One thing that I like with this scenario is that is shows how much of a monumental task it was to build just one generator and adds weight on just how much effort was made to ensure that at least some of humanity would survive.
@@dr.nikolasivory8193 Yeah, I may be necroposting, but I was just about to ask "How the hell did they get that hole in the ground to begin with?" - it won't just magically appear, there must've been a whole drilling sequence and then infrastructure setup.
@@dr.nikolasivory8193only problem is that the debris would collect at the bottom instead of falling out of the hole, so you’d need a system to somehow pick it up, and I don’t think they had vacuum systems.
@@J-Johna-Jameson Human, horse, or steam operated cranes is what I'm assuming would be used. Romans, Egyptians, and many other historic nations used them.
Something that grabbed my attention: 34:50 Translation of French to English "Minister of the Navy and the Colonies. Warehouse #4" "Hello gentlemen. Here are your vapor cores. Please sign here. And here. It should be enough to repair the snowbreaker" crève-neige=snowbreaker 40:25 We find a massive steam engine that is wrecked due to the earth giving way/tracks buckling due to engine's weight. Inscribed is "crève-neige #12" 41:44 At the Freight Terminal we find people living off canned food as they wait for a crève-neige to arrive. We tell them no one is coming and they pack up and leave. 43:14 The tracks are lost under the ice. It seems to me that the people at the Freight Terminal survived off supplies delivered by the snowbreaker engine. I'm sure that when they were first implemented things went smoothly. Chances are the engines also had something like the "Pilot/Cow Catcher" to clear the tracks of the ice and snow. Unfortunately, the weight of the engines took their toll over time, and without proper land/track maintenance the continued use caused the earth beneath the tracks to become dislocated. It was the weight of engine #12 moving over that one location that proved to be too much, causing the tracks to buckle and putting the engine in its present situation. Without the engine running, not only were people going hungry but the tracks could not be cleared. Word of the crash was sent by those on the train (who were not seriously injured) to the supervisors, and the old man put together what was needed to get the engine working again. So fixing the engine seems somewhat possible, but the rails are another story. And how are you supposed to get that engine back ON the rails? That thing is HUGE.
It's a nod to "Transperceneige" (Snowpiercer) a french graphic novel. So while the british were working on the reactors, France was going for eternal engines.
@@Z501 I kinda wonder if Frostpunk 2 will have a DLC taking place in the US, I want to know what was the reaction of the equatorial regions to the frost
Late to the party, but I earned the Bonus Pater Familias (no deaths), Perfectionist (all upgrades, no faults) and Home Before Christmas (finish Generator before last shipment) achievements thanks to this video. All my thanks Dr. Ivory for a fantastic guide! That housing block of yours is genius! I hope to see more of your miracles for Frostpunk 2!
@@Depressed_Spider i think he mean literaly pivot them, like turn the batiment with the wheel clic ( (at least is the default keybind for me) he done it with the medical building at 5:05 for exemple
Oh. Heck. Yes. Ima grab some snacks. I was just thinking about how I wanted to watch a play through of this DLC. So glad the doc himself is the one I get to watch!
I dont know about you, but when they put those final bolts in the generator and that powerful horn blows admitst cheers of celebration i get chills. Iconic moment
After putting some of the clues together, I just realised how important Winterhome project was, it must be like one of if not the most important and funded project out of all Generator Project. Winterhome straight up received dozens of already made parts as shipment while you only get raw material sent and needed to build the part on site. Maybe because Winterhome location is a lot more inland so it's better to transport already made part instead of raw material due to lack of water(dock) access. And maybe that's why they couldn't adapt to the lack of parts, they didn't have the raw resources to make the parts.
Winterhome was strategically placed behind the lee of a giant stone arch, which would have provided the city adequate cover from any storms and dropping temperatures. Notice how, in the Fall of Winterhome scenario, temperatures drop only once in a while. No wonder it would be considered the largest and most important generator project. It stood the best chance of being the ark for humanity until the eventual thaw, however long that may take. I'd wager to guess that were it not for faulty parts and incompetent leadership, Winterhome would have had no problems weathering The Great Storm.
unfortunately despite Site 113's Director of operations return of the vital components, the same man the supply carriers put in charge of securing the supply's to begin with promptly switched the 4 and the 1 in 41, resulting in the supplies being delivered to site 14 instead. atleast this is how i imagine it happened since Winterhome still falls due to a faulty generator.
