The Horse did NOT almost fall on the 3rd jump on the 3rd round guys, horses naturally lower their head after a jump. A horse won't jump something if they don't want to.....so stop hating please. Most of you commenting that don't even ride horses so you have no right to comment something you have no knowledge about.....
victoria Rice I have a Masters in neuroscience and I'm a GP rider. If you think that this is an example of a horse naturally lowering its head, then perhaps you're the one who is not knowledgeable about horses.
I don’t like the saying, “If a horse doesn’t want to ___ it wouldn’t do it.” Horses are trained from the very beginning to do what their rider tells them. They’re trained to accept tack, trained to accept and give in to pressure, train to do dozens of different moves on cue. Do they actually want to do those things? Is there any enjoyment in it for them? Who knows. This horse was trained to jump like this, as were all other eventers/show jumpers. Heck, for a lot of horses in the show industry, they’ll be “disciplined” (smacked with a crop) when they refuse a jump or mess up whatever it was their rider told them to do. Barrel racers say horses love running barrels, and jockeys say horses love racing, and yet throughout most of those races we see an excessive use of crops (and spurs and reins in barrel racing. Starfishing is painfully common). A lot of jumpers say their horses love jumping and would throw them off or refuse if they didn’t want to, and yet it’s common teaching in eventing/show jumping/what have you that if a horse refuses a jump, you put them back in front of it and smack them or seesaw the reins to “discipline” them. Note: I don’t doubt that there are horses out there that genuinely enjoy things like this to an extent, but we can’t force our ideas of what they like onto them as we have no way of truly knowing. Horses accept tack after training, but do we know if they actually like tack? Do riders ever claim that their horses love their saddle or their bridle?
There are literally horses starving to death and being abused yet people complain about this horse "abuse"? this horse looks to be in perfect condition and has been treated and schooled well. The horse loves to jump and would refuse if it didnt want to jump
I agree, those people just don't know about horses, probably just assuming the horse hates it. The horse is in perfect shape and looks beautiful. It actually enjoys jumping!
I loved how you could tell he really wanted to jump, and most people don't realize horses actually have fun jumping, so seeing him prick his ears, and get all prance because he was excited made me happy!!
WildFire the Skywing There is absolutely NO science to support the notion that horses "really want to jump". Horses find stimuli either rewarding, neutral or aversive. What part of repetitively jumping over ever heightening jumps, under pressure and being coerced with whips and spurs, would you think horses find rewarding? If you can answer me in scientific, rather than emotive terms, so much the better.
How the hell is this horse being abused? Its called free jumping, and theres nothing wrong with it. Theyre not whipping or smaking it are they. It looks like a beautiful horse that has been broken nicely with an outstanding jump. So all of you that are saying that this is animal abuse, then shutup.
Oky I've watched this vid now carefully after reading all the comments 1. this horse is not scared just excited. 2. If the horse was abused by the handlers, it will not and never will stand still for the handlers to come and catch it and most defiantly won't move towards the handlers.(I have retrained more abused horses than I can count, I know what a scared horse do and I know there is no way of teaching them how not to do it, if you don't go back to basic training and teaching the horse to trust again in you and then it goes back to the abuse story for a horse will never trust you if you abuse it.) 3. some horses jump higher with riders on their backs than this horse did while free jumping. 4. Horses jumping with riders carry a heavier load so the chances of injury is higher than a horse doing free jumping. 5. the escape routes were valid escape routes without anybody or anything stopping the horse from taking them. (really people if horse doesn't want to do something it won't do it!!!!! It will even run over a person standing with a whip if it didn't want to do it!!) 6. Horses can look were they are going with their ears backward. The ears are just a indication of mood and were the horse is consecrating. Back turned ears don't mean the horse is scared or aggressive it just means the horse is listening or concentrating on something behind him and trust me the horse can still run and move forward with back turned ears. Ears that are flat against the head is a sign of distress or just plain bad temperateness. Please people get your facts in line before you say things.
I love how much he seems to enjoy the jumping. He looks so eager to go again! Looks back at the jumps, looks at the people coming to get him, looks at the jumps, etc. Ears pricked, floating gait. Nice to see a happy athlete!
