Friday the 13th (NES Video Game) James & Mike Mondays 

When I was a kid our house burned down. This was literally the only possession of mine that made it through the fire, and I still have my blackened copy today.

James' interest in this game made this video so much better.

I love how James transitioned from "this game ain't that bad" to "FUCK THIS GAME!"

This is one of the best JMM episodes. So much better when James likes a game and is really dialed in.

I honestly don't understand the complaints about navigation on the main trails and lake. If you consider where the camera is shooting from, everything makes complete sense. Maybe not in the caves and forest, but the others are not that hard. Especially someone who is a filmmaker.

It's sort of strange how ambitious this game is.

Three things you must know to survive this game: 1) you have to light all of the fireplaces with the same counselor 2) you dodge by holding DOWN and pressing LEFT or RIGHT 3) you can switch counselors by pressing START in a small cabin

I remember playing this in a dark room late at night with the volume on the tv turned way up and eating pizza with my friends. Damn those were some good times playing Nintendo! The music in this game takes me back to that time. I will remember it even when I'm old and laying in my death bed. Thanks James and Mike for these videos.

There's actually a reason why Most characters with black outfits were purple on the NES. You couldn't really do characters with mostly black outfits well with the nes color palette, not to mention they might blend in with the background. So that's why.

I like how you can actually see James slowly turning into the AVGN in this video.

I actually want him to kill Jason just so I can see his reaction to finding out that you have to kill him 2 more times.

this is amazing, this is easily one of my favorite james & mike mondays. the determination, the analysis, the tape on the TV. stunning.

tbh this game is kind of a "survival horror" before that was really a common genre

This game used to scare the shit out of me.

I can’t believe how calming watching this can be.. I sat through this 42 min video more times than I care to count

I've watched just about every Cinemassacre video and this is one of the best ones.

#1 - Get the knife! #2 - GET THE KNIFE! #3 - *GET THE KNIFE!!*

The music was composed by Hirohiko Takayama, who composed music mostly for Atlus. Atlus developed “Friday the 13th.” Former composer and sound drive designer Tsukasa Masuko mentioned something interesting during a conversation I had by Facebook Messenger. From what I made out on his response in Japanese, LJN had inexperienced game designers that would pitch a game concept to companies like Atlus.

Soooo many people talked shit about this game but I always loved it

One of my favorite episodes. I lost it when James say "This is bad!" when his character gets low health on the way to the boathouse.

OMG I love these videos! Made my Monday! Thank you guys!

Couple things: Using the NES Max controller makes dodging Jason way easier, Mark and Chrissy are the fastest characters, so use them to scout better weapons which you immediately trade off to the slower characters, then let Mark and Chrissy keep the torches. The cave and the woods are a waste of time if you actually want to beat the game, and Jason appears way more often at night--if you let him kill the kids, he'll kill them five at a time, if he kills them all, the game's over--so save those "fuck the kids" moments until night three.

Now I need to see a sprite edit of Jason in Punch-Out

"My parents didn't let me watch the movies. It wasn't the violence, it was the nudity" - American logic

3:12 I want that figure so damn much but they go for insane amounts online. Still a neat ass little concept for a figure

Once you get what to do in this game, it's much easier. The torch will save your ass. The only place I never really mess with are the secret areas in the woods. This game was definitely creepy when I was a kid, and it still is, but that's what makes it awesome.

Beating this game and Winnie the pooh home run derby are the highlights of my gaming career.

Kids these days have no idea how easy todays games are compared to what people who grew up playing nes games.

This game gets a bad rap (and for the map it's well deserved), but I really loved it as a kid. I truly felt like he was stalking me, and when it all came down to the wire, naturally, you were stuck as the slow chubby kid with no throwing power, and shit went insane. I'd end up lost in a cave or out on the lake with night closing in, one kid left, campers crying out for help in every direction. The music would get stuck in my head and even though I dreaded it, I looked forward to playing this game with a friend, handing off the controller and wondering just how in the hell far we'd get this time. It was a shoddily made game, but damn if it wasn't fun in the right circumstances. Good times. And of course we can finally BE Jason in the new game, and get our revenge at last.

I'm jealous of the epic physical media collection in the background.

I had a friend as a kid who could beat the game with just the rock. I thought he was nuts.

