Season 9 was just all over the place. First, you've got Joey's fake proposal, then you've got this mess, then lastly the whole "Rachel crushing on Joey" thing.
Rachel crushing on Joey is totally fair because he only ever supported her, I do think a lot of fans are somewhat delusional for not acknowledging the toxicity and paranoia in Rachel and Ross's relationship. The main reason I didn't like the season finale is because they absolutely shat on Joey by dragging this train wreck of a relationship back into it.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective All the female characters just got progressively worse and worse. Monica's negative traits were emphasized by tenfold after she got married, Phoebe transformed from a loveable silly character to a cruel bitch, and you were right, Rachel and Ross had a horrible relationship, but at least 70% of that was on Rachel.
The irony of rachel going out and meeting and kissing dudes while begging ross a few months earlier to not date any girls and be at her constant beck and call.
“Do you wanna go away for the weekend?” “We’ll see.” “You don’t have my phone number.” “You know what? If it’s meant to be, I’ll guess it.” 🤭 I love how blunt Ross is!
3:10 the irony of this coming from the woman who sabotaged every single one of Ross' serious relationships for almost half the show is hysterical. At least, Ross just hid away a phone number from some random guy and not somebody who Rachel was in a relationship with so it was a harmless act, he knew his boundaries, she never did.
Agreed. Rachel had no right scolding for Ross for hiding away a phone number she got a complete stranger when she sabotaged every one of Ross’ relationships. And not only that, but she demanded Ross to not date anyone while she was a pregnant and then neglected her baby so she kiss someone from work she barely knows. Ross was the victim here, but as usual, Rachel gaslights him and refuses to take responsibility for her actions.
"NONE OF THE SANE ONES WANTED TO COME BACK WITH ME" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA even in stressful situations, David Shwimmer's comedy delivery is ON POINT hahahahahaha
I don't know why but it's always the toxic relationships that people like the most be it any show or movie it's so frustrating. I liked phoebe and Mike
I like how Ross tries to get his life together. Has to try to deal with a divorce at first, his crush has feelings for him, he screws everything up, gets with his crush, breaks up with her, gets back together with her for a day, gets married, then divorced twice, someone eats the only good thing from his life, Marries his Ex GF while both drunk, then divorced three times, and he would barely spend time with his son, has a kid with his 3 ex wife, even though they arent together, try to spice things up, and she screws it by giving her number to a guy and kissing her coworker, and now this... and then tries to act Fine with his friend dating his ex wife, when he really wasn't.... If u think about it, ross went through the most hell out of all of his friends
This seems like Ross is reverting back to being petty and jealous even though they aren’t dating like he was in the first two seasons. He even kept a message from a guy back then too.
@@jays447 he should listen cuz Rachel asked him to be an involved father not her husband lol Also it was the final month of pregnancy where father was needed but he was busy dating around instead of focusing on the baby...
It's not jealous.It's the fact that when Rachel wanted to come up there to talk about "us" But it didn't seem to cross her mind when she kissed that guy and decided to go to bars and meet guys. It's bad that Ross did not give that message to her, but it's the idea that he's the one taking care of the child.While rachel is out there doing that stuff
Ross was being possessive and melodramatic, but Rachel was definitely in the wrong here for not letting Ross know sooner about kissing Gavin on the balcony and giving her number to some random guy from the bar. It’s honestly really pathetic how she cares more about not getting a message from some stranger and not about her daughter’s wellbeing. That’s Rachel biggest problem. She refuses to accept responsibility for her actions and instead gaslights Ross into thinking everything is his fault.
There were both in the wrong but ever since the 'not proposal' incident everything was left up in the air which wasn't good for either of them it was all bound to come to a head like this at some point.
@@imogenonscreen8054 But the thing is Rachel told Ross to not date anyone while she was pregnant and yet she went behind his back and kissed someone else from work. Total hypocrisy and one of the many reasons why Ross didn’t deserve Rachel.
