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The Remington Rolling Block, introduced in 1866, was one of the most prolific single shot military rifles in the world. The combination of aggressive marketing, low cost, and an excellent design led to Remington selling literally millions of Rolling Block rifles to a huge number of military forces for several decades.
By 1914, the era of the single shot military rifle was pretty much over, and Remington had ceased production of all their centerfire models of the Rolling Block. Until the French called, that is. France needed a reliable but inexpensive simple rifle to arm rear echelon troops like drivers and guards so that the modern Lebel and Berthier rifles could be concentrated on the front lines of the repidly growing First World War where they were needed most.
The French had bought black powder Rolling Blocks during the Franco-Prussian War, and were familiar with the gun. The ordered 100,000 new Rolling Blocks in late 1914, chambered for the 8mm Lebel cartridge. These would be the only single-shot rifles manufactured entirely new for use in WWI, and Remington would follow this contract with another (less successful) for Mle. 1907/15 Berthier rifles.

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@RuSeK195
@RuSeK195 8 лет назад
>is that a lebel bayonet in your pocket or are you just really happy to see me?
@nak6050
@nak6050 8 лет назад
no memetext pla
@Fireisfun90
@Fireisfun90 8 лет назад
+potatoe potato fug of ireland
@p22adraig
@p22adraig 8 лет назад
+James he's from the Czech Republic
@blakeslide6919
@blakeslide6919 8 лет назад
+potatoe potato pls /k/
@HungryMungry
@HungryMungry 7 лет назад
:^)
@michaelkeha
@michaelkeha 5 лет назад
*fires a round that sounds like Thor the god of thunder is screaming in my ear drums* *derpily bounces rifle off boot* well that's an interesting contrast.
@ROBERTN-ut2il
@ROBERTN-ut2il 11 месяцев назад
My grandfather was a railroad machinist in WW1, so none of the armed forces would enlist him. He was needed to fight the Battle of Transportation on the Home Front. Now Texas had its National Guard federalized, so to provide the governor with a militia, the Texas State Guard was formed and Grandpa enlisted. At the first training assembly, there was all sorts of speculation as to the weapons they would be issued and they were stunned when the crates were opened to find they were GEN-YOU-WINE M1873 Trap Door Springfields, still in the Cosmoline! As Granddad put it, "We figured that at least the bayonets would work!"
@artificialcheesebro8130
@artificialcheesebro8130 5 лет назад
Strangely enough I have one of these guns. I saw one on gunbroker 3 years ago and I did some research on it and I instantly fell in love. The next one I saw was just last month I only had to wait 3 years, it was between this and a thai type 91 arisaka. But this was one of the guns on my must have list so I choose this without much hesitation. This video was one of my sources, my gun has been rechambered for balls N but I shoot ball D loads without any accuracy issues.i have no idea why I am sharing this but I am.I love this channel and inrange. Ian literally is the reason why I love older firearms and why my collection grows.
@Pwnulolumad
@Pwnulolumad Год назад
You shared it because you know viewers if the channel would understand how you feel
@witeshade
@witeshade 8 лет назад
If the extractor was in there, would the old cartridge actually get sprung out of the gun when you opened it, or just pulled back far enough that you could grab it out with your fingers?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 лет назад
+Daniel G As long as you opened the breech with some vigor, it would fully eject.
@witeshade
@witeshade 8 лет назад
i figured as much.. that makes sense! you don't want people fiddling around with hot brass as they try to reload
@Rigzly23
@Rigzly23 8 лет назад
I belive that the extractor just gives the rim a kick to get the round out far enough to be able to pull it out by hand.
@MrReded69
@MrReded69 8 лет назад
+Daniel G The TFB channel has a vid of a 7x57mm Rolling Block (Mexican contract) of similar vintage being put through a run and gun. The ejection of its cartridges is quite impressive.
@JReed305
@JReed305 6 лет назад
The extractor on my 1871 in 45-70 will toss empty cases over my shoulder when the breech is opened.
@dennisandersson5552
@dennisandersson5552 8 лет назад
We did have a 8 mm version in Sweden, the 8X58RD m/1889 that was superseeded by the m/96 Mauser. The Remington in 8X58RD did however became popular as a hunting firearm and are actually still used by enthusiats. A good friend of mine did have a sporterized one until recently. However the Swedish legislation nowdays makes it tricky to own as many hunting firearms you want. The maximum is 6 long guns albeit even that is becoming increasingly difficult as there is an agenda from the authorities to minimize firearms in legal civilian ownership..