Judith Graves I'm not completely sure, but if it's anything like the horse shows i participate in, usually there's a small unofficial rule where you praise the horse once they're finished and walk out of the arena. It might be because some horses think that if you pat them, they are done working and they might try to leave the arena. Now, I don't know about what happens in this case, this is just my best guess. For my shows, we make sure to give the horses lots of praise and treats for their hard work after they are ridden. I hope that's the case for this horse.
1. Horses find patting aversive. 2. For horses to associate reward with action the action must follow the reward within a maximum of 15 seconds. 3. There is NO unofficial or official rule about rewarding behaviours, their frequency or mature, in any FEI rule book.
He is stunning. I love horses that make their jobs look easy, he certainly does. And that back kick on the top side of the jump is to die for! Horses that love their jobs are always treasures, talent is a plus ;)
Your horse has a beautiful shape in its jump. He has a nice distance as well. A thing I saw in your video that I don’t see in many free jumping shows is that your striding was perfectly accurate. Well done
No one...NO ONE (using any equipment)...can force any horse to jump this freely...softly... without the actual WILLINGNESS & cooperation of the horse. As with people... success is not based solely on a talent to do a job but has to include a joy in doing it. People who ride horses know this, and successful competition depends solely on find that 'right' horse who is HAPPY with his job. Those horses who show only talent or ability but who are not happy or willing move on to other jobs such as... Dressage... English Pleasure... Trail riding... etc. A successful horse (in any job) is a happy horse in is work which is the goal of any trainer, owner, rider. And there are not many of those involved with horses today that do not put the welfare (body & mind) of the horse as #1 priority. WE LOVE our horses. As with any sport (be it Football, Hockey, Car Racing, 3-Day Event., Horse Racing...) no sport activity is ever without some risk. But unless you KNOW the training it takes...the precautions taken... & the care involved...don't make value judgements based on ignorance. This free jump performance was beautiful, almost elegant, athletically sound... congratulations.🐴🤗🤗❤️🇺🇸
If that horse did not want to jump, he/she has at least 3 escape routes on that sort jump course. Her eyes are soft, ears forward, or flicking about in alertness. Any horseman can see that horse enjoys this little exercise.
Yes there are gaps! But oh look there's people stood there with long whips! That horse is fricken petrified, it's flinching at every sound! If u cared about horses then you would see that the horse is scared!
omg im laughing so hard^^ the horse is not scared and they arent whipping him :') you need to learn a bit more about horses hun haha look at his body language he is totally relaxed. if the horse didnt wanna jump he wouldnt. poor child.
Not really! A horse which is scared will do what them people ask as it doesn't want to get hurt! It's body language is true signs of it being scared! It's skittish and jumpy which are obvious signs which any true horseman would notice! People who don't obviously are only in the equine world to win rosettes and stuff not for the fun of working and bonding with the horse!
x NewForestieee x Sorry but the horse it's not scared here. He had a lot of escape routes to use and he didn't try to run away from it. He could even refuse the jumps if he wanted to. His body language demostrates that he is relaxed and/or concentrated!
Are you kidding me? This horse is looking for an escape. If you see the people trying to wave it on with whips then you'll understand. This is extremely unnatural for a horses legs.
3nomadic gypsies They don't jump to this extent, it's mostly just a hop over. They only jump when needs be, if there's another way around they will take it. Horses tend to live on flat terrain anyway seeing as they don't have the footing for hilly or rocky areas, so it would be rare for them to jump. Most horses do not have the strength to jump over such ridiculous heights because they don't need to. It's just humans wanting to win money and trophies by abusing an animal
3nomadic gypsies But jumping at a height such as what this horse is doing is ok? All its weight being forced onto it's front legs which is only supposed to support half weight? Because this horse would have gained a lot of momentum there would be a lot of force when it comes to landing.
Lemon Trickle Just because it's unnatural does not mean it's abusing. For example - my horse enjoys jumping - on arena, on terrain, whatever.. I don't need any whip to get her on jump, I just let her go and she'll jump almost everything. I don't need commons, just show her jump and she get her ears up, get in higher speed and jump it. You think I am abusing her? She enjoys it even if it's unnatural to carry a rider for her.
Tis a perfectly normal freestyle competion and a well presented horse, shown to professional German standards. I simply do not understand all these "knowledgable" remarks about cruelty, terrified horse, etc. Such nonsense, simply by watching this video?!
