From the Bench - Horizon Hobby/Spektrum SAFE Select Technology Tutorial

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As I mentioned in my E-Flite P-47 Razorback and Cessna 150 reviews, I've been wanting to provide a separate discussion on Horizon Hobbies' SAFE Select technology (bit.ly/HorizHby) that's featured with their bind and fly aircraft. The P-47 and Cessna are both great next step type airplanes for those that may still be learning and so the technology is there to help folks learning to fly and hopefully protect them from getting into trouble. I found that there wasn't a whole lot of documentation about SAFE Select out there, so I thought that it would be worthwhile to talk a little bit about it and give some tips for using it effectively. Full article is available at wp.me/p5LuFX-12m
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@1Sail2 5 месяцев назад

Even 5-years later, people are watching and learning from exceptional tutorial videos. You explain much more clearly, slowly, accurately than any other on you-tube. Thank you very much for your time on these.

@Thercgeek 5 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@robertemmons2260 4 года назад

Thank you for bringing us a great video on the SAFE flight modes. Although I had taken up RC flying over four years ago, it's still nice to watch these videos to keep my mind fresh and awake. I don't fly on a regular basis, so these little refresher videos do great for me, especially after several months of inactivity. I have two main airplanes that I fly, one is a tricycle gear and one is a sport tail dragger, and both have the same, and both have different flight characteristics, and this is where the SAFE modes come in until I can become fully confident that I can fly them in normal flight modes.

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

Cool, keep up the good work! :)

@hangarfiftyone3527 6 лет назад

Chris; That was the best explanation of not only SAFE and what it's used for but also how to fly an airplane correctly and proficiently, Well done my friend well done. And I've been flying RC for 45 years. Love your show! Kenny

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

Thank you so much, I really appreciate that!

@jamesmartin2735 6 лет назад

Chris- Thank you for this very informative video on SAFE Select Technology, I was not clear on its appropriate usage. I guess I am one of those that will have to retrain but "better late than never"! I have enjoyed, and learned from, every one of your videos I have watched. Thank you again!

@jpcacike4395 2 года назад

This video may have been created awhile ago but your advice will always hold true. Being new to the hobby, your video has helped me immensely to understand SAFE and it's purposes. Thanks Chris!

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Thank you so much for your kind feedback, I’m so glad this is helpful!!

@curvebal 6 лет назад

Great advice on using Safe Select ,Chris. I switch it on and off while flying my UMX Timber. I still had a minor crash but after doing a post flight analysis it was caused by flying too low to recover and losing orientation even momentarily . I could have left it in Safe mode for the whole flight and landed without incident, but that’s not learning to fly.

@LigthningII 4 года назад

This is a great video. I learn much each time I view your videos. I know they take time to do and we are grateful that you make them. Again, many thanks.

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

Thank you so much! :)

@jamesrooks9284 3 года назад

Good, logical approach to explaining what the safe select is all about.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thank you!

@SpektrumRCvideos 6 лет назад

Awesome video Chris!

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

Thank you! :)

@GrotrianSeiler 4 года назад

Great video. So clear so thorough. Cool.

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

Thank you very much!

@royd7984 3 года назад

Thanks for making a video about SAFE. I noticed you did not mention spending some time on a flight simulator. Mine has been so important to me as a new pilot. From experience I strongly recommend using one prior to attempting to fly.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Agreed on the simulator. It’s an invaluable tool for learning and exploring rc flying.

@thelongestday64 4 года назад

Very good explanation of "safe" and "safe select"!!!

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

Thank you!

@thelongestday64 3 года назад

@@Thercgeek What would be really useful too is if you could show how to get out of safe and transition to AS3X!!! I am sure many viewers would like to see that tutorial!

@Scairborne66 6 лет назад

Great advice Chris. Would recommend newbies dig into a good simulator: they can pay for themselves after just one or two actual crashes. I tell my grandkids, every time they press "reset", they just spent $300 minimum to replace a real model... i.e. the simulator is not a video game. I also dial in random gusts and crosswinds to practice for the unexpected, Thumbs up!

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

Good point, I didn't even think of mentioning getting a sim! A good sim pays for itself the first time you crash in it. ;)

@Scairborne66 6 лет назад

Tell me about it! I started with helicopters.. $100 for blades alone... then, I bought RealFlight

@src2920 5 лет назад

Thanks Chris for the easy explanation and how to use/not use SAFE while learning to fly. However, what is SAFE select activated landing often shown in horizonhobby product videos? Is it something you set up which lands the airplane on push of a button like in the carbon cub S+?

