Let me put it simply. As time progresses, every decision and action leads to another new alternate reality. Therefore regardless of whatever paradoxes appear to be found, they are immaterial, and do not pose a direct casual effect to what happens in the present. The only reason why Peter disappeared along with any memories of his existence, was due to the machine itself, to resolve the imbalance of Peter being juggled between both worlds, avoiding conflict. That is my thoughts on what happened.
This is maybe the best setup for the next season that Fringe has done yet! It leaves so much to be explored: the recovery of the memory of Peter in the minds of the characters (possibly via interacting with the Observers); the notion that both sets of characters (TWO BRANDONS!) will have to work together to fix both universes, jumping between them in each episode; the continual usage/existence of Alt-Charlie and the Lincoln Lees; possible time jumps to 2026 to discover the origin of time travel.
Audience: Yay, almost all of our questions will be answered. J.J. Abrams: Well, we can't have that now. *Peter vanishes* Audience: WTF?!?!? J.J. Abrams: That'll keep 'em guessing.
I couldn’t get my dad to watch the show because of this. He said the multiple timelines and alternate universes made it confusing. He could have at least tried to finish the show 😂
Years later, I wish they didn’t disappear Peter. I feel they wrote themselves into a corner. Plus Olivia figuring out Altlivia had a baby with Peter. Season 4 should have been about fixing the universes instead of whatever that shapeshifting ark was.
What happened was that September never saved Peter as a child so he died when Walter brought him to the Prime universe and fell through the lake. So Adult Peter never existed but Young Peter did.
Walternate was delusional...olivia 2 could never stop the machine..the manuscript was made for olivia 1 .. When it was send back in time to pre historic eaeth before the universe splitted into 2 ...after splitting both earths had the machine but olivia 2 didn't have those powers so she couldn't shut it down anyway lol
I cannot accept authoring this fantastic comment found from another Fringe clip but I want to post it here anyway! It was something like "Somewhere in another universe, Fringe continues..."
I feel that even though Fauxlivia hasn't had cortexiphan she can control the machine, the same way Olivia did. The painting does suggest Olivia and I feel that Fauxlivia is included in that.
Great ending !! That was surpirsing... But if Peter never exist, why the machine exist, why Walter came to the other universe and why Walternate and others peoples are in our universe ? Very strange....
chill people...the observer's said that of course they wouldn't remember peter because he never existed...BECAUSE they (or something else) removed him from that reality at that point, so he now no longer exists...but we the viewers know he did...
@sourabhshetty but then how could the two universes be brought together in that room by a machine built for a man who never existed and yet was responsible for it being activated in the first place and sent back in time? Add to that little ridiculous paradox, where did the broadcasts for the machine coordinates come from?
the future walter created the machine specially for Peter and sent it to past,so that it will exist for the timeline wherein a crossover is done just like the future walter does and somehow the main goal is "healing" the past(present) to save present(future walter)..maybe the machine is not yet perfected it's only my guess
The plan that Walter and September worked on is going to send Peter back in time to this moment where he will use the Machine to fix both universes and prevent the Observers from ever happening.
Understand this,I watched this show from episode one untill the very end,what get's me is the symbolism whenever the show went to commercial.Someone please explain!
@conol77 lol try this; How could everyone be standing in a room that has been turned into a bridge between universes by a machine built specifically for a man who never existed?
@SydAnneB lol can't help it. The good thing about Fringe is it's always back within a few months after finishing a season, unlike other big shows that take a whole year to return.
@sourabhshetty Fingers crossed that they do justify the revelations and clarify on the apparently holes in season 4, and do so a.s.a.p. I don't want to spend the whole season, likely to be the show's last, distracted from what's on screen by what happened in this finale.
A great season finale. Though season 2's finale remains my favorite to date. I completely understand the narrative, but I don't understand why the repercussion of sending the device back erased Peter? And, also, in season 4 Walter has apparently not left his lab in years, yet clearly he's not at the lab in this episode after the reboot. A small nitpick, but just saying! I LOVE Fringe. Such a great show...but I'm a little worried about where the final season will take us!