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 5 лет назад
You don't seem to have a video of you behind a desk, looking at a Remmington Rolling block in detail. I would be interested in such a video.
@danmorgan3685
@danmorgan3685 8 лет назад
Myr brother has a South American version of this rifle and it is really quit nice. It's heavier than what its slender appearance would suggest. That's because the parts are few but really heavily constructed. As Ian mentioned the US would have been much better serviced adopting this over the Springfield trapdoor rifles/carbines.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 8 лет назад
Dan Morgan There were a great many better options available to the US Army than the Springfield trapdoor, which apparently remained in service for decades on end through sheer inertia.
@danmorgan3685
@danmorgan3685 8 лет назад
RedXlV That's the trick. Once something is adopted it doesn't matter if it works. "Same as it ever was" is a powerful weapon of bureaucracies the world over.
@RalphReagan
@RalphReagan 6 лет назад
Dan Morgan yes even though I have a trapdoor I agree
@SidneyBroadshead
@SidneyBroadshead 2 года назад
The trapdoor was like the Snider - a conversion of a black-powder service rifle to use a metallic cartridge. They did it because it was cheap and because there was no budget for a decent rifle.
@reallybigmistake
@reallybigmistake 4 года назад
and then freedom group ruined Remington
@letmeouttamycage
@letmeouttamycage 8 лет назад
I bet a few of these ended up on walls of cottages and were used by the underground french resistance in ww2
@Bruciando
@Bruciando 8 лет назад
Those 2400m sights aren't wildly optimistic: the Lebel Balle D was designed from the outset for long-range fire. The sights just aren't intended for fire on an individual target at that range, but for volley fire by a squad [or larger group] on an area target [convoy, massed troops, crossroads with enemy traffic, etc.] Of course, by the time those rifles were issued, that kind of duty had been superseded by machine guns, but that's irrelevant to the sight design... ;-)
@tSp289
@tSp289 8 лет назад
Got to say, that sounded a lot more powerful than I was expecting. Almost like a shotgun.
@AdurianJ
@AdurianJ 3 года назад
The Swedish Remington m/1867-89 and m/1889 also used a smokeless powder 8mm cartridge
@elfinfluff
@elfinfluff 8 лет назад
Ian, I just had an idea, and I was wondering if anything like this was ever made. The 'rolling block' name made me think of a style of delayed blowback system, and I got curious if anyone ever designed a rifle that bridged between a bolt-action and a semi-auto system. I'm picturing you take something like the cut-off lebel system without the magazine. Either through short recoil or gas operation, when the rifle is fired it cycles open the action and ejects the casing, then stays open to allow the operator to load the next round and manually close the system. Given how slow/skittish militaries were in adopting magazines at all, I would imagine such a system would garner some interest for a short while in the late 1800s, and would be a happy medium in terms of complexity and expense of single shot full-manual rifles like this 8mm Lebel, and true semi-automatic magazine rifles of the 1900s. It might have garnered some interested among hunters, as well.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 лет назад
+elfinfluff That is how a number of anti-tank cannons were designed, as well as the PTRD AT rifle. I'm not aware of it being used in any shoulder rifles, though.
@hawks1ish
@hawks1ish 8 лет назад
+elfinfluff the Pederson device turned a 1903 Springfield into a semiautomatic rifle that would be the closest thing I can think of that "bridges the gap" Wikipedia has an article on it and Ian did a video on it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedersen_device
@rodfast8196
@rodfast8196 2 года назад
Actually there was . My buddy had a .22 single shot that when you voted it , the bolt would recoil and stay open so you could load another round . I can t recall the name of the rifle , but it was the only one like it I ve ever seen. Worked real well too
@hekkenschutz
@hekkenschutz 8 лет назад
Wouldn't it be interesting to take it out to 1000 meters and see how accurate those sights are?
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 8 лет назад
All you need is to finds someone who will let you use the broad side of their barn as the target...
@SONOFAZOMBIE2025
@SONOFAZOMBIE2025 8 лет назад
+Jon H or even 2400 meters
@rekabneb
@rekabneb 8 лет назад
+Treblaine not the broad side of the Marne?
