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French anger after AUKUS deal ‘not simply about the submarines’ 

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The French government’s anger after the scrapping of a multi-billion dollar order for French submarines is “not simply about the submarines”, according to François Heisbourg, Special Advisor at the Foundation for Strategic Research.
France has recalled its ambassadors from both the United States and Australia after the AUKUS trilateral partnership and subsequent new nuclear submarine deal was announced, in a decision that was slammed by French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian as “duplicity, a major breach of trust and contempt”.
French Ambassador to Australia Jean-Pierre Thebault branded the move a “huge” diplomatic mistake, noting the French submarine deal was more than just a contract, but a partnership.
Mr Heisbourg said the anger from French officials is “about this extraordinary situation, in which three allies decided that a fourth ally would not be drawn into their confidence in terms of tightening alliance relations.
“We are facing the same challenge from China, we are facing the same problems in the South Pacific,” Mr Heisbourg told Sky News host Sharri Markson.
“We have been talking - between France and Australia - for more than a decade in the framework of extraordinarily intimate strategic dialogue.
“The sense of betrayal … this is what explains the French anger above and beyond the submarines.”

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Комментарии : 3,9 тыс.   
@michaelwhitton4526
@michaelwhitton4526 3 года назад
If you deal with the French you deal with the EU that's the problem
@georgew5038
@georgew5038 3 года назад
US doesn't need the french they are all snobs and only have 2 subs anyway so bye go eat some baguettes and bike around the park in your beret. French will never be a strong military country because they are too feminine
@robertadams2857
@robertadams2857 3 года назад
I believe you are correct.
@tomx641
@tomx641 3 года назад
The EU has numerous leaders, nobody is really in charge. That doesn't include nation state leaders, just within the EU institution.
@tomx641
@tomx641 3 года назад
@@Rainonasphalt The EU leaps from crisis to crisis
@nihilistlivesmatter
@nihilistlivesmatter 3 года назад
@sampaix No deal by an EU state can be independent of the EU
@mad8585
@mad8585 3 года назад
Can see the French on the parapet yelling “your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries” in an angry voice.
@tokenjoy
@tokenjoy 3 года назад
Oui, and I fart in your general direction!
@adrian4276
@adrian4276 3 года назад
we better go away before they taunt us again...
@bidenisapieceofshit6234
@bidenisapieceofshit6234 3 года назад
Now , go away , or I shall taunt you a second time.
@bidenisapieceofshit6234
@bidenisapieceofshit6234 3 года назад
Now I have to watch it , damn you...🤣🤣🤣
@peskycitizen7582
@peskycitizen7582 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@worldofameiso5491
@worldofameiso5491 3 года назад
That’s rich, he calls the Aususuk alliance a cabal, what does he think the EU is?
@dejanangelovski7941
@dejanangelovski7941 3 года назад
the same my bro- NATO-ILUMINATY-CABAL-MASONS-ARISTROCRATS-THE RULERS-AGAINST PPL OW THE WORLD THATS IT !!! Peace.
@Spacebadger
@Spacebadger 3 года назад
The biggest undemocratic corrupt organisation on the planet even worse than the ccp!
@TheHateCorp
@TheHateCorp 3 года назад
@@Spacebadger That's fucking rich, coming from two monarchies and one republic.
@jugbywellington1134
@jugbywellington1134 3 года назад
The EU is the continuation of the Third Reich. He's just obeying Mad Angela's orders, the poor dear.
@TheHateCorp
@TheHateCorp 3 года назад
@Richard Donnell I don't think "mentalist" means what you seem to think it does, in formal English. As for a monarchy being a "true democracy", or a Republic (which at MOST has REPRESENTATIVE democracy) for that matter, you must have gotten dropped on the head as a child to be dumb enough to state that in public discourse.
@KIA-MIA-POW
@KIA-MIA-POW 3 года назад
The French appear to have short memories, especially when it comes to their atomic tests in the Pacific when they completely ignored the protests of Pacific nations
@beatnews275
@beatnews275 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H0UtfZMQFCU.html.m
@dreamygates2965
@dreamygates2965 3 года назад
australia should be ashamed of themselves. i would be furious if i was the french. turnbull and his coalition party was the one who asked for dud diesel engines inside the submarines. the french initially wanted to sell australia their nuclear powered one, so they took a lot of effort to redesign and modified & took out the nuclear reactor and put in a dud diesel engine just as the aussies ordered. scomo then scrap the whole thing with gods knows how much time and money was spent
@hkfoo3333
@hkfoo3333 3 года назад
thats a different matter. we ate talking about nuke giving to non nuclear countries
@beatnews275
@beatnews275 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H0UtfZMQFCU.html🤣🤣
@askmeanything1365
@askmeanything1365 3 года назад
*You all should of ordered from : Jersey Mike's Subs.*
@davidadams5116
@davidadams5116 3 года назад
This is great. I’m from the UK and anything that upsets France is absolutely wonderful
@finny4543
@finny4543 3 года назад
Indeed it’s great for the world to see once again, the UK is bending over for USA 😆
@mariacarter6954
@mariacarter6954 3 года назад
Careful A french company owns some of UK water😕
@dreamygates2965
@dreamygates2965 3 года назад
and australia should be ashamed of themselves. i would be furious if i was the french. turnbull and his coalition party was the one who asked for dud diesel engines inside the submarines. the french initially wanted to sell australia their nuclear powered one, so they took a lot of effort to redesign and modified & took out the nuclear reactor and put in a dud diesel engine just as the aussies ordered. scomo then scrap the whole thing with gods knows how much time and money was spent
@feikotemme8736
@feikotemme8736 3 года назад
david adams LOL😅👌 I couldn't agree with you more😆
@outofchrisworld1570
@outofchrisworld1570 3 года назад
Australian is U.K. interest
@jamesgarlick4573
@jamesgarlick4573 3 года назад
Let the French join AUKUS, that way we can call it FAUKUS lol
@KumaBean
@KumaBean 3 года назад
🤣👌
@happygreat3966
@happygreat3966 3 года назад
Just good to hear serious issues on the news and not stories about men wearing dresses
@MultiChrisjb
@MultiChrisjb 3 года назад
Wait there was a man wearing a dress? When?
@DoonSiddiqueFCPS
@DoonSiddiqueFCPS 3 года назад
@@MultiChrisjb he is talking about his mom.
@lordsirob8640
@lordsirob8640 3 года назад
... or skirts! Scots and Kiwis. AUKUS Forever. Bring it on.
@varanid9
@varanid9 3 года назад
Give them time. Eventually, we'll see some "brave and stunning" diplomat making an utter freak of himself at some important summit meeting.
@The_Gallowglass
@The_Gallowglass 3 года назад
@@lordsirob8640 Men dinny wear skirts.
@Ausshops
@Ausshops 3 года назад
France needs to remember this is Australia's money.
@annebuckley3641
@annebuckley3641 3 года назад
And Australia needs to remember basic common courtesy when switching up their strategic analysis.
@Ausshops
@Ausshops 3 года назад
@@annebuckley3641 and France needs to remember it’s Australian Tax payers money.
@arthurh5707
@arthurh5707 3 года назад
A very salient point.
@rocketman702
@rocketman702 3 года назад
Money? Pay attention……….
@craighingston4638
@craighingston4638 3 года назад
@Genghis Khan we are slaves to no one asshole
@GBManGentle
@GBManGentle 3 года назад
I laugh every time this story pops up I can picture macron spiting his dummies out
@Mr.Ekshin
@Mr.Ekshin 3 года назад
I mean... who the hell decided, "Hey, we should buy our military equipment from France"?!? Did these sube come equipped with wine racks, cheese slicers, and white flags?
@johnwhite5374
@johnwhite5374 3 года назад
Straight into his double mask
@sausagefingers714
@sausagefingers714 3 года назад
@@Mr.Ekshin so France, does the sub come with nuclear weapon's?. NOPE, something ever better than nuclear weapons Mr, a pop up white flag that will auto deploy when an enemy comes within 15 miles, its much better for the environment
@miacat1727
@miacat1727 3 года назад
France is no worse than the UK, US & Australia, this is intended to maintain US super power & no peace or stability will come from this aliance.
@thomaspollocknageoire4206
@thomaspollocknageoire4206 3 года назад
@@miacat1727 Exact !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@bgg4865
@bgg4865 3 года назад
I think it more likely the UK and US didn't want to involve an EU country, especially as the EU are now talking seriously about having their own standing army.
@trevaudio
@trevaudio 3 года назад
The UK 😂😂😂😂😂
@davidpowell6098
@davidpowell6098 3 года назад
This scumbaggery smells like Johnsons doing, he acts like a spoiled brat normally.
@frl8031
@frl8031 3 года назад
^^this is the real reason.
@jaziejay1
@jaziejay1 3 года назад
Yep White flags come on french boats and you never know if they will turn up
@mksensej8701
@mksensej8701 3 года назад
@@davidpowell6098 With the help of Farage who wants to turn to Anglo sphere only . We will see how this work as already Australian wants to buy some old Nuclear submarines. Possible because they already start to leak radiation.
@mcitours1302
@mcitours1302 3 года назад
Desert Storm - Norman Schwarzkopf: "Going to war without France is like going hunting without an accordion player"
@ihategermancars3862
@ihategermancars3862 3 года назад
Like it!
@paperinik69
@paperinik69 3 года назад
Well we have seen how the powerful Americans won the wars in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, running away like cowards and leaving their allies at the mercy of the enemy
@pauljohnson1664
@pauljohnson1664 3 года назад
@@paperinik69 Yes but that why the rest of the Anglosphere is here. We have one another's backs.
@Ganymede559
@Ganymede559 3 года назад
@@LinusWelt You said that in like 2016. The only thing that's gotten weaker is the EU.
@pauljohnson1664
@pauljohnson1664 3 года назад
@@LinusWelt Eventually we will fall. All civilisation do. But not just yet.