It was September , once Peter created the bridge September went back in time and stopped himself from saving peter so peter drowned while walter didn't....it was September fault that 2 universes were at war with each other if one of them would have been destroyed the other would have too in couple of years ..it started with September distracting walternate from.finding the cure thus he changed the timeline of earth2 in which he was going to live...when walter brings Peter to earth 1 he was supposed to drown nd die since he didn't belong there but September saved him and used him to create a bridge that would heal the worlds after that he removed him from the timeline since he was a paradox and their timeline for invasion stayed intact but later he decides not to erase peter completely as he starts to develop feelings and peter returns back due to time anamoly created by the professor who created timw bubble to interact with his wife...the machine was made by walter in future and send back in time to heal worlds or destroy it but it wasn't its function but since it was send far back in time when the universe hadnt split into 2 so after splitting both of then had same machine after peter gets erased no one remembers him oe that he activated the machine the think that assembling the machine on both sides and at same location on both earths caused them to open a bridge because the machin3 was most probably made by walter in a timeline even before the original onewhen that timeline gets erased and original timeline starts in which walter crosses over universes for 1st time that machine becomes a paradox having no start or end ...
@@pthespidey5057 the whole show becomes a massive mindfuck. For the right reasons, but still a mindfuck. My brain hurts from trying to understand to plot of the show.
Season 4 was terrible. They shouldn't delete Peter from the timeline and all the events his existing cursed. It would be much more powerful if we could see the evolution of all relationships with that knowledge of the war between worlds. They could have used season 4 to prepare the invasion of Observers in season 5 slowly: How September finds out about the true nature of his mission. How the Fringe division is preparing to destroy the Observers and see how the world got doomed by science in the 22th century. And the global invasion itself and the hopeless situation for the FBI and the United Nations.
I have a theory Things shown in the last episode of season 3 happened exactly as they were shown, and in the end Walter sent Peter's consciousness back to the past to make a different choice. This choice essentially created a new timeline. Now we know that Observer's sense of time works differently (as shown in the season 4 last episode where he got shot and he said the conversation he had with Olivia didn't happen for him yet). So it means for Observer this is the new timeline, where whatever he did in previous timeline never took place. So in order to keep Peter alive in this *new* timeline, he has to do all the steps of saving him again, but he chose not to, which would essentially kill Peter. I think the last moments where all of them had time to see and interact with Peter was actually the timeline getting in the process of correcting itself (as the observer didn't save Peter, he has to be extinct, despite Walter sending his consciousness back in time from the future). The key difference maker is the Observer, and we know that in this timeline the observers never ever interfered (or probably never observed at all), since when Peter returned in season 4 and talked about Observer no one knew what is Observer.
@SydAnneB I understand what you're saying too, and I did watch those shows. It's just when something this integral is brought up, a paradox in which a character doesn't exist, if it doesn't fit with everything we've seen in the show then it is a viewer's responsibility to argue it until it becomes one of either two things; a brilliant twist, or a plot hole I haven't minded them introducing past concepts because they made sense within the context of what we'd seen on the show, but this doesn't.
@SydAnneB bah, yes. I hate those. First it's two weeks...then it's two months...then it comes back for three weeks and then goes on break again! It is horrible. The real cost of being on Fox...
Wait a minute... Peter DID exist! If not, then Walter never crossed to the other universe, the other side never collapsed, then Walternate wouldn't be at war with this side, Liv and Altliv never met, Henry never existed.. did the observer saved Peter's life in 2x15 so he could warn them now and then just "vanish"? He existed but no one remembers him.. now who thinks Altlivia is the father of her baby? :S And now what? Are the two universes one? :\ I don't understand any of these, dammit..
OMG, I do not understand anything. First of all, there are many Universe, not just two of them! This is absurd! If Peter does not exist, than the would not been in the same place and the same time. So the reason of Peter vanish is might be the third universe. So his circle is not porposed I think.
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