Hi new subscriber here. Nice ride I like what you did with your bike. I was wondering if you can give me some advice because im buying my first ebike. I like the freesky warrior with 2 motors and the swift horse with the Bafang motor like yours. Thanks
Thanks! I am impressed with the quality of the Freesky bikes I have (Swift Horse & Rocky). I haven't seen the Warrior in person but it appears to have the same build quality. The Swift Horse weighs in at 90+ lbs and I imagine the Warrior adds another 15-20 lbs to that, they are heavy bikes! Bike racks for heavy bikes like these are significantly more expensive than standard mountain bike racks if you intend to haul it with a car. The Swift Horse climbs like a beast so I can only imagine what you could climb with two 1000 watt motors. Having more than a 750 watt motor and a throttle puts these bikes in a class that may be restricted on some trails and paths, you would have to look at your local laws to know for sure though. Having the 4 piston brakes is a significant improvement over the 1st generation. I am not sure what size brake rotors they come with but if they should be able to be upgraded for $30-$40 if they are 160mm. I would recommend 203mm front and rear for a bike weight this much. You will have to buy the rotors and the appropriate adapters if you do. These bikes are great and have a great reputation for build quality and overall fun factor, especially at their price point. I recommend them for people who ride on the road, paved paths, & dirt trails that are not overly technical. The suspension on both of them is not going to be great compared to a higher end bike but it can be upgraded if it isn't meeting your needs.
Thank you very much for the answer. I decided to go for the swift horse because of the weight as you mentioned, and the Bafang motor that I think is of better quality than the motors in the warrior, and for what I've seen is fast and strong enough for what I need the bike for, that is commuting to work, light trails and just cruising around with the family. Maybe make some small modifications to improve the ride
Great video my friend. I just bought a Swift Horse and I love it. But I have a question. You said you upgraded the front brakes to a 203mm. I am thinking about doing the same thing, but this newer model came with a 180mm front disc already. So, will that adapter that you used work for me? Did you say you went from 160mm to 203mm? Or should I look for an adapter that goes from 180mm to 203mm. I would greatly appreciate your help. Take care and ride safe.
Thanks! You will have to find an adapter that goes from 180mm to 203mm. I have the older version of the Swift Horse which came with 160mm front and rear. I have ordered and sent back a couple of off brand adapters that didn't fit right. On my latest build I am using a Shimano and it works well. I used an affiliate link to the part on Amazon because it's short :), which means I make a small commission at no cost to you order through the link. You might be able to find a better deal for it elsewhere or find an off-brand that looks like it. amzn.to/3TOH3RX or this looks like it would work too and it's a few bucks cheaper amzn.to/3J8XWBX
Hey there, my friend. I just found something out about my Swift Horse. They classify it as a pro version, the latest version. It has a special connection and will only fit the 25Ah battery and not the 20Ah battery. I have to wait a while before I can buy a backup battery. Also, this bike has four piston brakes front and back, and you can see that they have an adapter on it already that took it from the standard 160mm to 180mm. It seems to stop fairly well, so I might stay with the 180mm. All great stuff.
Awesome! I have definitely not given up on the Freesky! I was out of town and came back to rain and snow. I am planning on riding this weekend if the trails are dry and open.
Thanks for the well done guide, it's going to be very helpful for me as I start upgrading mine! One upgrade I've ordered, but yet to install, is an improved 14-34T rear cassette/freewheel to get better climbing capability without giving up top end speed from a smaller crank sprocket. I'm curious if you looked at something similar? There are lots of versions of the 14-34 freewheel, but most of them just take the stock cassette, and replace the 28T first gear with a 34T, making the step between 1st and 2nd gear way too large IMO. But SunRace makes one where they modify the 3 largest sprockets to make the steps more uniform. I'm looking forward to being able to climb better :)
You're welcome! I just installed a 14-34T freewheel/cassette last weekend. I ordered it from aliexpress www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805494409516.html. I also downsized my chainring to a 40T which is probably a bit too small. I have very little chain/chainstay clearance when I am on the 14T, however, I am not in 7th very often and when I am it is on a smooth surface so I am not worried about it. Having the 9 levels of PAS and the smaller chainring and 14-34T cassette makes it so much better on the technical climbs. It doesn't even feel like the same bike.
