FROST DEATH KNIGHT GUIDE - Wrath Classic 

This guide made me rethink what it means to play my Death Knight. I have been an unholy DW morber, but now I want to try out frost dk. Consider that like button obliterated and a new sub to boot 👍

Thank you for making this video. I parse high eighties too low nineties and really haven’t been able to figure out how to improve. Hard to find info on frost dk, everything i see is unholy, so this guide made my day.

I’m currently parsing 97-99s and still found this guide extremely informative and helpful. I’m hoping to keep climbing with some of the info you’ve shared here- really appreciate it. Liked and subbed!

Thanks for the video brother. I was rank 44 world Enh Shaman in TBC but have not been able to find the same success as a Frost DK in WoTLK. Wasn't doing bad in Naxx but have really been falling flat in Ulduar. I'm looking into what I'm doing wrong because at this point it's clear I have to be. This video was very helpful hopefully I'll start progressing forward now instead of backward.

23:38 as stated before , if you want to max out on your obliterates counts you would want to use 2 seperate UA macro , 1 as you showed in the video only as opener and the other one w/o blood tap that way you desync them and benefit of 1 Obli cast per 1 minute. ( In blood sub spec)

- I made a video detailing how to cast unbreakable armor outside of the opener as a supplement to this video, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5942n8AI_vE.html - The value of hit is higher if you are consistently using howling blast and autoing a boss for longer - Remember to always use 2 slow weapons regardless of what combination you have. - Some less expensive alternatives for the pre-raid BIS ring and weapon are Ring of Scarlet Shadows / Reaper of Dark Souls. - Loatheb's Shadow is also a good alternative to the trinkets discussed as it no longer shares a CD with gloves. I will be making a follow-up video for which fights sub-unholy will be better on in the future.

Great stuff bub!! Keep it up, you have made my casual play more competitive , exciting and worth my time with my Frost DK TY 🙏

love the editting, straight to the point. def point people to this video for fdk tips, hope you can make boss by boss guides.

Sick Frost DK guide for the #1 Frost DK in the world and second best Warlock in my TBC guild.

Your overall knowledge on the subject is apparent and very helpful. I'm a newbie DK so some may say my judgment of your knowledge isn't valid.. I claim it from this tho: your overview of every topic you touched on gave much needed context to start to understand how this class works and how it is best utilized. Hopefully you have or will make more guides getting into the nitty gritty of different fight situations. Anyway, thanks a lot for the content gold.

Really appreciate you making this video! Thank you! There is not enough Frost DK info out there imho. I still have 2 questions: - Do you use cancelaura BT? (I dont use it, but i've seen people that do) - How and where do you fit in UA and BT after the opener? (when they come off cooldown mid fight) So far i've been using UA with a death rune and then saving BT for when I mess up the rotation and don't have a blood/death rune up for pestilence Keep the video's coming! I'm really interested!

The best dk video i have ever seen, and i think i have seen them all.

Really really nice video dude! Completely new to Dk and try to choose between frost and uh 👌

I went from late 80 parses to orange 95s because of this guide. Everything I was looking for in a guide for my frost dk. Thank you so very much ! Subbed

The rotation, when explained that way, its really hard to memorize... for me at least. A better way would be simply: if you think oh unholy+frost runes as pairs, then you want to prio using your runes always, so that, you use 2 pairs of unholy+frost runes for 2 obliterates, then keep 1 blood rune for refreshing diseases and one for doing blood strike. Always do it like that. Now, because of how timers line up and because of rune grace periods, you will be able to have both blood runes as death runes in a small window so you can obliterate another time. How to identify this window? Because your diseases refresh at the same time, both will have the same timer, so, whenever any of them has AT LEAST 9.5 seconds duration, you can use obliterate and still be able to "catch" the refresh when a blood rune comes back. When your Unbreakable Armor is coming off CD, make sure to prepare your blood runes so that when do you UA+BT you dont end up wasting a blood rune. That single mistake is bigger than the whole use of Flame Caps for example.

Nice guide, Valae! Tons of great work out in here!

One advanced tip that you could also mention is after using your second UA ( and beyond ) you can double oblit, pesti the blood runes ( if the death runes comes back first gotta wait a bit) and oblit again, then use bt/pesti, it allows for an additional obli during UA

Finally a good guide. I just tried out frost DK and it was difficult because I kept thinking I could get 3 obliterates in before refreshing diseases. Did my first 10 man Sunday and it painful with the diseases always coming off because of the 3rd obliterate. I realized after the raid in a dungeon that I just HAVE To refresh after 2 and do a BS but then I thought well, wtf is the reason for them making death runes? The unholy sub spec with the pandemic talent (6 or extra seconds I think) made it a lot of clearer and prob more fun to mash 3 and then still be able to refresh diseases. But I'm blood for awhile since my gear is shit. One other thing I was actually disliking about DK in general is always IT/PS/Pest every pack when they die so fast. I'll try DnD and howling on weaker packs. I actually got glyph of howling blast for the very reason of not wanting to put up diseases every pack in dungeons. But I don't go on spamming FS as much now so I think I'll go back to FS glyph and just use DnD. Is bloodboil worth it for those quick packs? Over all I like the pattern/rhythm you can get into with frost and the big numbers. killing machine 100% FS crits and since it attacks with both it's 2 big crit numbers which is always a feel good!

