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After France's election twist, James O'Brien speaks to Paris Bureau Chief for The Economist, Sophie Pedder.
A Left wing coalition has topped the French election, but they failed to win outright majority in a bruising night for Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen.
National Rally leader Le Pen had been slated to win a majority ahead of the vote but a late surge for the left and a return to popularity for President Emmanuel Macron saw the forecast results turned on their head.
Sophie Pedder tells James O'Brien that Emmanuel Macron 'has not emerged stronger' on the other side of his 'election gamble', as she analyses the results.
Sophie Pedder also draws attention to Emmanuel Macron's loss of 'about 100 deputies', which came as a shock to many.
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@MMenance
@MMenance 21 день назад
Goes to show what the Left is capable of, if only they postpone their infighting until AFTER the election 😅
@thezeronelite
@thezeronelite 21 день назад
Being a hard left type myself, this is completely true
@jaisriram295
@jaisriram295 21 день назад
​@@thezeronelitesorry who won the popular vote?
@steplu2916
@steplu2916 21 день назад
​@@thezeronelite is it the tradition of the left to fight among themselves?
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 21 день назад
Le Pen had a much stepper hill to climb. The lefts coalition won't last long.
@patrickvernon4766
@patrickvernon4766 21 день назад
Not just left but conservatives center right and fake right
@sammy532
@sammy532 21 день назад
French here. The analyst got one thing wrong : the left alliance mostly disagrees on the form(especially on foreign relations) but they got along on most issues in their manifesto : pensions, tax, anti racism, increase of minimum wages, ecological transition (except on nuclear energy), Gaza, Ukraine, etc. They’re actually the only political offer that had a wide and very complete manifesto.
@TheDropdeadZed
@TheDropdeadZed 20 дней назад
Doesn't surprise me. The stupidest left wing politician is still usually smarter than the best the right wing have to offer.
@criticalThinkerLad
@criticalThinkerLad 20 дней назад
To call working class people far right whilst the privallaged and disgruntled preach to the masses of morility is the reality of this sitituation
@xaviertrujillo506
@xaviertrujillo506 20 дней назад
@@criticalThinkerLadmany of the left bloc voters were working class, the far right supporters were all wearing fancy suits and tuxedos and macron voters tend to be quite middle class
@eveningstar7812
@eveningstar7812 20 дней назад
@@criticalThinkerLadnobody is calling the working class far right. We are calling the dummies far right. If you conflate the two things that speaks to your own classism.
@StanleyKubick1
@StanleyKubick1 20 дней назад
@@criticalThinkerLad *privileged *morality *situation (you should critically think about cracking a book)
@Keln02
@Keln02 21 день назад
To resume the french system: First round, you vote for the guy you like. Second round, you kick out the guy you like the least
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 21 день назад
Yes, I like this. I summarise it that way: 2nd round is confirmation+correction.
@craphead9842
@craphead9842 20 дней назад
Rigged.... Tony cuenca
@yann664
@yann664 20 дней назад
First round you make a protest vote, then you look at who is likely to win and make a vote that you feel matters.
@Paul_Ward
@Paul_Ward 20 дней назад
Two rounds makes sense. It gives apathetic voters the chance to see what could happen if they don't exercise their right to vote.
@leon45sant
@leon45sant 21 день назад
Omg their system prevents vote splitting it's genius. Like ranked choice.
@jean-marcknight8816
@jean-marcknight8816 21 день назад
It's not perfect but it allows you to speak your mind first then make your final decision based on what is left.
@agt155
@agt155 21 день назад
@@jean-marcknight8816 Le Pen won a higher vote share second time.
@TheDropdeadZed
@TheDropdeadZed 20 дней назад
Their system is still pretty bad. It's basically still FPTP and with a split vote in the 1st round the 2nd round doesn't narrow up hugely. Ranked choice voting or even doing a straight up top 2 finisher runoff would be better.
@kjh4496
@kjh4496 20 дней назад
@@agt155And she was defeated by the people voting. Democracy prevailed.
@FionaJane-vc2tw
@FionaJane-vc2tw 21 день назад
Can we all just celebrate that this shows the majority do not want the toxicity of people like Le Pen's and Farage's politics.
@kevinwilliams1421
@kevinwilliams1421 21 день назад
Or the French have been replaced
@craigedwards7062
@craigedwards7062 21 день назад
​@kevinwilliams1421 looked more like residents from a 3rd world country than French people in vids I've seen😂😂
@pauls3204
@pauls3204 21 день назад
Not the right who are rioting mate
@missrose0077
@missrose0077 21 день назад
The Euro has taken a nice upward bounce since Francis election results.
@danielbarrass4402
@danielbarrass4402 21 день назад
You will become like the middle east, dangerous and divided
@mysteriousfox88
@mysteriousfox88 21 день назад
high turnouts always swing left
@django3422
@django3422 21 день назад
Because the vast majority of people, at its most fundamental, will always choose freedom.
@Light-lp8rn
@Light-lp8rn 21 день назад
Out of the top five voter turnouts in the U.K three have been conservative and two Labour. In France the top five voter turnouts saw three right wing parties win, 1 left wing, and 1 centrist.