Do you plan on suspension upgrades? I am thinking about buying a front 150x15 hub and lacing it to the stock rim. That will open the door to several fork options without spending a lot of money on an entire wheel.
@@sandnap How do you like the big jump between 1st and 2nd gear on that Shimano cassette? I was worried about that, then found the SunRace one, which ups the size of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th to make the steps consistent. I still haven't gotten it, so can't tell you how good the freewheel is, but I think I'll get along better with it than the 24T - 34T jump between 2nd and 1st on the Shimano (and lots of others as well).
The jump is noticeable but a lot better than stock. If I found the SunRace option before I ordered the Shimano I would have went with it. Perhaps I'll replace it next year. The gearing overall is just too high for mountain biking so the more higher tooth count gears the better.
Couple of questions: for the shock replacement, so you went from the stock 150mm to 165mm is the effect of that to lose 15mm of travel would it not make bike sag a bit at the seat when rider on? The stock shock is rated 750 lbs right? How does this compare to your new shock whats the equivalent range of adjustments is it like 300-1000 depending on how much air i. It? Im 5 10 230 lbs i have a exa form 562 which isnt great but at least adjustable but i haven't really played around feels quite harsh compared to my old coil shock mtb. 8:48 Do you think it woukd make a difference vs stock.? Ill be getting the updated swift hirse in a couple of days. 25 ah samsung and 180mm rotors main diff i think. 2. They claim the battery and motor are ul listed - do you see any evidence of that? 3. Chainring - a have a 52t i want to use but is the chainring not bolted on to the crank like standard? Im returning a hyper mid drive mtb that walmart sells. Not enough power for my weight, only get 14.miles its only 360 wh. I enjoy it but the assist is barely noticeable and range way too low unless on 1 or 0 thr whoke time. A lot of people seem to enjoy it though i only paid about 450 usd on sale. Anyways will be returning it. Its definitely thr cheapest mid drive bike on earth at that price.
Increasing the shock length increased the travel at the rear axle by about 28mm and raised the bottom bracket by about 16mm. It also steepened the head tube angle a bit but I offset that with fork having a longer axle to crown length so that the final angle with the Manitou fork is about 66 degrees where it was closer to 68-69. The DNM rear shock sag is adjustable with the high pressure air chamber. I weigh around 180 lbs and run it at 120 psi in the high chamber and 75 psi in the low chamber. Because I lose pressure when I remove my shock pump I have to inflate both high and low beyond where they settle but this depends on the pump you use. According to the manual the max air pressure in the high chamber should be 165 psi and 75 psi in the low chamber. In their chart they suggest the max pressures for riders weighing 220 lbs. I don't see UL markings anywhere on the battery or motor but they are both marked as CE listed. The chainring/crank were one piece on my swift horse, I assume they still are. I replaced both as you can see in the video. I never had a problem with the chain coming off with the stock bash guard. I added the guide as a precaution because I no longer have the bash guard.
Thanks! I have had success with KMC chains. I ordered a KMC X8 from Aliexpress to have around when the stock one snaps or stretches beyond it's serviceable limit.
I am not sure about the front suspension on either model but I suspect they are not great. The rear shock on the warrior is not adjustable. The Himalaya doesn't have a rear suspension, it's a hard tail.
I dunno why the keyboard on the warrior and the alaska are different ? It seems u only have 3 buttons on the warrior? I really want to know how much batterie will the 25ah warriior finish if doing deliveries at this speed 30+ mph on throttle only how much time will it last🤔🤷♂️ maybe like 1hr ? 1hr30 tops? If i buy a 2nd batterie and strap it to a back rack and use it when the 1st dies ? But its an extra 750$ and it says theyre out of stock, maybe they would have to ship it from china if i would need one ? It would be perfect if instead of the twist throttle they give for free as a gift they would change it to a back rack and brake light fenders like the Himalaya has 🤷♂️🤔🤦♂️ that wouldve been perfext for the price point .. the warrior basically comes naked🤷♂️
Based on the range I get out of my 20ah Swift Horse I imagine the warrior will do 60-90 miles tops. Don't take my word for it though. I get 60+ miles on my Swift Horse and I climb a lot of hills. If you can get a second battery I imagine either model will be a good delivery bike. My Swift Horse has been a solid bike, If the other models are built as well and have the same quality of battery I think you would be happy with either one.
