French Labour Law VS QSMP ⚖️🌍 - An explanation by yours truly 

EDIT 2: Hey, if you’re not a legal practitioner who studied French Law at a French Law college, please keep your audacity to yourself and do not tell me, A FRENCH LEGAL PRACTITIONER, that I’m wrong about the Law I both studied and currently practice, ESPECIALLY when you try to contradict me by affirming wrong information, showing you know absolutely nothing of French contract Law ❤ You’ll just look like a buffoon ☺️ EDIT : Subtitles in English are now available!! I corrected them myself lmao As someone rightfully pointed out on twitter, I have yet to add proper subtitles for this video!! It will be done this week! I just need a little break to let my brain rest because I spent four very intense days working on this video lmao

French Revolution: QSMP Edition

Such an informative video! Unfortunately in latam countries our labour laws are so broken and the work culture is so depressing that they see french labour laws as whinning but if the qsmp wants to keep itself as a serious project than quackity needs to work alot to gain the trust of his french admins again, i have alot of love for the project but as q said "if my funds are not enough to pay the admins then the qsmp will shut down", bc the server would be NOTHING without them.

Fun fact : on ne peut pas être bénévole pour une entreprise, seulement pour une association, comme l'indique le Guide du bénévolat. De plus la loi et l'URSSAF disent "Le bénévolat n'a pas sa place dans le monde professionnel", c'est incompatible. Quackity Studio n'est pas une association. C'est donc soit du travail déguisé, soit de la prestation (dans le cas où les admins sont dans une structure le permettant). Dans le cas où c'est de la presta, dans notre cas l'URSSAF refusera ce status et requalifiera le status comme embauche par rapport aux heures, au lien de subordination, et la rémunération

finally someone who already EXPLAIN (i never knew about that info of the law in france because nobody explains) THANK YOUUUUU GIRL WHO ALREADY SPEAK ENGLISH AND FRENCH❤❤❤❤ (if something has a bad translate or something, i'm sorry, english is not my first language)

Hi! Thx for the video. It was very informative! Im a brazilian viewer, and although im no expert, brasil also has pretty solid labor laws. Some of them could apply to the QSMP admins, so at least the ones based in brasil could have a pretty good chance if this matter is taken to court. However, i hope it doesn't come to that and that everything can be roselved fairly by Quackity

Par contre petite précision, les admines ne demande pas de l'argent, juste de meilleures conditions de travail ainsi que du respect, afin de continuer à être volontaire dans des bonnes conditions

As a Brazilian Law Student, you slayed and I also think French Labour Law is sexy as fuck. And at least in Brazil, I THINK you can bring this case to court if we consider the Quackity Studios mess as ✨forced labour✨ (or as we formally call it, labour analogous to slavery) So the Voluntary Service law says: Art. 1 Sole Paragraph "Voluntary service does not generate an employment relationship, nor any obligation of a social security or related nature." HOWEVER according to art. 149 of the Brazilian Penal Code, labour analogous to slavery is characterized by the submission of someone to forced labour or exhaustive working hours, either subjecting them to degrading working conditions or restricting, by any means, their movement due to debt contracted, with the employer or agent" If theres a way to prove that there was some type of action that could happen if they fire themselves, they could go to court because it breaks the voluntaring law and checks one of the 3 points (forced labour + exhausting working hours) and get something from it (maybe not the sentence for labour analogous to slavery but still, maybe a recompensation). If the last point is about physically leaving like actual transportation it can check another point but I don't believe that's the case I'll check with my professor and give you guys an update. And also about the degrading working conditions, I believe it would count as their houses but psychological abuse may also apply (even that is not the case in here, if it's proved that something happened with ANY of the admins I think we can count this point) The Brazilian ones weren't paid a single cent, but if they did tho I think we can follow the same line as the French one but idk since informal labour its still very popular in Brazil (especially in the entretaiment/food/services industries). Also Brazilian Law isnt really the most imposed one since court cases can take years to happen and it can be distorced and looped as well. Just to note again, Im still a student. NOT A LAWYER I DIDNT DO THE OAB EXAM. So I'm not pretty sure, estudantes e trabalhadores do Direito Brasileiro por favor me respondam se isso está correto.

