@@Aman_Mondal im assuming you're talking about action shounen/shonen not actual shounen/shonen bc a shounen/shonen anime is any anime where the intended demographic/audience are mainly male/boy
Probably a kid who got drowned in modern battle shounen anime and probably most of it are isekai. He need to watch more of other anime genres to broaden his perspective.
I read that post he even says that the production team just keeps making "filler" rather than focusing on the story arcs, I was like those "filler episodes" are the main story, Frieren is not about the fighting scenes even though it has great fights but about the story and character development. There are always people like that, if an episode is not fast paced and full of action it immediately becomes filler for them.
The production team just make "filler"? That means they are adapting the Manga properly lol. Because I could spot no real Filler in the Anime. That dude doesn't even know what Filler means. Also if done properly true Filler can be even good. See Vinland Saga were Yukimura gave the production team guidance to give more context and background story how Thorfinn started his journey with Askeladd
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo So that is why he started his campaign against anime related topics even when is not the topic he is talking about? Because BritVenti? lmao
Arifureta, konosuba, Kumo desu ga, remonster, Yondome, Dungeon Seeker, Honzuki no gekokujou, Youjo Senki, Digimon, Mushoku Tensei, Shield Hero, even in tesura the MC is weak at first. Granted they tend to get op real fast but it's not that often that the MC is op right after getting isekaid.
I think people keep associating OP Isekai protagonists with Kirito among other boring Gary Stu's. Despite these kinds are extremely rare and no one like these characters anyway
But tbf majority of them start out overpowered. And that's not bad, what's bad is the bad writing. You could make good histories with overpowered characters. An example of this is Overlord that shows the struggles of the people fighting Ainz. Other example is the serious hero(forgot the exact name), that makes a good comedy while also having an actual history behind it. But I agree there's a lot of good isekais with no overpowered characters and TBYS just decided to not watch them.
Chibi is technically wrong. His favorite series until Gushing Over Magical Girls dethrone FMAB for an entire month. It was the greatest moment in MAL History.
A little background on Think Before You Sleep. He makes essay video on people or topic which some arent too bad. But I've seen him talk with other creators and he's not really too fond of anime. He definitely has a certain view and opinions on anime. So never take him seriously when it comes to anime.
His takes on gaming are really bad too, I remember one video where he started ranting about relationships in media and he started trashing Naruto and FF7 remake for some reason and many people in the comments were confused by it
Just ignore his anime and gaming videos/topics in general tbh. Most (not all, and still that’s a slim most) of the other things I have seen from the channel is aight.
@@weskintime4177 He has alright takes on his channel for the most part, it's within his field, but his takes anywhere else about anything that is even slightly out of his field is just completely irredeemably negative IQ trash.
Most people assume "Shonen" is just battle anime. Although Frieren doesn't really fit the demographic either, as it touches on many topics that aren't going to resonate at all with the teenage boy demographic.
I wouldn’t even say Frieren is a Shonen because I don’t think younger people would enjoy it, more about learning about life than just dopamine injections into your brain
"You have 1,000 year old autism elf who has watched many of her friends die. Is she ever going to show any emotion over any of it?" This guy didn’t even watch the first episode of the show lmao
In each of the first 2 episodes, she cries over a friend dying. His rant definitely reads like someone who, at best, had the show playing in the background while he was doing something else.
Nah fr. Literally the VERY FIRST episode, she cries over not getting to know Himmel better and already begins her character arc of wanting to know humans in general despite their shorter lifespans
TBYS claims to understand psychology, proceed calling people who doesn't communicate much or have trouble conveying words or feeling as autistic. The one I remember he called Cloud autistic because he has trouble communicating with his friends, forgetting the entire character arc of Cloud throughout the entirety of FF7. Claim he has somewhat "nerdy" hobbies my ass, dudes a tourist to the core.
The clown grifted in a community this site probably won't let me say the name, backstabed said community, married venti, got played and wants to act like nothing happened. He learned nothing and still has smooth brain takes.
