Friendly fire is important. 

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Can't believe stellar's already reached the "Moved to Japan" era of his youtube career. Time usre does fly

StellarJay I really need you to know that your videos are awesome and bring me joy.

Friendly FIre made one of the funniest moments in gaming for me.

I'm surprised this didn't mention TF2. TF2 also lacks team damage, but somehow it's both competitive and fun/silly. Probably due to taunts and the comedy culture that came from it, but the funny thing I noticed is that if there's no friendly fire, people will do whatever they can to make friendly fire. Somehow without being able to damage your own teammates, people find it funny to just use a killbind in comedic moments, or use teleporters as Engineer to troll their own team. Hell teammates have even kept Respawn doors open for the opposite team, and etc. Somehow TF2 players just got creative with it... but I think that's because we are all fundamentally insane after several several years. There are servers with friendly fire tho, and it's funny

If a shooter allows you to thrown nades into your teammates as they push to SUPPORT them, you know its a bad game "Enlisted" is really horrible example of this. you often have enemy tanks just shoot HE tank shells into objective from their spawnpoint where they cant be attacked due to game having diffrent "zoning" for each team to prevent spawnkills [ but at the same time, spawned players are fully immune to dmg for long time so its redundant]

MMM I FUCKING LOVE DRINKING JETFUEL

how did i just realize that the classroom is from nichijou

How dare you earn my sub. Fiend. Best of luck in your travels.

Also, in deep rock there is no limit on how many times you can revive your teammates, meaning you could C4 your friends as many times you want and still win the game

I bet having friendly fire in TF2 would be the biggest buff you could possibly give to spy.

Can’t believe this man clipped me on Battlebit. Still using the code man.

The fact that I found this video by looking for a clip of Lethal Company where a guy gets freaked out by a spider, and his friend was in the way of the exit, so he with zero hesitation shot his friend point blank with a shotgun to get past him. It was hilarious and everything great about friendly fire.

So nice to hear the correct opinion said back to you for 15 mins. Another great video

i'm so glad jay took a beak because it gave me time to watch nichijou and understand all the silly references

I love the friendly fire in Helldivers 2. I throw a 500kg at a swarm of bots, my friend runs towards said swarm of bots, they stop existing.

i think the issue with friendly fire, is that its always funny the first time. And then as it happens more and more its just not fun. Getting domed by my own teammate and waiting to respawn isn't fun. I think i'd uninstall overwatch and valorant if that shit had friendly fire. edit: I think its different for games that r meant to be played with the boys versus games you play with randos. Getting team killed by a random is very rarely funny but when ur with the boys no one is trying to make others have a bad time.

My favorite Deep Rock Galactic moment ive ever had was when the Gunner and Engineer both died in the same spot and managed to plant C4 on them before the Scout could get there. The stareoff between me and Scout was the longest 20 seconds of both our lives.

Step one jump Step two check friendly fire Step 3 check fall damadge

Literally what I needed rn

watched a grenade bounce off a termanid in helldivers. watched it tumble gracefully through the air. remembered I was 3 feet from said termanid. was liberated. 10/10 please add even more friendly fire.

U can't not love this man's videos. Like damn, bro made something I get annoyed at feel important and needed 👏👏👏

One time I had fun with friendly fire is when me, my cousin, who was visiting at the time, and my dad went to an arcade 1up. We played a beat em up Spider-Man game, where if there are no enemies on the screen, you can fight each other. Every single time we cleared a room or were told to move on, my cousin and I would look at each other and immediately start fighting each other. My dad would sometimes join in too.

As a big brawlhalla (another platform fighter similar to smash bros) player, team damage is an integral part of 2v2. If used well, team damage can let you hit your teammate back to the stage if they have no jumps to get there alone or stop their knockback as they inevitably fly towards the killbox with a weapon throw. However its important for balance because it makes team combos harder to pull off and as stellarjay said you have to be careful about spamming and your own positioning. On top of this some of my favourite and funniest moments in the game have come from me or a teammate either accidentally killing each other and throwing the game or thinking our win is so guaranteed that we stop 2v1ing the enemy and instead 1v1 each other leaving the last man standing to fight the remaining enemy. Needless to say ive lost a lot of elo from the last man standing not clutching up. But without team damage, the 2v2 experience would be so much less fun. Great video. Nice to see you back ❤❤