You have to jump to find keys, health, and knives.....

Fun fact for the day, This game was developed by Atlus

For some reason this video is comforting to me. A kid down the street owned this game and I was always fascinated with the movies as a kid. I can still remember the image of this game sitting on the shelf at Shoprite in the rental section. Ahhh nostalgia, nothing like it

this is my favorite james and mike episode but it genuinely upsets me a little bit each time mike cuts off james with complaining while james is trying to speak/explain something

This is not a bad game, this is a difficult game. The music is great, there's real suspense to save those damn kids and the other camp counselors, you have Jason popping up out of nowhere to scare the shit out of you, there's multiple endings, a map screen that was accurate with a slight learning curve, great day to night transition, characters that had different characteristics, and even primitive 3D elements in the houses where Jason pops up and again scares the living crap out of you. Great game, glad I had it when I was a kid.

I always used to be the only person actually defending the original Turtles on the NES, it's my favourite of the NES turtle games simply because I prefer platformers over beat'm ups, I loved the gameplay, the level design and especially the music. Glad to see Mike feeling the same way or at the very least that he does like it. It's just like Shaq Fu, most people never even played these and others are just hating on the games because 'famous' people are hating on them. I always used to defend a lot of LJN games until you guys made the video actually saying they did have some great games and only then others were starting to say it too. I always hate that online sheep mentality, so many people are just too afraid to like certain games, it's pretty messed up not to have your own opinions. Either way loving the mini Monster Madness thing going on now!

This game was scary AF

this and the metroid playthrough are some of my favorite james & mike mondays episodes. love when james gets serious with trying to beat a game.

Mike: I can't do it, therefore it sucks! Logic!

Honestly, I 100% agree with the way they did the map in this game. I'll explain: They designed the game to be see less. The screen inky cuts away when you are switching paths. There are no loading zones when you are walking on the same path. So you can walk from one end of the camp to the other with no cuts or breaks in the action. So with this in mind, look at the map and just imagine that when you are at the bottom of the screen, the camera -- your viewpoint -- is located just South of you looking inward towards you, facing northward. Now walk right/east around the camp. When you get to the far right side of the map where the path curves northward, the camera -- your viewpoint -- never switches which side of the path it is on. It is still on the outside looking inward, so when you head rightward on the screen once the path curves northward, you are heading northward on the map. Now think about when you get to the top of the map and the path curves back westward. Once again, the camera -- your viewpoint -- has still not switched which side of the path it is looking towards you from. It is still looking inwards towards you, meaning that it is facing southward. So when you head right on the screen, you are actually heading west, therefore you are moving left in the screen. The stage backgrounds even match this. When you are on the north side of the lake, for example, the screen is still looking at you with the lake in the background. It does not show the plain grass in the other side of the path instead. Therefore, it would actually be *_incorrect_* for the map to work any other way than the way they had it work in this game and is the reason why I agree with this mechanic 100%.

The reason the map is "broken" is because its actually not broken at all. Its because they only wanted to program as few background screens as possible. This means that the backround is always the lake, the mountain or the forest. Basically if you always want the background to be the lake (and make it feel like you are going around the lake,) then the top parts of the map will make it seem like you are traveling backwards. This could be fixed by making things mirrored on the top(play probably wouldnt notice). but this was back in old games so they probably didnt realize how confusing it would feel until it was too late to bother fixing. its mainly because you are using paths of a top down map and applying them to a side view. It can confuse you.

Was there a reason James decided to have Mark kneel over while Jason rushed towards him? Mark has great jump control, and can bunnyhop over Jason thus evading his attacks. Also I know this video is over a year old, but some characters have better attributes than others as evident when they discovered that Mark is one of 2 of the fastest characters in the game (Chrissy being the other one). While other characters are slower, they do have redeeming qualities and if placed in strategic locations can be effective against keeping Jason at bay.