@@anonisnoone6125 as for how he got played. He married venti, despite her past being well known. Chitin chazz made a video on that if you want to know more.
Calling stark a "red haired zenitsu" is insane considering stark is an afraid character done right and zenitsu is just a fucking annoying loser with wasted potential compared to stark T_T
Stark is just a normal human, who wouldn't be scared to fight a goddamn Dragon or Demon? Zenitsu couldnt even fight himself, he passed out every time until way later 😅
Zenitsu is both simultaneously my favorite and most hated character in Demon Slayer. Whenever he is calm and quiet he is so cool, but when he is annoying he is beyond annoying.
@@hido... i loved him at the start, wanted him to grow both as a person and in power, 4 season in and he cant even fight without passing out, zero character growth T_T
We have to go to Mordor to destroy the one ring. Hmm, sounds like an isekai, except the protagonist is from the place where the story takes place. You know, the sekai.
You see, that was the question in my head all the time, that I wanted to ask him: if Frieren is an "isekai", where is the other world part? The moment when the protagonist or side characters remember of they lives BEFORE the events on the present timeline? We got Frieren flashbacks, but all them are in the SAME world. All the character are part of the same world view and history. It's like the guy just don't want to see and jumped straight to the hate train. It's so bizarre. That thing in the end is also very weird, the guy is literally defending demons because racism? Excuse me. What?
@@igodreamer7096 Defending demons 😂 If he would have watched the anime he would have known that demons are a variant of smart mimics. Basically venus flytraps that bait humans by screaming "Save me" 😂 This demon supporter has the same vibe as "zombies are people" guys.😅
What is wrong with people? Why is nearly everyone using the term isekai wrong? And it isn't just people who are unfamiliar with anime either. Even anime fans are starting to do it, including big named ones like Gigguk and CDwagVA. If you can't use a word in the right way, don't use it at all.
Well tbh you should blame it to all of those garbage transported/reincarnated into another world series which most people associated with the word isekai.
It's not very hard to imagine why people do that though? Literally 99% of modern/trash isekai take place in a generic medieval fantasy world so any anime that takes place in a generic medieval fantasy world will just be brushed off as being "just another isekai"
A few fantasy series are written or at least the anime was produced in the same vein as trashy isekai. Do you remember that one series where the MC gains the special OP ability to unlock skills and to gain skill points he needs to be aroused by like kissing and stuff? Yeah that was a fantasy, but that description is god awful and is reminiscent of trashy isekai. Fantasy series need to be better otherwise they are just comparable to the worse of isekai which has a similar framework. A few too many fantasy series that have been produced give the MC something special and OP that makes them standout. Some fantasy series even incorporate status screens as a normal part of the world that everyone has, but that feels too game like that no one treats it as fantasy. Anyway those isekai are technically still fantasy series while the fantasy series are not isekai usually. Isekai only needs to be in another world. Fantasy worlds just tend to be the most common for trashy isekai because magic and elves are cool.
A good example of an early Isekai would be Haibane Renmei. More slice of life than hero's quest and heavy themes of redemption, regret, loss. Plus very slow paced but well worth viewing.
Haven't watched the video yet, but I'm not surprised this is about TBYS. I remember him making what seemed at first like a very good video explaining the influence of wokeness on modern culture, and among other things he brought up the oversexualization of women in 2000s media, which I wholeheartedly agree was an issue as even my kid self thought at the time it reached ridiculous levels (you'd see some 7/10 and 8/10 girls being called "fat" or "ugly" and it was incredibly silly at best). But then he brought up anime fan service and claimed this is more of the same... yeah, imagine comparing and conflating the exploitation of women by the Holywood machine, with drawings. Oh, and he also claimed fan service led to "p o r n addiction" or something like that. I couldn't even finish the video after that point.
He's one of the few people that reminds me that I'm more of a centrist. As much as i don't like the far left today due to them being offended when it comes fan service. I have to remember that the right are also guilty of trying to censor as well in the past.