What do you think about the Wallkee H7 AWD for 100$ less with a free helmet & rack bag ? + it already has a rear rack with a 60 ah batterie ? I've seen videos but it seems to max out at 35mph in the display but phone gps says 32mph (51km/h)on almost all reviews 🤷♂️🤔.. my ideal bike i want is to go to 38mph to 40 at least(61km/hr) and stay locked in at that speed... reviews on Freesky website says some people got it to 41 with the unlocked controller ... I need a step through bike because i have problems reaching my legs over going in and out of the bike.. and also to put reach my legs on the ground on a red light but the Freesky warrior has a 27 inch standover height .. im 5"7 so im guessing i can reaxh my feet to the ground when im on a red light but ill be at MAXIMUM height without touching my JEWELS on the frame .. it will lightly craze them .. i measured with a tape measure .. I have to commute to the pharmacy EVERYDAY 7 days a week to get my daily prescription medication and i live in Montreal so i will need to ride in -30 c snowy weather.. the battery on the freesky and wires are hidden i just need to cover the wires in front of the handle bar that are with zip ties more nicely like the Walkee H7AWD .. Except im. Concernd about the cable battery that's exposed on the H7 and all the wires underneath the rear wheel/battery for the snow .. maybe i could put a plastic bag over the battery for that 1 wire uptop , but what about the ones on the bottom... I want more than a 25ah batterie because I'm going to be homeless soon and was going to put a chariot on the baxk of the bike and go from one dumpster to collect bottles and cans and go to the grocery store and cash them in .. so i will be doing alot of going up and down from the bicycle so the stepthrough might be best.. but the Freesky has a lower standover reach so its ok i guess... but id have to go back in forth from the grocery store or to the storage unit to put my bags of cans and bottle when ever i have 1 or 2 full bags and go back to my route to collect cans and bottle .. i dunno if the 25ah batterie will be enough ? Thats why 40mph top speed is ideal ... but the H7 has a hard limit of 35mph on the display but in reality it seems to be 32 on the gps... I was thinking after winter /next summer To start doing deliveries for uber eats or wtv while doing vans and bottles .. will the 25ah batterie be enough .. i think i can get 1hr30 on AWD and maybe switch to rear mode when im doing shorter distances and turning the batterie off when im in a dumpster , to save batterie maybe🤔 And maybe after winter i might have enough $ to buy a 2nd Freesky Baterie so i can get 50ah and just strap it on a rear rack for when the 1st one dies... but that would be an Extra 750$ on their website and it says their out of sotck.. maybe if i call them they might ship one from china for whenever i might have the money and need it in a few months🤔 So basically the Walkee H7AWD is at 2650$ no tax but i havent yet called them to see if they ship to Montreal, the option wont let me on The website / but it has a free helmet, back rack, rack bag, and rear break light all wixh Freesky warrior doesnt have ... while the Warrior is 2750$ 100$ extra without those Perks and id have to buy the controller at the same time for 224 so 335$ more and i think id have to wait for it to ship aswell .. BUT will the 330 extra get me from 32mph to 35mph thhat H7 has to 38mph 40mph for the Warrior ?! Thats the problem... And im already used to 26x4 wheels i never rode 20x4 .. i think that Warrior would be better for winter , but what about all the other Dilemmas ??! Thanks alot Brother i know i wrote a dictionary & broke ur head .. but im really struggling... theres not alot of Freesky warrior videos for me to review .. i hope u have the time to answer me ... And btw i like the Freesky company better/ like that warranty and wtv.. it. Seems the Walkee warranty and return and refund policies are much stricter.. and they just copied and pasted all the same policies on Aniioki.com's website .. im pretty sure their the same owners, they have the same mispelled words and everything ... it seems like if i have a problem the Freesky ppl will help me better i think ... And another PS. Im on welfare and getting only 800$ a month so that 2750 + 224 i would have to borrow it from different family members/ friends and repay my debt about 450$ a month until i pay off the total .. and as of now i havent found the full amount .. i hope by the 1st when i get my chexk i will be able to put 800 from my pocket and the 2200 rest find some people 🤦♂️🤷♂️... but its my last chance investment for me to fix my life and get me off being homeless .. so the i have to make the RIGHT CHOICE betwee. The 2 bikes .. I hope u can help me with my questions buddy .. Nothing but LOVE from here in Montréal.. 🙏❤... have a good day bro 👍💯🙌❤🙏🙏🙏