@floydbraido2426
@floydbraido2426 3 года назад
Biden's motto: If it ain't broken, break it. 😣😣😣
@sdhillon7617
@sdhillon7617 3 года назад
How? So you think this trade deal is not good for America or is it that you don't want to give Biden any credit so your (POSSIBLE) mate Trump can get into power gain.
@stevewilkinson5968
@stevewilkinson5968 3 года назад
Biden doesn’t Have the best interest of the USA at heart he has the interest of Hunter Biden and the “big fellow” ie totally focused on the Biden dynasty
@sdhillon7617
@sdhillon7617 3 года назад
@@stevewilkinson5968 and Trump did Trump was all about himself.
@carpetsnake83
@carpetsnake83 3 года назад
Get macron out and Le pen in and watch these “problems” evaporate
@raphaelfalque683
@raphaelfalque683 3 года назад
Let French people decide on who they want to elect. Besides, Le Pen would have had the same words regarding the lack of communication from Australia on the topic
@carpetsnake83
@carpetsnake83 3 года назад
@@raphaelfalque683 they do get to decided people from other countries having an opinion on the internet isn’t a vote ballot
@carpetsnake83
@carpetsnake83 3 года назад
@@raphaelfalque683 not necessarily because she might have moved you out of the eu by now
@peasantsarerevolting9343
@peasantsarerevolting9343 3 года назад
I disagree, the french have been genetically engineered to whine about anything.
@henry9406
@henry9406 3 года назад
@@peasantsarerevolting9343 ….they love a good riot to 👍 but they never seem to achieve anything
@louminarty
@louminarty 3 года назад
Show of hands from people who care what France thinks🥱
@mariacarter6954
@mariacarter6954 3 года назад
Who want substandard 😉 very expensive products😕 Macron is insane and just like a toddler his tantrums are oh so common to us here in UK
@Plexcom60
@Plexcom60 3 года назад
Hey Francay........🖕
@alimohammad1934
@alimohammad1934 3 года назад
You never realize that France is a part of a wolf pack which is EU. They will side their own, we will just see if the pack decide to sanction Australia though, or they will be cooled down.
@mksensej8701
@mksensej8701 3 года назад
@@alimohammad1934 After China we just made it worst.
@nihilistlivesmatter
@nihilistlivesmatter 3 года назад
@@alimohammad1934 EU can't afford to sanction anyone, now the UK has left it only leaves France & Germany to bankroll the 'EU welfare' states
@MrColin1995
@MrColin1995 3 года назад
It’s called competition something the EU knows nothing about lol
@thomaspollocknageoire4206
@thomaspollocknageoire4206 3 года назад
Tu dois être un sacré con, toi, monsieur Collin !!!!
@andrewhutchinson4228
@andrewhutchinson4228 3 года назад
Even worse than that! Supplier decides to change remit entirely."We've decided to give you a diesal/electric sub out of the original nuclear powered sub and charge you at nuclear pricing!!! Unbelievable arrogance and bizarre business practice!. This guy referred to the UK being 'stuck' with our present system for the next 10 years or so. The French wouldn't have supplied their old fashionef subs until the late 2030's.
@andrewhutchinson4228
@andrewhutchinson4228 3 года назад
@@thomaspollocknageoire4206 they called you Pollock? They knew what was coming....
@andrewhutchinson4228
@andrewhutchinson4228 3 года назад
@@thomaspollocknageoire4206 they called you Pollock? They knew what was coming....
@foraustralia2558
@foraustralia2558 3 года назад
Foolish. they are amount the most competitive in the world...hence the UK crying even after they left....
@Iroc_199
@Iroc_199 3 года назад
Remember when marcon got slapped in THE FACE!!! HAHAHA
@MrGuez37
@MrGuez37 3 года назад
this time he got it in the toush
@lunafringe10
@lunafringe10 3 года назад
And Trump brushed Dandruff off Macrons suit,
@cindydavis2060
@cindydavis2060 3 года назад
French subs...seriously?? If they are built to the same stands as their cars you wouldn't go in one
@r2dxhate
@r2dxhate 3 года назад
Exactly what I was thinking.
@willmont8258
@willmont8258 3 года назад
"Le Car"! One of the worst autos ever imported to America. Australia doesn't need "Le Sub"!
@genharoldj.greene9379
@genharoldj.greene9379 3 года назад
Hello beautiful
@chrisj7098
@chrisj7098 3 года назад
I heard that French submarines can broadcast their surrender in any language automatically and all come with a white flag attached to the presiscope
@gordiebrooks
@gordiebrooks 3 года назад
🤣🤣 at the first signs of Germany too 🤣🤣
@shivas3003
@shivas3003 3 года назад
We're going to laugh so hard when sydney will be under 15 meters of totally vitrified sand
@foraustralia2558
@foraustralia2558 3 года назад
Would that be the same French across the channel when the British Expeditionary Force ran back the the UK rather than stand & fight .. History tough but thats what happened ...
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 3 года назад
@@shivas3003 I have two words to say to you "Flamanville Reactor".
@shivas3003
@shivas3003 3 года назад
@@gordonlawrence1448 yeah the prototype
@Peter-je6td
@Peter-je6td 3 года назад
France was left out as they have to ask their overlords in the EU to do anything
@ut000bs
@ut000bs 3 года назад
That is actually part of it.
@rorykeegan1895
@rorykeegan1895 3 года назад
Great grip on EU functions you have there.
@jeffreywright4656
@jeffreywright4656 3 года назад
Couldn't wait 5 years for all 27 to reply.
@mpd8633
@mpd8633 3 года назад
Good point. Just see how the Europeans dragged their feet when Trump tried to get them to dump Huawei's 5G.
@stuartjones2812
@stuartjones2812 3 года назад
Exactly. Also Macaron is a low IQ disaster for France
@peterpan1435
@peterpan1435 3 года назад
No it’s not just about submarines it’s about the vindictiveness shown by EU member countries - France in particular- towards Brexit Britain.
@malcolmrowe5031
@malcolmrowe5031 3 года назад
Don't forget they screwed us over before they allowed us to Join!
@cateye70
@cateye70 3 года назад
That is why we left the EU they are small minded give it a few years they will all be gone.
@gagsdoublej4254
@gagsdoublej4254 3 года назад
Excuse me Sir/Madam Are you saved? If you died tonight are you going to heaven? Watch Sid Roth’s on RU-vid
@trevaudio
@trevaudio 3 года назад
What vindictiveness ? The EU were ready for Brexit, the brits weren’t….simple !
@goldengun9970
@goldengun9970 3 года назад
No it isn't. It is about deepening further ties with usa and getting their subs
@tjger0164
@tjger0164 3 года назад
Amazing, how France was cheering the election of President Biden.
@vidpie
@vidpie 3 года назад
Not really given the former guy distanced us from France and our other NATO allies--Russia's foes.
@rhino3330
@rhino3330 3 года назад
I'm french and I know a few people who supported Trump, as I did.
@tjger0164
@tjger0164 3 года назад
@@rhino3330 The question now is can the world including France resist the madness and maybe see the Trump return. 2022's mid term is the key. Stay safe :)
@simwilliams5358
@simwilliams5358 3 года назад
@@vidpie he wanted NATO to pay there fair share
@waza987
@waza987 3 года назад
Isn’t it obvious why the French were left out. Who would take it seriously if the acronym was FAUKUS?
@13thdukeofwybourne69
@13thdukeofwybourne69 3 года назад
As far as the French are concerned, it _probably_ doesn't help that one of the upcoming Astute class boats is to be called "HMS Agincourt".........
@samsoteriou6137
@samsoteriou6137 3 года назад
LMFAO good one mate
@danboyd2725
@danboyd2725 3 года назад
😅👍
@arizonajo2791
@arizonajo2791 3 года назад
Lmao!
@DCM8828
@DCM8828 3 года назад
Hmmmmmm... I see what you mean....
@offclan2141
@offclan2141 3 года назад
Tell the French PM to work on his country that’s falling apart and not to worry about some stupid submarines
@unknowniam121
@unknowniam121 3 года назад
Agree.
@kainoctis7724
@kainoctis7724 3 года назад
It's called misdirection, something Argentina did with Falkland war. Look what's happening in my left hand, not my right.
@cnordegren
@cnordegren 3 года назад
If this pisses the French off then the Aussies must have done something correct.
@MrJiwer
@MrJiwer 3 года назад
@@mm7963 Yeah, 'member Irak, when you really pissed us of by going against any coallition? Did you do things correct then? You dont realize you have defacto authorized every body to sell eachother nuclear subs... now who has a lot of nuclear tech ready to sell? And who has a lot of idling money? Which treaty prevent that from happening? Please try to connect the dots guys and try and think of something else than WW2 for a change. You sound like a decadent empire reminiscent of old glories, this is scary...
@MrJiwer
@MrJiwer 3 года назад
@@mm7963 So... not adressing any of those points? Cheap shots all you got? truly hope those subs fix it for you. No one likes CCP, you know. It is just dumb to give them a way to buy nuclear fuel and tech as they want. But okay, my person does not matter, if you really need an Australian voice to hear it from, take it from you own Nobel peace prize winner Gem Romuld.
@RB-mr6cr
@RB-mr6cr 3 года назад
Who cares what the France thinks, Australia have to look after ourselves first.
@eleveneleven572
@eleveneleven572 3 года назад
The french came to Australia's aid in WW2... Then they fought bravely in Vietnam to avoid Australia being sucked in.... ...oh, hang on.
@trevaudio
@trevaudio 3 года назад
But you can’t look after yourselves, that’s why you need the US !!
@bielsaball8443
@bielsaball8443 3 года назад
The French surrendered about 35seconds in to the war. UK US Australia liberating France knuckle head.