In order to get any items, each character must: 1) Kill a few zombies to get the lighter 2) Then jump around in certain general areas for the knife, key and potion to appear 3) Kill a bunch of zombies to get a machete to appear (optional) 4) To get the torch - Each character must require the lighter, knife, key, read two notes, light five fireplaces 5) To find the two notes that are in the cabins with fireplace: One at the lower-left corner of the lake, one at the most north from the cave. Note: you must read them that tells you to go to the cabins 6) Light all fireplaces to get the flashlight 7)A note that tells you to find the torch is located in the fireplace cabin at the most east in the middle of the map 8) The torch is located in the fireplace cabin north of the lake after completing "step 4" 9) Killing Jason's mom gives items: Day 1 - Machete, Day 2 - Sweater, Day 3 - Pitchfork 10) Axes are located in cabins in the woods, but don't bother getting them That's it in the nutshell, the rest is killing Jason. Good luck.

I Finally beat this game tonight!!!!!

God I can't believe how little they get the map movement. It's a board game and you're looking at it from the outside of the map inward. That explains the whole movement perfectly. You have to imagine yourself sitting around each side of the board looking inward at it and moving.

Someone should make a ROM hack of this game that fixes its flaws.

I don't understand the Internet comment jackals. Neither of them proclaim to be experts. The whole point is to watch them try to tackle difficult games. Sometimes they don't. And Mike is part of the whole deal so I don't understand the negativity towards him. Just don't watch the channel. Isn't James a dad? Doubt he's got the time to make AVGN episodes that he used to. I dig all your content guys. Keep it up.

"Jason's mom is in the cave." "Jason's mom is in the cave?" "Jason's mom is in the cave." Every time I hear this exchange I laugh

James: Don't kill me. Jason: (Holds up Friday The 13th on NES) James: (Silence for 2 seconds) Kill me.

I keep re-watching this episode for some reason lol. I love this one. Ya'll are hilarious

Also, Jason doesn't go away if he's close to dying himself, I believe.

Can somebody make a Friday the 13th Redacted that fixes all the bullshit

I don't understand how they can find the map system so confusing, it's just basic spatial reasoning. You just use what you see in the background to orient yourself on the map. Completely logical?

7:31 Jason was swimming!

Heh, those action figures of the NES versions of Jason and Freddy look very nice and clever for sure. :D

At 9:57 Mike's face perfectly describes his opinion on the game. It's priceless XD.

This was one of my favorite NES games. Once you understand what it is you need to do, it's not that hard. It's mostly just the navigation is hard.

My great grandmother had an NES for all the kids to play when they came over but this and Super Mario Bros. 3 were the only games she bought. The NES was at the top of the stairs in this creepy hall and I remember not even wanting to go up there because I was so scared of this game.

James and Mike, you help make Mondays less of a steaming pile of shit. That's probably the biggest compliment anyone can say about Monday, so, thanks for these videos. I appreciate all the hard work that goes into them.

The original "GET THE KNIFE!" game.

AVGN (Scared, as Jason has him cornered)-"Don't kill me." *Jason presents him with the NES Friday the 13th game.* AVGN (Scared, as he sees the shitty game)-"Kill me."

This is my favorite J&MM. I remember the orthodontist my older sisters went to had this game in the waiting area and I'd try to play it every time we went. I could never figure out what to do. Granted, I was 7-8 years old.

I can see how James gave this game a 2nd look. It seems like it could've been good or had potential to be good but it just doesn't meet the standards. It certainly was unique in it's own right. It's still better than Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Love this episode! The way they try to figure the game out combined with the fact that the game itself isn't completely broken makes it really entertaining to watch. This game is clearly not good, but it's because of lots of minor flaws rather than some huge major issue that ruins the experience.

James's knowledge of this shitty game is stunning...

19:02 - Mike: "...but they didn't do that because this is a terrible game." The look Mike gives James when he says that was priceless.

I've been playing this on-and-off for over 25 years, and everything seems like second nature to me. It's odd to see people having difficulty at it. Yes, I don't know all of the tricks like the speedrunners, but it's not THAT bad of a game. One trick that James and Mike didn't mention is switching counselors in the small cabins to get Jason outside for a battle. Also, lighter > fireplaces > flashlight. The torch is through some chain of events between the larger lakeside cabins and the one in the woods.

23:33 That music reminds me of Link's Awakening...

I don't know how so many people don't know that if a counselor is being attacked, you can go into any small cabin and then switch to the victim and fight Jason as the victim.

It's not often when James has to be the one to show these games what's up lol. These videos are awesome! Thanks for this and all the great content

you have to keep jumping for the key.

This is my favourite james and mike monday episode. James really explains the game in such an interesting way

You guys should totally check out the hacked version of this called "Freddy vs Jason" where you play as Jason.