I would have to agree with the fan service, especially if other medias of the same work can make their own content without the heavy need or any use of fan service and are still wildly successful. While one is just a drawing, it brings to question as to why many popular media has fan service where it doesn’t need fan service/is detrimental to the story/scene to include fan service. Fan service has its uses, but like how laugh tracks aren’t applicable to all jokes neither should fan service be used for all vaguely sexual scenes/general situations.
@@mariachi3217 It's not really that deep, it all boils down to simple supply and demand; you can dislike fan service all you want, but if most people really hated it so much that it ruined the whole experience for them, it'd be reflected in the sales, especially with long-running franchises. If anything, the fact that so much popular stuff has fan service in it kinda answer your question.
Gen Z anime watchers have completely forgotten that Fantasy anime is a thing and that not all fantasy anime are isekai lmao. This is what happens when all fantasy anime’s for over a decade are Isekais.
Many fantasy anime’s I’ve seen in the early 2010s are at least more well made than what’s been rehashed today. They’re not as popular but very much well made.
This might be a hot take but if u genuinly watched frieren and think it is less than a 8/10 this genre is prob just not for u. Its like forcing “battle anime" fans to watch a horimya for example. In no world would they ever think it is good and thats ok.
@@renotv3860 i wasn’t really talking abt this guy specifically but also a lot of people like that. The same was with spy family and oshi no ko both of their first episodes targetted a large audience but in the end it wasn’t what some people had in mind meading it to be called overrated and mid even tho they weren’t the targetted audience. This is also just an example but my point being that i do not understand why people would go out of their way to hate on something because its not what they expected it to be
Reminds me about the people who have watched all seasons of Reincarnated as a Slime and still complain about it being "boring" in the comments instead of just dropping the show.
@@Dummma fr like if u just watch for the action the show just isn't for u ok s3 had a lot of meetings and discussions but so what if u don't like it stop watching
His whole complaint is just pure 'tism in a literal sense. I think he has a concrete picture in mind of how he thinks a plot of a story like this should be structured, and any deviation from that mental image, positive or not, infuriates him. This is particularly evident with the Sein remark. Just genuine lack of comprehension of storytelling for anything more complex than crayon shin-chan
Ah yes... Think Before You Sleep, aka Think Before You Date E-Girls. The dude who went out with Brittany Venti who convinced him that she wasn't going to have bedroom fun with him BEFORE marriage. She's a HUGE non-virgin, mind you. He also disrespected his own fan base and turned on the very people who built him up. We all warned him that Venti was using him He ignored us. Look at him now. Making basic mistakes like this. *sigh*
Chibi, I have to make a small correction for you. The concept of demons/ demon lords, or there being absolute evil in stories is not "a few centuries old" (unless you happen to view time like Frieren does). The concept of there being absolute evil in the world is as old, if not older, than human civilization. He defended the demons in Frieren. He probably thinks that the goblins in Goblin Slayer are an oppressed minority that were falsely accused of doing, what the goblins do, in that show.
The issue is that not everyone agrees what absolute evil is. Some see it to be per individual some with higher powers like demons and hell or ragnarok or something. Even the Bible’s depiction isn’t entirely absolute evil but rebellion and greed. Evil for the sake of evil is what absolute evil is generally agreed to be. Real life cases, folklore, myths and legends, and old religious texts all have their own interpretations of absolute evil. And here comes another idea, natural behaviors interpreted as evil intentions (frieren demons even said it’s essentially natural for them, a way of survival). Similar to how sharks gained their reputation. Nature doesn’t see good or evil but purely living and propagating.
@@mariachi3217 Please go take a reading comprehension course. I simply stated that the CONCEPT of absolute evil EXISTS, and that it is as old, if not older than human civilization. In the context of the video, Chibi stated that the concept has been in literature for a couple hundred years. Bringing in a moral relativism argument is pointless, as it does not change the fact that the concept of absolute evil does exist in this world. I did not advocate that one individual's, or one culture's definition of it was correct or incorrect. I just stated that it exists, and has existed for a very long time. Similarly, the CONCEPT of humanoid extraterrestrial life exists. I did not say that there are humanoid extraterrestrials. I stated that the concept, the idea of them, does exist.