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 21 день назад
@@Light-lp8rn Thank you, interesting stats.
@kanglongshankz3313
@kanglongshankz3313 20 дней назад
@@django3422 NR had 3 million more votes than anyone else, 'vast majority' should be substituted for electoral system.
@django3422
@django3422 20 дней назад
@@kanglongshankz3313 But not more than everyone else combined.
@darrena2625
@darrena2625 21 день назад
Thank goodness the majority of the French still remember/recall what happened the last time the far-right came into power with their neighbour, Germany.
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 21 день назад
Yet Marine Le Pen's party (which is the one I guess you're calling "far right" although it's not) got more votes than any other. Weird that!
@Paragon62
@Paragon62 21 день назад
You surrendered
@darrena2625
@darrena2625 21 день назад
@@Paragon62 I'm a Brit, so, no
@danielbarrass4402
@danielbarrass4402 21 день назад
There's nothing far right about wanting to protect culture and boards. Have you seen the violence from the left
@kanglongshankz3313
@kanglongshankz3313 20 дней назад
NR got 3 million more votes than anyone else so it's not quite 'the French' but the tactical voting in accordance with the electoral system which worked.
@wraith7707
@wraith7707 21 день назад
Cant believe a Centrist actually DID something and didnt just sit around validating actual facists. Well done France
@jayr9952
@jayr9952 21 день назад
When that happens here you can be sure James O'Brien will do a complete 180 and announce we should give Farage a chance.
@joee8278
@joee8278 21 день назад
@@jayr9952 what makes you say that?
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 21 день назад
@@jayr9952 Based on what?????
@HenriNioto
@HenriNioto 20 дней назад
Actually, all Macron did during the last two years is to get closer and closer to the NR... He just used the Republican Front as a way to win more seats at the National Assembly. I expect absolutely no principles from this man, at this point...
@RextheRebel
@RextheRebel 20 дней назад
The "actual fascists" were Frances only hope for survival. Now the country is doomed..
@paulstewart6293
@paulstewart6293 21 день назад
On a fait la fête hier soir ! Crushing the faschos is the priority!!
@Trekfanwanda
@Trekfanwanda 21 день назад
Congratulations to you all in France. Take lessons America!
@oan__
@oan__ 21 день назад
Mon frère 🤝
@supereliptic
@supereliptic 21 день назад
Well done from Ireland! Great result!
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 19 дней назад
What facism? The only facism came from the far-left when they threw a tantrum after the first round and decided to riot
@brianferguson7840
@brianferguson7840 21 день назад
The sun has risen on a freshly laundered Labour country. Ahh, the smell of freshly baked Thick sliced Competence, generously spread with integrity !
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 21 день назад
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@samasoku
@samasoku 21 день назад
Thats a nice fantasy but in reality nothing changed
@rb1062
@rb1062 21 день назад
Shows how little ypu know about France or who these people are.
@gourkernow5694
@gourkernow5694 21 день назад
​@@samasokubut unfair considering its been in for just 3 days so far. Or do you have a crystal ball?
@samasoku
@samasoku 21 день назад
@@gourkernow5694 he said freshly laundered. nothing is laundered. if anything, you only changed the washmachine settings. lol
@user-em6ie2be7x
@user-em6ie2be7x 21 день назад
LePenn's already crying it was stolen, it was rigged...Take your L with some dignity Lady.
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 21 день назад
Dignity isnt really her thing
@MMAGamblingTips
@MMAGamblingTips 21 день назад
Sounds like an orange man I know here in the states. 😅
@Gachavslife
@Gachavslife 21 день назад
It was rigged.. By popular vote she won.. But again duplicate democracy in play
@user-nc2qj2jc5q
@user-nc2qj2jc5q 21 день назад
Same as Trumpistas 😂
@jimwest7107
@jimwest7107 21 день назад
That's not accurate. She has said RN is now stronger yet again but that tactical voting stopped RN winning.
@MarkKrebs
@MarkKrebs 21 день назад
Frustration with the French system is entirely out of place. It's quite close to rank choice voting and gave the best possible result because of (& thank goodness for) the agreements for the third place candidate to stand down. ...and imagine the disaster, otherwise. If you take a non-partisan view you would have to agree that the outcome preferred by most has transpired.
@philippenachtergal6077
@philippenachtergal6077 21 день назад
Yeah. When the choice presented is "Far right" or "anything else", most French people are still choosing "anything else". There is nothing undemocratic in the "republican alliance" that took place because the choice offered was clearly that. The RN isn't a collateral victim of an alliance, they are the explicit losers of a clear choice presented to the voters. (And they didn't really object to the anticipated elections before the final results so any criticism of that now is just hypocrisy)
@hurri7720
@hurri7720 21 день назад
There is only one outdated out of place system in western Europe, the British system.
@TheDropdeadZed
@TheDropdeadZed 20 дней назад
@@philippenachtergal6077 If the RN wanted to win in the 2nd round, maybe they shouldn't hold political views that are so toxic to the majority of the French that they are unable to make political allies and even encourage their opponents to rally together to oppose them? Sounds like a skill issue to me!