@hekkenschutz
@hekkenschutz 8 лет назад
+Ben Baker nice :) I wasn't thinking 1000 meter accuracy... I was thinking more along the lines of firing the gun at a target at 1000 meters with the sights set at 1000 meters and see if it actually makes out that far. I feel the same curiosity for the C96 Mauser when the sights go way out to 800 meters; I would like to see if it would actually toss slugs to that distance. Not necessarily expecting to get hits or be inherently accurate.
@rekabneb
@rekabneb 8 лет назад
Jon H in theory it should be able to hit something the size of a truck at 1000m (say a 19th century company of riflemen) maybe if you tested the sights/barrel for any imperfections, and then tested firing it held in a vice I'm sure you could also find large indoor ranges to eliminate wind
@thomasadams7795
@thomasadams7795 3 года назад
Ian, Denamrk also used the RB in an 8mm caliber-the 8x58R
@lafkabij
@lafkabij 8 лет назад
Hi, Ian. Thank you for the content, as always. Have you ever considered doing a "firearms 101" series where you cover the history and development of important, but perhaps not "forgotten", pieces? I'm sure I'm not your only fan who would consider themselves a gun newbie, and in fact your patient and thorough explanations lend themselves to people like myself. I'm happy to keep googling terms like "rimfire vs centerfire cartridges", "rolling block", and "recoil vs gas operated", but there's a limit to how much I can contextualize on my own. Perhaps it would be a bit boring for you to go into the same detail with more famous weapons as you do with these more esoteric pieces. But for people like me, understanding why the M1 Garand or Colt revolver were so important, or why different kinds of cartridge became popular, or what defines an AR or AK system, would also help us appreciate the comparisons and contrasts you make with the weapons you already cover so well. Just an idea in case I'm not the only one who would enjoy this. Thank you very much!
@NatsuKashi00
@NatsuKashi00 8 лет назад
This channel is primarily focused on rare, obscure, and "forgotten" weapons, of course. What Ian is trying to do, is give easy access to information on firearms that aren't ones you would just think to search on google. If you're interested in the mechanisms of famous weapons like the AR or AK, or any of the other details you mentioned, there are plenty of other videos and websites that can explain it better than he can.
@glueguzzler9548
@glueguzzler9548 6 лет назад
Luken Weaver you may be able to find some more info on the sister channel inrangetv
@marcinchromicz805
@marcinchromicz805 6 лет назад
a many years a go, I have read a book about Warsaw raising in 1944. Some Polish soldier remembered how he fought aganist Germans with very old, obsolete, one shot, Lebel rifle with broken extractor. It was THIS rifle :)
@bigboreharley
@bigboreharley 5 лет назад
they made a very good smg underground in Warsaw …..so the lebel will be not used a lot I think.
@jidk6565
@jidk6565 7 месяцев назад
​@@bigboreharleyhow many of those did they make Compared to how many people they needed to arm
@bigfatassviking
@bigfatassviking 8 лет назад
Nice gun Ian. I have an M1867-74 made by Husqvarna under license from Remington in a nice condition. I'm missing the cleaning rod and the bayonet though...
@slaughterhound8793
@slaughterhound8793 4 года назад
Twenty-four hundred might be a stretch, but I would like to see someone split the difference and try one of these at 1200 meters. When you said the extractor was missing, I thought you were going to have to pry the cases out with a knife like Custer's men were said to have had to do with their Trapdoor Springfield's.
@GammaMorser
@GammaMorser 3 года назад
Just curious. If repeaters became the de facto norm during the great war, why didn't the French went for something like the Russians did? Like Winchester 1895. Even if the rifles are not for frontline troops, its better to have a repeater than a single-shot. French were already buying these rifles new, why not get a slightly better one? Remington were already making Berthiers for them.
@shaunericsachs4704
@shaunericsachs4704 2 года назад
Actually the 8×58R is another early cartridge that some krag / Huskavarna ?? rolling blocks were also converted by the Danish I believe
@josho5108
@josho5108 8 лет назад
I was just reading about this! Lebel-chambered Remingtons! I would really like one of these rifles someday, preferrably in .45-70 or better still, 7.62x54R or .30-06! Unbelieveable I know, but I've heard tell of these)
@josho5108
@josho5108 8 лет назад
+Josh O Or .303 Brit. That'd be ok too.