@@n19ntendods but that was only while she was pregnant and like I said the real problem was neither of them were brave enough to talk to each other about their feelings until it was too late. Also everyone forgets about the one with pediatrician where Ross tried to chat up that single mother in the waiting room until he blew it by trying to cover up that he was the patient and that was long before the stuff Rachel did.
@@imogenonscreen8054 It’s honestly really frustrating how she cares more about not getting a message from some stranger and not about her daughter’s wellbeing. That’s Rachel biggest problem. She constantly refuses to accept responsibility for her actions and instead gaslights Ross into thinking everything is his fault. She’s so toxic and selfish!
Why does Rachel need to let Ross know about Gavin or the guy from the bar? Why do u think she didnt have Emma's wellbeing in mind ? Rachel can have sex with a 100 guys a week , its nothing to do with Ross. She is still raising her daughter.
I'm with Ross on this.. Rachel is too spoiled and selfish no matter before pregnant or after.. in the list of Ross's wife, she's the last one in terms of attitude and responsibilities 😌😂
Why cant Rachel go on dates and have sex with a 100 guys per week if she wants to? They arent in a relationship together. what right does he have to have any say on what she does with her personal time?
@@MarathonRunner432 What? Rachel asked Ross to not date anyone else DURING pregnancy. Ross never asked Rachel to never date anyone ever again once the baby was born. What are you talking about ?
As weird and cringey as Michelle was, she was absolutely hilarious! I especially lost at 0:24-0:30! “This is you daughter? I could be your new mommy!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
In this scene I hated that Rachel has the audacity to ask Ross, "who are you to decide what message i should get?" This selfish brat in the first place asked Ross not to date anyone when she was pregnant and he agreed, but she went on to date Cash and that was ok...and in the Emily situation, she was the one to bring Ross and Emily together so that Rachel can go on a date with Joshua..but when Ross decided to move on with her, she ruined it...she even spoilt Ross's whole plan for dinner with Emily so that she can get Joshua to like her... Rachel is the most selfish character in this series
Ross has no authority over her and it's ross who has the audacity to be a big hypocrite and expect others to bow down to him Rachel was in her last month of pregnancy and she wanted ross to be an involved father not be her husband Emily divorced ross cuz he was not willing to make her, his first priority as his wife and that's why she left him He was a horrible boyfriend to all the women he dated, worst one in the show...
Ross would be an involved father whether he was with someone else or not, same like he's involved in his son Ben's life... Rachel is the one who broke him up with Julie and Bonnie...Most selfish character on the show
@@sajiadam1672 and you are wrong again, he was an absent not properly involved father to his forgotten child ben, even Ross's father forgot he had a grandson cuz ross is not around ben, he is already a bad father and he should do better for emma, also ross cheated on both Julie and Bonnie and was only using these amazing women like tissue paper, as i said a horrible boyfriend to all the women he dated and again he has sabotaged Rachel's relationships and career always, worst character is the fiction pretending to be a good guy but is beyond horrible one 🤷🏻♂
Do you have a selective memory?! Ross dated while she was pregnant. Have you forgotten about Mona? Rachel didn’t even stop them dating even though the jerk Ross got her pregnant and couldn’t properly step up to the plate. Only the last month of her pregnancy she asked him not to date. After the baby was born they still didn’t get back together so she moved on. The guy that she kissed she dated for a week. Ross brought a woman home who he just met. Rachel had a point. Ross brought a strange woman back to their apartment. As far as Rachel giving a guy her phone number. That’s just a phone number she didn’t bring him back to her place. They would have actually dated, you know the way normal people do. Ross himself said this woman that he brought back to his place was weird.
@@XieLian-lv1xiHOW is gonna be Ross a father to Emma if Rachel: Accepts a fake proposal, flirts with random guys at bars, and kisses a coworker? Did you born being stupid or are you training? Do you even know what means be a father? Or a mother?