@Thercgeek 5 лет назад

SAFE select will not auto land the airplane for you. It simply stabilizes it and limits the achievable pitch and bank angles keeping it from being able to roll over onto it's back. You still have to control it through the whole landing.

@emsman59 3 года назад

Really good video.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks!

@KalibasauRC_64 3 года назад

Thank you for information of safe technology

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@acesmitty6441 5 лет назад

Great video. So initially when setting this all up, D/R and Expo need to be at 100% (which is default when setting up a new plane anyway), and then once you've bound the plane, you can go in and adjust the D/R and Expo to whatever you like? Is that right? I've never flown with SAFE. I always just use the AS3X with my own preferred D/R and Expo settings.

@Thercgeek 5 лет назад

When you're setting up SAFE on a switch, the EPA needs to be at 100%. Otherwise, it shouldn't matter. You can set the airplane up any which way you choose.

@birdwing98 4 года назад

@@Thercgeek What is EPA? Never heard that used in RC plane world.

@vikramarvindphadke956 6 лет назад

Hi Chris, how much Expo rates do you recommend for E flite Spitfire? Manual does not mention about this aspect

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

You know, its really a matter of personal preference. You might start with 10-15% and go from there. Be sure to setup multiple rates and that will help too. I haven't flown the spitfire, but I have one in the box waiting.

@sinuemedina2550 4 года назад

Is there safe select for hitec technology?

@stevejones9044 5 лет назад

Great video. Subbed! I bought a new Horizon Hobby T-28 because I ... erm... ran over my other one with my truck that I forgot about and left on the ground as I was loading my other plane. That one was bought from a friend from the club but he took the spektrum receiver and replaced it with an orangerx that didn't have SAFE. It had a few crashes already which was evident by the epoxy! As of this post Im still learning and my instructor is saying the same thing you said where I should learn good habits and not rely on any auto-fly capabilities. My landings with my Kadet are bouncy but my landings with the T-28 are even worse so maybe SAFE will help level that out at least at first until I won't need it.

@Thercgeek 5 лет назад

Thank you! I would guess that your bounced landings are probably a result of your flare technique. It takes some practice, but once you're able to master when to flare and how much elevator to use to soften the descent it should smooth that out. Most anytime the airplane hits nose first or flat on all three wheels, it'll end up bouncing. Get it to touch mains first, even if it touches down pretty hard, it'll be less likely to bounce. SAFE may help keep the airplane stabilized when practicing on your own, but keep up the practice and keep working with your instructor and you'll get smoothed out in not time! :)

@stevejones9044 5 лет назад

@@Thercgeek Thanks. Right now my landings are more panic mode to get on the ground quickly so I don't run out of runway (ours is paved). My instructor assured me there is plenty of runway and it will slow down pretty quickly once on the ground. And yes, the last bounced landing bent the nose gear! Easy to fix but it was a hard left turn taxi back to me!

@birdwing98 4 года назад

@@stevejones9044 How are the landing going? Do you have REALFLIGHT yet? Use the "P" key to memorize position when plane is on short final, then you can just hit SPACE BAR to practice the final approach and flare, over and over. BTW, I use Realflight 7.5 and know nothing about the more recent versions.

@stevejones9044 4 года назад

@@birdwing98 Hey there! Nice of you to check back. Yes flying in general (real flying) is much easier! I'm flying an Eagle 2 with OS 40 along with the T-28. Landings are not a fearful event any longer. :) I don't use SAFE in the T-28 either because it freaks me out. I have more control without it. I turned it on a few times and it resulted in unexpected movements. Just as soon leave it switched off. I added it to a switch which made it easy to turn on and off. I gave back RF7.5 simulator to the club friend a few months ago. It helped a little bit but I found it to be a little negative training at least for me. The simulated T-28 flight dynamics modeling isn't good in the sim compared to the real thing. It drops much to easily in the sim compared to real life. The T-28 foamie floats much more.

@benportsmouthofficial1722 3 года назад

Hello mate I’ve tried both ways to assign a switch for safe select but doesn’t work any ideas ? Thanks Ben

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Make sure that the switch you’re trying to assign has an assignment to a channel. If it doesn’t, it won’t work. It can be any switch assigned to channels 6-9.