Frieren is more slice of life to me that just so happens to be mixed with shonen. You got action and plenty of booba with Frieren's slow, relaxed way of living.
from the begining to the mage exam arc is a prolog. after that start as a shounen. when you more close to the north than more close to the demon and yeah arc after arc more action then before.
@@spritvio639 we only got like two booba scene in frieren, first being frieren wondering how Fern can grow "Bigger" than her despite eating the same food, and second for that scene of frieren looking up the sky while laying her head on Fern's lap then half of her view got blocked by the booba. But yeah the doujin and fan art blow out the lewd aspect of the mostly calming journey.
Man, you have no idea how much I miss watching Frieren on Saturday mornings after a run with my dog enjoying my favorite curry snack and dessert. But that dude you're talking about might actually need some decent sleep, cause what he's spewning can only be attributed to sleep deprivation.
Frieren is an adventure anime that aims to show all parts of an adventure, including the more grounded parts. It's not filler just because nothing exciting is happening the story tells you that these small things apart of a hero's journey is just as important as beating thr main boss
@@nobodyshome6792 you sound like you are describing how Spider-man 4 should have been. The creator of Frieren is a freak tbh the spider-man X venom yoai they made live rent free in my head all the time
Tell me you're new to anime and don't know the terminology, without telling me you're new to anime and don't know the terminology. Think before you sleep:
Ahh anime tourists telling the anime community what anime is... Almost makes me miss the pile of weeaboo trash that tells me the current anime season is the best anime ever made.
As manga reader, Frieren has no filler. It’s is a completely faithful adaptation. People will call anything that isn’t some dramatic plot advancing episode filler. People’s minds are so fried they can’t just watch a simple side adventure
"Frieren is gonna be forgotten in a year" brother I listen to Yuusha nearly everyday ain't no way am I forgetting this series with their god level animation, god level ost, amazing writing, amazing characters
Do not forget that it currently boasts the BEST AI/CGI animation around right now. (Granted there isn't that much of it, it is still leagues above others in terms of quality and implementation.)
"Isekai" translates to "different world". Characters can go to different worlds from other means. A device is the most basic. The Pretty Cure can do that without killing themselves.
@@seabookarno1664 It's one of the oldest genres in humanity lol. If you want by anime standards, stuff like Inuyasha counts as an isekai, using magical Feudal Japan compared to the modern world by Kagome. If you want older, Alice in Wonderland is a Western classic that by all accounts would count as an isekai.
@@amandaslough125 Oldest genre in humanity, sure. It's became boom in japanese pop culture? Also true. Yes, Inuyasha counted as isekai because the heroine was transported into mythical Japan. Why I said reincarnation as transportation method was a recent troupe? Because your example like Alice in Wonderland just simply transported or summoned. Alice just transported via rabbit hole. Narnia using the magical wardrobe. Inuyasha? the old well. Dunbine? Summoned by one of Byston Well's king via Aura Road. Digimon series? Summoned into digital world. Then after Mushoku Tensei LN got it popularity in Japan other authors also using reincarnation as method to transport the mc from his/her previous world. Before that, most of story which now can be categorized as isekai only use dimensional portal to transport the mc into another world.
@@kurokishizx oh really, then why did Chibi make an entire video about how said anime dethrone FMAB and gleefully talked about how it was a monumental moment.
Mouth breather: Frieren is not a shounen, it's an isekai. Chibi: Ok I don't even have time to tell you how wrong you are. Actually, it's gonna bug me if I don't.
Lmao. People are stupid. I remember 20 years ago anime community felt like an elite closed club. Now it feels that all the riff ruffs are here. People simply don't know shit. I thought it is bad to gatekeep and behave as an elitist. But maybe it was how it is supposed to be
You can never not gatekeep a community. To not gatekeep a community just means letting someone else gatekeep, and you might not like who does it in place of yourself.