It's not hard if you take the time & make the effort to build a relationship with any animal.... same kind of thing with dogs... cats.... it's just that some people don't take the time to "get it"...😳🙄🥴
There is a lot of comments saying this is animal abuse, and actually it is not. Horses are built to jump like this, and if they do it a lot -most likely this one does- of course they can do it with no problem. Do you expect a horse to just stay in a paddock, or stall and do nothing? No, plus, if the horse didn't want to jump it probably would have stopped before the jump. You ever see people that aren't hurt, or never have been injured? It is because they don't do anything, like a sport, or activity. They probably just sit around and do nothing for the sake of not getting hurt. In my opinion, that is not fun at all. I'd rather do a sport and get hurt, then doing nothing with life. Same goes for horses, they aren't going to waist their lives in a small stall. This horse is beautiful, and incredible and probably enjoys what it does.
Exactly. Horses aren't made to be pampered and brushed in a tiny stall their whole lives. They're meant for jumping, barrel racing, reining, pulling carts, you name it. And most horses enjoy what they do. The horse I ride, she tries to head for the nearest jump every time we canter around the arena because she loves what she does. Horses enjoy getting out and doing something, not sitting around in the pasture all day.
I don't thinking all horses enjoy their jobs. i think horses like to think and like to work, but many of the sports we put them in are more a show of obedience rather than them loving it. Horses do like to exercise naturally though (not horse racing). I think your horse is so used to her job that she automatically does it. As of right now there is no way to be certain whether a horse enjoy it's work in the same way we do. Horses entertain themselves just fine with other horses in pasture; it's being stuck in a stall that is horrible. When they are not working they should be out in pasture even though they will, god forbid, get dirty.
To those who say this is horse abuse. Seriously? At least know what you are talking about before you post it on RU-vid. I've rehabilitated horses (at a horse rescue) that had both physical and mental issues. This is not horse abuse. I've had horses pin their ears back and bite when you go to touch them. As for the whip, it never actually touches the horse here. It is simply used as an extension of the arm. However it can be used incorrectly. The body language of the horse says he is happy and more than willing jump those. These jumps are not that high for a horse, yes he did click one in the video. But you occasionally trip on something when stepping/jumping over it. Now for the last thing yes it causes wear and tear on the joints after very long periods of time (years and years). But at the same time it also strengthens the bone and muscle in the process. Using repeated actions to build both. The same reason why doctors tell kids to get out and play, simply to strengthen the bones to help prevent from brittle bone diseases. Honestly this horse enjoys jumping and it looks like one of the best ways to exercise him because he loves doing it.
This sounds like a sale or a verband test. It's not a show but a demonstration of the horse's ability over fences. It's not abuse! If you think that little guy could "force" this animal to do something he doesn't want to, you're dreaming! This one can come home with me... look at that back end!!! (not the guy)
Horses either like to jump or they don't. If they don't, they absolutely WON'T! The horse did NOT almost fall after the 3rd jump on the 3rd round. A horse's head will naturally lower like that when the hindquarters are high up in order to balance itself and keep from falling. People who know nothing about horses should refrain from commenting.
My 1st day on a horse, 10 students in small ring, learning to post, I kept being yelled at to keep my horse to the outside. He kept heading to the center, and then he ran across the ring, jumped the fence, crossed the road and jumped another fence downhill around pasture. The instructor kept yelling at me to get off. Somehow I slid off, and later found that he had just been bred to the mare in the field. I can't believe to this day that I stayed on. It happened so fast.
Colleen Watson So, by that logic, whips and spurs would be totally useless because if horses only jumped when they wanted to, the coercive implements wouldn't work, no?
this boy has a future in eventing! look at that form! those floating paces! he really is quite the horse and he has a wonderful conformation. i would definitly buy him and train him if i could. i would love to see him after hes trained. mark my words, he will be a force to be reckoned with!
these people hold him back so much... why can't they release him sooner? first, they pull him to the left and when they let go, he has about one stride before the first jump
A message to all the haters: This is not animal abuse. If the horse didn't want to jump, it would simply just stop in front of the fence. Horses can jump very high without any problems. They would do it in the wild, they can do it in a show ring. Simple as that
Wow. I'm super impressed. Especially the high kick back. I doubt he'll ever take a rail with his back legs. In general his hind end has lots of flexion.