Impresionante conocer la brecha entre las leyes de trabajadores en francia y los "derechos laborales" en México (no se aplican el 90% de los casos). Algunos grupos luchan para cambiar la situación, desafortunadamente parece una pelea interminable y sin sentido debido al poco apoyo de las empresas y otros trabajadores que solo se burlan de estos activistas (los llaman *flojos*). En fin, veremos a qué llega el caso con qsmp, estoy con esperanzas de que todo se solucione correctamente.

estado unidenses descobrindo que existem direitos trabalhistas: 😯😱😰😱😯😮😱😨

thank you for such an informative video !! you really helped me understand the legal side of things a log better. some of the things people have directed towards the admins who spoke out have been really disappointing to read. i hope this helps people see what's going on as less of an attack on quackity and the server, and more like an attempt to try to protect the people that keep the qsmp running.

My country has almost the same laws and I'm from LATAM lol interesante But yep, I still find it super important to teach younger people to be more aware of what everything means when they start a job. And even more important, ask for something written if you are accepting a job, because it seems crazy to me that people accept jobs where they tell you "we will pay you at some point" and just believe in their words 😭 please everyone, be more careful!! I hope everything gets solved :)

I just really hope this can all be fixed. I really like the french creators But also i just hope the working conditions could be improved (if thats also the case for other admins as well.) Quackity did made a video about how he literally just found out about whats going on in the admin team (meaning he didn't know all of this was happening). He did now realize he needs to be more involved with that team. Again, i just really hope things gets figured out.

Hi! i'm a brazilian lawyer, and i particularly work within the work labour in brazil (CLT). The only one i can talk about is the egg Richarlyson and the brazilian admins, so, conecting that the work law in brazil is very "rule only" and the monetary cost will be required in the action: first off, the "contract" is international, and must be chosed by the parties, not choosing one the brazilian law will be used, OR the law where the place the worker used to work (i will pick brazil) The NDA would not work if it was a meaning to negate his human/fundamental rights, basically you cant sign a contract that will do you harm that violates some rights, there are rights you can sign to "give off" but the ones in discussion you cant like work and health (so, will assume that the nda would be desclassified bc of the degradation of the work) To classify as a worker you only need 5 things> be a person, the work must be done BY this person (not anyone else, bc i signed the work for this person especificaly), subordination of your boss telling you what to do (and what you cant do), habituality (you have to work there frequently, not once and never, like when you contract a painter to paint your house and done), and be paid by this job (but if you not, you could be qualified as worker and require the payment in court) The conditions of work shown by pomme (and i will assume by all other eggs and admins) shows evidence of work similar do slavery (is not slavery conceptually, bc in slavery you "own" the person, but the condition of work is the same in the end) and existential damage, this classification is set when the work is done in a way that the working day is so big, exausting, that you cant live your life (do your things, leisure, personal plans, or other things that normal humans need to do). This would cause moral damage to be paid. There are other rights that need to be paid, like extra hours (the journey of work in brazil is 44h in a week), the salary, 13º, intra-day break, warning of been shut down by your job, vacation +1/3, "FGTS" (its like a insurance in case you go unenplyed) and other rights could be granted, like 20% more than the normal salary bc of the function accumulation. I was joking with my sister saying "man, this would be a big ass action and payments", and i did a calculation of the action in the program that the brazilian court give to us on a joke, but it was so big, so big that i started to "remove rights" to not be so big, and even removed the penaltys (if you never paid some things, you have to pay a penalty of 50% of this value), but even so the final value was around R$ 68000,00, (EUR 12381,70/ 13438,74 USD), wich is really big for a contract of only 10 months and i considered the minimun wage in brazil (THAT IS REALLY LOW, like 279 USD and 257 EUR). Good luck quackityy

dude this is so informative and formatted so well, how does this not have more views? you made a great video, i hope you know that :) beaucoup d’amour

This is a great video! You explained the situation very well while also maintaining humor so the video didn’t get too boring. I hope this gets fixed soon :)