I got this for my 12th birthday, and had no idea what to do. I was able to figure some things out, except how to get Jason outside. I finally beat him when I was 14.

23:33 probably my favorite part of any James Rolfe video ever. I always got freaked out at that part as a kid

I love the music 🎶 in this game...It’s so eerie and mysterious.

I always thought this game's music sounded an awful lot like Xexyz, so I looked it up and it turns out that both games had the same composer, Hirohiko Takayama. Pretty neat.

Not sure if any of this info is on the directions you had but here's a few other tips for beating this game. 1 Stand on the right side of the n in Jason's name when fighting him, stay still and doge and he has a hard time hitting you. 2 Use Mike and Crissy to get the others a knife by going around and passing the weapon. 3 Leave all but those 2 in the cabins next to the lake to switch to when he attacks the children. 4 Whenever you can, use the cure option with the medicine bottles rather then running out of life, it will heal you more and let you continue to collect them with Mike and Crissy. Also you can't cure yourself, it only works when you walk in a cabin with another counselor in and heal the one there. 5 Getting the Torch is not needed, it's something to do while waiting for Jason attacks, but you can get a machete at random and it's far better. The main thing is to learn how to fight Jason and manage the lake to make this game a lot more manageable.

Every time I hear the Jason Alarm, it reminds me of "Ain't Love Grand" by Atreyu

Any game he can't beat he thinks is terrible.

...ALWAYS START WITH MARK!!

The best way to describe the movement on the world map is to imagine that the camera is on the character, but is always facing the center where the lake is as it moves around the outside of the circle.

Comparing Mike Tysons Punch Out to Friday the 13th is like comparing a Bentley to a bumper car!

All you have to do is use the lake for a reference on which direction you're going! It's not that hard, is it? D:

Love seeing how natural this video was, from optimism, to anger, to logic, to fuck this game. I've followed those steps many times in some of the harder games and I was looking forward to seeing it beaten, but that look on your faces was so familiar to me I feel it was a nice ending

Love these Monday game sessions this is what gaming shud be about

I like Mike's tribute to Mr. Rogers with his sweater.

Weird, im watching this on Friday the 13th 2019..... oOooOoOOOOoo

Watched on Friday the 13th while eating chicken and rice.

i like how you have to tape the screen, and playing on a old tv hahahahah awesome!

I just love the line "killing Jason makes the days go by..." It reminds of the lyrics to that song "Once In A Lifetime" by the Talking Heads. Can you imagine if "letting the days go by" was replaced with " killing Jason, makes the days go by" with that happy music accompanying it?! That would be HILARIOUS!

2022 anyone?

I really wanted to watch you beat this, but it was very entertaining nonetheless.

Still impressed by the parallax scrolling in a game this old.

I love the part where you put in what you're trying to say in relation to JAWS. Unexpected, but much appreciated effort! :D

I think this is actually the one good game LJN made. I'm glad he went back and played through this more.

DAMN MIKE LET JAMES SPEAK!@!!

You gotta dodge until he goes to the back

What's funny is that it's all there in the manual, it tells you about the Jason alarm and that when he is attacking a counselor you can either reach the cabin OR switch to that counselor directly, beating zombies to find more powerful items, counselors having diferent stats, leaving the slower counselors around the lake and use the faster ones to scout all over for items, getting the torch, the sweater, trading items to other counselorsm potions appearing more often in the woods etc. While certain mechanics are more cryptic/not mentioned (like having to jump to find more items) most of the stuff is all there in the manual. Also Pro Tip: If you are outside and you see the monsters running out off the screen is because Jason is coming, quickly change screens/go inside a building to avoid him, if you fought Jason outside wait a little bit before going inside a cabin/changing screens outside since you have a high chance to find him again (Like what happened to Mike at the start of the video). If you fought him inside a Cabin wait a bit before going out or switch to another counselor. But yeah I agree despite all these flaws I really liked this game, it gave a nice vibe of being creepy and keeping you on your toes without knowing when Jason would strike, was the best they could do to adapt a slasher film to the NES, really wish we had a 16 bit version. Talking about 16 bit have you player Clock Tower on the SNES? it was famicom only but to my knowledge it was the only true horror game on the console.