@grahamepigney8565
@grahamepigney8565 21 день назад
I still can't see why this is such a shock. The French have been down this tactical voting route many times before in Presidential and Assembly elections with voters "holding their nose" and casting votes to keep the Rassemblement National (formerly the Front National) out. The worry has to be the growing support for the RN in the face of poor economic performance, concerns about immigration and unemployment levels. The next problem is that La France Insoumise, led by Jean-Luc Mélenchon, is not very popular either and the centreright through to the centre-left won't work with LFI or RN.
@brianferguson7840
@brianferguson7840 21 день назад
IT'S NOT A SHOCK HERE IN FRANCE 🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵 Nobody takes any notice of the Premier tour 🙄 And nobody expected the deuxiem tour to reflect the result. It hasn't done so for 50 years. Typical british media, can't even get the translation of le Penn's party correct F.F.S.😂😂
@ricaredi
@ricaredi 21 день назад
Cry more!
@brianferguson7840
@brianferguson7840 21 день назад
​​​@@ricaredi Cry ??? Because WE SOCIALISTS WON ?? 🤔🤔 Whats to Cry about.
@davidgaskin5417
@davidgaskin5417 21 день назад
Thank you! I am surprised at how all the world media is saying " surprise result! ". As soon as there was talk about the left and centre coming together to manipulate the results, this was always going to happen.
@James_08_07
@James_08_07 21 день назад
@@davidgaskin5417 Where else has the left and centre ever come together?! The surprise is justified because it's such a rare event globally.
@davidgaskin5417
@davidgaskin5417 21 день назад
@@James_08_07 it's not that surprising for french politics. The centre wanted to keep power and the left sniffed a chance to claw back some ground that had been destroyed ( ironically by the centre government).
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 21 день назад
France 2 Nazi's 0
@user-is1if8vg5m
@user-is1if8vg5m 21 день назад
Thank goodness 🙏
@rb1062
@rb1062 21 день назад
Oh, grow up!
@francesco245
@francesco245 21 день назад
M0R0N
@francesco245
@francesco245 21 день назад
R34arded much, cI_Int?
@francesco245
@francesco245 21 день назад
@@user-is1if8vg5m m0r0n
@Regenmacher175
@Regenmacher175 21 день назад
Lots of left-wing candidates stood down in constituencies where they were in third place. Can't say the same for all of the Ensemble candidates who were in third place but at least the RN was not able to get an absolute majority. Strategic voting for the win. However, the RN should not be given the space to grow its movement, which means the NFP needs to fight harder and in united fashion for workers' rights and against the bigoty and hatred coming from the far-right. Sadly, between 2022 and now, nearly double the number of people voted for the RN and their reactionary talking points have made it into mainstream political discourse in France. It will take many years to undo this.
@DavidWalter-gz8ue
@DavidWalter-gz8ue 21 день назад
It's because the Right wing media keep lying about Thier reports. Think about it, no french Citizen worth their salt would ever put another Viche into power ever again, after what happen with the Nazis, during the 2nd world War.
@khairulhelmihashim2510
@khairulhelmihashim2510 21 день назад
economic prosperity is the key. far right politic thrives in economic uncertainty, seeking to place a blame on minorities.
@davidgaskin5417
@davidgaskin5417 21 день назад
What is the great danger about the NR? I really don't know enough about french politics but it does feel that they have been painted with this far right label but I can't see why.
@TheDropdeadZed
@TheDropdeadZed 20 дней назад
All thanks to Macron and the centrists not actually offering a real alternative to the dogshit "solutions" the RN are proposing. And of course Macron and his allies are turning their noses up at the idea of working with the left, who might actually offer an alternative vision for France that would minimise Le Pen's support.
@eyokirvideos7400
@eyokirvideos7400 21 день назад
When you unite, you can defeat evil. A lesson to be learned for sure
@ThomasS-jf9kf
@ThomasS-jf9kf 21 день назад
A lesson that I hope we Americans can learn from you!
@friendlybgaming5882
@friendlybgaming5882 21 день назад
​@@ThomasS-jf9kf Trump 2024 👍
@user-bq7jp2tn8u
@user-bq7jp2tn8u 21 день назад
True. The Islamic conquest of the west is right on schedule.
@Maelstromme
@Maelstromme 21 день назад
@@friendlybgaming5882You’re subscribed to a pdf-file.
@rb1062
@rb1062 21 день назад
Maybe have a close look at just what sort of coalition has taken power and their policies before you comment!
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 21 день назад
The French LEFT didn't defeat anyone. The WHOLE of the French electorate (Le Front Républicain) defeated Fascism . 🇫🇷🇪🇺 (Our seat went extreme right in the first round 😮.)
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 21 день назад
Were you living in vichy France or close to the border
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 21 день назад
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 Vichy France ended on 11th November 1942. Keep up child 🚸. I'm French and live in the Hérault (have done all year since February 1989).
@simulationkoyo
@simulationkoyo 21 день назад
France united as a whole to defeat the fascists.