You should get more views, great guide. Thank you!

This guide has very good info, ty

Bro you're a beast! I'm ranked ~200 allstar right now and I'm totally ashamed to admit I haven't even been using Raise Dead whatsoever lol... Arblarg - Benediction

Wonderful guide. Fell in love with frost early on. Is there an addon that helps spot Rime proc, in all the buffs that pop up everywhere?

Great video, man. My DK's name is Eugh, I'm itching to try out frost now. Straightforward, good niche info, perfect guide.

Not sure if you will still read this, but is it worth to use Str + Hit / Crit gems to activate the socket bonuses in phase 4? And if so, is it better to gem Str + Hit to get closer to spell hit cap or is it better to gem Str + crit? Thanks!

Really awesome guide! Love to see it. A few things that I was hoping you would bring up but you didn't was 1. Army of the Dead. When to pop it, what about snapshotting that, manual crowd pummeler? etc. and 2. What about weaponswapping your offhand between a weapon with Rune of the Crusader to a weapon with Berserking when Crusader proccs, then back ágain once berserking proccs or crusader runs out. ? Is that a thing for frost or only for UH?

Really awesome guide. But I have a question about the second macro. Should we use this macro on every ability? One Makro for Icy touch. One for plague strike and so on?

Great vid! Very informative. I saw your other parse video and was struck by how smooth and unique the visuals were. Any chance you can share your video settings?

Great guide dude! I'm an OG DK player but holy shit there is a lot of good info in here. I've definitely filled in some gaps of my knowledge about the class and spec. One thing I do want to add/suggest/say, I use a swing timer so I can see when I will possibly get a KM proc. The main reason I use it is for HB, it's great in fights with 2/3+ mobs. I've always found it to be a DPS increase for me (especially on AoE fights).

Solid guide, and thanks for clarifying your rotation as the only credible one I could find is from Warmane and that is pretty dated. One thing I noticed you do differently is prioritizing FS>OB when over a threshold of RP, whereas I would always prioritize OB regardless of RP to increase rune usage, but it makes sense being able to not waste RP or go over cap too much. My parses are in the mid 90s right now but using those little tips and trying to snapshot my raise dead should help out tremendously (:

I’ve seen most guides suggesting to use blood strike immediately after pestilence to keep the death runes synced. Do you find it is optimal to solely use blood strike on rune cd and when you don’t have enough runic power for frost strike?

Our BL/Hero shaman is usually a bit slacky and pops it 10-15 secs late sometimes, do i still go full out with this opener or do i wait for BL before popping UA och rune reset?

Is it worth going on unholy sub-spec earlier with the ulduar ilvl changes? Or will the weapon damage from ulduar weapons still be to low?

Leveled as blood on my dk. Was kinda bored when I reached 70 in pre-patch. Gonna try out frost and level it to 80 now.

So i am currently with 4 piece t9 and double caress of insanity and 5374 gs. What do you think is the right spec for that right now?

Tell me, I'm looking at your clothes on wowlogs, and it's different from the one you have in the video.And it was the belt, the ring, the wrists that you gave them, as I understand it, more emphasis on expertise? or is it better to collect equipment like in the video ? Thanks .used google translator

Amazing presentation.

Awesome guide. Thanks for the time

lil tip : u can sometimes save howling blast to use it with a killing machine for a big dmg

Awesome video and explanation, i got a question tho, in the rotation you use UA then Blood TAP but in the macro you have you do BLOOD TAP THEN UA .DOes that change anything if so whats that ?

what do u think about the desync rotation?

I love the frost dk, it has the abilities have the best visuals among the dks. My dk's gearscore is just under 3800. According to wowsim, 15/56/0 does higher dps compared to 0/53/18. Do I need to wait for better gear before going to the latter build?

Do you have any frost DK tank guide? Was mostly thinking about glyphs.

thx!! this is best guide for frost dk!!!!

Good shit. Solid guide.

61 sec before pull Indestructible, 1 sec before pull haste, after 1 min another haste into exec. Triple pot brother.

So for the sub UH spec do you do that when you are full bis in p1 or is that late game thing as in like icc phase?

Great info, thanks !

How do you deal with KM and/or Rime procs during the opener? Do you instantly use it or wait till after to not mess up timings?

I love this video, you are insane Valae!

great video!

Nice guide bro but i have one question about 5man dungeon with Frost DK you can use Unholy presence while we killing trash and switch blood for boss or still stay in blood presence? what is best for dungeons thank you :)

@Valae1 are u using cancleca aura macro for blood tap after u use it ??

