Our Fringe Raptor just arrived yesterday, and I couldn’t be happier with the quality. I really like the tires and the ability to easily move it around. Have already had it outside in the backyard, in the garage, and in the living room.
We tackled assembling the bike as a family project. ru-vid.comUgkxzg0clhbtRf2gGxPkVETFKJJKGqdsorQu The package is heavy, but I have 2 teen boys that were able to move it. The written instructions were great- we didn't need to watch the videos, but it was good knowing that the option was there if we needed it. After we were able to get it set up, the boys each rode 3 miles and I rode 8 and the bike stayed quiet. The display is easy to reset, and you can put it on whichever setting you are using (time, distance, calories, etc). I will say that my butt is a little sore from the seat, but that could be because I haven't rode in a while. While it is comfortable for me, it was not comfortable with the seat position for my friend (could not move the seat back far enough and he slightly looked like a kid riding a tricycle that he had outgrown). He also said that the seat hurt his manly parts. We are going to look for a different seat that will be compatible with this bike for him.I did purchase the Wahoo Cadence sensor and strapped it to the crank of one of the pedals. This will sync with my Apple Watch, iPhone and will import data in to my Health app. Wahoo does have other sensors available other than cadence. I can also keep either my phone or my iPad on the display and they both feel pretty secure.
Maybe if there are enough comments, Fringe will realize that people are upset about the immediate price increase and change it back. I’m in the market for an air bike, and that small savings does make a difference in my decision making process. At the same price, there’s the part of me that knows the Echo bike has been put to the test for years and the durability is holding up.
@@arthurvasquez8795 I will NEVER buy from Fringe Sport after this price change. I understand some fluctuations, but blatantly taking advantage of their customers to this degree is wrong!
@@johnrallo7018 Since my original comment, I have purchased an Echo bike. I absolutely LOVE it and use it in some way every single workout. I couldn't imagine spending any more for something like the Raptor. I've even added the wind guard, turf tires, phone and bottle holders...and still way under what I would have spent on the FS bike.
Kind of ridiculous how Coop gives a positive review and they raise the cost $250. That’s a 33% increase. Rogue is only $845 at the moment. Assault classic is $699 (wind screen is $30)
Would love to se a video were you make your dream home gym. Best squat rack, best bench, best barbell, bumper, specialty bar, rower, and so on..... But where you only choose one of each for your dream home gym. Love your videos
I keep hearing about the advantages of a belt drive over a chain drive. I was in the market for a new air bike 2 weeks ago, so I dug in and did some research of my own. Let me preface this with personally owning a Schwinn Airdyne AD4 for 14 years. This is a chain driven air bike. I never had an issue with this bike. I tightened the chain one time in 14 years. I wanted to upgrade to the Rogue Echo, but it isn't currently available. So as I said I researched, a lot. Generally speaking, yes the belt drive is very low maintenance. The chain drive will require some lubricating and possibly some tightening. The tightening is not, I repeat not due to "stretching" of the chain. The chain will wear some, this will cause some loosening of the chain. Tightening takes 2 minutes. I couldn't find anyone having issues with a chain popping any of the links. I did however find several reviews of people with high end belt drive bikes with belts that split in half. This wasn't just one obscure review, several people said their belts needed replacement . The commercial gym I go to has a Schwinn Airdyne AD6, the belt is constantly popping and slipping on the rollers. They previously had an Original Schwinn Airdyne AD2 for 20 years, the old gold air bike, chain driven, no issues with it. All that being said, I finally decided on the Assault Air Bike Classic and I'm happy with my choice.
Yeah, Coop way exaggerates the chain drive issue. These are some of the most neglected and beat up machines out there, and after decades they're still everywhere working perfectly fine.
Yeah, I was wondering about this. From a wear and tear perspective I would favor a chain over a belt. Yes it might need a little more maintenance, but it should be less prone to failure. I mean bikes have been using chains for a long time...
I hate what you've done to me, Coop. I'm watching the Punisher TV show and saw the gym fight episode... people are getting their faces smashed in and I'm figuring out which Rogue racks the gym has😞
I got chance to work on one of these and I will say that they’re nice. But as far as fit and finish on certain attributes they are left to be undesirable. I like how Rogue looks at their fit and finish. Not to say that they’re the best. I have other pieces of equipment from other retailers but I will say that they do make a good product for the most part. This may have all the attributes and then some of all the other bikes put together but they were just elements that I personally didn’t care for and number one was some of the plastic and caps on everything it seems like. And some of the adjustment points to me felt a little chintzy. Time will definitely tell on how well this thing works but until then I will enjoy my rogue bike.