@vikramarvindphadke956 6 лет назад

Very nice and informative video.I wish to add my experience regarding problem I faced in assigning a switch for SAFE select on my E flite spitfire.I am using DX7 Gen2 Tx. As per the manual,no programming is required for assigning a switch for SAFE.However even after many attempts, I could not assign either a two way or a three way switch. Ultimately after a lot of brain storming I realised that Aux2 channel is assigned to "R" rotary knob on my Tx. I had to assign it to 2 way switch "A" and after making sure that travel throw was 100% in both directions, I was able to assign SAFE to switch "A". I would like to ask a question regarding EFL8550 E elite Corsair 1.2 M.Why SAFE option is not available for this model, is it because of any technical issue? I have written to Horizon Hobby but yet to receive any reply

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

What you describe actually makes sense. You can assign SAFE to any switch, but it has to be one that's assign to a channel. Glad you got it sorted out. On the corsair, I think it was actually one of the earlier releases they did, so I'm guessing that's why it's lacking the SAFE feature. That's purely a guess on my part though. I would imagine one could put a SAFE capable receiver into one though if so inclined.

@eugenenault4935 2 года назад

My valiant 1.3 pitches down doesn’t fly straight and level in safe mode so I adj. elevator trim while in safe mode and seems to fly level now. After landing I adj. elevator linkage and reset trim to center. Did I do correct adjustment procedures?

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

With safe on, trimming may be required if the control surfaces aren’t mechanically rigged at center. So, I’d say what you did was correct since when you switch between safe on and off, the surfaces shouldn’t be dramatically changing position. They will if they’re not mechanically centered.

@lindenstewart4404 5 лет назад

do you have a video on the transmitter setting for the carbon z 150 Cessna? just got mines and i am using a dx6 transmitter

@Thercgeek 5 лет назад

Here's my review video for the cessna: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hn1nS8lbvic.html Thanks for watching!

@michaelferguson4569 4 года назад

great video, when setting trims inflight should safe be on or off? Thank you.

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

The airplane should be trimmed as needed either way. You’ll find that it’ll mostly need to be trimmed with safe off as with safe on it will auto level the airplane. The goal would be for the surfaces to not change position when switching between safe on and off on the ground.

@billnelson4133 2 года назад

Hi Chris, That's where I'm at, trying to retrain myself. I'm working with a different instructor than my original instructor to get off safe. I working on the simulator regularly to help.

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Good stuff!

@ItAintMeBabe99 6 месяцев назад

Still confused ! Can SAFE be added to an existing plane and radio ? Is it a physical piece of equipment, like a gyroscope or servo? Are there sensors inside the plane, how does it know it’s inverted. Does the Tx have to come from the factory with it installed?

@Thercgeek 6 месяцев назад

It’s a Spektrum feature that is all handled in the receiver. It has a 3 axis gyro in it that is used for the auto leveling. So, if you have an airplane that you install a safe capable receiver into, that airplane will then have safe available if you set it up.

@williamsantiago7303 3 года назад

I'm new at flying. I'm into rc cars and trucks both nitro and electric but I wanna get into the air planes. Do you recommend the fly trainer computer program or buy a cheap model and learn with the cheap model plane? Keep up the good work with your videos. Thumbs up👍 on this video.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Investing in a good simulator will save you time and money down the road. Time in the sim directly translates to actual rc flying and will help you train the feel and muscle memory. Also, I'd recommend connecting with a local club as they usually have flight instructors and trainer aircraft to help folks get started. A little flight instruction will go a long way in providing a good foundation to build your skills upon.

@jettechdonatkins 6 лет назад

Read this on your site but nice to hear it as well.Neat feature,maybe would have saved my pz sport cub from a tree on the 2nd flight.I do have as3x which makes the cub fly really stable,but wouldn't save it from my dumb thumbs.Being self taught not the best idea for beginners,but after a few more flights I'm doing ok!Thanks Chris for all your great videos!

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

Thank you! Teaching yourself to fly is pretty difficult, but it's certainly possible to do like you've done. Keep up the good work! Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing! ;)

@jettechdonatkins 6 лет назад

Chris,2 trees and some bad landings but after about 10 take off and 2 landings almost like I wanted(not talking about the other 8),the bird is still in good shape.I did have to use some epoxy to repair the aft fuse after an unscheduled landing,but I am getting the hang of it.Soon I will deactivate the AS3X and hopefully not open another can of worms!Again,getting a lot of inspiration from you and Brent,so thanks you guys for your videos!!