Merci d'expliqué au monde, le nombre de discussion que j'ai eu avec des inter qui ne comprenais pas le problème. Bah maintenant je les enverrais sur ta vidéo (PS: merci d'avoir garder le nom des admin privé ils mérite la paix)

Thx for this I haven’t been too active on Twitter lately and noticed that the admins weren’t active I was a worried for them, I didn’t know anything about the French law but this vid help me a lot on understanding better the situation I hope they take there time on this situation. I hope the French admins amd the other admins get what they deserved without them qsmp wouldn’t be what it is today. (English is not my first language, hope this didn’t come out as being mean) lots of love to the French admins and the France community ❤😊

There is no QSMP without the admins. Even outside of France, it's unthinkable to not get paid for the amount of work they put, considering that they were doing it on a volunteer basis BUT with the explicit promise of a full-time paid job... which they never got, despite getting more and more responsibilities and hours demanded of them. Not requested, not "hey, if you have time." Demanded. So yeah... volunteering but under a false promise of a full-time job. Regardless of French laws, that's wrong and abusive. With French laws... it just gets really bad for Quackity Studio. And yeah, the leaked convo was about the server being DDOS'd. Now I'm from Quebec so I'm not too familiar with French, or American laws, but isn't there such a thing as a verbal contract? Or can a chat discussion about work conditions, salaries, etc. be considered as a legal contract? Is that a thing in France? I mean it's cool that France doesn't need a contract, but if the discussions about work can be brought in court and if it goes to court, that could be very helpful for the French admins. As for their NDA... yeah it's nothing but a cheap scare tactic with no legal weight, but it's certainly worth saying out loud. Great video and great english.

I am disappointed that the French admins who took part to keep this server alive though blood sweat and tears have been basically shafted by Quackity studios I hope they get justice and if any other admins have been getting mistreated I hope the same as well.

Merci énormément pour cette vidéo! C’est très important de rendre ce genre de situation accessible et compréhensive auprès du public qui ne s’y connaît pas forcément. J’espère que ça ouvrira les yeux de certains et que ça permettra d’améliorer les choses 🙏💕

Hey I love this video and your passion towards your county’s labor laws. I did find it irritating that the phrase “since the workers volunteered why would they getting paid “ being tossed around Quackitys fans/stans it just show how prasocial the Minecraft fanbases are recently which is why I don’t watch Minecraft streams anymore.

4:25 that was some excellent French support , now I don't speak French but I know that mierd is such a supporting word, GREAT JOB!

The 'creators talking to admins and that not being allowed' thing is so weird to me. 'Pomme' should be able to talk to Pierre, and I thought they were already with no issue. Mostly because I hear creators Like BadBoyHalo talk about how they messaged 'Richarlson,' or how 'Tallulah' sent Philza context for something or a meme.

I don't know shit about Minecraft, but as a fellow European I do know France and labour protection doesn't fuck around. And neither do their unions. If you told me this has a good chance of some RU-vidrs getting extradited for a prison sentence in France I wouldn't be surprised.

Cette vidéo est apparue dans mon fil yt, et elle est excellente ! Merci pour toutes ces explications légales ! Et quelle plaisir de voir que ce bon vieux code du travail permet encore de protéger les travailleurs et travailleuses 💪

Nice !! Merci pour les explications claire, il y a plein de détails que j'ignorais à propos du code du travail dit donc :)

Excelente video! Muchas gracias por informar sobre la ley de trabajo de Francia, creo que con este tipo de información muchos van a poder intentar combrender lo preocupante de la situación, ya que no es algo que se deberia de tomar a la ligera. Yo soy de Argentina y me parece una locura lo que les paso a los admins, pensé que por el tiempo que ellos llevan trabajando en el proyecto ya tendrian que ser trabajadores oficiales no voluntarios. Me parece muy bien que hayan expuesto su experiencia, al final parece que fue la unica forma para que se vean cambios en un futuro y otras personas no sufran lo mismo que ellos. Ya que siempre se vio como los admins trabajaban, siempre muy comprometidos y capaces, ya solo con ver un stream de algun creador podias ver como se desenvolvían los administradores de los huevos y ellos solo eran una parte de los administradores no todos ellos.