@icitlalistardust9060
@icitlalistardust9060 3 года назад
Start building your own military industrial complex then…. instead of let other to spend for R&D
@lynette1228
@lynette1228 3 года назад
@@eleveneleven572 no that did not australia went to France aid
@jamesherold8655
@jamesherold8655 3 года назад
What an embarassment when they want to reinstate their embassy and Austrlia tell them to do one
@vesavius
@vesavius 3 года назад
I love the idea of a united anglo sphere alliance.
@foraustralia2558
@foraustralia2558 3 года назад
You are WEAK France lost more men fighting in WW2 than Britain & more than America & Britain put together..in WW1
@koolaak2926
@koolaak2926 3 года назад
Right, so the US can fight to the last Briton and to the last Aussie. We been screwed.
@geoeconomics5629
@geoeconomics5629 3 года назад
AUKUS alliance but why : here is why It is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America - Zbignew Brzezinski (Nicholas J Spykman)
@goldfish2379
@goldfish2379 3 года назад
@@foraustralia2558 You spell like a German.
@goldfish2379
@goldfish2379 3 года назад
@@koolaak2926 No, you're being defended. China wants to invade Australia - not the UK or America.
@BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHX7
@BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHX7 3 года назад
China has forced Austrailia's hand. She needs allies who will come to her defense no matter what, and that's the US and the UK.
@oceandweller2314
@oceandweller2314 3 года назад
forced Australia's hand? By what? their local skirmish over territories in theur region, WTF has that got to do with Australia.
@dave-d-grunt
@dave-d-grunt 3 года назад
And, with in a reasonable amount of time!
@ditherdather
@ditherdather 3 года назад
Under Biden I wouldn't count on America going to bat for anyone, not even itself. We left thousands of our own people in a country that's ran by people who hate us, and then told the government where they could find our people. You really think America is gonna buddy up with anyone?
@MrRinoHunter
@MrRinoHunter 3 года назад
@@oceandweller2314 Being stupid and ignorant is no way to live.
@trevaudio
@trevaudio 3 года назад
WTF is Australia going to do, or the uk against China ?😂😂😂😂
@henrylawson430
@henrylawson430 3 года назад
If you break contract but meet the escape clause obligations you have stilled honoured the contract. That’s life, that’s business. Move on.
@markcarli8259
@markcarli8259 3 года назад
And a good escape it was. Comments from "The Fixer"?
@norsefalconer
@norsefalconer 3 года назад
Being handled in a "grown up" manner requires that Grown Ups be involved. THAT is so rare in politics as to be non-existent.
@FlamesOfThought
@FlamesOfThought 3 года назад
Hasn't happened with French politician's for a very long time
@another1498
@another1498 3 года назад
I seem to remember the French selling exocets to Argentina
@shivas3003
@shivas3003 3 года назад
I seem to remember the Quasi-war ;)
@sirderam1
@sirderam1 3 года назад
@@shivas3003 Where is Quasi?
@shivas3003
@shivas3003 3 года назад
@@sirderam1 are you serious ?
@shivas3003
@shivas3003 3 года назад
@@sirderam1 why all my comments are deleted ? i just say to google it .... omg wtf
@LeChasseur666
@LeChasseur666 3 года назад
@@sirderam1 lol quasi isn't a country
@keith6400
@keith6400 3 года назад
And when France gets invaded traditionally it is UK, US and others including Australia that sort them out.
@chemcom276
@chemcom276 3 года назад
Yorktown battle celebration, a great french victory.
@steveoc64
@steveoc64 3 года назад
Actually - if you do the numbers, when France gets invaded "traditionally" it is far more likely to be from the UK, or a coalition led by the UK. You have the entire Napoleonic Wars ... the 7 Years War ... the 9 Years War ... the 100 Years War, etc etc. Its a pretty long history of conflict.
@steveoc64
@steveoc64 3 года назад
@Andy Man lol, thats an interesting take on history to say the least. With the Napoleonic Wars - from the start, you have at least 5 separate wars that start and stop - 1st - 5th Coalition, where everyone gangs up on France and attacks with the aim of "Regime Change". Pretty much in every case, the combined "rest of the world" gets their ass handed to them in spectacular fashion, with the French winning that war. Especially once Napoleon takes command of the field armies - the level of victories defy all understanding, even today. That only takes us up to 1809 .. by which stage every monarchy on the European mainland had been humilated beyond repair. Similar with the 9 years war - the "Grand Alliance" of pretty much every country in the world vs France. French Victory. 7 Years war is a different issue - nobody really "won" or "lost" that, just lots of change, and the birth of modern Prussia. 100 years war ... err, that was a French win too. Sounds like some common core history books you been reading there bud
@GameSpyDarkAge
@GameSpyDarkAge 3 года назад
So they're crying we're taking our business elsewhere, while they laugh at us shipping their migrants over in dingys.. hmm 🤔
@jamesgarlick4573
@jamesgarlick4573 3 года назад
Didn't the French submarine deal face various drawbacks, delays and cost increases? I honestly don't blame the Aussies looking elsewhere for nuclear subs.
@rambogaming230
@rambogaming230 3 года назад
@@jamesgarlick4573 yes namely the time, the constatnt change of costs with the deal starting at 25 billion and proce changing 4 times till it reached 90 billion with first sub arriving in 15 years and the last in 30, for subs that are underclassed and quite frankly outdated and useless
@druisteen
@druisteen 3 года назад
@@jamesgarlick4573 Trust me ...this is the same in all submarine program ! You could built a " cheap submarine " by today standard .....
@Dan-re7go
@Dan-re7go 3 года назад
France, call us when you need to be defended for a third time. No sweat.
@jamesgreen807
@jamesgreen807 3 года назад
Don't call us WE MIGHT CALL YOU !!!
@vocexseta
@vocexseta 3 года назад
Don't call us. Our taxes don't need taken and our boys don't need to spill their blood again. Handle your own shet.
@jamesgreen807
@jamesgreen807 3 года назад
@@vocexseta TOO RIGHT!
@Bignfluffy
@Bignfluffy 3 года назад
@@vocexseta we dont need the french at all lmaoo who does?
@kaimalino528
@kaimalino528 3 года назад
And you know they are going to come. They did so before.
@daleanderin1
@daleanderin1 3 года назад
Just like the AUKUS deal was not only about submarines.
@pteamg
@pteamg 3 года назад
Agree, it's about sending the Chinese a clear message of what is to come and how serious we take there threats
@coling3957
@coling3957 3 года назад
France is whining now. in 1966 they pulled out of NATO without warning. complaining it was an Anglo-American controlled club... when USA, UK and Canada were the major forces within it. France had lost its war in Indo-China and lost north Africa too.. France only ever does what it best for her. they don't care about partners, or moral issues.
@ssuwandi3240
@ssuwandi3240 3 года назад
@Genghis Khan ChiCom got so addicted to compete.. just get in line like civilized people behave!
@ssuwandi3240
@ssuwandi3240 3 года назад
@Genghis Khan your culture is the problem..you got to fight just to get in a cab!! Nauseating AF!
@SVW1976
@SVW1976 3 года назад
@Genghis Khan Paper Tiger. Your whole country is built on a lie.
@cynicaltigeruk4546
@cynicaltigeruk4546 3 года назад
Who wants a submarine that goes faster in reverse anyway.
@Michael1964
@Michael1964 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@op2352
@op2352 3 года назад
🤣🤣
@Derzull2468
@Derzull2468 3 года назад
At least the French have a reverse and don't just abandon their military equipment freely to the Taliban and drone strike whole families then apologize with "sorry we thought it was ISIS-K" like the US. And they don't send people to jail over tweets while ignoring acid and knife attacks like the UK ("part and parcel").
@michaelcorbidge7914
@michaelcorbidge7914 3 года назад
Hold on a spell . It doesn't look. promising for Australian sailors to be trained by the US . All that the troops they've trained in Afghanistan Iraq Vietnam have ever done is to just run from the enemy , I'm still trying to work it out .
@Michael1964
@Michael1964 3 года назад
​@@Derzull2468 I think you meant "at most the French have a reverse gear" however, that said m8; everything else in your comment was entirely true. Michael1964
@davidconroy8547
@davidconroy8547 3 года назад
This deal was a stinking deal from the word go. The deal was a joke. To add insult to injury. The cost nearly doubled yet no production had started. It would of been a bigger blow if there was a demand to stop halfway through a build. But nothing had started case closed.
@thertis580
@thertis580 3 года назад
Bloody right too! 😎🇬🇧
@fredsmith1813
@fredsmith1813 3 года назад
Yeah the US "deal" is going to be a real "beauty" for the US . Like the Fighter "deal" with the US . Billions upon Billions of Australian hard earned taxpayers handed over for junk . Its more like paying the Mafia Don protection money , but some local players also get a cut of the action , that we the taxpayer are forced to pay. Australia is now tied to the declining US
@s.a.2317
@s.a.2317 3 года назад
As an American I can tell you we overrun costs on our military contracts all the time.
@thegeneralist7527
@thegeneralist7527 3 года назад
@Genghis Khan Lol! Try petting it. See how long your hand is attached to your arm.
@johnmurphy9550
@johnmurphy9550 3 года назад
@sampaix Idiot. The French are incapable of delivering the first sub until 2035, some 20 years after the deal was struck. The delivery schedule went out another 15 years after that, to 2050 & that's assuming they got on the already rescheduled contract . Clearly the French can't build the subs, so your comment has zero value
@DCUK90
@DCUK90 3 года назад
HAR HAR!! From a Brit 🇬🇧 🇦🇺
@DCUK90
@DCUK90 3 года назад
@Max Mustermann hell no
@ezioauditore3128
@ezioauditore3128 3 года назад
@Max Mustermann The UK Parliment sanctioned Biden on Afghanistan - the only nation to do so. Did you miss that?