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

Thank you for watching! :)

@jorgenelsonfelix52 6 лет назад

Excellent spectacular Saludos desde Buenos Aires 😎👍👍

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

Thank you and thanks for watching!

@M4rkmcc21 2 года назад

Excellent effort. Theres just no information about this feature for new RC pilots. All vids on you tube expect us to know what this already is. I'd appreciate a video that explained what AS3X and SAFE gains are and how and why we want to alter the gains

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I’m working on a review of the new smart 10 channel receivers in which I plan to cover some of that. AS3X is a gyro stabilization system and so adjustment of the gains is the amount of stabilization. More gain=higher rate of stabilization. However, when there’s too much gain, the model will oscillate and can become uncontrollable. Generally speaking, most airplanes don’t need gyros, but they do help smaller airplanes to feel more like a larger airplane in flight.

@sinuemedina2550 4 года назад

Is safe select the same as a stabilizer??? I'm just looking for something where the plane can fly smoother!!! Is this technology available with Hitec. I only Own Hitec everything!!!

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

Safe select is a spektrum technology unfortunately. That being said, hitec has gyros and stabilization units, so you could use one of those to provide the gyro stabilization you’re looking for. There are other third party gyros available too.

@Zek1701 3 года назад

Hey Chris thanks for yet another great informative video. I'm trying to learn how to fly edf jets and in preparation have been using SAFE with an F27(the small one) which can really go fast.Also, I have some of the handlaunch 64MM jets which with the just stabilzation receivers I feel pretty confortable flying these jets. Now I want to move to takeoff/landing on narrow runway with the 64MM jets with LG. I'm thinking of getting one with SAFE so while flying I can fly without SAFE but also have SAFE on during landing start. Then switch to SAFE off and only use on emergency during landing as needed. I don't have access to an instructor. I'm hoping this will build my jet flying skills quickly. Now the real question...(I know I'll get hate post for this one and probably go to the bad place when I die)...how about putting the Spektrum AR630 receiver with SAFE into the Freewing F14? I have this jet (with the good afterburners) and ultimately this is what I want to fly. Thoughts on if this would work and if this is a good approach to get to the point where I can fly the F14? BTW you have some of the sweetest F14 landings!!!

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Safe used in a smart way I think is a good way to protect your investment, so no judgement here in that sense. 😊. The challenge is that the ar630 is only 6 channels and the tomcat requires a minimum of 7 channels.

@Zek1701 3 года назад

The RC Geek - Errr...I guess if I don’t hook up the throttle then I can get down to 6ch and be totally “safe”! :) Well more practice and sacrificing more 64mms...

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Haha, I suppose so! 🤣. I suppose you lock the wings to the extended position if nothing else.

@gisall8205 2 года назад

Got a problem / question. On my DX9 Transmitter I successfully assigned SAFE to switch "A" I want to move the SAFE option to switch "B" . Switch "B" is a 3 option switch where I already have all my Duel Rates and Expo set up. Do I have to change All my settings back to 100 % on that stick to move SAFE over to switch "B" Or can I just change "ONE" of the 3 options back to 100 % on that switch and move it to that location. Hopefully I'm making since. Also will I have to re bind the receiver afterwards. I've already tried with no success. It would be of great help if you could help me out with an answer. THANKS

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I’m not entirely certain. To set the switch, I think everything will need to be set to 100% to ensure that takes. So, you’ll want to setup your rates on a different switch.

@gisall8205 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek Well. I cleared out switch B and set all 3 toggle options back to 100% travel and zero Expo. Original factory settings. Then I re bound the receiver with SAFE OFF. To completely start over. I then re bound the receiver with SAFE ON and tried to activate switch B as the on, off switch. SAFE refused to acknowledge switch B as the new on, off switch and defaulted back to switch A. There's got to be a way to move the SAFE on, off switch to another channel. If you can run across a way to do this PLEASE let me know. I know how to fly and all, but I would like to have the SAFE option because this is a smaller airplane and I can get disorientated when the airplane is far away and I'm doing rolls, loops ect. Maby once SAFE is set to one switch, it can't be moved. If you can find an answer, PLEASE let me know. THANKS.