My only issue with friendly fire is randoms. Like you said people abused it and it was miserable because you either deal with someone ruining the game for you or getting kicked, thus ruining the game. I loved the funny moments team killing my friends in a call with me on accident, but with randoms that are for some reason so tempermental that even one stray bullet catching them will lead to them griefing the whole game its a problem. For example, I was playing insurgency PvE and there was a melee enemy about to stab my teammate in the back. I killed the enemy but a couple of bullets hit my teammate. He took that as an invitation to teamkill me every time I spawned for the rest of the game because "I didn't save his life, I shot him twice" since he didnt see the enemy

when you said "tether" I wet myself remembering almost cussing out my best friend for being so god damn slow in lego star wars

So there this party game called duck game. And it's my favourite game. It's just so fun. And it has friendly fire. Witch is hilarious. Because you play a bunch of quick rounds and you're just a one-shoot with any weapon. Making it really easy to kill your teammates. Sometimes you don't think about the fact that you have teammates and just shoot the person close to you withch might be your teammate. This creates this fun dynamic of you being scared of your teammate because they might shoot you on accident. And there's also a little time between the round ending and you getting your point. And the thing is you can die then and not get a point. But you've already won so killing your teammates doesn't really matter then. But sometimes two people think that and just shoot eachother at the same time. Which is hilarious because they just lost a free point. I definitely do agree friendly fire adds a lot to games.

Return of the King.

You really should've held off doing this video for a couple months so you could've included Helldivers 2

Helldivers 2?

Friendly fire is good but abusable. Trolls join games and ruin everything

Last month, I completed It takes two with my brother, and i loved sabotaging him in the chapter with nails, but seriously, by the end, the friendly fire turned off, and honestly, at that time the game did became a bit less fun just shows how friendly fire is very important

1:10 my mom was in the room 😭

4:46 WTF ARE THESE DESIGNS MY GUY 💀

Literally the most underrated channel on youtube. And I don't mean it metaphorically or rhetorically or poetically or theoretically or in any other fancy way... Dead serious 100%, the most underrated channel on youtube. And yeah I might have said this to multiple channels before, but never have I ever *truly* meant it, and definitely not as much as I mean it here.

I lile that in BG3 there's exactly one subclass out of 46 who's main features is that it removes your friendly fire and thus allows you to go completely nuts with the fireballs 😄

That sponsor segue was awful

"taking the friendly fire out of halo is like taking the demitia out of joe biden" the single best quote in all internet history

Please don't disappear for 2 months again, your videos are too good for that.

Friendly fire doesn't automatically mean complexity. There's a little game that's very unorthodox very underground niche, you probably nevaaaaah heard about it, it's called TEAM FORTRESS 2. Despite not having friendly fire enabled in game by default, it's still one of the MOST complex and fun team shooters in decades... So I don't see the hype behind friendly fire. Heck I don't get why it would be bad to remove it in CSGO(Ik it's now called CS2, but I don't wanna recognise how Valve ruined it for low pc gamers) since if there's no friendly fire means teams group up due to no fear of friendly fire right? WRONG. That makes you more vulnerable to ez kills via grenades... And as for fun factor, again let me remind you of TF2, this game is still the goofiest aah game with tons of funny moments, all achieved without friendly fire on. Really competitive players are the ones slowly trying to suck away the fun(aka random crit haters, people who want weapon bans, class restrictions etc)from the game and it wasn't the fault of Valve not allowing friendly fire. So yeah, not a bad video per say, but I still disagree with your conclusion. Feel free to comment or add anything I missed guys, I'm sure there are other fun games that don't have friendly fire on 😅

I wonder why you dislike tactical shooters? I personally prefer them to the boring ass COD style shooters. For some reason for me it’s ether tactical shooters or “boomer shooters” (although I fucking hate that term), and for some reason no in between. And on a side note, if you want a break from rigidity then just play singleplayer games, it also helps avoid stupid people (which tend to plague online games).

We live in a very weird time when a Battlefield clone with Roblox graphics made by 4 people is the gold standard for multiplayer shooters.

New super mario bros wii had one of the funniest friendly fires and it sucks that mario wonder removed it.

My man will love helldivers 2 one they get servers

11:45 I can’t remember this song for the life of me

So when's the Helldiver's 2 teamkill frag complementing video coming?

4:01 DID I SEE A ROCK AND STONE?

One time in Halo Infinite I was playing with a friend and he went for the sniper rifle. I was already standing over it so I grabbed it, stared at him and was like: "What, *this* sniper rifle? You want *this* sniper rifle?" We got killed after that.

I'm glad DRG made an appearence

its sad that helldivers 2 came out after this video(i think)

It’s good until you get that one teammate who abuses it, then everybody abuses it and ruins the game

me and my 5 stack in valorant ended up playing cs2 we ended up killing eachover till there was only 1 person who wasnt banned the biggest enemy in that game was OUR TEAMATES so while friendly fire is amazing just dont hand it to 5 idiots who are perma banned from cs2 comp

6:54 what's that game?