Actually, the supplies found were only a part of the supplies ment for Winterhome, as some of the most vital parts for the generator wernt found by the crew in this scenario. To think, Winterhome fell because of the fact that something important wasnt delivered to it
Even if winterhome got its supplies delivered I'm still convinced they'd fuck it up somehow considering they put literal children in charge of their city planning
It’s been two years since you posted these runs, a few months since I’ve stumbled upon them, and I still love your ruthless efficiency and beauty on all of them. I’ll never do extreme (mainly cause console is a bitch to navigate) but if my PC ever wants to work properly and I think about it, I’m gonna use your videos as a step by step guide. I wish you’d do the other two scenarios at one point but understand if you won’t. Much love, Doc
Your preemptive planning is god tier. I've been struggling with this scenario. It's very unique. You have a completely different take on this than myself and many others. The planning for the living area, perfect. You have ran this scenario before. You waited until the first scripted strike which occurs nearly the same time as toxic gases, and sign bath house. That was perfect. Perfect coverage too. The only thing which I don't understand is on PC you have no deadlines for stages which makes following this video on console not possible.
@@dr.nikolasivory8193 alright then. I've adopted your housing strategy though. It's perfect. Going to use your strategy as a template to get the remaining achievements I have left. I just have the worker/convict/engineer ones left, and Fall of Winterhome Survivor which is so unforgiving.
@@coreytrevor287 I agree - TFoW is by far the most unforgiving one, but at the same time is rather flexible when it comes to just end it (since you can launch the dreadnought with just one (?) deck
Just discovered you, appreciated the art although I was never gonna comment anything, as I had nothing of interest to add. But man, all this marvelous gameplay from a guy who makes icebreakers? What a great craftman!
34:50 THAT SNOWPIERCER REFERENCE HAD ME *HOWLING*. Shame they didn't reference the actual original name of the train, "Le Transpierceneige", instead of literally translating Snowpiercer back to french as "Crève-neige"
54:04 nice bath house placement 1:06:16 The most difficult decision in this mission 😁 2:03:00 People, who decided to quit and refused salary two hours before the end of the works 😂
200 people is the necessary amount? Currently attempting to get the iron man achievement. Everything is going extremely well. The scripted event for the strike and signing bath house, all while using your house/faith/ layout is so damn good. Maximum coverage for the single bathhouse is just amazing. I have to say it again. Now I am just debating how many people i need to keep materials flowing while building generator.
My amount was calculated exactly to fill my full one bath house coverage +comfortable quarters law signed. It was purely a minimalistic and aesthetic choice. I think it is fine to bring more or less people.
@@dr.nikolasivory8193 Extreme is the same as survivor minus being able to save scum correct? The last 4 achievements i need are all survivor mode (FoH, OTE, TLA) and Iron man TLA. Man, they're rough. But I will stick to what you said. With your layout of 23 tents, (4 extra behind middle chapel,) that adds up to 184 beds. I will have to add 2 tents to total to 25. I'm just struggling with a priority list. I'm just going to focus on rushing gen production to make sure I get achievement, not too worried about no deaths but it seems relatively easy to avoid them. You don't take in workers camp correct? I don't. Only engineers from other site. Any other tips for extreme/survivor?
@@coreytrevor287 Survivor is the same as extreme (not completely sure) but without saves or pauses. They are quite easy to avoid if prepared in advance.On the contrary - relatively hard if reacted on the spot. I think I did take everyone, because I've been saving a couple of comfortable laws till the late game as a bargaining tool for solving possible strikes which those 40 (or 50) workers trigger from time to time.
@@dr.nikolasivory8193 Hey Doc, still struggling to get this. Man, IDK what I'm doing wrong, but I keep ending up with 2 less steel on day 1 or I get good RNG on the start, and then i have people eat extra rations and then I'm left with 2 starving people. This is so rough. I'm going to keep trying. I suck at early game so I'm trying to follow your video to the T. Without pause I always end up a little late on the things you achieve; being unable to pause n micro workers is the reason. Regardless, this is by far the best and fastest guide I've found. After this it's on to OTE.
@@coreytrevor287 My strategy probably won't work on survivor, since it's very tight on micro. But if you make it work that'll be great. There is a bug or something weird about rations on day three, or two, but I am in no condition to explain it in detail right now, sorry. I wanted to record a video but I am not sure whether YT even continue to work in the nearest future here. A little tip - you HAVE to feed everyone BEFORE evening (don't remember the exact time). Literally cancel all the work and wait till they all eat, like I did in the video, otherwise they will become hungry just because.
Honestly, I feel like they really missed the opportunity to turn this site into an endless mode location. Getting to build New Liverpool after constructing the generator for the city would've been so fun.