COOP! any chance you could do a video taking the assault bike pro monitor and trying it on all the airbikes that are similar to it? like the raptor, the blitz, the titan airbike, etc
Great review, Coop! "I like pulling it from the from the front, but you can pull it from the back if you want to." That's what she said. Hey-yo! 😅 I feel like Brandon Campbell should have been all over that one.
Off topic, you ever hear of the Rotatoreliever. Would you do a review? Maybe a shoulder relief product episode. I once saw someone using a device that looked like recurve bow that they shake. I’m always getting jacked up shoulders. I’ve bought a titan safety squat bar, hyperice, and even a leaf blower after watching / reading your videos. Thanks for the No B.S. reviews 👊
@@time.4174 Yeah, I bought the squat cage, men's wonderbar, and gymnastics rings. They gave me over $100 off the squat cage, $45 off the bar, and $20 off the rings. If you email them and ask about a discount, say your low on income, and when the next sale is for that specific item, they will help you out. I was about to buy rogue, until I saw those crazy shipping fees.
I just want to thank coop for finally not making a stupid face for the video thumbnail. RU-vidrs making content for children back in the day popularized it and your adult audience doesn’t need it as an incentive to click the video. Also , thanks for the review lol.
This is exciting, but just found a “like new” Echo Bike for sale and wanted to run it by Coop and the community…Coopunity? Ad says barely used and has add ons, like turf tires, for $500. Should I make it happen with the Echo instead? $750- 800 is way too much for me.
@@joecowan3719 I have one on order and know they are supposed to ship near the end of the month…then I saw Glucks video and I was like “Hey, wait a minute!” 😂
Hey Coop! I know there are a tun of companies out there but wondering if you could do a review on a Pacific Northwest company called Giant Lifting? Been following them since I live in seattle but I am curious about the make of their products. They have been coming out with a tun of stuff. Anyway figured I’d throw it out there haha. I watch every one of your videos as they come out! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@craigman7262 correct, but the fringe comes with a wind guard, water bottle holder, phone holder and large turf tires. The echo doesn’t come with those by default and require at least $40 (no turf tire option which would probably be another $50) extra more than fringe. I’ve ridden both and the build quality is equal. Overall, fringe is a better value if those features are important to you.
Buy Rogue Echo bike on craigslist or marketplace. They are usually around $600. Buy the turf tires and wind deflector and it's still cheaper than this and will hold it's value like crazy
Got mine two days ago great bike only thing that sucks is the seat. I can't get mine to stay in one place it moves back and forth when I'm working out. And I've tightened it a bunch of times. Almost makes me not want to use it because of how much it moves.
Hi I just subscribe to your channel I love all it's content I am just now starting my garage gym and you have given me some really good ideas I am really into kettlebell workouts I wish I had the amount you have lol but I'll work my way up to that amount
Add turf tires, wind shield and the cup holder and the Rogue would weight just as much as the raptor. The Rogue is taller, wider and longer than the Raptor. Where does all the Raptor weight come from?
Hey Coop, i got my trueform trainer in today and have noticed the belt is dragging on the frame. Have you ever seen one do that? if so what is the fix for it?
I have the Rogue and the seat post always has this little shift in it. It makes me crazy feeling the little bump bump bump each time I pedal it. I have to torque the crap out of the knob to get it to stop.
From what I can see this is basically the same air bike that Bells of Steel makes, the big tires are nice and it's got a different seat, but it looks identical
Specs and looks appear to be the same now that you mention it. I wonder if the weight difference is just attributed to the seat and turf tires. $100 cheaper as well.
@@jakemeyer5678 I was noticing on the measurement photos that they are pretty much identical so yeah I don't know if it's the tires or what. I've had the blitz bike for about a year the thing has held up great
I could be wrong but doesn't the Bells bike have a plastic blade? But honestly I'm not sure if metal is better. Not all metal is created equal and neither are all plastics.