@GRMGR1
@GRMGR1 5 лет назад
I’ve always wanted a rolling block
@ALKIS97
@ALKIS97 8 лет назад
You wrong about it being The only remington Rolling block chambered for 8mm, The swedish military used a remington rolling block chambered for 8x58rd.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 лет назад
+John Alkeberg Those were not made by Remington.
@ALKIS97
@ALKIS97 8 лет назад
+Forgotten Weapons but The are rolling block rifles and they are chambered for 8mm, you clamed The 8mm lebel were The only rolling blocks chambered for 8mm
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 лет назад
+John Alkeberg When it comes to identification, if you find a gun marked Remington and in 8mm, it will be a French contract rifle.
@TroopperFoFo
@TroopperFoFo 8 лет назад
+Forgotten Weapons To be fair in the video you did say the only Rolling Block chambered in 8mm. You didn't say the only Remington one.
@berhorst59
@berhorst59 8 лет назад
+d.o. niskane Sweden ne Er used 8x58. That was a Danish caliber
@MsCADKO
@MsCADKO 8 лет назад
Cool panama dude! In Russia we call it "Afghanka". Because we all remember it for Afghanistan war (1979-89) but it was presented in 1935. Eg our legendary Marshal Konstantin Zhukov wore the same in 1939 in Khalkhyn Gol.
@bulukacarlos4751
@bulukacarlos4751 10 месяцев назад
Old, Forgotten, Ambidextrous, French, with bayonet.....Ian´s paradise. Grettings from Patagonia Argentina
@JASepichunter
@JASepichunter 8 лет назад
Damnit! Now I gotta get one for my collection.... I should stop watching your videos, they make me wanna go spend my money...
@jamesfarmer6004
@jamesfarmer6004 8 лет назад
A Remington Rolling Block Rifle or "Roller" in No. 1 Sporter Rifle version chambered in8mm Lebel, 7mm Mauser (7x57), .30-40 Krag, .303 British, 7.62mm Russian, and even.50-70 and .45-70 Springfield would have been ideal for the peon, peasant, commonperson, worker, farmer, etc. who didn't need a bolt action magazine military rifle. Purpose:hunting and providing fresh meat for the family larder. Even on a plantation, farm, estate,or where deer or antelope type game existed. Bear in mind these fore mentioned calibersall pre-date the venerable .30-30 Winchester (1895). Remember no substitute exists foraccuracy and shot placement. Also, a Remington Roller, including the John M. Browningdesigned Winchester Model 1885 single shot, is a basic firearm and simple to utilize,maintain, and properly clean. Even for the illiterate. Today Remington Arms Co. stillproduces their original No. 1 Rolling Block Sporting Rifle. These are superior to their19th/early 20th century antecedents due to modern high strength steels and modernmanufacturing. Even for thinning feral hog populations on the landscape this riflewould remain useful even for today (2016). ----James A. "Jim" Farmer Ashland, Oregon
@Thelemorf
@Thelemorf 6 лет назад
In 1889 swedish rolling blocks were remade/upgraded to 8x58RD (m/1867-1889) so not all 8mm rolling blocks are french ;)
@Matt0ak47
@Matt0ak47 6 лет назад
That gun was made in my town!
@troy9477
@troy9477 8 лет назад
Quite a pig sticker with that bayonet installed. I've been wanting a repro rolling block. Maybe i will get one of these instead.
@enoughofyourkoicarp
@enoughofyourkoicarp 8 лет назад
R.I.P. headphone users, muahaha, not so smug now, are you? :P
@Gakulon
@Gakulon 8 лет назад
Oh, we can handle it. At least, the more experienced users.
@enoughofyourkoicarp
@enoughofyourkoicarp 8 лет назад
Moss Foster Not recently.
@D8W2P4
@D8W2P4 8 лет назад
+enoughofyourkoicarp >He doesn't watch firearm videos to hear the supersonic crack. >He can't handle the very pleasant sound an 8mm Lebel makes. There's being a casual and then there's you.