@MBBurchette
@MBBurchette 3 года назад
France acting “French” should not have been a surprise to anyone. It’s actually comforting in it’s way. But they only rejoined NATO in ‘09. Australia, the UK, and the US have consistently had each other’s backs for 80+ years. Trust is earned.
@varanid9
@varanid9 3 года назад
Well, with Biden at the helm, you might need to exclude the US from that triumvirate after the sneaky way we fled Afghanistan without informing our allies.
@DJ-yj1vg
@DJ-yj1vg 3 года назад
precisely.
@dirtbikerman1000
@dirtbikerman1000 3 года назад
We upset the French government! Thats great news to me an English man. Look how macron spat his dummy out at the beginning of the year over brexit.
@ronaldtinson8278
@ronaldtinson8278 3 года назад
Macron fight for his political life, it must be really hurting him that the UK is valued more by the US & Australia. France Should look at the EU who are out of favour with the USA & the UK
@dirtbikerman1000
@dirtbikerman1000 3 года назад
@@ronaldtinson8278 I agree mate...I thought brexit was going to make us fall off a cliff edge though haha 😄
@pom999
@pom999 3 года назад
@@dirtbikerman1000 if it happens, at least, it will be your choice. A stupid one, OK ... but yours. Nobody pushed you. Maybe you made a good choice, maybe you destroyed your children's future. Who knows ? I'm french. I could say : ''you want to go, good riddance''. But I have english friends, and they're sad for their country, so who am I to despise that ?
@dirtbikerman1000
@dirtbikerman1000 3 года назад
@@pom999 I respect your comment my friend If you notice I said I'm happy that I upset the French government. NOT THE FRENCH PEOPLE. I've travelled all over the world and i have a few French friends. I care for my French friends but to me macron is a cry baby. I'm glad that you commented with such respect and open mindedness because I love the French people who I've met on my travels but the current government...well I won't say anything else. If you have Instagram then I'm boxingbren on there
@dirtbikerman1000
@dirtbikerman1000 3 года назад
@@pom999 also theres reasons why brexit was the biggest turn out for voters ever in British history and theres reasons why brexit actually happened. Everything balances itself naturally eventually. Britain being in the EU was against our 2 thousand years of becoming a country. The EU thought 40 years of rules would cancel out 2000 years of developing the uk... The people felt this and thats why it happened
@yesbutactuallyno8305
@yesbutactuallyno8305 3 года назад
The same happened to us in Norway when we were supposed to buy EU war jets but ended up bying F-35s from the US instead... the French are very easily offended😂🤣
@davehill4295
@davehill4295 3 года назад
You are very naughty upsetting the French 🙂
@dife8227
@dife8227 3 года назад
France submachine could be made in China!!! Has anyone forgot france helped to build the lab where virus leaked!?
@xaal001
@xaal001 3 года назад
good luck with the piece of crap that the F-35 is....
@anirbanbandyopadhyay3553
@anirbanbandyopadhyay3553 3 года назад
@@dife8227 thats a lie. It was US CDC under the Faucci regime who helped. There is still senate hearing going on in US with calls for sending Dr Faucci to jail. France had nothing to do with wuhan lab. You are just a fraud shill 🤣🤣🤣
@dife8227
@dife8227 3 года назад
@@anirbanbandyopadhyay3553 if you dig further, you will find CCP and communist inside USA and France behind !
@worldofameiso5491
@worldofameiso5491 3 года назад
Always good to give French government a wake up call every now and again, stops them from getting to complacent.
@shivas3003
@shivas3003 3 года назад
search about quasi-war
@rhino3330
@rhino3330 3 года назад
I beg your pardon ?
@petertaylor3600
@petertaylor3600 3 года назад
Nothing to do with it....we needed to be honourable enough to keep to a contract we signed, simply because this PM wants to be re-elected at the looming election here. If the subs are a poor quality, etc., it's up to us to look before signing. Go for it, France!
@CYPRUS005
@CYPRUS005 3 года назад
France is having a tantrum over spilled milk! Does France call the Australians and tell them all about the deals their make with others?
@DJ-yj1vg
@DJ-yj1vg 3 года назад
I'm sure they have economic or military agreements without Australia's inclusion. I can't see why they're so disappointed. Each country is entitled to make their own decisions I would have thought. They're just annoyed that we saw through their overly expensive deal and found a better deal elsewhere. That's life. Suck it up...
@CYPRUS005
@CYPRUS005 3 года назад
@@DJ-yj1vg They also forgot all about how they blocked vaccines leaving for Australia.
@fcapio
@fcapio 3 года назад
Macron's protest is playing the air-guitar for the French people...
@stuartjones2812
@stuartjones2812 3 года назад
Haha. I think the yellow jackets are all he has left.
@jomon723
@jomon723 3 года назад
The French have had delays and keep moving the price up
@kevinoconnor4954
@kevinoconnor4954 3 года назад
4 years of delays, and the French still haven't even designed a single submarine yet, so by the time they actually did build one it would be totaly Obsolete, you shouldn't form an Alliance with the French as they can't be trusted, they will use you when it's for their benefif but crap on you and leave you in the sh-t if it doesn't benefit them, Stab and Back would be in any description of France
@nevadak3424
@nevadak3424 3 года назад
You just described your own fcking gvt!!
@Frenchtoastedfruitloops
@Frenchtoastedfruitloops 3 года назад
@@nevadak3424 Thats most governments lol. The ones that are not are in the minority these days.
@foraustralia2558
@foraustralia2558 3 года назад
Australia also changed the Spec;.... Aust Gove tis only attacking the French builders because we have changed our mind
@halisee7170
@halisee7170 3 года назад
@@kevinoconnor4954 And nitwit would be any description of you mate. Stop talking stupid, you are sounding obsolete☺ Inform yourself on the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II story, smarty guy!
@AussieMaleTuber
@AussieMaleTuber 3 года назад
The Anglo-Saxon English speaking friends are banding together to improve Australias defence against China. France is in decline, is a 2nd rate military power, and they pulled out on their marine sales to Russia. France is weak, we need better, stronger alliance's. And, these political events help the French people get a better President next year
@BoycottChinaa
@BoycottChinaa 3 года назад
France was pressured into dropping the Russian ship sale because EU partners were concerned with Russia invading Ukraine
@marindancirco6498
@marindancirco6498 3 года назад
Since I learned English here in Au more then three decades ago, my curiosity was; the make up of political driving force behind the Au, future young and old including the ww1 and 2 veterans that fought for. I pledge to be faithful when I earn Australia Citizenship so because that I was told later: “my service to Australia it is not welcome anymore”. I DARE to continue for what I pledge for: HUMAN RIGHT HERE IND THE REST OF THE WORLD. I’m not surprise because others, over decades told similar words. From time to time is still been in the media Australia's desire to keep an OLD IDEOLOGY there is: SPECULATIVE INDUSTRY/ECONOMY with any risk. SPECULATIVE INDUSTRY/ECONOMY never been SUSTAINABLE Beyond reasonable doubts anyone's filling it is not surprise when comes to SAVING LIVES: just in the 15Century but with more ease in 21Century propped/supported by advance Tech, fiscally build-ed mostly after Dirty deals with others around the Word. by Danny Marin Circo fb dmc32@email.com 19092021
@randyross5630
@randyross5630 3 года назад
The US and UK will fight to the Death to Defend Australia, because we are literally Blood, cut from the same Cloth. And this just shows how Fair Weather France is... Ever Since Macron I honestly Can't Stand them, don't Trust them, but really its ever since they Killed off the Ross' Cousins the French Crown! And than how the Satanists took over their Masonic Lodges, and to think about it my mom's mom's side of the Family had to flee Lebanon because of the French, Prince had to Flee too, marrying some Distant cousin of mine...
@kaimalino528
@kaimalino528 3 года назад
@@randyross5630 "The US and UK will fight to the Death to Defend Australia, because we are literally Blood" - this is the type of empty rhetoric that convinces no one. Maybe the National Socialists ... they talk about blood a lot. Verbal diarrhea. No American or British Patriot will die to defend Australia. All we know is American, British and Australian patriots died for France in not one but two wars. What did they get for it? Other than these poor deluded souls no one will die for another country. Its bad enough to have to die for your country. I think everyone has learned that lesson; just ask the Afghans..
@AussieMaleTuber
@AussieMaleTuber 3 года назад
@@kaimalino528 For the Anglo Saxons, family, Nation, culture is everything, and are saving the world from the Central Banks, and from the Corporate Media through which you lense history and the world! What fractured, rascist Third World background do you come from Kai?
@christopherrayner7692
@christopherrayner7692 3 года назад
A Frenchman calls the UK/USA/Australia alliance a cabal. That from a person living in a country in the EU! Irony not a French strong point.
@ko5000
@ko5000 3 года назад
If French can offer better product and less delays, this "shock" may not have occurred...
@richardendo8707
@richardendo8707 3 года назад
You missed the cost overruns
@Zukfew
@Zukfew 3 года назад
They got called out on that con job, now they are making themselves the victim.
@janeblog1900
@janeblog1900 3 года назад
Are we related? 🤣
@shadon551
@shadon551 3 года назад
You hit the nail right on the head👍
@SciFiGrinch
@SciFiGrinch 3 года назад
Exactly right, France has no strategic ties to the south china sea and barely any with the countries around it. This was them losing out on a sweet deal for a rather antiquated sub and Macron still being upset with the UK about Brexit.
@kiljoy3254
@kiljoy3254 3 года назад
They are so reflexively leftist it must be in their DNA
@not.likely
@not.likely 3 года назад
Macron had a dejavu of Madame Guillotine
@danprat6748
@danprat6748 3 года назад
why pay 3 times the price for a diesel sub over a much more effective and efficient nuke ? that made no sense from the start.
@AG-ig8uf
@AG-ig8uf 3 года назад
Because too many idiots in AU get triggered by ANY mention of nuclear.
@kerosj9975
@kerosj9975 3 года назад
@Andy Man Yea I think China would love the aussies to have a costly inferior obselete subs when it's time to attack.
