Frost (SATYRICON): "Black metal scene is conservative. I don't like that" | INTERVIEW 

Yep, it was small, almost closet-like room where Frost was warming up with his drumming accessories - and while it was fine for Frost and his pad, for 4 people trying to fit in there, not only to sit down but also to film it was a nightmare.

It's more like "based on true story" movie than documentary. And it's going to be a movie also about him with Hollywood actor playing him. Fenriz doesn't have a problem with talking about it neither Necrobutcher. So I don't think that asking about it was inappropriate.

It's amazing what the Norwegians, Swedes etc- plus I don't want to forget to mention the first wave black metal bands in The UK, Switzerland etc are able to expound in such great detail while answering to weak questions. Thanks so much for your time and dedication.

for sure.👍

black metal is still niche in the grand scheme of things, relative to other things in mass media. so these repetitive questions are endlessly relevant for any new viewers.

Yeah well, nonetheless people have a right to freedom of their own perspective, and if you refuse to accept that. You're a narcissist....

@@rebekah7244 o_O

Very true. You still hear the sound that was consolidated mainly by Norwegian bands in the early 90's. But the spirit of it is lacking. I was there when the 2nd wave of Black Metal rolled in and latched myself onto it immediately. But the feeling, the intention behind it, it's mostly gone. I rarely discover Black Metal bands who can capture that same essence, that unique spirit that was very much alive in Black Metal in the arly 90's. But there is nothing that can come close to the early Burzum, Darkthrone, Immortal, Gorgoroth, Mayhem, Satyricon albums. Practically nothing since the mid 90's has that ambiance. It sounds similar on the surface, but it has become a copy, a simulation of what was done in the early 90's. Even worse, it has become a dogma, and that might very well be the main problem with Black Metal music today. There was no dogma back in those days, it was anti-dogmatic. The whole idea of a Black Metal dogma is ironic, because it is exactly what Black Metal should not be about. It is the expression of your own darkness, of completely ignoring trends and expectations and let that darkness flow from you with integrity and genuineness, not limiting yourself to preconceived notions of what you should be and what you should sound like. I'm not saying that all bands that are Black Metal these days are shit because of this, because even without all this there is still interesting music emerging from the Black Metal scene. But in my perspective, the most interesting and captivating Black Metal these days is created by musicians who do not adhere to the traditional, conservative notions of Black Metal, but who pave their own way, create their own sound and image, exude their own spirit of darkness.

It all came from bands like Bathory, Sarcofago and Sodom..

"These men are artists and intellectuals of a high caliber." Bro, this is complete reddit. You may have had a point but you gushed and went overboard.

@@blackcorridors if you want to believe that my statement is a sensitive reaction, that is your own projection. a classic leftist trope. another example possibly, of a person making a casual statement, and then being completely misinterpreted, by.. a leftist? correct? are you one of those .. is that what this is.. not sure, dont want to be presumptuousssss ... i can only recommend that you get more exercise, and if you have any soy in your diet you should avoid that. these are just some universally beneficial tips for general health.. completely unrelated to politics. only trying to help.

Seethe.

@@troloosauhund8747

Hate created some of the best albums ever...ever notice when artists finally achieve success and money and they get happy their albums suck???rather have them channel their hate into the music....stop trying to throw unicorn dust and rainbows on black metal dipshit

@@truthhurts79 As if lyrics would matter in Black Metal.

the way you explain Black Metal sounds like more of an Anton Lavey influenced interpretation of Black Metal rather than the "shit heads" you refer to, i'm sure ppl like my avatar etc... which r the ppl who actually came up with the scene behind the genre Black Metal. without those shitheads Black Metal would have just been an album title by a band who did heavy music. they got the inspiration for Black Metal from the theatrics of the music & turned it into a movement, just like punk & ne other group that goes along with a certain scene related to music. Blaxk Metal was anti xhristian in nature, even with the lavey influence just more superficial/metaphorical sense. Euronymous & the other shit heads were giving the spiritual & tangible effect against christianity, they were just young & stupid & didn't realize what they were actually dealing with & they ended up turning on themselves & each other instead of doing what was really needed. music is supposed to inspire movements not just b white noise in the background, which oddly enough is how i'm sure a lot of ppl would describe Black Metal. art is supposed to inspire movement, in some form & not all movement is meant to stay metaphorical or simply cathartic.

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You can thank Euronymous for a lot of that stupidity as well. It wasnt just overreacting Christians. Euronymous was getting guys to claim they love evil and praise evil if anyone asked. They were young and didn't know what they were talking about. The only BM artist I know of who claims to have been reading Satanic books and practicing witchcraft was Quorthon from Bathory.

agreed!

How does it make sense that Black Metal is conservative.

@Samael Right ??

@Samael I should restate that i am conservative , and i dig alot of Black Metal , not just Asagraum .

@Samael Yeah Lol , that why i had just restated my first comment . lol

I think they are one of the greatest band on the planet. Deffianately the greatest band that came out of Norway BM scene. Legends. I love the style they gelled into and glad they did what they wantewd and are not pigeon holed into being "Black Metal" just for the sake of pleasing low intelligence. And it's not boring. It fucking rules in every way. Is black as ever, they never were anything but Satyricon from the start they always did what they wanted. I woudlnlt care if they did aa rock and roll album or any other kind of music, simply because they are good songwriters and it would just be good regardless.

20 years is a long time my man. I can see your point if they had a stint of black n roll and then moved on again to black metal as usual. I would say man that was a strange time for them. But its been as you said 20 damned years. This style outlasted the old. Sorry man. THIS IS Satyricon for better or worse, like it or not. 20 years later and yall still hope for the old. Thats a quarter of your potential life time. You should’ve gave up and moved on a long time ago man.

Let's just all agree that Satyricon are pretty meh, but 1349 are fucking AMAZING.

20 years blacknroll, what are your ears made from?

"BRIDGE between RE and Volcano and their later stuff" /Delusional Guy

I meant Frost, but okay, you actually mentioned it. What bridge between RE and Volcano and their later stuff? Volcano was actually part of a "bridge", indeed a trilogy of Volcano-Diabolical-Nero, that introduced a more simplistic Satyricon aesthetic. That "bridge" lead to the self-titled, of which the plodding nachtmusik of the current record is a direct continuation (alas, minus the melodic creativity that was still present on Satyricon). If there isn't any trace of sth on "Deep", it's indeed the fury of RE.

You're right in a way, but I also think there are resemblances - not exactly in style of music, but in the approach. On "DCUD" Satyricon seems to continue the more raw, straight-forward approach (while maintaining "rockyness" of songs), but also pushes some experimentation and extreme reverence to details and nuances. Still, it's only my opinion.

I'm not sure I could call adding a little sax and operatic vocal here and there, experimentation. It's ornamentative at best, and it doesn't sit well. Not even Enslaved are too successful in fully incorporating prog-rock and jazz-fusion influences, let alone Satyricon who still push that macho masculinity while trying to be "intellectual" and supposedly experimentative. I don't think they know where they are at this point - which is all too evident in this Frost interview. Pompous, talking from a high horse and in delusion, in promotion of a record which is an obvious failure and likely the end of Satyricon.

Btw, what documentary are you referring to?

They haven't put out a bad album yet. Deffinately one of thetop metal bands in the last 40 years i been a metal head. Satyricon rules. Fuck pousers.

Satyricon's most accessible stuff is still far from commercial

It is a more honest setting where Frost can speak freely, if one would have a lot of imagery and chaotic action it would feel forced. Do you care about what he says or what are you here for? Just wondering...