@enoughofyourkoicarp
@enoughofyourkoicarp 8 лет назад
D8W2P4 LOL
@kaiserpanda
@kaiserpanda 8 лет назад
that report sound is just lovely
@MrGunshow12
@MrGunshow12 8 лет назад
totally irrelevant to this video, but is it possible you could review a ks-23? I mean, a shotgun utilizing a faulty anti aircraft barrel seems interesting to anybody if you ask me.
@Dezzylyricz
@Dezzylyricz 5 лет назад
I want them to make a 12gauge version
@berhorst59
@berhorst59 8 лет назад
Want the 8mm Lebel the first smokeless cartridge?
@danschneider3077
@danschneider3077 8 лет назад
Would love to see a Portuguese Kropatscheck rifle in action....really the father of the Lebel 1886 that is so endeared by old gun fans
@JoanieKennedy
@JoanieKennedy 6 лет назад
I know the video is about the rifle, but I just have to say it, you are so handsome :)
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 6 лет назад
I are 0ld now 75 years 0ld from now an armorer at one time from NOM to now,I really like what you do...You do it very well thanks very much your friend Steve.....!
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 8 лет назад
Didn't the Royal Navy also buy up Remington's remaining stock of 7mm Rolling Blocks?
@l1zrdking
@l1zrdking 6 лет назад
That shot is one satisfying sound.
@Alexx120493
@Alexx120493 8 лет назад
Turned the volume up to properly understand you, regretted it at 6:14. Damn that was loud
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy 6 лет назад
where is the smoke at the end of the barrel when you fire the rifle?
@34powers
@34powers 8 лет назад
i think the british had a version of the Marti Henry cambered in .303 that was used in ww1
@kevinoliver3083
@kevinoliver3083 10 месяцев назад
The .303 Martini-Enfield and Martini-Metford rifles were conversions of .577/450 Martini-Henrys. Not new builds.
@mrspike007able
@mrspike007able 8 лет назад
In the 1960's Importers broke them up for their actions I remember ads in the American Riflemen Magazine stating made during WW 1. 8MM Lebel, 7.62x54r moisin nagant was almost Impossible to find.
@matthoffman4403
@matthoffman4403 8 лет назад
Has there ever been reports of volley fire or indirect fire being used to any effect with modern smokeless cartridge rifles? I only ask because many of these old military rifles like this have sights with settings past 2000 meters. I would love to see a video on the subject maybe with some of the more ridiculous sight settings.
@DB.KOOPER
@DB.KOOPER 3 года назад
I just found an old Rolling Block with a really good bore/rifling in my barn... never knew Dad had it but now I gotta find out what caliber it is and Im gonna have some fun shooting it once I get some dies and parts to load for it. Im really excited. Im thinking it might be fun to take Elk hunting on our property in ID.
@yelar9000
@yelar9000 6 лет назад
60 views off (over) 111111 views ; (
@vincefitboywood2884
@vincefitboywood2884 6 лет назад
I love the sound of this rifle!! I love these guns!! I want one!!
@titaniumdiveknife
@titaniumdiveknife 8 лет назад
7:00 I thought you'd never do it. Nice knife get!
@remko1238
@remko1238 6 лет назад
Seriously: never a dull moment on FW / Itv 🎯 A special on Bannister Castle ...?
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 8 лет назад
"Bring the rain." And the rain was brought, one round at a time. I love it, and also how that bayonet looks almost as long as a short sword. Would the rear troops carry any pistols to go with this thing?
@lordjor96
@lordjor96 8 месяцев назад
The mexican army have a couple of those but by late 1890s they recive mausers and Swiss guns. And during the revolución they heavily use lever action guns, still mexican single shots are very rare to find.
@kevinoliver3083
@kevinoliver3083 6 месяцев назад
The Lebel rifle was never modern, even in 1886. Its only innovative feature was the powder in the cartridge. Everything else was either already the norm, a bolt action and a small bore barrel, or already osolescent, the tube magazine.
@thomasschreiber9559
@thomasschreiber9559 7 лет назад
Tippmann armory .357, .44 and 45-70
@amandahammond2691
@amandahammond2691 8 лет назад
What does one of these cost? That's really awesome.
@GrexTheCrabasitor
@GrexTheCrabasitor 8 лет назад
wow thats a great sound.
@quickattackfilms7923
@quickattackfilms7923 5 лет назад
What a beautiful old gun. Simple and sleek.