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Is the switch you’re trying to assign safe to assigned to a channel at all? The switch can be assigned to any channel 5-9 and won’t take safe unless the switch you’re trying to assign has a channel assignment to it also.

@rayh5804 3 года назад

Can I share safe select switch with the gear switch on my dx6e?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Yeah, that shouldn’t be a problem. The way it would work is safe will be on or off with the gear position.

@craigbone9231 5 лет назад

Hi great video. I have an AR636A AS3X RECIEVER from my 2m carbon z t28. Can i activate safe select with this like you explain to the landing gear or flap channel on my spectrum dx6 as i have just ordered an fms 1700mm corsair which is the second corsair i have bought

@Thercgeek 5 лет назад

Yeah, that should work. Just make sure you install the gyro in the correct orientation, otherwise it'll operate backwards. Also, the gains on the AS3X gyro will be tuned to the T28, and not the corsair, so just be aware of that. IT may be perfectly fine, but you may also notice some instability (wobble) from it if the gains are too high.

@craigbone9231 5 лет назад

@@Thercgeek so i guess the ports face aft

@Thercgeek 5 лет назад

Most likely, but you'll need to visually check that the gyro is moving the servos in the right direction when you move the airplane around. You don't want the gyro acting against you.

@CockpitFlight 5 лет назад

Does the dxe Controller work with the safe system

@Thercgeek 5 лет назад

I don't know why it wouldn't work. You may have to do some programming to assign a switch which requires the programming app and cable I think.

@sethgreenberg7725 3 года назад

Hey Chris what channel is safe select on so I can assign my switch to it

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Safe select can be assigned to any switch that’s been assigned to channels 5 thru 9. So, decide which switch you want it on, assign that switch to a spare channel and then do the safe selection switch assignment procedure.

@sethgreenberg7725 3 года назад

@@Thercgeek thanks. Chris

@devingable8467 4 года назад

Is there a reason when i switch to intermediate stabilizer mode the plane falls out of the sky?

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

Well, intermediate mode gives you more direct control. What exactly do you mean it falls out of the sky? That could be any number of things. When you flip the switch on the ground, do you notice a trim change on the elevator? It shouldn’t change at all, so if it does you’ll need to adjust your elevator trim.

@MrBlompod 4 года назад

great vid great advice....

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

Thank you!

@williammarlo6155 5 лет назад

I have a 3 axis gyro on my bigger 20cc Extra. I use it for take off and landing currently, once up I turn it off and have fun. But I’m not yet comfortable taking off and landing without it yet.

@Thercgeek 5 лет назад

Nice! That's certainly a good way to protect your investment during the most critical phases of flight.

@williammarlo6155 5 лет назад

Exactly. I’m getting more and more comfortable with it turned off and plan on attempting take off and landing without very soon

@OrcaBoat3 Год назад

How does SAFE function in a nitro/gas plane?

@Thercgeek Год назад

How it functions is independent of the power system, so it would function the same.

@src2920 4 года назад

Thank you Chris. I finally learned not to use SAFE. Going further, how can I assign a 3-position switch for 3- Flight modes- No AS3X (Zero Rate gains), AS3X only, SAFE On for example on a eflite Viper. The manual only explains about SAFE select but not how to assign 3- Flight modes. Most of the eflite receivers have 3-Flight modes that could be programmed. It will be great if we can use this feature too. Thank you:)

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

Awesome! In order to turn on and off the gyro, you have to connect to the receiver and use the app to set that up and assign the switch there. I’m not sure how that works with safe as I’ve not done that. I’ve only programmed and tuned a couple AS3X gyros and I’ve not played with changing any of the receiver settings in the bnf’s.

@src2920 4 года назад

@@Thercgeek Thanks. I have ordered the bluetooth module and will try setting up the receiver. As always, love your reviews:)

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

Thank you!

@mickemmett6828 6 лет назад

All my planes have a "SAFE" receiver or some sort of self righting system installed 'cos I can lose orientation in the blink of an eye; literally! I take it out of "SAFE" now and again to do a roll or a loop or just have a mess around but I would say for 80% of the flight I'm in "SAFE" mode, that's the way I like it. I really enjoy the flights now unlike when I was flying with out it before my heart would pound from taking off to landing, I have no intention of flying with out it or even learning to fly without it and would never encourage others to do so, if like me they are happy flying with "SAFE" and don't wish to do a shed load of fancy manoeuvres why put yourself through hell and smash up your models. I'm happy at the level I am and this is where I'll stay. The 636 "SAFE" receivers are much better than the ones in the Apprentice, as well as letting you use all 6 ports they will still allow you to do knife edges, flat spins etc while you are in "SAFE" mode, just let go of the sticks and you're flying straight and level again, great!!! Another nice video from you; as they always are.

