It's a shame so few people are aware of the sheer scale of the late classical symphony. This is just excellent music which does not forfeit the ideals of the eighteenth century and yet still maintain something incredibly new.
You have been misled. This 'music' is nothing more than an unglorified harmony exercise, totally derivative and full of clichés. Mr Witt is good at one thing, though: hiding the emptiness of the thematic material behind crafty instrumentation. This 'music' is of zero value.
Beethoven 9. : Georg Benda: "Romeo i Julie", III act : Final. Auf! Auf unter Reuezahren (Tutti), "... Zvietracht abzuschvoren" (!) Beethoven stands "on shoulders": Haydn, Salieria, Dittersdorf, Lucasia, Muzio Clemente, Paisel, Chimarose, Pavel Wranitzky, Mehul, Pleiel, Jan Ladislav Dussek, Joseph Kraus, Antonio Cartellieria, Witt, Vioti ... Without a synthesis - no Bethoven. Hummel, Jan Dussek and Kramer are the equivalent of Beethoven.
Pretty much every major theme in Beethoven's mid- and late works is a quote. In quite a few cases it's done on purpose though as the work quoted has some relevant context (e.g., the Napoleonic military music quoted in the 9th). I assume it's much more often a case than we believe for vast majority of composers, just the sources they used are lost or remain undiscovered.
Quotes were somewhat common at the time, but in this case it was Witt quoting Beethoven (introduction to the 2nd symphony, as already pointed out), not the opposite.
Great! One can clearly hear Mozart , Hummel and Gluck 's influence . Nevertheless , Witt has his own identity . Jena Symphony and that one are obsviously from de same composer. A far as I 'm concerned , there is no plagiary ( in Jena Symphony ).
When listening to Mozart, do you ever say "one can clearly hear Hummel or Witt'" ? You have been misled. This 'music' is nothing more than an unglorified harmony exercise, totally derivative and full of clichés. Mr Witt is good at one thing, though: hiding the emptiness of the thematic material behind crafty instrumentation. This 'music' is of zero value.
@@organman52 I have never written ; " one can clearly hear Hummel or Witt" but " one clearly hear Mozart , Hummel and Gluck's influence which is different ! This music is not of "zero value" .. It seems things are " black or white" for you ..therefore you are unable to appreciate such a music ..
@@guillaumedabosville Correct. The names of Mozart and witt should not be spoken in the same sentence. There is simply no comparison - not even close. What you are probably not aware of is that music has a 'surface' and a miraculous connectivity thematically speaking. I would be happy to point out this feature in any work of Mozart [or any master composer] that you desire. At the same time, I can easily illustrate how witt's 'music' is ONLY surface music. There is nothing deeper.
@@guillaumedabosville black and white? hardly. I have spent the last 55 years studying the elements of the music of the master composers. There is none of that in the 'music' of witt. Have you looked deeply into the thematic connections within and between movements of a Mozart work? And please - let's not include the name of hummel with those of Mozart and Gluck. He simply does not belong to the elites.
O que eu noto nesta música é sobretudo falta de clareza. Não tem nada a ver com o prodigioso sentido de equilíbrio estrutural de Beethoven. Faz-me lembrar um pouco de Mozart, de Haydn, de Méhul, mas de modo menos conseguido. O primeiro movimento é tão desnecessariamente ruidoso e por vezes tão óbvio que deixo para outro momento de ócio ouvir os restantes... What I notice in this symphony is mostly lack of clarity. It has nothing to do with Beethoven's prodigious sense of structural equilibrium. It reminds me a little of Mozart, of Haydn, of Mehul, but less so. The first movement is so unnecessarily noisy and sometimes so obvious that I leave it to another moment of idleness to hear the rest ...
link to the history related to the painting on wikipedia. as usual kd picks a great musical score and pairs it with a great painting. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Suomenlinna.