@@fernandogonzalezfarinas9685 he is already a absent not involved father to his forgotten child ben, what can be expected for Emma? While Rachel was pregnant he already flirted, dated and fuc*ed mona in front of Rachel showing how much of a clown he is, if he was serious about Rachel he should have shown his seriousness from the very beginning that's why Rachel is ready to date and find a partner... Now take your pathetic dumb comment away and go watch the show, go away shu
Of course Rachel is a problem. First, she told Ross not to date anyone. He agreed. After the child was born, she kissed one guy, gave her phone number to another and date didn't mention anything to Ross. No wonder he was pissed off when he saw her kissing Gavin. And here? Even before Rachel found out about the message, she gets mad because he brought a woman into his apartment. Of course, she wasn't going to tell him about Gavin or the guy from the bar, that they both can date again. Ok. It's not fair Ross hid that message from her. But anything else here is purely Rachel's fault. He's right to be angry. She doesn't before she found out about the message. But she was.
Wow Rachel is such a gaslighter, like why would Ross give her the number. He’s obviously felt betrayed that she’s dating behind his back. N she is hanging on to that to flip no harm done blame on Ross. Seriously she’s such a psycho.
He has no authority over her and he is beyond hypocrite and toxic to not give her that no, they were not dating and she was free to date whoever she wanted like the same way ross already dated mona during Rachel's pregnancy but Rachel was never whining or crying like him
I don't care about who's right or who's on who's side and why and what they did in the past. Regardless of living together or not, they were not in a relationship. That means they are allowed to see other people without the other having a problem with it, and yes if it means the other has to watch Emma for the night then that should be okay and they should discuss reasonable amounts of time when they each can have a break and go out. Each getting equal time with the kid regardless of if they go on a date and kiss someone on a balcony or go to their friend's place to watch tv. And if they both want to go out the same night, then they have plenty of friends and grandparents to watch her for the night.
She asked him to be there for her and Ema and not date anybody else as far I remember. And what she is doing since she brings Mark home knowing that that's the problem number one? Ruining everything. Horrible person.
Rachel is so toxic. I mean she goes after joey for friendly support and right of the bat she already mocks him and his eyebrows. Seriously the more i see this character the more cringe she gets
She is fine and a very good friend with flaws, all characters have been mean and selfish towards each other, and looks like you don't have friends who are open and fool with you and Rachel & Joey were absolutely end game but writes wanted that toxic R&R
I love Rachel, she's my favorite character from the show. And I like Ross a lot, he's a great friend and brother in the group. But their relationship is a really bad and messed up thing. It's toxic and hurting and we all know they broke up 5 minutes after the show ended. They really just work as friends
@@fayemckither3107 Nope. Joey had two seasons and in it he said they got married and had another child. You guys just wanna hate on Rachel and Ross, and try to deny it. So go ahead 🤣
In my opinion, though it isn't right that Rachel has ruined so many serious relationships with the women Ross has been with, it doesn't excuse the fact that Ross should do the same when it came to hiding the phone number. It doesn't matter if they both have feelings for each other. If neither of them is making an attempt, don't stand in the way when the other wants to explore different relationships. Ross can date whoever he wants, and so can Rachel. I don't like that Ross even uses Emma as a defense and acting like Rachel hasn't cared for her as well. Their both good parents, but they are parents who aren't married or dating. Therefore, they have every right to date anyone and still be a parent. It's sad there's people like Ross and Rachel in this type of situation
It's true that they both have the right to date anyone but Rachel asked Ross to not date for a while, and he complied. So a little heads up from Rachel would've been the right thing to do. Ross is wrong for hiding that message but that's the only thing he was wrong about. The rest was Rachel being unfair and unreasonable.
@@Ejgrunt No she didn't. She asked him not to date WHILE she was pregnant (close to labour, remember Ross dated Mona in the start of her pregnancy). But then it was the end of her pregnancy and she was scared and wanted to have Ross by his side the minute she goes into labour.