Forgot to say.. doctors found a hole in my heart in February.. i just turned 39 year old in March.. the February doctors told me i have 3 to 5 years to live .. and the doctor i saw after told me i will be lucky if i have 1 year to live .. the last doctor i saw 3 weeks ago told me " oh i think they're just trying to scare you , for you to come to ur appointments " they STILL havent gave me medicine for that problem .. they found multiple problems that time in February.. Severe High Pressure/ 1 lung like gettin bigger than the other I dont know the word in english / the Shunt in my heart.. told me my feet are going to get swollen 3 times their size and slowly but shorly im going to have a heart attack .. THATS what that doctor toldd me man .. and still no medicine.. i need to do like 4 more tests for them to know what to give me ... its ridiculous.. she said i was on a wating list she cant do nothing more... i remember one test was called MIBI PARSANTE or something like that / one was called nuclear medicine or wtv.. she wants to put something in my leg to go to my heart for them to see wtv like a camera but its called something else... I always take the Elevator when im in the subway when i go to the pharmacy for my medication .. but today i had to walk like 10 steps on the stair .. and I couldnt even. Breathe when i got to the top .. I was breathing heavily and yelling in between breaths while sittimg down and everyone just staring at me .. i felt i was literally going to die from not having oxygen ... it was the 2nd time i felt like that this month... it was so crazy man ... sorry i had to vent a bit .. i dont really have friends to talk to... Every freaking morning when i wake up i have literally to spit for 1 whole hour all those secrecions from my lungs before i even have to start my day ... i finish 3 boxes of Kleenex a day !!! 🤦♂️😪😪😪... im just tired .. and I just sat down and been writing on this small phone keyboard for an hour straight ... im done bro .. have a nice day buddy ... all love thanks for listening 😂😂❤❤🙏🙏
Man I am sorry to hear this! I think it's terrible if doctors are giving you false information in order to get you to go to your appointments 😠. I wish you the best! Hang in their man. 🙏🙏🙏
I can't say a lot about the Wallke H7, this is the first I have heard of it. The reviews seem to be favorable but the customer support seems to be lacking. Freesky has great customer support. My other possible concern is that they don't advertise the brand of the cells they use in their batteries. Off brands come with a fire risk, Freesky uses Samsung which are good. Unfortunately that's the only advice I can come up with since I don't have experience with the Wallke. Best of luck in your decision!
It weighs in at 72 pounds. The fork is substantially lighter and the shock, bars, cranks, pedals, and seat are also lighter. I leave the kickstand off when I ride and I removed the throttle and didn't install the light or fenders.
@@sandnap thanks for the quick reply, I’m thinking of getting the Swift Horse Pro and this would be my first e-bike I wasn’t sure if the weight would be a problem for general trail riding.
It has more than enough power to overcome the weight and walk mode is handy if things get too steep or you find yourself on an uphill gravel or sand climb. Bigger rotors and controlled braking help keep the downhill speed in check
@@sandnap ok one more question lol.. how about range I know it’s subjective but I’m 165lbs if I road easily with pedal assist what kind of range do you think I could achieve.
I would love to hear from people who have more experience riding on flat ground. My estimate is pretty rough because 90% of my riding has been up and down mountain trails. I would say more than 60 and less than 80 miles on the 20AH but again, that's a rough estimate. Perhaps someone with more miles on flat ground can chime in.
did you have to buy the unlocked throttle for 224$ to get the Swifthorse to go top speed with throttleonly? Because on the website it says it locked to the 20mph and to unlock you MUST buy the unlocked controller ... also it says tge Wqrrior is 38mph to 40 Someone also said if you play with the wheel thingy u might get 3 to 5 mmph more?
I didn't buy the unlocked controller because I use my Swift Horse on offroad trails and not as a commuter. I would definitely consider it if I did use it on the road more. I believe you can mess with the wheel size in order to increase the top speed though I have never tried it.
Is it pro version? Or not? Because they sell now 25AH version. What is your weight and how long you can ride on 1 charge on full throttle and flat road if your average speed is around 15mph. Next question is about the frame size. Im 6.3. Will it be good for me? How do you think? Thanks in advance!