Je connais vite fait le monde des serveurs minecraft (plus traditionnel) et déjà je comprends pas comment c’est possible de prendre des bénévoles sur un projet aussi gros 🤨

thank u for giving us more info!

this was SO informative, and answered all my questions, QSMP and legalityy

super vidéo !! Merci d'avoir pris le temps de la faire pour expliquer la perspective française :D

Thank you for explaining in depth!! Very informative!

Tres bonne vidéo cheffe !

Super Vidéo ! Soutiens a tout les admins évidement ❤

Thank you for the explanation! I hope that the QSMP team and Quackity see’s this so they know what they should be doing

Merci pour la vidéo Nolwenn, c'est très instructif.

I loved how informative this video is! I was left wondering about one thing tho. As long as those three conditions are fulfilled, that person would be considered an employee even if they were told they are doing volunteer work right? Sorry as an American this is certainly different from how they do things here. In France I would be an employee but in America I am a volunteer lol

Your videos are sooooo interesting!!

Vídeo extraordinário e muito didático! Espero que a situação no servidor se resolva e os trabalhadores consigam a justiça e o salário que tanto merecem. Abraços do Brasil 🇧🇷 ❤

Hi! Thank you for this great & informative video! I've been wondering how French labor unions & laws are different from the US, so this has been very helpful. Hopefully this situation can be resolved soon and the admins fairly compensated! I am curious if there are any laws/rules about how unions have to reach out to businesses. It seems like they've just made tweets and press releases, and people on twitter think they need to email/contact him directly but a worker for the union said Quackity needs to reach out to them

Thank you for the explanation! Merci beaucoup !

incroyable !

Hi thank you for the video slightly off topic but as someone who lives in the U.S It’s actually impressive how much the French government protects its workers and well isn’t draining everything out of their workers in the U.S, people aren’t really protected form there employers if not at all only if you have enough money and or connections maybe you could win but for the regular person there’s not much protection as in work labors hopefully that can help explain a bit more of the U.S work system and how shitty it is it’s not an excuse but I’d help explain why some things are done differently than in France from protection in the U.S But I do agree that there should be changes and that they should be paid more as I’m writing this he made a stream in Spanish just saying that he’s working on it and how it’s a delicate problem and how I’ll take time for the project to return “back to normal” (as normal as they can be)but hopefully things will be fixed and that the old admin can get an apology at least for a accident

Thank you for explaining, realy apreasiate. I just want to point out that text on screen jumps around so much that there is no space to put subtitles. I have to pause the video and move them to read. But regardless, you did a fantastic job explaining it❤❤❤❤

Exposé super intéressant, merci ! Je me demande si la question du droit applicable ne pourrait pas poser plus de problème dans la mesure où le "lieu de travail" principal pourrait être considéré comme le serveur QSMP lui-même et donc le pays dans lequel sont situés les serveurs (les US peut-être?). Je pense un peu au cas des digital nomads: je ne pense pas (à tort peut-être) qu'ils changent de contrat de travail dès qu'ils changent de pays mais je ne sais pas si c'est encore une zone grise ou si la question a déjà été tranchée.

Merci pour cette vidéo ! Je suis français mais j’ai appris des trucs, très utile tout ça

Petite question : les droits du travail de quel pays s'applique-t-il ? Ceux du lieu où est basé l'entreprise (Quackity Studios, aux USA) ou ceux du lieu de résidence de l'employé (France) ? Peut-on dire dans cette situation que la condition de travail des admins va à l'encontre des droits de l'homme (article 24 et peut-etre 23 ?) ?

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In Brazil we call slavery analogous work. Unfortunately not so many people know that this exists. But I live in a region where the fight against it is comparatively common

Workers of the world of QSMP unite...

Thank you, this is a really informative video (sorry for bad english lol) (kisses from brazil

Merci d'avoir pris le temps d'expliquer ça en anglais ! (mon rêve d'avoir un aussi bon accent que toi)

merci, c'était cool a reguarder :D

Merci pour la vidéo, petite précision toutefois : Solidaires n'est pas une OS représentative, donc ne peut pas utiliser l'article L. 8223-4.