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

Makes sense. It really is all about preference. Sounds like you've got a good system going that works for you which is what it's all about!

@pauld5631 4 года назад

Please stress there is a difference between an airplane with Safe, like many of the RTF trainers, vs. Safe Select offered in the BNF versions

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

Yes, that is true.

@DetoursRC 2 года назад

I think im doing everything everyone says to do and and still cant assign safe to a switch. Plane is bound with safe ON and safe is working. My switch is assigned. Rates are 100% and im toggling the switch 5 times up and down. Its wont respond to the toggling.

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Do you have the switch you’re trying to assign to safe assigned to a channel? Which channel is it assigned to? Also, What radio are you using? If you have an nx radio, you can actually setup safe in the forward programming menu.

@DetoursRC 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek dx6e. Thanks for the reply but it finally did the dance and works. Apparently you have to have ALL of the RATES AND SERVO TRAVEL AT 100% I had the travel down a bit for the elevator and ailerons. Turned them up to 100% and it worked!

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Glad to hear you got it sorted!

@bertvdlast 3 года назад

Is that an F-14 against the wall behind you?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Yup!

@bertvdlast 3 года назад

@@Thercgeek. Nice, is it finished yet?

@gulfcoastthermoking5363 4 года назад

great video! you look stoned every time i see you but whatever flying high is always a great thing!! ; )

@Thercgeek 4 года назад

You're probably seeing me tired as I can't say I've ever been stoned. Working full time while raising a family and trying to keep up on videos and articles is tiring, haha!

@f1matt 3 года назад

Safe is great. Currently working towards being able to fly without it.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Nice!

@edwill62 6 лет назад

well i have been using the SAFE Rx out of the Apprentice in multiple aircraft even those it is NOT designed for....and even tho I do NOT use the SAFE Select it is basically the same set up.....and I have been flying for many years now and decided to use that E-Flite SAFE Rx (EFLR310013) in my aircraft for various reasons.....and there is a dedicated forum to that on RC Groups, called E-Flite SAFE in another Plane thread ....they now also are using the SAFE Select in multiple aircraft as well , NOT just what is sold by Horizon Hobby......www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2135213-Eflite-SAFE-RX-in-another-plane

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

Thanks for the input!

@DivisionRc 6 лет назад

I got my new June Nite elflight p51-D and i dont need safe. Flown 2time and more flights at flitefest ohio so i was thinking about activating safe just to mess with it but im in no need for it and im experienced enough that with it on it would be boring 😂😂😂

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

Nice, keep it up! Yeah, it's one of those things that it's great if you're pretty green and learning, but as you say, it limits what you can do. So, the sooner you don't need it, the sooner you'll have more fun! ;) That said, it is a pretty cool technology to help those who are new.

@matk4731 6 лет назад

Thanks mate I have been waiting for this video. I have two planes with safe. One is my mini Apprentice & on is my UMX Timber. I’m still not that confident nor comfortable flying my Apprentice out of safe (fly in intermediate) this is mainly because it the difference in elevator trim in safe it is trimmed up but when I turn safe off it is trimmed down. (About 10-15mm difference) But I tend to fly my umx Timber our of safe. I do use it still & it has saved my plane a couple of times. I do like the safe technology it has helped me get back into the hobby after a very dismal attempt about 15 years ago. Great video & really like the channel 👍🏻👍🏻🙃

@Thercgeek 6 лет назад

Thanks for your input and kind words! A 10-15mm difference is pretty notable, so I definitely understand! I'm not sure why there would be a difference except that SAFE does provide those 3 elevator inputs depending on the throttle. If you're checking it on the ground at idle, that could cause that elevator difference. Have you tried it in the air without SAFE yet? If you're at half throttle, is there still an elevator difference?

@matk4731 6 лет назад

The RC Geek Gday I have tried it in the air & it just pitches the nose down. The throttle doesn’t seem to make any difference to the elevator pitch. On takeoff in advanced mode even at full throttle it tries to pitch the nose down & wants to lift the rear wheels off 1st.