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 21 день назад
@@simulationkoyo +1 thanks for agreeing with me. 👍
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 21 день назад
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 What exaclty do you know about Vichy France? Not very much based on your post.
@meumnomen
@meumnomen 21 день назад
The trend recently is just call it rigged and unfair if you lost because you couldn't possibly lose because no one wants your policies 😅
@ct5625
@ct5625 21 день назад
They have to claim it's rigged otherwise they would have to admit the majority of their online audience is made of Russian and Chinese bot accounts.
@kevinsmarts9953
@kevinsmarts9953 20 дней назад
It was nice to see so many Tories not fall into that trap.
@kanglongshankz3313
@kanglongshankz3313 20 дней назад
'No one' they had the largest share of the vote. You have the electoral system to thank.
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 19 дней назад
"no one wants France to remain French." Ok have fun.
@GeensQuambit
@GeensQuambit 21 день назад
Just right wingers continuing their L streak 😂
@lasttempoinparis
@lasttempoinparis 21 день назад
52 years since its inception and going ! 😅
@woofolliesmydog8628
@woofolliesmydog8628 21 день назад
You clearly don’t understand how this all works. But you will, as we watch the whole of France turn into Marseille and the UK into Luton or Bradford.
@premierboxinghighlights3608
@premierboxinghighlights3608 21 день назад
@@woofolliesmydog8628that will never happen mate.
@Priority76
@Priority76 21 день назад
@@woofolliesmydog8628 Awe, you all sad cause the fascists didn't win?😥
@simulationkoyo
@simulationkoyo 21 день назад
same as in Britain. Total incompetence and circus from the far right.
@KaiserSaucy
@KaiserSaucy 21 день назад
Shame we didn’t have a two round election system for Brexit…
@Youalleatmuffins
@Youalleatmuffins 21 день назад
Give it time, there will be a way....
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 21 день назад
“Second choice” is probably a faster way to do basically the same thing. “This is my ideal but if they don’t win, I am willing to compromise with my compatriots, so this alternative is closest to my values/needs” - I actually think that “second choice” is even more democratic because at times you have to compromise and go with your second best choice that other of your compatriots also potentially compromise on.
@clownofthetimes6727
@clownofthetimes6727 21 день назад
@@Youalleatmuffins Labour says no.The UK will never accept freedom of movement again. Freedom of movement meant the poorest within UK`s society stayed poor.
@Weakeyedominant
@Weakeyedominant 21 день назад
Brexit only had 2 choices. The whole point of the double ballot is to try to narrow it down to 2 choices.
@Dacheerio
@Dacheerio 21 день назад
dude, move on its been 8 years.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 21 день назад
Allies 1 Axis 0
@ffsno9078
@ffsno9078 21 день назад
Allies 2 Axis 0 The left took back uk
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 20 дней назад
Another one that has drank the kool-aide of the MSM propoganda
@tmcdowell5986
@tmcdowell5986 20 дней назад
Rural Pennsylvania here. Thank you James. Things are getting interesting. Shove Left.
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 21 день назад
This just shows the lunacy of proportional representation in its current format. There is now a power vacuum in France which doesn't benefit anyone in the country.
@whererosemaryflourishes
@whererosemaryflourishes 20 дней назад
I'm an Australian-French citizen and live in Marseille. You can add me to the 'relieved' list. My opinion is that Macron knew what he was doing. This was no mistake and the outcome is pretty much the best he could hope for (and probably predicted) given a political climate that is largely against him and his style of governing/narcissicism. His party performed second best when few seemed to imagine that was possible. Including moi.
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 20 дней назад
Let me guess you're either a green or Labor voter 😂
@patricequinn7733
@patricequinn7733 19 дней назад
Congratulations on your upset victory,but retirement at 60??????????What does that do to the economy?
@mcnetchaiev
@mcnetchaiev 20 дней назад
It's not actually a shock, because the French system isn't FPTP meaning all the other parties allied against the RN in the second round (something known as the "Front républicain"). What is worrying is that the far right gets over a third of the vote share but fortunately in a direct face-off against any other candidate, 1/3 of the vote means you lose more often than not. The RN is at an all-time high but they are still some way off getting into power despite going from 88 to 140 something seats. No pasaran!
@scarletpimpernel353
@scarletpimpernel353 20 дней назад
Marie le Pen. :far right ?? > wrong description... " right of the middle " - as for extremism...I would quote the Far Left as extremists ! Looking at what they have done ..We will now see an ideologically fractured France.
@MrPireotis
@MrPireotis 21 день назад
I am pretty sure that Sophie is very sad that the Tories were demolished... Yes, pretty sure!
@TheBarnster75
@TheBarnster75 21 день назад
The BBC said this could well happen so i don't think its a shock. But everything needs to be hyped these days to give the media something to bang on about.
@dibdab101
@dibdab101 21 день назад
exactly that. I am French and I was convinced that the shy voters would sense the danger and would come out en masse to reject the far right. And I was proven right. not exactly a surprise...but relieved all the same.
@kyecypress
@kyecypress 21 день назад
There is no equivalent to the French Left in the UK .... Macrons alliance is more aligned with the UK Labour party
@Leogunner2
@Leogunner2 20 дней назад
Real democxracy, avoiding things like leaving the EU and allowing a clown to gain power. Think on.