Very nice. Can i level as frost? Or do i have to wait until a certain gear level?

why is Angry Dread a better choice over Last Laugh? we get a ton of dmg from auto attacks and LL just flat out has much higher dps. Has anyone actually parsed this or are people just assuming someone has because everyone lists AD as the weapon of choice? I'd like to see some actual stats as opposed to " feel facts"

Really great guide. Perhaps, for a future video, you can go over the rotation in a combat situation. Analyzing some VODs you have of your best parses. Also, quick question, how highly do you value the 4 -piece set bonus over higher ilvl items?

Thanks bro this is sick

awesome content ! high quality gamer

in which weapon damage threshold is it worth to change sub blood to undead?

Do you have a layout for WA which can just be installed as is ?

I always try to play unholy or blood and I keep coming back to frost. I know unholy is highest pvp tier but I just can’t do it.

how is it possible to get off 6 obliterates after ERW before the next pestilence. On tar dummy im lucky if I can squeak off 4. Is that in a lust hero situation? Im running sub blood spec.

22:34 your raised ghoul does not benefit from attack power , haste is correct, it also benefits of strength not attack power if you meant to say that but otherwise its would just be misinformation since trying to snapshot orc racial or mirror trinket proc ( attack power ) would be useless.

my guild only does 10s pull timers on bosses so i can't pot 61s before pull timer, is using indestructible still better as a prepot over potion of speed?

Is using a fast weapon bad? I have torment of the banished equipped currently but also have split greathammer. Not sure which to use.

I don't understand when to cast Pestilence with Blood Strike to sync up runes. Anyone care to explain why/when we should do that?

Perhaps a noob question but what is the reason for the Icy Touch cast before the Rune Strike in the macro?

Which is good weakauras for frost dk? Can you help?

Why don’t you pestilence before howling blast on AOE for the increased damage on the blast, is getting it on cd that important?

Is frost dk really suppose to macro rune strike into all of your abilitys? I was told it was a net dps loss because its overall less frost strikes but im not sure

Best DK guide!

Do we, as a frost dk, ever use the Army of the Dead?

I have a question, Circle of death > Greatring of Collision? Why's that?

Why does this guy not have 200k followers?

I see many other frost DKs, guides and youtubers recommending glyph of icy touch over glyph of frost strike. Whats your opinion on that?

you had me at frost dk

fire vid frost gang!

In aoe packs that will stay alive a while I spread diseases then Howling and follow up with Bloodstrike. I don't understand why persons avoid it. It will do noticeable damage and the one spent blood rune is easily recovered

Thank you for a great guide

baaaased!

With this gear that you showed,I get 6.83% hit (234) how can I get 8-10% that you are saying we should have?

Wouldn't it be better to use one Frost Strike after Obliterate and right before the first Pestilence in the Opener?

if you only get 42 strenght extra from jc couldnt you just have ench then where you get +40 ap per ring?

I would love a rotation video on a target dummy. Sounds like we Hardly use Frost strike.

AotD prepull right?

16:49 Ice Touch crits doesnt proc rime, just obliterate can proc rime

Does the same rotation apply to sub/uh spec?

22:09 another *advance tip* that you should utilize especially in scenarios as showen in the video is to pop AMS + DnD even on ST since you are going to overcap on runic power you want to dump those into Frost Strikes asap which is fine since you just used DnD+ 1 set of runs which lines up perfectly + you re doing free dmg by just using 1 gcd ( dnd) instead of casting 1x Obli+ overcapping on alot of Runic power.

great video

16:45 that's false , only your Obliterates have a 15% chance to proc Rime , not '' your icy touch or obliterates'

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24:00 binding rune strike is good but not in all abiltieis such as Frost strike which still needs rp to be casted , its not a dps gain to lose on a KM FS proc becasue its macroed into a rune strike and therefore rune strike instead of spending the rp on a KM FS .

I'm playing enh shaman but you just made me wanna have a frost DK for my alt :D

Please do an unholy dk vid

So you never cast blood boil in aoe rotation correct?

19:24 you are forgetting your talent : Tundra Stalker , which is why it makes 0 to use Howling blast and then pesti , it should be the other way around that way your Howling blast benefit of the 15% + dmg to infected targets with Frost Fever.

1:38 Blood caked blood does approx 1 % per point so idk where the 5% come from you would usually be around 2-3% with that depending how luck you get. Also BCB basically a 3% st dmg talent has nothing to do why you actually transition to sub unh spec , its just an addition and well spent talent point since you benefit rougly 1% per 1 talent point spent. 2:34 '' the 20% auto dmg doesnt do much'' it literally does more or equal to BcB per talent point spent yet it receives less recognition than bcb ?

With all the armour pen gear blood DK DPS is still viable

I'm stunned people still play.

Str is 2.9 buddy not 2 :D

This guide is way too sweaty for my taste lol.