and people say rachel was the only one who's jealous. and also the fact that he is throwing into rachels face for going out one time like what an asshole
Going out one time 😂 are you really bicthing yourself. You see how quickly that bitch changed her tone from "It was just one time, one guy" to "why you didn't gave me that's Guy's call". So definitely it's not one time and one guy. Bitch is flexing her victim card than telling the truth that she's actively cheating on him
The audacity and nerve ross has to always trying to control Rachel, he is the biggest hypocrite to ever exist, already dated mona during Rachel's entire pregnancy leaving Rachel alone and then stops her from dating when it's Rachel's turn, joey was a far better man than ross, ross is beyond toxic manipulative and horrible She wanted him to be Emma's father and be present during final month of pregnancy at no point she wanted him back as her husband or boyfriend, she is free to date whoever she wants, yup
Ross is the biggest hypocrite, he dated Mona shamelessly when Rachel was pregnant but now when it's Rachel's turn he starts whining and crying, poor emma deserves a better involved father, oh we almost forgot ross already has a forgotten son named ben lol
The only reason this didn’t work is cuz both of them weren’t being completely honest with one another. Ross was always in love with her and she felt the same but the trust was broken from him cheating but they cud never fully ever get over each other. They wud have had to have no contact with each other ever again in order to get over each other and once they had a baby together that was never gonna happen. They wud always be in each other’s lives at some capacity and honestly cudnt live without each other in a way. Couples fight that’s a fact but a lot of these fights were cuz they weren’t in a relationship which is what both of them wanted deep down. I don’t think they were toxic they were immature in their relationship and both had problems. Lol
what's wrong with us...?? no what's wrong with you Rachel! she never gets what the point is and even always do gasliting and blaming others to excuse herself in everything everytime.
Nothing wrong with her, he brought a stranger to his apartment a big threat to Rachel and Emma, she made the correct decision to move in with joey, ross is beyond horrible and manipulate, emma should grow around healthy people which ross is not
To be honest, it doesn’t matter if they were on a break or not or if Ross sleeping with another woman was right or not or if Rachel giving her phone number to a random guy or kissing Gavin was right or not. What matters is that both Ross and Rachel messed up their relationship and they both acted immature about it, both don’t want to admit it and let it go, because Ross can’t can’t get over his first divorce and Rachel was being selfish and inconsiderate about his feelings. I know you all think it’s stupid, but to me it’s not and I think the real truth is that you all don’t want to accept the truth. At least I’m being honest. The real problem is that you guys don’t know when to be honest and accept it. More over all, if Rachel really wanted to get back together with Ross, then she should’ve admit that the breakup between her and him was her fault too, not just Ross alone. But no, she chose to be selfish and inconsiderate and very insensitive to other people including on Ross as well. And again, Rachel has no right to treat Ross like crap. Also how did Ross treat every women so badly? From what I watched in the show, he always tries to be the best boyfriend he could be, but Rachel kept getting in the way. Also, it seems perfectly clear that Ross was really serious about wanting to start things up again with Rachel, but her selfish actions kept making things hard for him from wanting to go for it and more importantly Rachel’s the one who keeps taking him for granted. And again, if Rachel wanted to start dating again after the pregnancy, then the one thing she should’ve done was talk to Ross, but she chose not to and lied about it. I know Ross hiding the guy’s message was a bad move, but he wouldn’t have do it if Rachel could’ve been honest with him. That what’s why Rachel is the bad one too and not just Ross. If you don’t believe me, read these links: screenrant.com/friends-rachel-worst-friend-moments/ www.thedailystar.net/shout/news/rachel-green-friends-bad-friend-3113656?amp www.cbr.com/friends-worst-things-rachel-to-ross/ www.wionews.com/web-stories/entertainment/hollywood/-7-reasons-rachel-is-the-worst-friends-character-1688038832872 screenrant.com/friends-rachel-green-aged-poorly-fans-hate/ reelrundown.com/tv/Rachel-Is-the-Worst-Friend-The-Definitive-List fandomwire.com/friends-6-times-rachel-was-the-most-toxic-friend-ever-to-ross/ screenrant.com/friends-ways-rachel-green-got-worse/ screenrant.com/friends-rachel-green-things-fans-ignore/
She acted like a easy girl who would be with anybody who gave her attention. The worst season ever. Plus after all these crap that she made, she walked to Joey like some pore single mom who was kicked out by a evil father of her child. When you look all together, i don't know why he ended up with her at the end.