@user-sf7kl9uh7k
@user-sf7kl9uh7k 18 дней назад
They're all going to retire at 55!
@user-ol6rd7pl5t
@user-ol6rd7pl5t 21 день назад
Well done to the French Risistence .
@James_08_07
@James_08_07 21 день назад
The French system makes so much sense.
@skreety0455
@skreety0455 20 дней назад
The dumbest press loves"divided".😂😂
@golach420
@golach420 21 день назад
3-way candidates in the second round is actually relatively rare.
@anugranmathimugan2778
@anugranmathimugan2778 21 день назад
Very interesting outsiders like this lady view it as a shock because Auclair and other French predicted this a week or two ago.
@lasttempoinparis
@lasttempoinparis 21 день назад
Our _Republican Reflex_ ... nuttin' new 😊
@DenkyManner
@DenkyManner 21 день назад
Before an election you can find people who will predict every outcome. Drawing a line back to the ones who were right after the result says nothing. No one knows the future. La Penn herself was certain she'd take power and was shocked. Hindsight is 20/20
@ansc6472
@ansc6472 18 дней назад
Goodbye France
@VaucluseVanguard
@VaucluseVanguard 20 дней назад
This comparison of Melenchon with Corbyn is nonsense. Melenchon is closer to someone like Lenin. Corbyn for all his faults is a democrat; Melenchon is not.
@donalobrien7582
@donalobrien7582 21 день назад
O'B Please, go and get yourself a Job & don't forget to call into the Shrink. Any Chance of a Bar
@kaira9094
@kaira9094 21 день назад
So much for that rise of the Right wing in Europe eh? haha
@sparks1792
@sparks1792 21 день назад
They have 150 seats. Also the Left has to lead for 3 years with no majority. They’ll be more unpopular in the end because they can’t govern.
@jackhewitt600
@jackhewitt600 21 день назад
Netherlands, Belgium and Germany all on the rise.
@kevlivinginabox
@kevlivinginabox 21 день назад
Right wing are the loud minority
@Minimmalmythicist
@Minimmalmythicist 21 день назад
Oh the far right is getting bigger, the FN have never had so many MPs.
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 21 день назад
Don't count your chickens till they've hatched
@Jin420
@Jin420 21 день назад
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@hbowman108
@hbowman108 20 дней назад
Of course they aren't going to do much for a while. Les grandes vacances are France's leading national institution. Nothing gets done in August, as it should be.
@edwardargles9329
@edwardargles9329 20 дней назад
Why aren’t they called the “far left”?
@zenster1097
@zenster1097 18 дней назад
Because they're not. Just because these idts (yes I misspelled purposefully because of youtube) think everything is far-right doesn't mean the other side is far-left.
@ShawnMatheson-rw5xm
@ShawnMatheson-rw5xm 16 дней назад
Because they're not communists. Anyone who believes in capitalism is not "far left"
@transvestosaurus878
@transvestosaurus878 21 день назад
most French outcome
@mickjenner6697
@mickjenner6697 21 день назад
French left ??? So not far left , left , left of center and center, green , red , conglomeration
@kevinsmarts9953
@kevinsmarts9953 20 дней назад
France is only ever 3 colours.
@jazzx251
@jazzx251 20 дней назад
That's what it takes to resist fascism
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 19 дней назад
The only display of facism came from the far-left. They're the ones that rioted and threw a tantrum when they didn't get their way in the first round.
@philippenachtergal6077
@philippenachtergal6077 21 день назад
"days if not weeks" before a new government. Gee, if that was Belgium it would be "months if not years"... But yeah, they could setup a technocratic government relatively quickly. I don't see a majority coalition government in a matter of weeks.
@philippenachtergal6077
@philippenachtergal6077 21 день назад
Copy of what I wrote on Phil's channel: To have a majority government would requires Macron and his allies to ally with the left. But I don't see the communist part of the left joining that and, more importantly in terms of seats, Melanchon has expressed his strong opposition to the idea. A center-left government requires la france insoumise (Melanchon's party) to reach a majority so unless Melanchon changes his mind , which is unlikely, or his party splits (not just the NFP coalition but his actual party) which is also unlikely, it cannot be a majority government. You could imagine a national union with the center, the conventional right and part of the left (without the communists and la France insoumise) but that also seems very hard to setup. I also don't see any risk of the center joining the far-right given their position during the second turn of the elections. So we seems headed for a technocratic minority government. No matter what option, it will be hard to defeat the far right in the next elections because it will be hard for the country to make many political progresses in the current circumstances. Too much of the medias are in right wing border far right hands.
@lasttempoinparis
@lasttempoinparis 21 день назад
May I remind you that Northern Ireland holds the European Record far ahead of Belgium. 😏
@artistreality
@artistreality 21 день назад
I don't agree with her politics BUT let's not pretend the left and right didn't use in my opinion undemocratic means to make sure it didn't happen. That's why if Britain ever has Proportional representational voting it must be illegal to stand down candidates in areas to attempt to keep out a party. I called this out when Farage did the same to not split the vote with Boris Johnson. All you do is breed anger at the electoral system. Look at Britain today, 80% of eligible voters didn't vote for Labour and not a peep from my side of the political spectrum on the left. Yet if that was the Tories my side would be demanding reform to the voting system.
