www.swimsmooth.com Find out how one of the fastest Pro Triathletes swims so quickly. Swim Smooth's Paul Newsome takes a close up look at Scott Neyedli's stroke technique above and below the water.
For me the biggest insight in this is his breathing technique, he holds on to the air for buoyancy and prolonged access to oxygen for some time before exhale.. thats the kicker...
It occurs to me, as an amateur triathlete, that many commenters think doing laps in a swimming pool is the same as doing several miles in a lake or river. It's not, guys. If you have competed in triathlons you know what I am talking about. Personally I am going to watch this video until my screen wears out and hope I come any close to his pace in my next race.
I would recommend checking out Javier Gomez's swim stroke, much better. In particular, Scott's catch is pretty bad (his arms sink before he starts the pull)
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say. You want to push the water back, not down. That's how propulsion works. The high elbow catch (which Scott does not do) is much better in doing that.
he is a very good swimmer, great rythm, the bests improvements he could do in my modest opinion, 1st: higher hips and also by keeping is elbow higher, closer to the surface and not let his elbow sink, so he is pushing toward his feet at all time after the arm extension.
Scott is far from Mr. Smooth. His speed is primarily from his turnover and hard kick. He must be in incredible shape to keep that up over the distance of an ironman swim.
A shoulder stroke is not for everyone. Its also important to note hes only 1.71m. That means, he needs to keep up his stroke rate or he will never compete. Best of luck, I think its best to encourage Scott to get into a hip stroke or he will suffer shoulder issues for the next couple years when he gets past 40.
"but his technique is horrible , that commentator is wrong , not because he is iron man winner means he has to have good technique." What makes him so fast then? Strictly his kick and high elbow catch and fast turnover and good body roll and excellent rhythm and purchase on the water?
I'm sorry to disappoint Scott. 44:35 is very fast, but not the record. The record on the IronMan distance 3.8k is held bei Christof Wandratsch. He did it at the IronMan Austria in 2006 with a time of 40:26 Great videos you do!!
Unlike what is suggested by the commentator in the video, to me it makes sense for Scott Neyedli to hold his breath when his face first enters the water, since it gives time for more oxygen to be absorbed before he blows it out with the carbon dioxide, and having his lungs inflated keeps his body more bouyant. There is plenty of time for him to get the carbon dioxide out, particularly when he is taking a few strokes between each inhale.
There has been no mention of how the stroke of his left arm changes so much as he breathes to the right. His left arm takes a pronounced wide arc every time he breathes to the right. It doesn't look to affect the speed or rhythm of his stroke.
Wish was that good ! just a refection... to your comment on Scott "only breathing on the one side"... during his first lap filmed on this clip Scott breathes on both sides so it seems he does know how to do it...
@giveyouashot...I was JUST about to ask that...the front of his stroke looks...almost...wrong...I don't understand how he is swimming that fast for such a long time while dropping his elbows...but I'm just an intermediate swimmer, I don't really know I guess...
I don't know how people only breathe to one side. you'd have to be very careful to make sure it doesn't affect your stroke, and doesn't it make your neck sore? It seems so unnatural to not breathe bilaterally
Very fast swimmer but there a quite a few flaws in his technique; when he breaths his active arm falls right down and off to one side without initiating the catch until very late which means he is losing a lot of power during that stroke. I'm not going to argue with his times for sure, but certainly not a shining example for people to improve their front crawl from. Check out Sun yang who currently hold a the 1500m freestyle record. He has an incredible stroke.
Did it occur to you guys that the guy with a 44:35 ironman split has the technique down right and you youtubers learned wrong? Results dont lie, it pays to be a winner.
It demonstrates that everyone is unique with their stroke. Y Bilateral? Maybe/Maybe not. I've always been told that's the way to go--but who can argue with this guy's effort? ou need to figure out what works for you.
How does he not breathe in a bunch of water? I swim as slow as they come and my breathing is horrible and i try my best to do all the techniques and still can't manage to catch my breath for lap swimming.