I have never seen such coments on videos of high jumping made for humans. Horses as humans are trained to do this, and as the humans, they enjoy it. Horses love jumping, run and test theirselfs, for god sake. You people complain about everything you don't understand. Please, if you do not know horses, if you see a horse jumping and you scream out, you probably need to get out of your homes and and get closer to animals and nature, because you are loosing the natural way to watch things.
anuchons I agree! This is less 'abuse' and easier for the horses that showjumping ect !! No one goes on an Olympic show jumping video yelling "THATS ABUSE!" despite the fact that showjumping is harder for the horse than free jumping -_-
anuchons Don't compare horses to humans. If it wasn't for the fence the horse would do its natural thing and go around the obstacles. It's not abuse but don't just try to paint it to be "totally natural" - there's always a line, and extreme sports with animals often cross it. Sadly.
+Rimfaxe96 indeed....if it were truly ''free choice'' jumping, why the fenced in barrier to stop him running out? But prefer to see this than with a rider .
***** Some horses will do smaller jumps "for the lulz", but that still doesn't make it natural behavior. Many people even have trouble getting young horses to jump a single cavaletti.
Reading all the comments about how this is horse abuse makes me laugh, they obviously don't understand horse body language. I don't see any tail cranking, ear pinning, or the horse refusing... As long as the horse is warmed up, and cooled out well and this isn't done on a daily basis, it will cause no problems. There are grand Prix jumpers and horses at Rolex who are 19years old, this isn't going to "ruin" the horse. I wish people could just accept the video for what it is, it's a gorgeous horse with an incredibly beautiful and scopey jump!
What is it with all these ABUSE comments? I mean really, if you want to comment, just know something about the sport! That horse looks relaxed as hell he LOVES jumping them and, at 2:39 he tried to go back for more!
@@teddybear5788 did you train them from backing them? Do you know what the previous owners/breeders did to them when they were babies (if there was a previous owner)?
@@teddybear5788 and if what you say is true, then that is down to training, your training, if you don't train the horse to calm tf down and listen, then they will continue with these incredibly bad habits
These are test of athletic ability for registration and have scores that can be compared for breeding. There are many other tests, including conformation that list them as "approved". I think it's very good and wish we did this in the states.
this ain't abuse.free jumping has been around for ages.every horse has a mind of its own and if this horse didn't want to jump he wouldn't.but horses love nothing more than to roam freely over a jump.
Could be jumping outbof obedience and loyalty, a lot of animals do that. Though I gotta say, this horse does look like he enjoys it. And having a bit and flash aren't exactly needed...also, I can think of a lot of thongs most horses would enjoy more
My Pony jumped over a hedge that was bigger than him (shetland crossbreed) when he was 2. And he never jumped anything before, since he was too young back then. Today he's nearly 5 and even though I let him jump sometimes, he never tried the fencing again. I guess he figuered out that it's easier to just stay on the ground when there's no human around to make him jump xD
Horses are herd animals, if their buddies are in one pasture, they'll likely stay in that one. However, even if a horse isn't trained to jump professionally, you'll still have horses jumping the fences for fun.
Wonderful way of showing the athletics of the horse for passing this ability on for breeding purposes (I believe that's the purpose). Makes good sense and these horses are doing this freely..they're not even on a lead rope over this. Nice.
Leslie Baptist Mein Güte wann lernt ihr endlich dass ein nicht zu eng verschnallter Sperriemen nicht schlimm ist? Außerdem gehört er dazu bei solchen Anlässen da kann man nunmal nicht mit Knotenhalfter aufkreuzen. Und zugeschnürt werden sie ihn wohl nicht haben bringt ihnen ja nichts Zügel sind keine dran
Jumping a horse isn't cruel. If they didn't want to jump they wouldn't. And I don't think a little whip would change that. No one is forcing this horse
I'm sorry but you're ignorant. Giving the whole 'the horse wouldn't jump if it didn't want to' excuse. Lets put this in context. The horse is in a show, the type of show that looks professional and only the, ahem, 'talented' horses are allowed to compete in. This may mean the humans also win a ton of money or high quality ribbons. So what do you expect of the trainers? For them to train their horses intensively to the peak of their capability. This could mean starting early when the horses legs are still developing, making them jump 50 times a day. How many legs does a horse have? 4 legs. WHY do they have 4 legs? To even out their weight, so each leg can support 25% of a horses weight. Now look at this jump. The horse lands basically vertical on its two front legs. That's 100% of its weight being forced down on 2 legs that are only supposed to be supporting 50% of the horses weight. Say a human did the same jumping over a high jump and landing on one leg, it would fucking hurt and most likely cause joint problems if done often. If the whips didn't encourage the horse then they why do they have them? Not only one but two. Of course the horse is going to react to a whip being whacked on its ass because its a flight animal with extremely sensitive sensory neurons, a horse can feel a fly land on their back. This horse has most likely been conditioned to jump by humans operant and classically, because that's how horses learn. This horse has probably learnt that if it doesn't jump, it will most likely get a whack on the ass by them whips. The horse is also showing signs of escape and nervousness due to the flinching and the confused looks. This horse is not doing this for fun, its the humans who are doing it for fun and using their horse for money and ribbons because that is the sadness of the equestrian world nowadays.