I only play Dota because you can friendly fire trough the mic

3:58 DEEP ROCK GALACTIC SPOTTED! ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE

I know for a fact you are gonna get more and more popular. you just makes sense in every video and im so glad i found your channel - a wizard of legend enjoyer

i like the way pavlov has ff because if you do it too much too fast it just kicks you from the lobby but you can rejoin, and pavlov has a vote system so if your a little bitch you can get kicked

A random game called helldivers is fun just because of FF. It forces you into a top-down camera shared between 1 to 4 players and you can't exit the cam (you can annoy your friends by not moving and having everyone stuck). And the fun part: nearly every action you do can hurt your friends such as calling in equipement dropped on the map at mach 1 on your friend...

I’m real sad this came out before helldivers 2, it is the fucking best.

Why did he have to put that music in at 8:17 bro just triggered ptsd

I was wondering if Thestellarjay was going to talk about Lethal Company because of his video on proximity chat and co-op "horror" games. So when I saw the game in the first few seconds of the video I knew that he was already on it 😂

most fun thing to do in fortnite back in the day was to kill all ur team mates in a squad match then camp in a bush the whole game to jump the last 2 groups who are fighting each other and getting the win

How did you forget to mention the whole genre defined by friendly fire, the grandfather of it all, beat em ups? Literally fighting your friends when they piss you off to decide a feud during downtime with actual game mechanics designed for it is awesome

Eh, no thanks, I'm good. (This goes for both friendly fire and gamersupps.) Team damage is just annoying with randoms. With friends, it can be funny, like when I'm messing around with friends in Gmod, firing crossbows at anyone who stands still is pretty funny.

As a Smash player, 2v2s without friendly fire are a race for who can choose the other team first

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Deep rock mentioned Rock and stone commencing ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE

One of my most vivid gaming memories is me and the boys playing SWAT4 for the first time. First level. First room we breach. Two of us take one doors, two the other one. We go in on the count of three: One. Two. Three! We kick down doors, one of my friends shouts "I've good boogey!"... and shoots me with a shotgun RIGHT in the face. We never realised the doors we were breaching were next to each other.

Old vid, but I'd also bring up intruder. I'd rather not go into a whole bunch of detail here, but it's a 2 team shooter that offers a complex tactical experience if that's what you want, or an absolutely chaotic mess if that's more your style. Either way, friendly fire is integral to the game. Funny moments if you're playing for chaos, and if you're playing even a bit more seriously (still usually pretty casual though) players aren't marked, so unless you can spot the tiny indicator of which team they're actually on you and an enemy could end up staring at each other for a bit, neither realizing the other is an enemy. Conversly, you bump into a teammate and don't realize it, and blow their head off. It also has permanent proximity chat, even when using a radio everyone nearby can hear you, so if you aren't careful you'll divulge all your plans to the enemy of they're nearby. I'd recommend checking out valefisk if you want to get more of an idea of what the game is exactly.

Friendly fire is important because it's a german charity live stream that is next week

in apex legends my friend and i used to punch each other, when one wasnt looking, off of cliffs and many times punching the other into a full squad and leave them to die shit was peak lmaooo

This was probably one of the few important aspects of gaming that was ruined not by the company but by the community mainly trolls who find it funny to ruin their teammate's fun by abusing friendly fire.

Deep rock galactic, I'm waiting for that video. I better see it soon

Whenever I play games I do something called “The Check” that is a totally original name and I totally didn’t make the name up on the spot. Anyways basically I check if certain aspects are in the game most commonly I check if there is fall damage and friendly fire which is what the video is about.Yeah there was no reason for me to comment this

I had an experience in helldivers 2 where me and a LEVEL 150 WERE HAVING A FULL ON WAR IN A WAR This started from us staring at eachother until HE initiated it by blowing my head off with a revolver, may i note this was the most fun i had in the game

Censorship and abusive mods being ban happy became more and more commonplace after games doing what counter strike did. "Push everyone away" is treated as the norm. People were taught it's "wrong" to have strong opinions. We used to have games where people could argue and feel and make up. etc. We rarely get that now. People struggle to enjoy the best because they're not even allowed to get through the worst. These days it takes a group of people banding up together to fight back. Which happened with Helldivers 2 when mods were on a power trip on discord.

halo 4, yeah thats right; halo fucking FOUR, did something cool basically if u kill a friendly, then the FRIENDLY YOU KILLED decides if you get a ban or not , rather than a nuanceless robot

good to have you back man!