@antoinedescours2459
@antoinedescours2459 3 года назад
France build nuclear sub-marines since 1971
@kerosj9975
@kerosj9975 3 года назад
@Andy Man You mean the arab nations or the third world countries? Are you joking? it's a given to win against them, arab nations are one of the most inneficient militaries in the world, and third world countries are well... third world countries, it's like fighting a demented fool or a cripple and being proud of it. Plus nuclear subs of that time were still in their beginning stages, now they're leagues above from older versions. China on the other hand is Nuclear armed nation, outnumbers the aussies 14-1 militarily (though quality wise they're qurstionable) then you're victim blaming them for choosing the US over the french who by the way kept delaying the delivery in a time were a war might start in the near decade plus the subs not only being obselete but also way overpriced compared to their US nuclear counterparts that minimum maintenance. Boy? You should take a good look at the mirror and tell me what you see.
@kerosj9975
@kerosj9975 3 года назад
@@antoinedescours2459 Yes it's a wonder why they're making diesel subs when they have nuclear powered subs and taking so long of a time to make it... It's like they're milking the Aussies for all the cash they have and ripping them off, crazy right?
@steves5172
@steves5172 3 года назад
To understand the French attitude look at the way France treated the UK over Brexit, and it continues!
@errormatrix4159
@errormatrix4159 3 года назад
And will continue.
@thomaspollocknageoire4206
@thomaspollocknageoire4206 3 года назад
Fuck UK !!!!!! : Traitors
@errormatrix4159
@errormatrix4159 3 года назад
@@thomaspollocknageoire4206 Yes, time for EU to end NATO, and improve relations with Russia,and don´t get involved into AUKUS war with China, if they are so strong, let them go at it alone.
@jacknguyen5677
@jacknguyen5677 3 года назад
@@errormatrix4159 I think they wanted to contain China like the Soviet Era
@kevinmadden1152
@kevinmadden1152 3 года назад
Macron is very angry, hope he doesn't take it out on his kids!
@garykennedy4856
@garykennedy4856 3 года назад
Thought he was a pillow biter?
@2243saru
@2243saru 3 года назад
@@garykennedy4856 Just like the U.S. military indeed.
@habibcisse9809
@habibcisse9809 3 года назад
He don’t have kids
@criscross572
@criscross572 3 года назад
The French did everything they could to mess up Brexit for the UK so this is just a bit of karma 😉
@cernunnos5727
@cernunnos5727 3 года назад
The UK did not need France to mess thing up, it can only blame itself.
@pauljohnson1664
@pauljohnson1664 3 года назад
@@cernunnos5727 My wages have gone up because of Brexit. So not all bad. Or maybe you think the working class shouldn't get a living wage.
@bernardgiroux1203
@bernardgiroux1203 3 года назад
The English messed up Brexit. They may as well asked for another bloody Sunday along with Scotland independence with the Welsh following not far behind.
@ColdWarSubSailor_-
@ColdWarSubSailor_- 3 года назад
Question: why not use French nuclear subs? Answer: France's nuclear cores need refueling twice over the life of the sub, and Australia does not want to have to create a nuclear infrastructure.
@adamant5419
@adamant5419 3 года назад
French subs are crap anyway; Australia cannot waste money on diesel shite that will have to surface every 24 hours!!
@anoopharidas9261
@anoopharidas9261 3 года назад
Thanks for writing the only useful comment in this entire sorry pile of wilfully indoctrinated shite.
@ColdWarSubSailor_-
@ColdWarSubSailor_- 3 года назад
@16vjtdalfa WTF are you talking about?
@foraustralia2558
@foraustralia2558 3 года назад
That is correct... funny how few people on this comment stream care enough about democracy to find out even that basics...
@foraustralia2558
@foraustralia2558 3 года назад
​@@adamant5419 US navy has a request to build Diesel Subs again as well They are always quieter ..but with less endurance
@ezraepizon5303
@ezraepizon5303 3 года назад
Let the French cook a nice lunch and serve the wine! 75 years after WW2 and Europe is not able to defend itself and somebody thought it was a good idea to buy French subs?
@doubleot1984
@doubleot1984 3 года назад
Defend against who, Russia, who the US and UK keep picking fights with. fuck that, our businesses and farmers wanna trade with Russia.
@kaimalino528
@kaimalino528 3 года назад
As I said in another board, whenever there is a huge deal for second rate merchandise you can be sure someone got bribed.
@Derzull2468
@Derzull2468 3 года назад
Germany is not allowed to defend itself.
@admiralcraddock464
@admiralcraddock464 3 года назад
As if France wouln`t have done this if it suited them. As a Brit anything that pisses the French off is ok by me
@kaimalino528
@kaimalino528 3 года назад
If not for the Germans the Brits and the French would still be at each other's throats. How the French sweet talked the Brits into fighting the Germans still boggles the mind.
@MrJiwer
@MrJiwer 3 года назад
That is actually a good point: why did France not offer nuclear submarines to the Aussies? Well, mainly because it is an infringement of the non proliferation treaty. The USA not giving a shit, set a precedent allowing Russia-China and Pakistan to sell eachother nuclear tech. Well done guys, let's hope that not come to bite you in the ass, because, and it is a releif for us europeans, you are now on the front line of the next worl conflict, not us. Et voila, bon appetit!
@svennielsen633
@svennielsen633 3 года назад
Do not worry: Macron will soon be out, and then Australian-French relationships will be normalized again.
@Winged1212
@Winged1212 3 года назад
I had an insult ready then I remembered we have Joe Biden 🤦‍♂️ America can't say anything to anyone as long as potato is in office.
@robinlecomte1242
@robinlecomte1242 3 года назад
Do you remember the "Peanut Farmer". He had a brother that became embarrassment - remember those days. Ah, American History - what would we do with out it?
@tsubadaikhan6332
@tsubadaikhan6332 3 года назад
Joe's absolutely not as sharp as he was a few years ago. But he's still a hundred times better than Trump. That freaking idiot accidently killed 600,000 of his own citizens, & can't figure out why he lost an election. Anyone that follows his dumb ass is a certified fucking moron...
@Michael1964
@Michael1964 3 года назад
I feel for you m8, I really do.
@danprat6748
@danprat6748 3 года назад
@@tsubadaikhan6332 you're ignorant as hell.
@Winged1212
@Winged1212 3 года назад
@@tsubadaikhan6332 Trump killed 600,000 Americans??? Ohhhh you're insane with TDS I will gladly accept a debate over who has done what in office between Biden and Trump. That debate is like beating up a teenager. Say something 👂
@bryanmower2703
@bryanmower2703 3 года назад
My sister was attacked by a troupe of French mime artists ..... they did unspeakable things
@bakersmileyface
@bakersmileyface 3 года назад
Did they surround her and box her in?
@jimmywrangles
@jimmywrangles 3 года назад
Best comment ever.
@Theineluctable_SOME_CANT
@Theineluctable_SOME_CANT 3 года назад
Hmm.... Lol
@sirderam1
@sirderam1 3 года назад
Actually did make me LOL!
@petertaylor3600
@petertaylor3600 3 года назад
Actions speak louder than words, they tell me....quite often! (Bryan Mower)
@patrickwatters7555
@patrickwatters7555 3 года назад
The french have just had a reality check.
@MrJiwer
@MrJiwer 3 года назад
Remember Irak? Whose reality got checked, you dumbdumb? This is a precedent in selling nuclear, and reality is that this deal between US and Australia just enabled everybody to sell nuclear submarines to eachother> Now who has more money for nuclear submarines right now, China or Australia? Eat your freedom fries and stfu.
@gristlybillow7050
@gristlybillow7050 3 года назад
China already have nuclear powered submarines you absolute rocket. So sit down and eat your chips 😂😂😂
@ThePRCommander
@ThePRCommander 3 года назад
@@MrJiwer How come you reach that conclusion?
@MrJiwer
@MrJiwer 3 года назад
@@gristlybillow7050 They did, but could not trade with Russia: you think they did not want to? They are making their tanks interoperatory, and will do the same with their subs. Their tech was not as good as Russia, and they refrained from trading freely with them because of NPT: now they can. What about NK? SK? Pakistan? India? Everybody in the area want these (India has been dying for years to buy or even rent them from Russia), and because of this idiotic move, everybody will have them in the coming decade. Like it or not, AU and US just opened a can of worms, and many kangaroos will die because of it.
@gristlybillow7050
@gristlybillow7050 3 года назад
@@MrJiwer India also have nuclear powered submarines 🤣🤣🤣 its like you're just saying buzz words, hoping to scare people. You're not press are you? 😉😂😂😂😂
@bielsaball8443
@bielsaball8443 3 года назад
When Australia spotted that French design submarines only went in reverse... deal was off.. come to world war specialist UK US 👍🏼
@mksensej8701
@mksensej8701 3 года назад
I think Exocet rocket was French technology .
@markusaralius
@markusaralius 3 года назад
The screen door hatches didn't help the French subs much either.
@Bertie22222
@Bertie22222 3 года назад
The French should ask themselves why they weren't informed of this alliance. They can't be trusted, never could.
@kaimalino528
@kaimalino528 3 года назад
Ask the Afghans if they can trust the Americans.
@unnaturalselection8330
@unnaturalselection8330 3 года назад
“not simply about the submarines” .....but also, the money and the loss of face. France has some natural issues with their place as a B-tier power.
@useridgaf-p6b
@useridgaf-p6b 3 года назад
You rate them that high?
@BigBoomOfDoom2
@BigBoomOfDoom2 3 года назад
@@useridgaf-p6b Well, to be fair their military is almost an exact equal to Britains, and I think that you'd be naive to say that the UK wasn't a B tier power. It's clearly not A tier like the USA, but definitely not any lower than B tier either.