@gourkernow5694
@gourkernow5694 21 день назад
Labour members are mostly pro PR, none of the tory party are. So if you get it, it will be Labour that implement it after a referendum, most likely in a second term if they get one.
@cynthiabarrow509
@cynthiabarrow509 17 дней назад
Did they steal it?
@ganrimmonim
@ganrimmonim 21 день назад
I would make a comment about unwise election timings and a disunited nation. However, "those who live in glass houses..."
@michaelmccarthy9411
@michaelmccarthy9411 21 день назад
I don't see any surprise in this. French elections are always decided in the second round!
@malcolmmitchell6529
@malcolmmitchell6529 21 день назад
If you don't care, don't go on air.
@anthonymichaelwilson8401
@anthonymichaelwilson8401 21 день назад
Incredible 😊
@meneurdujeu
@meneurdujeu 21 день назад
Looked end of the day, the voting system is waaaaay better than in the UK. You get through the second round, and a majority has to be won in the run off. I don't understand why anybody thought the silent majority wouldn't back any opposition to the far-right. Can I just say that is horrendously repressed Scottish accent - you're Scottish, let it go.
@MalTimeTV
@MalTimeTV 20 дней назад
The broad church left coalition that the analyst refers to here does have its disagreements (particularly over France's NATO membership, reform of European institutions, and the role of nuclear energy in the green transition) but it also has a powerful shared program (particularly around reversing Macron's recent welfare and retirement 'reforms', the implementation of green transition policies, moving France to a system of proportional representation, anti-racism etc). So, personally, I wouldn't get carried away on the differences for now.
@johnclifford544
@johnclifford544 21 день назад
The French populace, after all their disagreements, realize that Russia, China and the other dictatorships in the world are not utopias.
@7QHook
@7QHook 21 день назад
but Isl*m is ? lol
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 21 день назад
What?
@jimseltzer2002
@jimseltzer2002 21 день назад
How do you come to that vacuous conclusion. ? just a loose grouping of anarchists, islamists and student agitators. Watch what they do.
@Dave-qx3yz
@Dave-qx3yz 21 день назад
Yes, the ne thing they have in common is the are Communist LEFT WING dictatorships, just like France
@dennisduncan7561
@dennisduncan7561 21 день назад
Who said they were?
@Rich-ng3yy
@Rich-ng3yy 21 день назад
In Macron's presidential election he won on the second ballot despite not having a staggering support in the first. The centre right and the centre and the left came together to back a not stunningly popular choice against extremism and the second ballot got him elected. The first and second ballots are always very different. This was not a presidential election but his party stood and he is now even more unpopular so there were always going to be a certain number of people who gold their noses and vote le penn as she feigns respectability. The second ballot with less candidates is always very different when faced with a stark choice between le penn and anything else... She has her base supporters plus the remaining nose holders vs a widely disliked Macron's party.. more nose holding and an alternative centrist and left and far left coalition. It isn't all that suprising that centre left supporters felt ok to join the left where they disliked Macron and had to vote against le penn. If Britain had done the same in the 'Brexit election' before this one then Britain would not have had Brexit without a second referendum and the chaos and incompetence and ecconomics of the last term of office. I don't think what happened in france was all that shocking if you're outide the too close to the problem media. It's more a relief than anything else.
@SiriusMined
@SiriusMined 21 день назад
The left and Center left have plenty in common. I don't think it's going to be as divided as everyone thinks
@SenorPenor1337
@SenorPenor1337 21 день назад
I'm centre-left and I don't want the left in power. Communism doesn't work (we need regulated capitalism) and the left want to leave the EU.
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 20 дней назад
It's not just left and centre left. Waving communist flags is nothing less than far left
@st.george007
@st.george007 21 день назад
Is North Korea an example of an undivided state?
@sirloin8745
@sirloin8745 21 день назад
What about the Judean People's Front?
@StaggerLee1468
@StaggerLee1468 21 день назад
@@sirloin8745 SPLITTERS!!
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 21 день назад
France closes in August every year 😊.
@SuperFree06
@SuperFree06 21 день назад
And in spite all the electoral chaos in both Britain and France - rank order preferential voting is still rejected by the political geniuses in both countries.
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 21 день назад
Don't you just love politics in Italy. 😉
@SuperFree06
@SuperFree06 20 дней назад
@@MrPhantom1961 Rank order preferential is not proportional. It requires the winning candidate to be preferred by more than 50% of voters.
@bencarter8238
@bencarter8238 16 дней назад
Macrons wife is a lovely man 😃
@Toto-cl8rw
@Toto-cl8rw 21 день назад
This is the best news ever, La Penn and her far right party lost 100 seats. She does not represent the majority thus was rejected. The French public voiced their opinion in votes.
@agt155
@agt155 21 день назад
What you mean lost 100 seats? They gained 60 seats and had the highest vote share.