@lolbroh
@lolbroh 8 лет назад
that sound.
@karlkuttup
@karlkuttup Год назад
my friend in france has a remingtonrolling block copy thats 7mm and seen a 6, mm one as well all straight wall cartrages.i never had any idea what there were ,till he said ,see a few of them on the village market stalls ,saw a shorterned smle had a foot cut off it ,at least and rebanded to look the part , up near pau southern france
@BlazinPheonix32
@BlazinPheonix32 2 года назад
Oh my god I was playing fallout and as a suicide super mutant attacked me and exploded he fired the rifle for the first time which scared the shit out of me 😂
@FHJH966
@FHJH966 8 лет назад
nice Soviet Panama!
@eric8589
@eric8589 6 лет назад
Was this before or after the split breach?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 лет назад
After.
@wastedangelematis
@wastedangelematis 8 лет назад
the TFB had a review on the gun, its nice to see old guns reviewed
@tombogan03884
@tombogan03884 2 года назад
Kind of what happened to the Soumi's that became Stemple STG's.
@thelaughinghyenas7962
@thelaughinghyenas7962 8 лет назад
Cool!
@sirn3cr045
@sirn3cr045 8 лет назад
Great vid man. i want one of those so bad lol
@llamallama1509
@llamallama1509 3 года назад
That was painfully loud in my headphones. Ouch >_
@csscomander
@csscomander 7 лет назад
Awesome video!!
@michaelabtos3465
@michaelabtos3465 3 года назад
that rifle used by our ancestors to defend our country proud filipino here🇵🇭
@BarcelPL
@BarcelPL 8 лет назад
I like the sound this makes.
@connorgormly3236
@connorgormly3236 6 лет назад
Love your work can’t wait for more
@davidwagner4671
@davidwagner4671 8 лет назад
Great video as always
@brennanc4321
@brennanc4321 3 года назад
Most Scandinavian countries still used them.
@HCvertigo
@HCvertigo 8 лет назад
Good Video.
@astridvallati4762
@astridvallati4762 4 года назад
BACK in 2005, in Italy, at T4C ( The Four Company) of a suburb of Brescia, I bought 6 Remington French Actions, 2 Saddle ring acarbine, and Four Rifle Actions. They arenowin Australia, to be rebuilt into a selection of "Film Guns" ( Rifles, Musketoons, Cav. Carbines ) With interchangeable barrels in Long, Intermediate and Carbine Lenght, with relevant woidwork and bands. Barrels will be seamless hydraulic tube ( blank fire only) in a case to suit the 8mm Lebel extractor. I have a M1902 7mm Remington to pattern thewood off on my Terrco stock copier. If I had a spare 8mm Lebel barrel, I would refit it and build up a proper M1914. Doc AV Brisbane
@rahbaralhaq
@rahbaralhaq 8 лет назад
Is is possible to fire the rifle (relatively) safely without actually closing the breach bloc? I mean, will the hammer will push the block close if the trigger is pulled?
@DrGun-re1kd
@DrGun-re1kd 8 лет назад
+Rik Raptor The rolling block contains the firing pin, and physically blocks the hammer from falling if it is open, so it acts as an additional safety. It can not fire unless the block is fully closed.
@SgtKOnyx
@SgtKOnyx 7 лет назад
Rik Raptor No sir. The shape of the pieces means that you cannot fire without the breach closed. I recommend TFBTV's video on the rolling block, I think they explain it slightly better. It's also more than a year old, so any recent problems with the platform are... not applicable
@RussellHoughton
@RussellHoughton 6 лет назад
You say this is the only 8mm rolling block I say what about 8x58rd.