@zeroniner1383
@zeroniner1383 3 года назад
@@BigBoomOfDoom2 I’m pretty sure that the French actually rank higher than the british in almost every way.
@SVW1976
@SVW1976 3 года назад
B-tier? C at best
@BigBoomOfDoom2
@BigBoomOfDoom2 3 года назад
@@zeroniner1383 Then you'd be pretty wrong.
@edwardcumpstey9061
@edwardcumpstey9061 3 года назад
France is mad because the Anglosphere is stronger than ever.
@chromazome501
@chromazome501 3 года назад
An American - That's what it boils down to. What better nations as allies?
@eleveneleven572
@eleveneleven572 3 года назад
If you deal with France you are drawn into the EU web. Besides the timescale, cost and technology of French subs was a mess.
@yoonayouli7169
@yoonayouli7169 3 года назад
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@louisbeerreviews8964
@louisbeerreviews8964 3 года назад
@gdi wolverine not anymore
@peacewillprevail1
@peacewillprevail1 3 года назад
The tech in the sub was Lockheed Martin 😂
@gristlybillow7050
@gristlybillow7050 3 года назад
If the french are "just as able" to provide new nuclear submarines, why were they late on delivering diesel powered ones? 🤔🤔🤔
@ZifnabHydre
@ZifnabHydre 3 года назад
Because the Australian government expressly requested to use conventional propulsion in 2016 since they have no experience and infrastructure with nuclear technology and wishes to build them directly (under French supervision). They wanted conventional submarines with advanced technology (of course). So, after long discussions between them, the French came back with a modification of their nuclear submarines, meaning a new model just for them. All of this increases the budget and the schedule. People say the budget was too big (and it's true) but there's also a reason AUKUS hasn't talked about the new budget (and the new timeline). I'm French and I'm not mad against this deal. I can totally understand that the military vision changed depending on the regional geopolitics. At the beginning, Australia wants submarines to defend his territories and his region, and now they want to deploy over much greater distances. That's also why China is angry (and several others neighboring countries are afraid about this new Alliance). France too since they also have a strong military presence in Oceania and tries with those countries to keep a good balance. The main reason the French government is so unhappy is that until a few hours before the official announcement, only the Americans sent them a notice. In August, the Australian government officially told France that everything was fine. But the real anger is about the geopolitical changes where the United States wants to control the whole area on its own without using diplomatic protocols. They use the "Five Eyes" + Japan, South Korea and Taiwan to achieve this goal. And now the EU is supporting France. Why? Because over the last decade (under Obama, Trump and Biden), the USA have started to make decisions without consultation, considering others as "vassals". Eavesdropping against them, NATO leadership, F-35 contract, no support with the Crimean war, requires participation in the Iraq / Afghanistan war, etc. The bucket is becoming too big even for "Allies". Despite all this, I can understand that the USA protects its own interest at first. It's becoming incompatible with the UE. In the end, the message is clear to us: the US is watching against China, and the EU is not enough reliable anymore (because they don't want to follow them every time or challenge the true motivation). In addition, many EU countries are developing an economic partnership with Russia and China. The United States is not happy with this.
@doneB830
@doneB830 3 года назад
US nuclear subs cost around $2 bn each we were paying France $90bn for 12 diesel subs.
@almac9203
@almac9203 3 года назад
The USA submarines will end up costing more. This was confirmed by the Australian government. You are dreaming if you think you are only paying $2 billion a submarine.
@Galaxy-zb2ee
@Galaxy-zb2ee 3 года назад
@@almac9203 They're paying for the British ones, slighty cheaper but around the same quality.
@almac9203
@almac9203 3 года назад
@@Galaxy-zb2ee I heard Dutton say the new Submarine deal will likely be more expensive than the French deal. I think you are going to be disappointed if you are hoping it will be cheaper. The interviewer asked him about the costs and they speculated about the numbers and he conceded it will be expensive. The journalist asked if the project could end up being twice as expensive and he didn't answer but said it was likely to be expensive but he was hoping to negotiate a good deal. Wait on the details before celebrating.
@Galaxy-zb2ee
@Galaxy-zb2ee 3 года назад
@@almac9203 im not hoping for anything - not aussie lol
@pr7638
@pr7638 3 года назад
numbers around the $200 billion AUS for the new program are talked about. more expensive
@Conky769
@Conky769 3 года назад
If these French hadn't started manufacturing the vessels after 10 years then no tears. Just end of contract and goodnight.
@fishnchips8132
@fishnchips8132 3 года назад
just so long as billions in compensation is NOT paid - which would fund the luciferians quite nicely.
@vincentfoxall5704
@vincentfoxall5704 3 года назад
The argument about the submarines has been on sky Australia on UTube for months.The French guy isn't very clued up is he!.
@Kannot2023
@Kannot2023 3 года назад
There election in France this year, Macron should blame someone
@MrRawMonkey
@MrRawMonkey 3 года назад
The icing on the cake for the French is that the U.K is part of the alliance. The French have never got over the U.K. leaving the EU. France is also leaky. Tell France anything and they will share it with 27 EU nations.
@enlightenedrelic204
@enlightenedrelic204 3 года назад
To leak or not to leak, give them a few truffles, a glass of wine and a good hairy arm pitted shagging and they'll soon get over it.
@bradwilliams1691
@bradwilliams1691 3 года назад
The French are still pissed off over the Battle of Agincourt.
@kadmow
@kadmow 3 года назад
- Isn't Russia also the silent party in all of those... (Listening behind every fitting and fixture)
@domdolittle
@domdolittle 3 года назад
@@bradwilliams1691 Agincourt, Azincourt to be precise, never made a slight difference, the French won the 100 years war, but the battle of Hasting in 1066 did... England was made a vassal of French laws and customs, a colony of French nobility for centuries, in fact anything great about Great Britain, you could argue, came from the French !!!
@bradwilliams1691
@bradwilliams1691 3 года назад
Dom H Thanks for the history lesson. Cheers from Melbourne Australia.
@jribeye1818
@jribeye1818 3 года назад
One question…… How many of our fallen are buried in your country compared to how many of your fallen are buried here in Australia???
@robertphillips2983
@robertphillips2983 3 года назад
Yes, well said. How quickly they forget......
@donandrew3230
@donandrew3230 3 года назад
And, against protestations, repaid our sacrifice with illegal underwater nuclear detonations (causing untold damage to tectonic-plates) in our near backyard of Polynesia.
@antoinedescours2459
@antoinedescours2459 3 года назад
It's a weird way to say that australian soil never experienced any war of any kind. that's not nice
@jribeye1818
@jribeye1818 3 года назад
@@antoinedescours2459 no. It’s just a way of saying how we have sacrificed for the French.
@Ride_on54
@Ride_on54 3 года назад
I’ve read about the deal it was the most stupid deal I’ve ever heard off clearly in Frances favour no wonder their pissed of
@MrGuez37
@MrGuez37 3 года назад
the frenchs got it in the toushy
@jpc7118
@jpc7118 3 года назад
French had proposed a better deal with nuke cub barracuda class which is very recognised efficient by many navies. AUSTRALIA called for a diesel one and France had accepted to share ALL the technology transferts. Since 2017, there were french engineers working with australian ones in both countries. Also, the "other" bad point is that France wouldn't deliver the sub before the mid 2030's BUT USA won't deliver them before 2040 ! Also, in the occidental camp, the second navy operating in front of Chinese by numbers at a great cost is French navy. FRance adopted a clearer and stronger posture than any other western allies (at the exclusion of USA which is not a surprise as USA is the leader of the free world even if they like to betray often their strongest allies...)
@nigelvaughan429
@nigelvaughan429 3 года назад
Macron throwing a tantrum but it is ok for France & Germany to try and split UK from N.Ireland
@hereward6771
@hereward6771 3 года назад
They won't succeed in splitting NI from UK. We will ignore the 'border' down the Irish sea. We drop VAT to 5% in NI. Paddy will love it. Streaming across the border to fill up at Tesco and B+Q. Everyone's a winner, except EU.
@thathckingnutfromchiangmai5481
@thathckingnutfromchiangmai5481 3 года назад
My 2 seconds analysis : France has been relegated to second stage as a third world country
@warrenalexander5285
@warrenalexander5285 3 года назад
They wish they were merely third world.
@lunafringe10
@lunafringe10 3 года назад
France is de facto bankrupt, this is not wishful thinking, its reality
@sheara13
@sheara13 3 года назад
Just remember that there are Australian's buried in France and not the other way around. So if you French types want to push the issue just remember who was trying to save your arses from Germany.
@xaal001
@xaal001 3 года назад
Are you so naïve to think Australia fought in France just to help them ? 🤣
@sheara13
@sheara13 3 года назад
@@xaal001 Of course not - but lest we forget.
@sheara13
@sheara13 3 года назад
@@HKB83 Shouldn't have to use anything. Its a business deal. But the moment the Frogs pulled their ambassadors from the U.S. and Oz - they made it political and consequently - open to a barrage of shitty comments from everyone.
@franminky7763
@franminky7763 3 года назад
Anything that sends the Odious Macron into a girly hissy fit , is fine by me
@jimcoulter5877
@jimcoulter5877 3 года назад
Yup, me too! I mean America has had to Bail France out a couple of times. We are in the year 2021 France get with the program! You are a Backwards Country! Maybe if y'all drink more water and less Wine might help you of France!
@LG-qb3wk
@LG-qb3wk 3 года назад
UK US Australia now that’s a true band of brothers = Stronger Together. 🇦🇺 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
@willmont8258
@willmont8258 3 года назад
US, UK, Australia, Canada, should consider a new alliance together. France and other EU countries don't seem to share the same values. Let the EU have its own military if they want. We all know it will be worthless.
@bakersmileyface
@bakersmileyface 3 года назад
I'll take Canada over the US. The US has been pushing it lately and they're starting to look more like a threat than an ally. The enemy of my enemy doesn't make them my friend though. Dealing with the US is clearly necessary given the world situation.