@Toto-cl8rw
@Toto-cl8rw 21 день назад
@@agt155 show me. I need verification.
@Toto-cl8rw
@Toto-cl8rw 21 день назад
@@agt155 if they had the highest vote share they would not be in third place. The vote shows the La Penn party had a very small vote share.
@agt155
@agt155 21 день назад
@@Toto-cl8rw RN (Le Pen) 38% NFP 25% En 24% They are lying to you.
@Toto-cl8rw
@Toto-cl8rw 21 день назад
@@agt155 actually it was NPF 32.6 % En 27.9
@TheWaveGoodbye-Music
@TheWaveGoodbye-Music 21 день назад
See what happens james when you centerists side with your socialist allies instead of engaging in footballification (which O'Brien constantly says he doesn't do) you could've helped keep Boris and Sunak out but you opted for footballification and partisan poltics. Something of which he accuses the left of quite a lot
@Fredric_Cedrich
@Fredric_Cedrich 21 день назад
Where are all the weird accounts with two names followed by a serial number?
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 20 дней назад
Like mine?
@marcusalkemade5994
@marcusalkemade5994 21 день назад
Love you, France! 🇫🇷
@markgoestofrankfurt
@markgoestofrankfurt 21 день назад
Farago: But but its a stitchup by the establishment , i hate democratic elections
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 21 день назад
Who's Farago?
@markgoestofrankfurt
@markgoestofrankfurt 20 дней назад
@@MrPhantom1961 farage
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 19 дней назад
Coming from the side that have more elections until they win and riot when they lose 💀💀 ..or win, for that matter. Backwards bunch.😊
@Frederique41
@Frederique41 21 день назад
Mélanchon is not an extremist and it is not a miracle that the left has won. Mélanchon has been around for a long time and has been campaigning with or without the other lefties. All lefties talk to one another despite the lack of understanding on some subjects. Being diverse does not mean being divided!
@jimseltzer2002
@jimseltzer2002 21 день назад
Watch what happens. He seems as bright as Mark Drakeford.
@SenorPenor1337
@SenorPenor1337 21 день назад
He wants to leave the EU. He is bad news.
@cycleguy1943
@cycleguy1943 17 дней назад
France- ISTAN😮
@donmcmillan4388
@donmcmillan4388 20 дней назад
Hopefully America elects the right King.
@manco828
@manco828 21 день назад
Le Pen humiliation?
@mu6qy
@mu6qy 21 день назад
Take a drink evertime they say 'FaR RigHT'
@mohammadhaider8946
@mohammadhaider8946 21 день назад
What makes you disdainful of them defining what they define as far right? You don't agree with the definition?
@SenorPenor1337
@SenorPenor1337 21 день назад
​@@mohammadhaider8946the far right and extremists hate being called to far right and extremists
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 20 дней назад
​@SenorPenor1337 the extremism came from the rioting far-left as per usual. Though I know leftists prefer to ignore this.
@daveyboy7964
@daveyboy7964 20 дней назад
Two down....Trump to go!!! Vive La France!
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 19 дней назад
I'll bet these things are true: you don't know what a woman is, you're young, you never owned a house, you don't have a skilled job.
@daveyboy7964
@daveyboy7964 19 дней назад
@@SonBarbock you’ve got no idea…. Have ya?
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 19 дней назад
@@daveyboy7964 I have ya. And some extra paint also if you want to add it to your clown makeup.
@stevejam767
@stevejam767 21 день назад
Its a deal not a victory.
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 21 день назад
Correct!
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 21 день назад
And what is wrong with that?
@jayr9952
@jayr9952 21 день назад
It's a very divided Britain
@emillion4470
@emillion4470 21 день назад
Europe's Right Wing Fever broke - next up, America.
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 19 дней назад
That why the RN is gaining more and more seats?
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 21 день назад
What a great news this morning - the pendulum is swinging back from the extreme right towards the center - see Britain and now France. Don´t forget Poland before too.
@rb1062
@rb1062 21 день назад
Until you find out what an extreme left government will do to you.
@jimseltzer2002
@jimseltzer2002 21 день назад
It isn't over until it is. A shallow temporary victory which will be rapidly eroded by events.
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 21 день назад
@@jimseltzer2002 yeah maybe but for now its a huge success
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 21 день назад
Yes...and I am sure that my friends and colleagues who went back to Poland played a role in defeating the anti-women's rights right!
@FactThis
@FactThis 20 дней назад
Keep in mind RN won the most votes and gained the most seats.
@jaisriram295
@jaisriram295 21 день назад
Who won the popular vote?
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 21 день назад
The right, by far.
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 21 день назад
No one. There will be a prolonged period of in-fighting now between the parties before they decide they can't work together and they have to go back to the electorate. Don't you just love PR.🤣🤣🤣
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 20 дней назад
The left don't care about that now
@pauls3204
@pauls3204 21 день назад
Not the right who are rioting it it !
@gostepsenglish4431
@gostepsenglish4431 21 день назад
Why not the 'far left'?
