. I have stayed on the outside despite my attraction because of this. I haven't reconciled it other than in Sufism. H

To follow Jesus: 1. baptised (Red sea).. Tempted to not keep the law for 40 days in the wilderness (40 years walking in circles in the wilderness for failing the same 3 temptations).. 2. Tempted by the scribes - 'beware the leaven of the pharisees' with the law that saved Him in the wilderness to not keep the greatest commandment - love His neighbour as Himself eg. the woman caught in adultery (the promised land is won and lost).. 3. At Golgopha (the skull) 'it is finished' the the curtain is rent dividing the holy place from the holy of holies (Solomon's temple - sacrifice without out limit, then lost).. Islam's prophet followed Jesus: 1. Pilgrimage to Mecca (law).. 2. Pilgrimage to Medina (love).. 3. Pilgrimage to the Dome of the Rock (heaven).. Jesus' 'way to the Father' for Jews, Christians, and Muslims finish at one place.. 'The kingdom is within'.. Also symbolised in the menorah candle (the complete spiritual man).. Presach to shavuot to sukkot.

​@@nylondaimon You should try to ponder about faith in God aka the All Wise, the One and our small paradigm - however wide and broad it may be - is inside a infinite one, and from there comes submission into making our dissonance sometimes just be and learning to submit in faith (which is the definition of Islam) to the One, whilst at the same time learning and inquiring towards bringing that dissonance into harmony. But it all comes from a certain core point of faith, from there it will not be complete serenity, since this world will never be a completely peaceful paradise. Our soul - belonging to paradise - suffers in this temporary world, whilst it is being tested and whilst we keep purifying ourselves. Submission isnt always easy, it is work in progress for me. But I believe in Allah and his prophet Muhammed and all other messengers and prophets from Ibrahim to Isaac and Jacob etc. Try to take steps towards Him and he will met you with many more steps inshaAllah.

Thanks, Coupe... I also, at one point, wouldn't have believed they could be connected but have since revised my opinions... Thanks for subscribing. You will probably enjoy the 6 part series "Secret Practices of the Sufi Freemasons" on the channel. Cheers and Namaste

@@spiritualreliefchannel I was thinking on these lines myself - has I thought - never the twain shall meet ? So on I'll go to part six.. And Thank you for a very thought provoking & Spiritually releaving channel :)) ✨✊♥️

@@amarshmuseconcepta6197 my pleasure !

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hY5kDtqLe6c.html part 1 of 6

Coupe truly spoken.

I'll look up the song name and update you

@@spiritualreliefchannel I don't believe the song you use in your video was an exact copy. Seemed more like The Mars Volta used it as inspiration for the outro to that song.

Awesome ! - I can't find the name of the song in my video now - apologies lol - Cheers and Namaste

Thanks, Jain !

I would recommend starting here, Kirk. nurmuhammad.com/ They have a school in LA, cheers. Shaw was a connection on my path, but you intuit correctly, he has some issues. Cheers and Namaste.

What "issues" do you refer to?

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Dhul nun sounds great. Many comments recommend him ! Cheers

He was a later teacher. Sufism has been known under many names in different times and places. Also known as the ancient science of man, it is a path to higher evolution. It pre-dates Islam but flourished in those cultures for centuries.

Yes, you are not the only one...I might slow him down in the future

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Bro what? How can you be a Zoroastrian Sufi. It's like being a Muslim Pope

@@godofchaoskhorne5043 haha that is hilarious. I am iranian and even though the country is now muslim we still have zoroastrian and sufism embedded in our culture. Like what this video says, sufism is pre-islamic and grafts itself on to any other culture. So i am zoroastrian by religion but my philosophical outlook and spiritual practice has strong sufi influence. To us there is no dichotomy

​@@pahlavandan3989 no sufism is tawassuf the spiritual part of islam

Loved that book... challenging!

Also recommend Doris Lessing’s visionary novel “Shikasta” from the “Canopus in Argos” series. She was a student of Sufi mysticism and idries Shah. Incredible information embedded in that series.

@A. Reed my mom loved that book, I will re read it at your suggestion. Thank you.

www.meetup.com/en-AU/practitioners_of_sufism and nurmuhammad.com/naqshbandi-vancouver-center-sufi-meditation-center/

This is my personal favorite teacher, teaching openly today... ru-vid.com/group/PL88312A16655EB2E2 Shaykh Bahauddin

@@spiritualreliefchannel appreciate the quick response 🙏

@AndrewClosser no worries, thank you for watching and engaging. It's appreciated!

Thanks Maseyea !

Thanks Darren, you are the second to bring that up. Cheers and Namaste!

Cheers to your Dad ! And Namaste to you Richard !

@@spiritualreliefchannel My Dad was stitched up by the Feemasons. Can I prove that? No of course I can't. Get sucked into a den of iniquity and the only answer is a black hole!

He may have simply gotten tired of going to lodge it happens one can demit anytime that the equivalent to putting in a 2 weeks notice at work meaning they are free to return to lodge should they choose to, or so long as you pay dues you don't really have to go to lodge. Once a Mason always a Mason. Now one can be expelled permanently or temporarily suspended but the first is only if one was to be found guilty of a crime perticularly a felony, the other could be simply getting into an argument with another Brother in lodge to the point of causing a disruption 😊

@@cressmason What's that got to do with resigning?

@@lobintool figured it might help you figure out why or at least how he "resigned" as one really doesn't "resign" from Madonry

I have not read it but its on my list !! Thanks for your comment

@@spiritualreliefchannel One of his best, my friend. It seems to synthesize his philosophy into a vision of what could be.

Sweet, I look forward to reading it !

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Thanks David !

@@spiritualreliefchannel I plied thru a copy of Graves *WHITE GODDESS * and GREEK MYTHS and HEBREW MYTHS for years off and on. I’m sure I’ve never fully understood the WHITE GODDESS but nevertheless found it to be fountain of interesting tidbits of knowledge but this Sufi connection is fascinating.

@David Bacote same I found this in the intro to another book I was researching and it was a very pleasant suprise

@@spiritualreliefchannel I just remembered, his translation of Apuleius’ THE GOLDEN ASS which is only 1 of a handful of books that I’ve read 3 times, really a masterpiece!

Bizarre ?