@carmenandthedevil2804
@carmenandthedevil2804 3 года назад
@@bakersmileyface The Prime Minister of Canada is a Woke idiot that can't be trusted mate. Biden is just a figurehead. The Rinos are being destroyed and hopefully the Deepstate will go the same way once all the left voters have seen what they have done. Tighter control on Big Tech is needed and the Idiot self important things in Hollywood etc need to be sentenced for what they have done to the American Tax Payer.
@bakersmileyface
@bakersmileyface 3 года назад
@@carmenandthedevil2804 I know Trudeau is an idiot that's bad for Canada, but he isn't particularly bad for the UK. As someone from the UK, I'll take Canada and Trudeau over the US and Biden any day. Backstabber Biden is just bad news. That guy has China written all over him
@paulsutton5896
@paulsutton5896 3 года назад
However did the Aussies think that diesel submarines were worth having? The French must have been leading the Aussies up the garden path.
@geoffreybudge3027
@geoffreybudge3027 3 года назад
Didn’t the French lose the war twice but had their chestnuts pulled out of the fire by others ? I wonder who
@carmenandthedevil2804
@carmenandthedevil2804 3 года назад
@Somerset Row WW2
@benpalombi3069
@benpalombi3069 3 года назад
They have a better battle record than us in Australia
@robinlecomte1242
@robinlecomte1242 3 года назад
I could relate a story about the French Army at the commencement of both WW1 & WW2, but I am sure the YT algorithm would have a hissy fit - and it is not conspiracy theory, it is actual fact - but at a later date & time.
@deancorso4630
@deancorso4630 3 года назад
France won WW1 poor idiot, and before the US arrived, US who were equipped by France, go read some books you need so
@kaimalino528
@kaimalino528 3 года назад
@@deancorso4630 The only reason France "won" that war is they sweet-talked the British into fighting the Germans together with their other Friend, the Russians. When the Russians collapsed with exhaustion, the French (with a little help from the British) bamboozled the Americans into joining. When the French and the British deadlocked with the Germans in 1918, American intervention was decisive. If not for the Americans the Germans would have well won that war. Most likely there would not have been a Versailles Treaty, a Hitler and a second round.
@johnboyd6943
@johnboyd6943 3 года назад
The French should remember that Australian diggers gave their lives to save France in two world wars. They should grow up and stop throwing the toys out of the cot. The French are pissed because they won't be able to rip off Australia for decades. Australia is looking after Australia and it's about time. A shocking contract that should never have been signed in the first place.
@bushwacker508
@bushwacker508 3 года назад
Does France even have a submarine?
@keithharding8645
@keithharding8645 3 года назад
If it had suited them, the French would have ditched the deal without hesitation!
@sausagefingers714
@sausagefingers714 3 года назад
Submarine deal fall though France: the Australians stabbed us in the back and were not happy and will get our media to make you look like the bad guy because of what you've done! Australia: we are shopping for subs that are better suited for us and our country in order to help and protect our country the best we can. AND we did tell you France that we might buy them from somewhere else. France: its not simply about the submarines!!!! blah blah blah you have disrespected us and we wont forget this!. I'm so tired of seeing France crying and screaming this past few years, they love to stand up and publicly point fingers. this will have a negative effect on France in the long run, they wont be taken seriously.. not that they already are taken seriously. sorry
@kainoctis7724
@kainoctis7724 3 года назад
you cant take a country seriously who couldnt defend itself in two world wars. As biden would say, c'mon man.
@ironhornforge
@ironhornforge 3 года назад
They'd do well to remember who fought and died helping them before throwing our relationship under the bus. My grandfather is still there on the battlefields of France along with 10s of thousands of other Aussies, Americans and Brits. I suggest they pull their heads in and quick.
@guyhmajor
@guyhmajor 3 года назад
Agreed. Also worth noting the family and cultural ties that many Aussies and Poms have. We save our verbal assaults for each other over the Ashes.
@chemcom276
@chemcom276 3 года назад
As a french we will always remember your grandparents who died in our country (just remember we had 1 600 000 kia and 6 000 000 wia during ww1, we know what is the blood price). But today you opened the pandora box. I can say you we are very angry and humilated. You asked for diesel (we could sell you nukes too), you asked to make them in Australia, you asked for many changements, we worked hard to please you, and without any explanation you say « stop, we buy nukes to USA ». Now, we will never trust you, or UK or USA, and the future war won’t be in Europe, but in Pacific zone, our people, our soldiers, won’t move to help you, sorry. I was pro UK/aussies/US, now i hope we will stop to be allies, we don’t need « friends » like u.
@jaydenspear
@jaydenspear 3 года назад
@@chemcom276 I suggest you read a paper not made in France. The design the French offered wasn't an ideal design, the costs ballooned considerably up from what was originally quoted. French agreed for 90% to made in Australia. This was then scaled back to 60%, with the final amount most likely to be much less still. And all of this was after french delay after french delay after french delay. The people who torpedoed (pun intended) the deal was the French government. So is it any wonder that ultimately the Australian government rejected an out of date design, horrendously over priced, not fit for spec sub that they weren't even allowed to build themselves?
@LosizakII
@LosizakII 3 года назад
Correct.
@ironhornforge
@ironhornforge 3 года назад
@@chemcom276 well good riddance to bad rubbish. We don't want entitled arrogant friends.
@rawjusticeman3128
@rawjusticeman3128 3 года назад
If it's not simply about submarines, then it must be about French fries and French toast.
@markdickson3820
@markdickson3820 3 года назад
Lots of same complaints, some understandable but the French subs were never a good fit for Australian needs. The comment about Brits being ‘stuck’ with their current nuclear subs is comical, by just about every analyst opinion they are currently the best nuclear subs in the world. France’s current subs are way out of date, especially with needing ‘refueling’ and perhaps they’ll design a new nuclear sub that is the best in the future but if history is any judge that is very unlikely. Their 1 aircraft carrier (albeit nuclear powered) is forever in dry dock getting repairs because the technology was clearly beyond them and because they weren’t building a dozen of them like America does it couldn’t spread the risk. In Nato, France is undoubtedly a strong contributor but it is the 3rd leg and has always been the 3rd military power after America (which is so far ahead of everyone else it’s a different league) and the Brits. I can understand the frustration, but as is often the case with France they’ve overplayed the symphony card and now just look like a petulant child throwing a tantrum.
@jb678901
@jb678901 3 года назад
The Brits have very good boats for sure. Both the US Virginia class and UK's Astute boats are considered top in class...and reasonably matched by the Yasen-class from the Russians. The US fast attacks have the edge on stealth at speed (quietness), and detection sonars. The Russian boats can reportedly dive deeper...but depth limits on vessels are not as key as the depth capability of the weapons themselves. Operational competency is a key factor. Better tacticians and boat drivers usually win the day. The Aussies will need to invest in co-training with their allies, in parallel with the boat builds. In this manner, they will have a cadre of professionals at the ready when the boats arrive. After that, it's all about proficiency in utilizing the assets to their optimal potential. To note, the Astute is less costly than the Virginia. Fuel loadout provided by the US infrastructure. My guess...to avoid additional costs the Aussie's will go for an existing block-design from either country and benefit from economies of scale. IMHO, either would be a much...MUCH...better choice than the French diesel-electric (bespoke) sub that had previously been contracted.
@tomx641
@tomx641 3 года назад
Aus is getting UK subs not US. If anyone claims to know which is better, ask them how long they served on each sub. Bet its zero days in both bases ;)
@MrKarlyboy
@MrKarlyboy 3 года назад
The Astute class is probably the best submarine in the world right now, coupled with the fact the Brits have just cracked Quantum encryption in a landmark discovery and broken the records for Quantum Encryption communications too. Such technology will more likely be shared with Australia but not France nor the EU. France would find a way to acquire it or spin it , buy it or package it, then try and move it to France, create some industry from it and then claim they are leaders in the field. They did exactly this with Satellite tech yet they never pioneered it, not build much of Galileo. Most of it came from Surrey in the UK.
@marindancirco6498
@marindancirco6498 3 года назад
Since I learned English here in Au more then three decades ago, my curiosity was; the make up of political driving force behind the Au, future young and old including the ww1 and 2 veterans that fought for. I pledge to be faithful when I earn Australia Citizenship so because that I was told later: “my service to Australia it is not welcome anymore”. I DARE to continue for what I pledge for: HUMAN RIGHT HERE IND THE REST OF THE WORLD. I’m not surprise because others, over decades told similar words. From time to time is still been in the media Australia's desire to keep an OLD IDEOLOGY there is: SPECULATIVE INDUSTRY/ECONOMY with any risk. SPECULATIVE INDUSTRY/ECONOMY never been SUSTAINABLE Beyond reasonable doubts anyone's filling it is not surprise when comes to SAVING LIVES: just in the 15Century but with more ease in 21Century propped/supported by advance Tech, fiscally build-ed mostly after Dirty deals with others around the Word. by Danny Marin Circo fb dmc32@email.com 19092021
@peskycitizen7582
@peskycitizen7582 3 года назад
Thank goodness we didn’t leave the Taliban any nuclear subs. Biden left them everything else in the military arsenal. He armed them better than most countries. Pray for the U.S. as she descends into a third-world country under Biden and Democrat rule. We the people are screwed. 💔
@johncassells8757
@johncassells8757 3 года назад
Ok, maybe we should have given the French a heads up? But the diesel subs had to go.
@MR.LMR1996
@MR.LMR1996 3 года назад
True. From what I understand Diesel-powered subs aren't as useful in open oceans like the Pacific as they would be in the Coastlines of Europe's waters. We need Nuclear-powered subs far more if China continues to keeps trying to kick shit off.