@Hobgoblin1975
@Hobgoblin1975 8 лет назад
You know honestly any nation state that was looking to equip large numbers of Men that perform non combat duties, neighborhood policing, drivers, camp guards ect. would benefit from a weapon like this being in inventory. Not sure how many machining operations it takes to make one, but I imagine it would be a lot less than AKs very much so with AR 15s and even bolt actions. I suspect you could arm a 100k Men for about 1/10 what it would cost to arm them with something like a G 36 or a M-4. also you could use some what cheaper steel because they wont be shooting as much ammo as a modern design with out much fear of it exploding because its such a sturdy design. And after all. since they are not that fearsome, you could hand them out to volunteers as an emergency required. If you used your nations infantry rifle caliber youd have huge stockpiles of ammunition on hand. THis just turned into a list 1. cheaper to make in bulk than anything except maybe muzzle loaders or slam fire shotguns, but vastly more useful than those 2. Sturdy , handy for Men who don't have access to armorers 3. The resale value would be pretty much non existent so you don't have to waste energy watching keeping close track of them the way the modern military does its small arms. 4. unarmed mooks tend to flee at the first sign of trouble. also humans are generally averse to engaging in melee 5. Money saved could be spent on better arms for soldiers intended to fight 6. No spray and pray from untrained mooks eating into your ammo supply and causing unwanted casulties
@tommcgaw3070
@tommcgaw3070 8 лет назад
I wonder if the Remington Rolling Block action could handle being re-barreled to 7.62x54r. Do you think it could? If it could, it would be a fun economical rifle to shoot or to hunt with.
@noursedeyboa3138
@noursedeyboa3138 8 лет назад
that sound
@Riazor1370
@Riazor1370 8 лет назад
Did the spanish used the 7 mm rolling blocks in Cuba againts the invading US troops, beside the mausers?
@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire
@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 6 лет назад
The Rolling Blocks are a elegantly simple and strong design. If they were being produced by a modern firearms manufacturer, they probably shouldn't cost anymore to build than one of the H&R break action single shot rifles. From a target shooting standpoint though, they are a lot better since you can reload without having to move the rifle from your rest, allowing it to remain on target. Well, as long as the extractor is working (unlike Ian's example here). :)
@57WillysCJ
@57WillysCJ 8 лет назад
When you could get the cheap Spanish Rolling Blocks they were great to rechamber to 45-70 and still a lot cheaper than an original in 45-70.
@Ml114n
@Ml114n 8 лет назад
What's the advantage of rolling block over falling block? They seem very similar to me but I don't understand why did rolling block outlive falling block in case of single shot rifles while staying preferable in for instance anti tank weapons even to this day.
@fortbuilder100
@fortbuilder100 8 лет назад
I actually had one, many years ago. As a kid I frequently traded off and for guns. Like to kick myself now for trading the Lebel off.
@ville307
@ville307 8 лет назад
Bayonets are rare... My grandpa carried his WW2 bayonet still in 2000s. I bet many people took them home.
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 2 года назад
Are these the rifles that ended up in Arab hands?
@richardelliott9511
@richardelliott9511 6 лет назад
Seems almost blasphemous to see a Rolling Block fire without the cloud of white smoke associated with black powder and to hear the supersonic crack of a "modern" high velocity round smokeless round
@viking1ur
@viking1ur 6 лет назад
8mm lik the m-1889 is Norwegian Roller block also same for denmark and sweden
@DrGun-re1kd
@DrGun-re1kd 8 лет назад
The rolling blocks upgraded to Balle N would be good shooters to add to a French rifle collection. Although, I have never seen a French contract version for sale.
@ronaldcolman6211
@ronaldcolman6211 8 лет назад
I love these videos, but I hate when you have to edit around Ian going off on a tangent. I know you have a vast knowledge of firearms history, and I want to hear your thoughts,. Stop cutting us out of good material.
@dalemoss4684
@dalemoss4684 2 года назад
Thanks Ian; your channel made me a late 19th century firearms appreciator.
@crazyfvck
@crazyfvck 8 лет назад
I've always loved the rolling block action.. Simple, rugged, and effective. I'd love a beefed up modern version in 408 Cheytac ;) But I would settle for one in 7.62x54 :) (I prefer 308, but that doesn't have a rim.)
@HaakonTheViking
@HaakonTheViking 8 лет назад
I like that you bounce it on your boot, so many people would do it on the ground, and hurt the rifle. I never even let my Krag stand on the ground, I allways have it standing on something, so not to have the gravel or concrete scrach the butplate.
@TheDonSP
@TheDonSP 8 лет назад
Very interesting. I had no idea there were any new-manufactured single-shot rifles that saw service in WWI.
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne 6 лет назад
Remingtion should again produce rolling blocks!!!
@loganhoy2265
@loganhoy2265 8 лет назад
I wanna see you bayonet a dummy, Ian!
@Leverguns50
@Leverguns50 4 года назад
Really cool looking rifle
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