@dankprole7884
@dankprole7884 21 день назад
Nice
@mahtabali4256
@mahtabali4256 21 день назад
Send far right to far far right 😂
@dufud
@dufud 21 день назад
French far left you mean .
@DollyMiddleton-ke1yp
@DollyMiddleton-ke1yp 21 день назад
The people have spoken!!! The futures so bright, the French needs to wear shades.
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 21 день назад
What drug have you been taking!!?
@greamespens1460
@greamespens1460 21 день назад
Far Right yawn
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 20 дней назад
The term 'far-right' has no meaning anymore
@tombranch2261
@tombranch2261 20 дней назад
@@danielgoring1328 Has the same meaning its always had.
@beatpeace879
@beatpeace879 20 дней назад
If all three works together to make their country better for the people then i would call that democracy
@richardlewis7498
@richardlewis7498 21 день назад
She says far right but never far left 😅😅😅
@ML-oq8cu
@ML-oq8cu 21 день назад
Because the ''conseil d'état'' has gave a ruling that said that LFI wasn't a far left party but only a left party. It has also stated that the RN was a far right party.
@ct5625
@ct5625 21 день назад
Because this is a story about the far-right being beaten by a left-leaning and centrist COALITION. If she was talking about a far-left party being beaten by a right-leaning and centrist coalition she would be referring to the far-left.
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 20 дней назад
​@ct5625 it included the French communist party, which is far-left.
@ML-oq8cu
@ML-oq8cu 20 дней назад
@@danielgoring1328 Wrong the PCF (french communist party) is classify as a left party not a far-left party. So RN = far-right LFI= left PCF= left That's what said the ''conseil d'etat'' aka the highest administrative court in France. That's the law. I dont care that you disagree with this ruling.
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 19 дней назад
​@@ct5625ah so full blown self proclaimed communists are not far left. Ok then. Maybe go touch a little grass?
@williamadu-boahen4969
@williamadu-boahen4969 21 день назад
LBC the French far left did not defeat the National Party. All the parties ganged up against one party, That is not democratic!
@petervinberg6823
@petervinberg6823 21 день назад
Why is it not? Political parties are free to cooperate with whoever they want. Always been that way.
@meumnomen
@meumnomen 21 день назад
Someone sounds butthurt 😢
@OneEyeShadow
@OneEyeShadow 21 день назад
If their sales pitch is: "We will make sure that [party you don't like] doesn't come into power.", what's undemocratic about that? Sounds to me like that's the reason people voted for them.
@gourkernow5694
@gourkernow5694 21 день назад
Voter turnout made the numbers possible, that was also a factor. Anyway, if there were alliances to be made on the right, they would have made them, would you still be complaining of they had done so and won?
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 21 день назад
@@gourkernow5694 Correct! The right would've won easily if they weren't divided. So, until they don't get electorally smarter and keep refusing to ally with each other because of haughty principles, they will keep losing.
@bumberClart1000
@bumberClart1000 20 дней назад
Same here except the fascists amongst us in our U.K., hide away. Keep it covert
@neillaw
@neillaw 20 дней назад
I see no far right, only a lot of far left...
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 20 дней назад
The left prefers to ignore that part as the truth hurts their feelings.
@AvisSapiens
@AvisSapiens 20 дней назад
If that is genuinely the case that's more of a self-indictment than an actual comment on reality. You're telling on yourself.
@SweetJeopardy
@SweetJeopardy 20 дней назад
You need to get your eyes checked then.
@neillaw
@neillaw 20 дней назад
@@AvisSapiens reality is clearly different for all, I see a lot of anger from the far left though, all the political violence in Europe comes from the far left, which says a lot regards the spectrum of what is currently perceived and coerced within the media and reality
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 19 дней назад
​@@SweetJeopardyyou people are hopeless (I use "people" loosely).
@mryou2434
@mryou2434 20 дней назад
France now called Frankenstan
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 19 дней назад
The commies I'm this comments section seem to love it 😂 they must really be looking forward to sharia law and complete lawlessness
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 21 день назад
*LBC CENSORS COMMENTS !!!*
@chester6343
@chester6343 21 день назад
Drink everytime they say far right. Should ask them what makes them "far right".. asking them to retire at 66 means you're far right in France..
@stevendurrant1724
@stevendurrant1724 21 день назад
Having roots in collaboration with actual nazis probably counts, which might be why you run cover with Quizling rot.
@user-ms7ep9zw9y
@user-ms7ep9zw9y 21 день назад
🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸
@minicows8446
@minicows8446 20 дней назад
Actually these redults suggest that over certain issue - tge extreme right coming to power it has two large blocs that agree and indeed have worked together.
@lordvadertheleftie9703
@lordvadertheleftie9703 20 дней назад
First round you vote with your heart. Next round you vote with your head
@berosmith9041
@berosmith9041 21 день назад
I just think that France will always come through as a democratic country!
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 21 день назад
🤣🤣🤣
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 21 день назад
Well, I would not be so sure, but for now, we are ok.
@anthonycarroll6434
@anthonycarroll6434 21 день назад
Humans win🙃
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 19 дней назад
>humans >Leftists Pick one.
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