Used to like his videos, but after this clown take I'm unsubbing, when I read his tweets about Frieren I was like "WTF!", how could someone get something so wrong on so many levels, ffs XD
Same I seen vids from other RU-vidrs on my recommendations that he's toxic but I didn't unsubscribe cos I gave the benefit of the doubt but this is just wtf was he even thinking😒😒😒.
fr, I don't know why his anime takes of all things are so unhinged. Something as simple as this is making me question him as a person more than anything he has ever posted
He gives pretty good advice for improving ones own image, but his media takes have been awful. He was also dating Brittany Venti who has equally dumb media takes.
I subscribed to TBYS years ago and enjoyed his commentary on social issues as he presented his points in such a reasonable manner. To see such a stupid and nonsensical take on anime from him is appalling. I recently started RU-vid, in some part thanks to him, and I analyze storytelling-its importance, significance and how it resonates with people. Frieren is one of those stories that resonate deeply with people. So many individuals have benefitted, obtained value, and ultimately improved their lives through this work of fiction. To see such visceral distain and hate for something so positive is despicable; worse yet, that his sole purpose for doing so is the fact that it has a positive impact on people. Well, I guess the old adage is true, “Never meet your heroes.” I would never talk negatively about stories or art on my channel. I only want to bring value to people as a RU-vidr.
I dropped him after he called Cloud autistic, forgetting the entire character development for Cloud. It's like reading DSMV and then tick the checklist. Practically did the same thing as woke developer did, but with mental illness instead of skin color.
isekai is different than fantasy, it means "another world", so the story must takes place in another world than protagonist's home world to qualify as an "isekai", that's why Sci-Fi isekai and reverse isekai exist as well
@@pinga869 Well, technically Yu Yu Hakusho is an isekai. Yusuke is introduced to the spirit world, which is by definition another world. Because of the huge trend of isekai the last several years being basically the same basic idea, it's become overfilled with trash, but that doesn't mean iskeai = trash automatically. There's even good more recent isekai. One of my favorites has been The Faraway Paladin, which walked so Frieren could run. It's an isekai with few, if any, of the modern trash isekai tropes and is just pure fantasy. It really deserves more attention.
These types have been around since the days of Compuserve and AOL, where the term for them was Baiter. They start off as Apprentice Baiters, then become Journeyman Baiters and this one has achieved the rank of Master.
This guy also does not know what filler is. Every episode in this show is adding either to char development/building, world building, Theme exploration from different perspective etc. Very often the episodes do more than one of those elements. Even the fight scenes do so. Like Whirbel who uses magic to postpone the death of his enemies cause he is not natural born killer.
Frieren has good story and action but that's not the main focus, the focus is the characters, complex characters but relatable characters. the "filler" is not in the slightest filler just because there's limited action or plot progression because they're not the focus, the characters are. I really feel saddened that a series with such character depth as Frieren especially Frieren herself has somehow been construed to be a classic action isekai despite by very definition not being so or containing a plot progression resembling such. I mean if it were to be an isekai it wouldn't begin at the end of the heroes journey with the Demon King already slain, Frieren is very powerful because she is at the end of the adventure but we even see that some humans have already began to overtake her.
"Filler" for most of these people just means that there isn't the 50th consecutive explosion happening on the screen for them. Freiren isn't personally for me but I really appreciate the quality in the writing and animation which some of these nut jobs won't ever appreciate.
@@BlueBlast-mw7fr There is a difference between having different taste and shitting on people for liking it and never acknowledging the good in it. If you actually properly read my comment you would even realize I said this is not for me and also said that people like Think before you sleep for doing what I was saying, shitting on people for liking it.
@@BlueBlast-mw7fr Why are you just taking certain parts of the argument and ignoring the rest? I'm not saying people are nutjobs for disliking a show, I'm saying that people like "Think before you sleep" are hating on the show for superficial (and inaccurate) reasons while simultaneously trashing on people for liking it. I don't care for the fact that if those types of people like or dislike the show, that's not the point. I care when they hate on it for again, superficial and inaccurate reasons while simultaneously insulting the people who do like it.
Yeah TBYS fell off a long time ago, and the whole community he used to associate with now despises him for being a grifter. The fact he's still being a grifter in a different online community doesn't surprise me.