Lemon Trickle I agree for the most part, but horses are strong powerful animals, and if that horse didn't want to jump, he would kick and run. And this show looks as professional as any other, there all supposed to look like this, and different country's have different styles. If there was abuse going on here, it would be noticeable, and people would stop it.
People saying that it is animal abuse, and that the horse shouldn't have a bit, The horse is wearing a bridle with the reins taken off And what part of this video is abuse?? If the horse didn't want to jump it wouldn't!
Horses are obedient to their leaders so using the word "want" is a little controversial. They are herd animals that live in a hierarchy. I also do not see why the horse would need a bit for this. Maybe it was for looks.
I've only seen this used to evaluate non-jumpers for the jumper ring (youngsters or off the track horses) and for breed inspections. I didn't know that they actually just had competitions too. Interesting. I bought my grand prix jumper off the track this way. Couldn't run to save his life and no one wanted to risk their life getting on him when we went to see him but boy could he jump.
Just how is this abuse ? This horse is obviously well cared for, healthy & fit. He is bred to jump & clearly he can easily jump much higher than the jump. The horse is not being pushed to his physical linitations...& isnt even tired. Explain what part of this video is abuse. *TROLLS* you have nothing better to do w/ur time.
These horses have been bred, trained & physically conditioned by professionals for years. The likely hood of one dropping dead of heart attack would be a very rare occurence. The competitions like this r held to ensure that a high quality of breed standard is maintained. Faults r penalized & therefore low scoring horses r not breeding material. Such horses as in this video most likely had "many" physical examinations by a vet @ various points in their lives for health & competition reasons. To travel to competition they need a clean bill of health certificate. In addition Horses have a huge capacity for endurance naturally built w/incredibly strong heart & lungs capacity that can endure galloping & jumping @ various speeds for miles. Its rare that a horse is born w/heart or lung problems. If a horse had a noticeable heart problem the trainer would notice @ some point. If a foal was born w/a heart or lung problem it wouldn't grow, play, eat & thrive like normal babies. If a horse had an undetectable heart condition...then yes it could die under strenuous activity. This would b a very rare occassion to happen in horses... even more rare an occurence than a person in professional sport having a fatal heart problem while competing. If a horse had a problem...It could have a fatal heart issue as easily (in competition as running around playn in a field) @home. I've competed & been to event like this all my life & nvr saw a horse die of a heart condition.
I'm not sure how this is abusive either. If anything, this is way more humane than many horse sports. I just hope the horse doesn't just live in a stall though. That is true cruelty to me. Horses, no matter what breed, need to spend most of their time in pasture when they aren't working.
I watched many videos of Klaus Hempfling establishing rapport with all sorts of horses with challenging behavior. He always held the lead with an open hand and the lead always drooped - it was never tight. And the horses he worked with followed willingly - even rested their heads against his! Seeing the short lead and utter disrespect these handlers have when working with this horse is quite a shock. There is a better way!
This is something totally different compared to someone leading a horse on a loose lead. This short lead is just for safety. They need to be able to release the horse quick without risking any entanglement. It has nothing to do with disrespect. When the horse enters the arena, a full lenght lead (possibly reins) is on.
Yellow are saying 'she's jolting the lead' it's only because the horse might be going to fast or it might run over her, she's only doing it to slow him down. Yes I understand i will hurt if she jolts it hard but it didn't look like it she was only telling him too go steadier. Its only my opinion in what I see