Yea you're right! I just checked out the As Many Reviews As Possible BOS Blitz Bike 2.0 and it looks incredibly similar ! 23" wide, 118 lbs, wind shield, cup holder, belt drive, small wheel but in a home I think turf tires are overkill.
Im 6’6” also and the Rogue is taller and wider. This guy is 6’10” and did a review of the Rogue Echo. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OgmWhwkJaOE.html
Prices went up with Fringe again most likely because they moved to a bigger warehouse. They sent out an email a few months ago saying they were increasing prices because of inflation etc. Hard times like everyone else blah, blah, blah. They kept prices low for the sake of the customer almost "to long". Insinuating it was hurting their bottom-line, they were losing money. They also reduced their discounts. Used to be flash sales were 20-50% off. Now, they are 5%. Sometimes 10%. Then last month (surprise, surprise) business is booming & they had a moving sale. Moving to a much bigger warehouse because they've expanded and grown so much. Now prices are up again.🙄 The flip from one side to the other in a couple months. Yeah, no. I send their emails to the spam folder now.
He has a ton of free weights in his gym (for someone who doesnt even look built-reminds me of my brother who would buy books to impress people, but never read them).
Hey there, is there any crossfit bike with handles like airbikes... But uses magnetic flywheel system (like an elliptical). Airbikes are loud when you go hard.
I own both a Lifecycle GX (magnetic resistance) and a Rogue Echo Bike. I love the smooth quiet operation of the GX for steady state endurance rides. But it fails a bit as an intense interval trainer, as magnetic resistance is not nearly as responsive as air to big power fluctuation. You can actually “get ahead” of the eddy current resistance in a way that air resistance won’t allow. It won’t “push back” against your sprint the way it should.
HMMMM. Coop has a video from 5 months ago for the 'Best Exercise Bike for 2022' stating the Echo was the best. What happened to Coop stating the Raptor is the best. Has the Raptor choked and died? Inquiring minds want to know of why flipping of opinion?
@@goldenboy912 it’s tough I got covid months ago and it zapped my cardio I lift 4 times a week kickbox twice a week and in 15 hard minutes of this bike had me wanting to puke but I’ve also used it for warming up a lot at a much lighter intensity and it works great I really feel this Bike is going to get my cardio better then it’s even been in short it’s stable built well and effective
Aaaaannd it is now $999 on their site.... what a joke. Straight up pusherman tactics... get it out in the wild for cheap, get a video praising their product at a specific price point, then jack it up 25%
Price increase the same day the video drops? No thanks, Fringesport. I'd rather buy one from Titan and give them an extra $100 tip just on principles alone.
It’s been at $795 for a week or longer. It didn’t just go up today after the video. I know cause I bought at that price a week ago. And as coop said, the bike is excellent and it’s actually in stock unlike the echo
If you think a belt drive means less maintenance then you need to compare automotive timing belts to automotive timing chains. Chains last almost twice as long as belts before they need replacing. I've had chains on bicycles for decades so I'm wondering who is having so much trouble with them?
I agree. I had a Schwinn Airdyne AD4 for 14 years. Chain drive, no problems with it. I wanted an upgrade, researched it, went with the Assault Air Bike Classic, also chain driven.
Don't expect a lot of resale value when buying Fringe Sport compared to Rogue. Most of us probably buy for life and don't expect to sell, but the Rogue Echo bike is amazing, why go out on the fringes and buy Fringe?
@@BeGrizzlyStrong I actually do agree with supporting the competition, and often do. In this case, however, it appears there may be little difference between airbikes built for Rogue and those built by Fringe or other competitors. Rogue is generally a safer bet for anyone who resells their equipment. I've learned this from experience and observation.
@@johntaylor5288 same goes for most clothes, many medicines, supplements, toiletries, etc. Yet people still insist on buying brand name. Enough people buy the off brand to keep things progressing. This is that. Mostly. Except with consumables. You have a point on resale value. I would argue if resale value is even a minor consideration in buying gym equipment, it might be best to reconsider making the purchase. Get the priorities straight. You have me curious, where were you wanting to go with the "Let's Go Brandon" bit?
Wow, you can go on Craigslist any day and come across many of these overpriced things. Most people that buy them have lots of money to blow and use them for a few weeks and then become dust collectors or clothes hanger. But I always love the reviews.