Frieren is basically a slice of life shonen. It has its action moments but it’s mostly a lot of nothing happening. I can understand why people find it boring but also why people like it.
There's a lot of things happening, but not in the "action/fighting" sense. Mainly, it's about Frieren redeeming herself: she cherish her companions more (their lifespans are vastly different); she regrets about what she did and didn't do - especially with the things related to Himmel (romance); she's previously live a life for granted, and now she's valued each moment more. She's still imperfect, but that's what make her more humanely and relatable. And Himmel the "fake" hero. It's similar to Tomioka Giyu (Kimetsu no Yaiba). Stark the coward/unconfident, but has a strong principle hero. Like others have said, it's about characters development.
@@orenjineko646 it’s hard to find a good story without character development existing in the first place , now whether frieren does it better than others is a different discussion. But it’s not a story for everyone. As I said before some find it boring some enjoy the slow paced adventures
1/4 or more of the chapters are battle and many arc are heavy focus on battle... battle and the battle system is very important in frieren... also a lot happening there is a big world build and a lot of subplot, mystery and great political intrigues too
TBYS really needs to keep his anime opinions to himself, cuz every time he speaks about anime, he has the objectively WORST takes ever. I liked some of his content, but he's stretching himself a lil thin. Maybe it's intentional rage bait to milk content, idk.
Filler and anime original content are two different things. It just so happens that most anime original content is filler. I know that’s not what you are talking about, but I felt it needed to be said.
Filler is anime only episode to FILL. A broadcast episode slot. This been definition for decades. Recent slow filler episodes for popular series had fans stating these filler are poor and slow and folk like you thought that the definition. But back in hundred plus episode days there were filler seasons even and many very high action, filler can be high action and some of it very good. But back in old days filler done without author input so often poor. Your current wrong definition and the other does not advance plot definition don’t work with word filler. By these definitions some of the greatest fiction ever would be filler as no or little plot and all character interaction. How can an entire work be worthless add on? Add on to what. Same Slice of life genre by your definition filler how could an entire work be filler it not filling anything.
@@thomasffrench3639 Because the term can change depending on the context. In anime or any type of animation that is adapating something filler is what the guy said, tho it doesnt necessarily needs to be an episode, extra-scenes not present in the source material (sometimes it can be called no-canon or anime only scene rather than filler depending on the context) For animations, tv shows, books whatever that is not adapting anything "filler" is often refered to things that do nothing for the story or plot or things like that. For example lets say in a light novel there is constantly a wall of text of the MC thoughts but they always end up with "But he isnt going to do that" , that is filler.
For me there is a difference between filler and padding. Fillers are just straight made up storylines that the author didn't approve of. Padding is stuff added to extend the episode but is itself canon. Just look at how Toei has managed OP lately. I woulnd't call anything filler but the pacing is horrible due to the padding they add. But in shows like Frieren where we've got so much QUALITY *which is the important word here* padding it adds so much to the feel of the show overall. Stuff like Stark's battle with the Dragon or the dance scene felt a lot better because they were made up with that in mind.
Ok so just because Frieren is a fantasy story that immediately makes it an Isekai? That legit makes no sense. Like its basically like a “Tell me you haven’t watched the series without saying you didn’t watch the series” type situation
The "isekai tropes" that that person is seeing are just the classic JRPG tropes japanese fantasy likes to reference but its after the Hero's Party has defeated the Demon Lord which makes it interesting.
Frieren is a FANTASY. Nobody was transported to another world, as an Isekai traditionally is about. Dude needs to get his facts straight. Take “Think” out of that username they clearly don’t THINK before doing anything 😂
I honestly think it’s a tad bit childish to start beef over something like this, as I personally like Think Before You Sleep and his channel, though he can be *very* strongly opinionated I do believe he makes plenty of good points in his videos when it comes to living a productive life, so I don’t particularly care for his takes on anime as it’s all just opinion based I mean maybe he just isn’t a fan of fantasy in general, no disrespect to Chibi of course because we have freedom of speech and his concern for an objectively good show is valid, I dunno that’s my take on all of this
I could not believe it when I saw Packergirl quote tweet it. So I spent about an hour going through that whole nonsense and just couldn't believe what I was reading. He has some of the worst takes on anime. I felt like everything he said was his valid opinion till I read "Frieren is an Isekai". After that I dismissed every point he made as moronic ramblings. It was some of the dumbest smart sounding stuff I have read.