I was listening to this, Quackity has put out his own statement abt it on his vod channel ^^

2:51 no creo que esto es verdad, creo que fue una injusticia. roier (streamer mexicano) siempre habla con los admins y aveces pide cosas, y luego cellbit (streamer brasileño) siempre habla con el admin de richarlyson (el huevo) afuera del qsmp y nunca había un problema, especialmente que los dos habla siempre de eso en sus directos. espero que todo sea arreglado pronto. gracias por este video! ayudó a entender todo xd

Well this is fucking sad. That admin who stole all the money really fucked it up for everyone involved

Enjoy the islands Aimer l’île svp

Pouvez-vous élaborer sur le rôle du syndicat? Twitter dit qu'ils n'ont pas contacté Quackity, mais qu'ils s'attendent qu'il les contacte. Doivent-ils essayer négocier avant d'entrer une procédure judiciaire ?

Holy so much happen just because of a Minecraft server

Je confirme pour l'expression de sa maman ! 😂😂

Le pseudo (nom?) est tellement breton qu'il m'a fait sentir le beurre salé en le lisant

t'aurais du dire qu'un contrat même tacite est un contrat

So this would only apply to workers from France right? Which we know right now is obly the admin for Pomme. Outside of her we dont need admins drom France. Juat admin that speak French. So any French speaking country should be fine. Also the union can only advocate for her. So if Pomme is all sorted then this issue is fixed. It wpuld not be fair to pay the french a higher wage just because they are Europeans. All admins ahpuls be paid ao ita best to find french speakers outside of france

None of this applies is they've agreed to work on a volunteer basis without salary. This is pretty fundamental, and you never cover this. You just say that although they agreed to work without expectation of payment or contract, that this condition is fulfilled, even though it clearly isn't in this case based on your own statements. From Quackity's own videos it seems some may have had agreed pay, or expectations of future paid work, in which case French law might apply to them if they are working in France, but of course France can't impose any settlement on a foreign company or individual anyway (unless they travel to France or possibly the wider EU). QSMP is run at a loss, so the challenge to volunteer roles is very likely to be terminal, at least to their activities. One solution, might be for creators to pay the running costs (infrastructure/admin salaries/translation fees), out of their streaming revenues (the profit the server generates). This may be a model for a future content platform. The admins seemed to enjoy their work and the viewers certainly did, so it's a shame this situation has arisen. It sounds like admin relations have been managed very badly and self destructively, undermining the great steps the QSMP project has made to bring the world together. I hope they sort it out.

A ver, sí el video es informativo sobre el tema laboral y todo eso. Pero aquí surge la verdadera pregunta. Sí la cantidad ofrecida es baja para su estándar, ¿por qué se quedó? ¿Acaso no era simple retirarse? Se queja que sus dibujos no fueron pagados ¿Y así se siguió quedando? Aquí hay algo más oculto y sobre lo que otros ex admins dijeron hay cosas que difiero un montón. Todos los voluntarios, porque se sabía que el trabajo era voluntario, podían irse desde el principio. Nadie los obligó a estar ahí o postularse. No hubo engaño en el formulario que llenaron, que ellos hayan interpretado otra cosa es diferente.

La video est dans l'ensemble vraiment intéressante. Par contre j'ai pas du tout aimé le tacle déguisé à l'encontre d'Aypierre. Il sagirait de faire preuve de compréhension car ce n'est pas un streamer aussi gros que les autres membres de QSMP et donc c'est compréhensible quils continue de TRAVAILLER (sans pour autant êtreen accord avec ce qu'ilse passe).

La idea principal del qsmp era unir comunidades para demostrar que todos somos iguales. Bueno, creo que quackity fracaso respecto a eso al incluirlos a ustedes ( brasileños y franceses) porque siempre hubo una buena química entre españoles e ingleses y jamas paso algo de esta magnitud de querer meter leyes o alegatos a un simple servidor de minecraft. Además las leyes historicamente siempre han sido una porquería en la mayoría de paises para tenerlo como si fuera una biblia moral.