Mine is the original 20AH version. I am probably not the best person to ask about full throttle or flat road range. Hopefully someone else can chime in. I removed my throttle and ride PAS only and I ride it mostly on mountain trails where I climb between 1500-3000 feet per ride. I did, however, take it on one 30 mile relatively flat ride after doing 16 miles of mountain trails and had one bar left on the battery. If I had to guess I bet I could get around 60 miles on flat ground. Another rider who was around your height said it felt cramped. I put flat, wider bars (no upward bend) to extend the reach which helps for taller riders. You could also add a longer steering stem. I measured the geometry on it and it sits somewhere between a medium (reach) and a large (stack height) in most mtb manufactures line up. If you normally ride an extra large it might feel a bit cramped.
@sandnap thank you for your answer! I still can't make decision... I need full suspension bike with powerful motor and huge battery. This bike has 25a battery and 1600w peak motor. Not bad, but I'm not sure about quality and size. And I want to make sure that their batteries are really samsung. Not fake, you know.
With the stock fork or Himalo fork the parts are below. This 203mm rotor will work for both front & rear: amzn.to/3GJ9bzy The front adapter: amzn.to/3tkqP9R
Nice! It's a lot of bike for that price. You'll have to post your thoughts once it's delivered. Overall I definitely found it to be a bike worthy of spending money on to make it my own (obviously haha). Great build quality,.
Got my SwiftHorse Pro and love it! Question though on the rear shock, I cannot get it to move I weigh 165lbs and it’s like the shock is stuck or frozen or am I just not heavy enough.
Nice! I couldn't get it to move much either and neither could my wife on her Rocky. I replaced both of ours with the DNM AOY36RC which is a huge improvement.
Dude, for all the money you spent on this build, you could have just bought a really nice ( nicer ) bike to begin with. I'm kicking myself for buying one of these, it said they're good for riders up to 6'8...NOT. Im 6'5 and it's waaaaay to small for me. Waste of 2k basically. I put wider bars and 203mm brakes on it but just for commuting purposes. Off road? Eff no. If you're over 6' tall, run away. Anyone want to buy a lightly used Swift Horse? Lol.
I agree on the rider height exaggeration. Especially for aggressive riding. The measurements on this bike (seat tube length, reach, stack, & effective top tube length) put it between what popular brands label medium to large size. They are pretty close to the measurements on my medium Specialized Enduro. I am 5'8" so it works perfectly for me but I would say the max height for aggressive riding should be 5'11". As far as price, I purposefully avoided putting expensive parts on it other than the Manitou but the sale price on that made it worth it to me. If I decide to sell the bike I can always sell that fork on ebay and recover what I paid for it. I am in it just over $3k and honestly for my use cases it would be hard to beat that. Other contenders like the Cyrusher Ranger & Himiway Cobra ($2.8k & 2.2k respectively) offer better rear shock travel and a torque sensor but if I bought them I would still want to upgrade everything that I have on the Freesky other than the rear shock which would put them way over 3k. My next build will be a light-weight all mountain carbon electric mountain bike. Hopefully around 42lbs :).
The measurements below might help those of you who are wondering if this bike is a good fit for you. The method I used for taking these measurements should be within 3mm of accuracy but if you have any doubts you should measure for yourself. Freesky Swift Horse (applies to stock or modified bike) - 670mm stack - 432mm reach (BB) - 464mm reach (seat, front 465mm advertised by Freesky) - 600mm effective top tube - 450mm seat tube length As a comparison these are the published measurements of my medium sized Specialized Enduro Carbon. Specialized recommends this size for riders between 5'6" and 5"10". - 609mm stack - 430mm reach (BB) - 575mm top tube (may not be effective??) - 430mm seat tube length The taller stack but similar reach means a slightly more upright riding position on the Freesky than the Enduro. Removing the spacer below the bar clamp and purchasing flat (zero bend) bars would help compensate for this if you want a more aggressive riding position. If you are buying a bike for more casual riding these measurements are not as critical. You can always purchase taller handlebars, longer bar mounts, etc.. to compensate.
Awesome build I have the Himalaya with 2300 miles on it now, been great reliable bike. Wanted to upgrade to another model but now they aren't using the bafang motors and have seen few problems with them on the FB group. It's unfortunate they stopped using them, it's the main reason why I bought my Himalaya.