That person has some weird defenders, a guy wanted a detailed explanation from me in how he was wrong. Given the explanation they went in a tangent in how it's only their personal opinion. Basically or his fans did not watch Frieren or have some humilation fetish
Don't forget, this person also got it wrong that a story can't be both shōnen and isekai. Its the equivalent of saying something like, "50 Shades of Grey isn't adult content. It's fantasy."
Frieren is good, as in ill say its a good watch to those who ask. If someone asks me about the GOAT, Frieren being an option isnt even going to cross my mind.
This guy used to brag too about how much he researched for his videos, and now he's just spouting nonsense like this REPEATEDLY. And the funny thing is that Frieren is considered mediocre by other powerful mages (Serie) because she spends most of her time practicing an inefficient technique aka mana concealment, thus squandering her potential
@@BingusWeeb I don't rly know honestly, that's a good question. I think it wouldn't be? But like, every isekai out there are set in a fantasy world so... But you have a point, thought 🤔
I think that person didn't get the memo that the anime it's literally "what do the heroes do after killing the BBG" ofc Frieren it's gonna be strong. And even then Frieren it's a joke compared with Serie in terms of power.
I saw this last night and when he replied to my comment I realized how dumb he was so I just deleted it all because I didn't want to deal with him. Like Asmon said "you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into".
TBYS is able to make good and interesting points when it comes to other topics, but when it comes to Anime/Manga, he definitely falls short in. He’s always misunderstanding and misconstruing it into something that it’s not. And the very existence and implication of Fan Service in a Anime/Manga series or video game lives rent free in his head considering how he’s one of those people who are so scared of its existence. For someone whose skilled in essays and research, it’s ironic that he forgot to research the actual definition of Isekai when he created this argument. I don’t get this sort of strong judgmental attitude, aversion, fear, and disgust towards Anime, Manga, and some other Asian media like Asian video games for example that’s been going on to the point of it getting real toxic and dumb.
man looking at the comments i think i understand why they are confused now. ppl here are anime fans and a lot of them are saying things are isekai that arent like Inuyasha, Dr. Stone, Oshi No Ko, ect... now i get it not one of these shows are isekai. isekai requires being transported from your world to a completely new and exotic world by any means. inuyasha is just time travel not a new world just the past. dr. stone is again time travel not a new world just the future. oshi no ko is just reincarnation not a new world.
I watch this guy, and he makes pretty sound arguments; anime is one of thing he despises, despite his attempts to approach from neutral standpoint. It is clear in some parts of his videos where he associates Japan's fertility rate and degeneracy to anime. Clearly, he is failing to look at anime from an objective view beyond its inflictions and into its context.
I get it. Looking over his stuff I get where he is coming from and he is mistaken on his approach. The story of frieren is a heartwarming story of what happens after the journey is done with a story more about self discovery and learning about the world and those in it than fighting. He is comparing it to isekai due to the demon lord mentioned in the show who was already defeated and the party based aspects which while something common in fantasy is just as popular if not more in isekai. Due to the fact there is little fighting in comparison to shonen he sees the show as not an shonen and using the hatred of isekai which is a hit or miss topic these days to rally people behind him. Given the laid back nature of the series the episodes to him which are not fighting is filler in his eyes which is why he brings up cowboy bebop which has a bit of episodes made for story telling rather than action.
When ever people say "breaking bad levels of writing" (or whatever equivalent) I automatically know they're being bad faith. Different stories have different appeals, and as such some stories can't being compared to each other in such a way. If you try to compare breaking bad to frieren you're just going to disappoint yourself instead of enjoying frieren for what it is.