Honestly, The only thing i disagree with here is the assessment that friendly fire can't work in large scale cluster-fucks like battlebit. It absolutely can. I am, or was, a big planetside 2 player, and that game is a one-of-a-kind open world MMOFPS that can see battles of hundreds of players in some very small play-spaces. I've been part of a fight during one of the last inter-server matches, that saw nearly 1,100 players in a space not much more than two rooms and a corridoor. I regularly see two or three faction fights with 96+ players on each side (in single bases) and friendly fire has been enabled for 11 years in that game. It works *really* well actually. Too much team damage will get your weapons locked, stopping you using most of anything for a short time, to discourage players from going on a friendly fire rage, which happens occasionally, but in all my years playing it's honestly never really been a problem. Relatively recently (like 2 years ago lmao), they reduced friendly fire to only 50% damage (which was widely regarded as a buff for one faction as we all know they have to share the one brain-cell), and it's not been the worst thing ever, but I've honestly felt the effects of it. Both myself and my friendlies are much less careful with how often we team-kill, and i think it's a big reduction in quality. I will always and forever be pro full-team-damage in games.

Here is a game without friendly fire. It is fully Co-op and doesn’t require a single fucking penny. WarFrame.

1:35 you made me spit my drink, well done sir

The Bird God finally returened! Thank you Sir Jay! Praise be!

I was so confused when you talked about rope till I saw the Lego star wars. Then I was immediately flash banged by memories and rage

Thank you jay, i am enjoying my anime girl thigh flavored water.

"WHY DID YOU SHOOT ME?" "To be fair, it was for the Vine... And your rage is way too funny not to..."

You can also blow up mines in battlebit for teamdamage, do with this info what you ever will

Bro wants a girlfriend yet his gamer supes drinks look like that, those two don’t mix my guy.

Jay really fell off. I think I need to turn my tether distance down to bring him back up.

Battlefield is THE most important game to have FF on in, and Battlebit is the same.

One of the best games that I played with friendly fire is Starwars Battlefront on Xbox. The Xbox before they knew there would be a second one. The way the ai is so stupid and unpredictable but also so sensible and organized forces you to stratigize everything you do or else you could let your team down. The enemy team is beating yours in a hallway? Grenade! But no, because you just blasted seven of your guys to Valhalla. You're trying to snipe, but you're in a crowd. It's ok, in fact, they could act as cover! They all run in front of your gun, and you kill them. It gives you so such a big sense of responsibility and the need to get good because if you're not killing the enemy, you're killing your team. And again, with the stratigizing, it helps immerse you in the game. It's literally Star WARs. You feel like an important figure in the midst of a war. (And it's funny as hell accedentally shooting your friend and seeing them on the leaderboard labled as nemesis)

i’d argue destiny 2 has friendly fire, you just need a sword, preferably one with eager edge

Ah yes the lethal company thumbnail while it’s only mentioned for not even a minutes in the video

Planetside 2 has larger lobbies than Battlebit and still has friendly fire. And there's still absolute mayhem in big fights.

I pretty exclusively play Hunt: Showdown and they do friendly fire pretty well. You just deal less damage to your friendlies. So you can shoot each other for the shiggles without (usually) dying and ruining your run.

Correction call of duty does have friendly fire but only in the hard core game mode

Why does he keep making fun of L4D2?? Good vid though

07:26 MY GUY HAVE YOU EVEN SO MUCH AS LAUNCHED DESTINY 2 This is a game Where I’ve been killed by my teammates And straight up randos in open world More times Than I’ve been killed in my Petra Runs. And I’ve had a shit ton of Petras. UPD: also yeah, Destiny is a clusterfuck of abilities and one titan could literally blast everyone into singularity G-spot with one arc ultimate.

What can I say - team damage is just funny. I play dnd and in a campaign with my friends I am notorious for taking more damage from my allies than my enemies - as much as I hate being downed because of it - it is monumentally funny to die from fall damage from a crows nest due to being on low health from getting slashed and burned in the face from them - only to get back up again - only to get hit with "acid" splash - get crazy nightmare hallucinations - and then get abducted after falling off the side of the boat - and then getting my eyebrows singed off after waking up again, my character fails the insight check to realise it was a prank and I think they saved me from something

What even is halo if my coop partner hasn't run me over with the warthog 17 times?

I think Foxhole does friendly fire very well. It serves an important gameplay function (gas, grenades and artillery will kill you, regardless of which team sent them), but you can still do it without getting banned for a laugh but people will know you did it and you'll lose weapon/vehicle privileges if you do it too much. Also, try Foxhole you'd probably like it.