How do you swim without sucking down a load of water when i go to breath at some point! He's barely poking his head out of the water and doing fine, with me i feel like i would swallow half the pool...
I'm not an expert, but I noticed that he is looking forward too much, and his catch is a little late. I realized recently that I could achieve a good high elbow catch by looking almost straight down at the bottom of the pool. I suppose this rule can be broken (as Ian Thorpe does) if you have particularly flexible shoulders.
Is very fast but It's not really an efficient compared with 2 beat style. How can he continue this busy movement during long distance in the Ocean ? とっても早いんですけど、こんなにバタバタ泳いで海で長距離泳げるのはどうして？
is good but still, he made 49 strokes in a 50 meter pool... thats not very efficient. Check second 44, 32 secondsbut 49 strokes .. on front shoot you can see a bit that the arms get a bit away when breathing ... some small mistakes he is not thorpe but technique is good enough, still can be better
@cottonmouth213 ex-olympic swimmer Andy Potts did 48 minutes at Kona this year. Scott was 4 minutes quicker. Cand imagine that he got too much drag. Also, remember, he uses a wetsuit/speedsuit when he is competing.
damn! i've been studying grant hackets freestyle stroke and it's WAY different than scotts...grant has a very high elbow when he pulls back...scott drops his..
Scott! perfect body position mate!!!! this is beautiful to watch. Head is still, perfect when taking a breath too, only 1 of you goggle out of the water (perfect!) very symmetric stroke, elbows are perfect too. @stevenydc, he is just demonstrating how to sight ahead during open water swimming. However with this stroke, ha! he might sight every 100 meters... maybe. he can swim in a straight line without looking or having a line at the bottom.
Obviously he can as he swims like this during long distance races in the ocean. But of course it may not work for everyone. This is his style and it works for him. Personally I think that his thumbs enter the water first, which is not good. Also his pull seems quite open and not tight against his body. Obviously, he is very fast. But of course, he could be faster.
The commentator said his Ironman split was 1.05 per 100m, which is already incredible since I only have the split time 1.30 per 100 on my Ironman swim, although I have only been swimming for 2 years ))
1.10/100m pace over 4km is quick, but you need to consider that he's probably wearing a wetsuit, he's in salt water and for some or all of the race he may have drafted. And yeah his stroke is not brilliant.
3 points, 1-look straight down (min half your head below water), 2 butt above water, 3- plant of your feet above water when you kick. use your lower back to raise ur butt up, so ur legs dont sink :)
what come to my mind as i watched this video are: _ why do all the triathletes perform the same swimming technique even though it is not regarded as beautiful, effective, correct ... whatever you can say if reading comments below? And _ would elite pool swimmers like Phelps or Hazzel beat those guys in long distance races with their perfect technique?
I think that most triathletes start honing their swimming skills _after_ perfecting their biking and running technique and stamina. It just comes last in terms of priority. I have witnessed a (sprint) triathlon where an ex-olympic swimmer (Marleen Veldhuis) competed, and she recorded the best swim split of the day. Phelps or Hazzel would surely beat pro triathletes in the swimming part, but would also very definitely suck at the subsequent disciplines.
Pity Scott packed it all in and now works in Finance, being a pro isn't all what it is craked up to be, lots of travel, expense and pain, hope he enjoys his retirement
Honestly I swam for 20 years and this might have lots of physical endurance but his technique is horrible , that commentator is wrong , not because he is iron man winner means he has to have good technique
his left arm when catching is horrible!! a little bit out of control but anyway I won´t care if I could only swim an ironman in that pace. In triathlon, swim part is not so important :P
His body roll is atrocious. Where is his rotational axis? It sure isn't where it should be! The rotational axis should be at the spine, which would mean the spine shouldn't be moving like that. He should find a new coach that won't suck up to him just because he's one of the only triathletes that know how to swim.
skyd171 My exact thought. I'll take the atrocious stroke if I can do it in 44-minutes over 2.4miles in open water. As for Sung, competitive swimming in a pool is much different than open water - sighting, waves, other athletes, etc.