@antel704
@antel704 3 года назад
@@MR.LMR1996 clearly truth and USA care, and know in meantime my Croatia can buy few French diesel submarine like Mediterian Country if USA said. I dont see problem only in people who dont understand what allies are and how does they workin.
@AmsterdamHeavy
@AmsterdamHeavy 3 года назад
They got a heads up in June. Im American and Ive followed this story close enough to know that. This was no "surprise". Not even close.
@unnecessaryapostrophe4047
@unnecessaryapostrophe4047 3 года назад
Oh, no! What's France going to do? Threaten to leave NATO? 😂
@2243saru
@2243saru 3 года назад
闭嘴叛徒!
@billydoyle6919
@billydoyle6919 3 года назад
The French are the last nation to banging on about trust .
@MrKarlyboy
@MrKarlyboy 3 года назад
It was France and the EU that blocked life saving vaccines to Australia. Setting up a business in the EU / France has huge consequences and they can do whatever they like and contract law is not respected but the state can interfere excessively. That is why more businesses are locating or relocating to the UK in Europe and keeping well away from France and the EU sh*t show
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 3 года назад
The French Suffren nuclear subs are no doubt very good, and Australia contemplated them as an option, but due to the design of the reactor in the Suffren requiring a replacement of its nuclear fuel every ten years it was decided this was too complex and a capability Australia was unable to develop in a timely and cost effective way. Whereas both the British Astute Class and the American Virginia Class have reactors that last for the entire life of the submarine and don’t require deep maintenance or refuelling for their entire 35 year lifespan. This was a major factor in the Australians giving preference to the UK and US to provide the nuclear propulsion systems for these new submarines.
@iamstardust6989
@iamstardust6989 3 года назад
Thank you for explaining that.
@iankearns774
@iankearns774 3 года назад
@@PepeLePewPew-qy3en Have you seen the price of Diesel lately? No wonder we went nuclear.
@marshalllindsay315
@marshalllindsay315 3 года назад
Checking sources to be sure but…. The Australian goverment was buying conventionally powered Shortfin Barracuda boats; same hull, diesel power. They have been arguing with themselves ever since, over schedules, cost, technology sharing, where the work will be done and quick obsolescence as China deploys nuclear boats. The Suffren nuclear boats were never on the table as Australia was not eager to be a nuclear military and the French seemed very hinky about sharing any of that. So better reactors is a good reason not to chose the nuclear French Suffren but it seems as though the Australian choice was between a conventional French boat and a nuclear someone else. Does it matter? Dunno. Just thinking through how pissed of the French have any right to be. They tried to sell the wrong power plant.
@asc.445
@asc.445 3 года назад
@@PepeLePewPew-qy3en The point is the Frogs nuclear sub deal wasn't feasible. More to the point, who can trust the frogs?
@asc.445
@asc.445 3 года назад
@@PepeLePewPew-qy3en Relevent? As to what, the fact they weren't suitable for the Ozzies to purchase or another relevance only know to yourself? In trolling mode 😉.
@mrbear143
@mrbear143 3 года назад
The O’l saying - this deal would have had more leaks than a submarine with screen doors.....is actually pretty accurate in more ways than one had the French got their way.
@Mr.Ekshin
@Mr.Ekshin 3 года назад
As the old saying goes... "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. You just leave a lot of useless noisy baggage behind."
@petertaylor3600
@petertaylor3600 3 года назад
LOL love the analogy! Screen doors and open chimney pots. Sliding windows!!
@MrKevin77
@MrKevin77 3 года назад
Why not we withdraw from the disgusting Paris climate meeting?
@newyoupersonaldevelopment3497
@newyoupersonaldevelopment3497 3 года назад
I’ve not laughed so hard since the French thought Paris had got the Olympic Games only to be pipped at the post by London 😂 … the French are no friends of the English that’s for sure.
@deborahwillard3495
@deborahwillard3495 3 года назад
Government - not the French people wearing YELLOW JACKETS - who were getting maimed and killed for protesting a fuel tax hike, to milk cash from the poorest, while exempting aeroplanes and giant ships who pay zero fuel tax
@robinlecomte1242
@robinlecomte1242 3 года назад
As Ilhan Omar would state - "Tis all about Le Franc"
@stormselah
@stormselah 3 года назад
It wouldn't be the first time the French have acted irrationally in a time of potential conflict.
@druisteen
@druisteen 3 года назад
They have a Brititis prime minister who was know for his alcoholism and mental problem ! His name was ...Wiston Churchill !!
@jordantrinci-lyne2490
@jordantrinci-lyne2490 3 года назад
The UK isn’t involved in the Quad and we’re getting every trick played on brexit we’re still going!!
@philmills4473
@philmills4473 3 года назад
We are involved but not a art of the quad, uk is head of the commobwealth, we in UK have an interest to see the quad succeed. Hats off and that's about it but no not officially involved more keeping an eye on it.
@foraustralia2558
@foraustralia2558 3 года назад
@@philmills4473 No you're not head of the Commonwealth !!!... go back to fantasy island. ..UK has to US Nuclear technology ...so it can bid on some of this work
@TheRoswellCode
@TheRoswellCode 3 года назад
Looks like these groups have trust levels and the Quad is not the highest trust level anyway.
@millsyLFC
@millsyLFC 3 года назад
@@foraustralia2558 this is something some of my compatriots get mistaken. The Queen of England is the current head of the commonwealth and will be until she dies. But her replacement is then chosen by the Commonwealth leaders and her heirs have no birth right of being the head.
@chromazome501
@chromazome501 3 года назад
@@foraustralia2558 An American - The UK will always maintain its independence from the United States b/c the United States does not seek power at the expense of others or any kind of world domination. The people of the U.K. are our brothers and sisters. Trade with others nations, be friendly with other nations, but always keep one eye open when you sleep and never hand your greatest ally the keys to your house. Anyone can be tempted. The United States shares nuclear technology b/c we are, at minimum, 50 years ahead of everyone else including China. The very same thing applies to Australia. When we make promises we live up to them and that is more than what I can say for France. However, France will see how futile the EU is b/c the EU is destined to fail. It does not have the manpower, finances, or manufacturing capability to stand toe to toe with the west nor does China. China has the number, but they do not have the technical know-how and they are not a creative people, hence the reason they steal all their tech. The EU and the New World Order were machinations dreamed up by relics of men who's time has come. The EU and the New World Order will fail, and have been failing for quite some time.
@davebirkbeck9348
@davebirkbeck9348 3 года назад
The French need to learn English if they want to trade with the western countries.
@HighDiver5555
@HighDiver5555 3 года назад
Lots of French people are fluent in English just like lots of other people in the world. Difference is, they see it as prideful to speak their own language even outside their own borders. They only speak English when its absolutely necessary
@mrlegkick91
@mrlegkick91 3 года назад
@@HighDiver5555 I think they're kinda bitter that they also had a massive empire but English ended up being the world language
@kvakerbillduck9500
@kvakerbillduck9500 3 года назад
Hamp So basicaly french act like they still have empire, and are feared like under napoleon, but in reality they are just big country full of adult babies.
@deancorso4630
@deancorso4630 3 года назад
Tg le rosbif, English is a horrible language
@CDNSMOKEJUMPER
@CDNSMOKEJUMPER 3 года назад
@@deancorso4630, maybe but here you are speaking to us anglos in English while we don't have to learn yours.
@nickboylen6873
@nickboylen6873 3 года назад
“We are retiring our last class of nuclear submarines while the British are stuck with their current class of submarines for at least another decade” True, at face value, but the RN are operating the Astute and Vanguard classes, exceptional in their capabilities, and the Astute is pretty new with the best kit on the planet. The French subs have never had even close to the RN capabilities, and they are retiring obsolete, worn out tat!
@sirderam1
@sirderam1 3 года назад
Indeed. The Astutes are just a few years old and we are still building the later boats in the batch. They are a very new and highly capable type of submarine. Also, Britain has already started design work on the next batch of boats that will supersede the Astutes.
@sixdegrees6434
@sixdegrees6434 3 года назад
The French forget that part of the agreement was to have the build facilities in Australia to generate jobs and bolster industry. The French reneged on the part of the deal along with massive cost overruns. I’m glad the whole deal is in the bin. Now we move forward with US Tech
@jb678901
@jb678901 3 года назад
Could be US, could be UK, likely a combination of both as the fuel is from the US, regardless of platform. Astute class or Virginia class boats are superior platforms, in every way.
@rapsheets4993
@rapsheets4993 3 года назад
Hopefully throw a nuclear warhead on each sub for Australia too
@Sidistic_Atheist
@Sidistic_Atheist 3 года назад
Remember... this is the France that refused to sell and export the Covid Vaccine to Australia. Before they'd made enough for themselves. We in Britain didn't do that..
@clemdane
@clemdane 3 года назад
I'm missing the background on this. From what I understand, Australia had told France a few years ago it was going to spend $66 billion on French made diesel-powered subs. Australia has had concerns for a while about these subs and their strategic value. Meanwhile, Australia talked to the US and UK secretly about switching to nuclear powered subs and agreed to share technology with each other. France feels betrayed by this and they now say they could have built nuclear subs for Australia.They also see this deal as a symbolic ostracism of France from an AU US UK power alliance created to match the growing power of China.
@RephrTokr
@RephrTokr 3 года назад
Oh no… The French are upset. Next thing you know, they will surrender….
@chemcom276
@chemcom276 3 года назад
Where ? in Filipina with Mac Arthur ? in Singapore with brits ? Or in Afghanistan, Iraki with USA ?
@braxtonnelson7422
@braxtonnelson7422 3 года назад
You, sir, are guilty of causing me to expel root beer through my nose!
@maxpayne6466
@maxpayne6466 3 года назад
Oui..oui..MEARDE
@deancorso4630
@deancorso4630 3 года назад
Like America in Afghanistan
@memphisquinn6387
@memphisquinn6387 3 года назад
@@braxtonnelson7422 😂😂😂😂😂
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