I didn't know you could finish and leave before the sea became frozen lol. I was like "Why is he not stockpiling food and researching the heat technologies", and then you just finished the scenario hahaha
My dude you prob dont read this but i seen your runs at least 10 times, ALL of them. This game and your gameplay relax me. Maybe is weird but thanks for it. It gives me hope than hard times can be surpassed. Anyway i will stop rambling. Hope to see some more runs when Frostpunk 2 releases!!
This is my favorite DLC in this game and you played it masterfully!! I wish youbhad more content on your channel because i would watch it on repeat and learn something new each time. Incredible!
Not gonna watch this one yet, want to do my own playthroughs first - but just wanted to say I’ve enjoyed your other 2 videos. you doing all the scenarios?
Saw this right after your on the edge video and damn that was intense, but also a good video. One thing that annoyed me was the constant cookhouse rebuilding. Also this may be late, but I've found that on the easiest difficulty you can temporarily give your worker double hearty meals via the two shift policy upgrade.
Another amazing video, I'd love to know some of the basic tactics or principles that went into these decisions, it's hard to reverse engineer what benefit you're getting from all the strange things you do and how you build.
@@dr.nikolasivory8193 Thanks man. I added you on discord. I posted in another comment thread on this video but just incase you haven't seen it: it turns out this run of yours was bugged; the gathering post rates are equivalent to hard mode and not extreme mode. Very unfortunate. But following the build order in the first 3 days is still enough to win extreme ezpz. So lame how many bugs TLA has...but c'est la vie.
@@rsk-1337 I've just created a new game, and all the ratios are the same. Plus hard and extreme ratios look the same to me as well (maybe the difference is like 0.1-3. Your ratios might be different maybe due to gathering post placement?
Hey, I think the reason the censorship thing showed up at the end is becuase you confiscated the photo. I really don't mind though! This is a beautiful run!
Hello! I found your channel just yesterday and subscribed because I see many things that you do, that I can apply in my runs. I have a question tho. Why do you keep some buildings unfinished and paused for so long? Thank you!
Sometimes I use them as future layout, sometimes I need them to be finished almost instantly because of some event, so I leave them just a second unfinished.
I've made 15 attempts at copying your Day 1 exactly. No matter how careful I am, how perfectly I copy your run, to the exact minute, I still end up with only 41 wood at 18:00 Day 1. What am I doing wrong??
To be honest, the only way I can help you is either if I can see the recording of the first day of yours, or if you write me a very detailed report of how you understand what you've done. But I should mention that this scenario is quite buggy, so you just might have fallen to a random glitch.
I think it might, although, I'm not sure. The gases levels are done on the way that it is more convenient to finish the frames first, due to core needs to be safe.
3 HOURS. Only 3 hours remained till i finish generator and we didn't make it. Everyone was starving and dying from cold,. And that after perfect deathless attempt in New Home. Now it's 3 am and im pissed enough to watch trough whole Docs video.
How did you get your motivation growing consistently in the first 40 minutes? I've had chapels cover 100% of my pop and folks eating hearty meals and each day I would still lose a little motivation. Is it growing because you haven't put down the shaft structure yet or something? I guess I should just keep watching to find out lol
Small question: you seem to order steam cores quite a few time. Wouldn’t have signing for the free cores for the French Station 34:50 have been a better option and then going to the train to collect more have netted you more Steam Cores early on? That part has stumped me why you’d do that. Although you have given me quite a few pointers in this video how I might be doing my own run of this wrong when it comes to layout.
34:50 was purely roll-play. Didn't want to steal steam cores that weren't mine, especially because I was doing great without them. On my runs, I'm trying to play as honest as the game mechanics allow me to
Years later these playthroughs are still the best guides for us, wish you had of played it at a slower pace to follow, nevertherless awesome play! P/s FP2 beta lost its immersion, feels like a Civ game.
Interesting to me that you were able to use the safety escapes for the scripted disasters without being a Safe workplace. Also noticed the ventilation fan was off most of the time, what was up with that?
Frostpunk 2 needs more stuff like that opening. More personal pop-ups and cinematics, perhaps something where you can see the city burning or something. As DDRJake said, it wouldn't be good to just have Frostpunk 1.5, but some storytelling implements could certainly be improved. And definitely UI. Auugh, if they improved the UI it would be so much better as a city-builder. What do I know? Steamless, opinion rejected. I can't really say much just based on people's playthroughs.
I'll be honest - I have no Idea :D Never have been so desperate to even look at this law - medicine is not a problem in the scenario. I've never gone higher in the law tree than overseers, so that part of the game is a mystery to me as well. I feel really uncomfortable to use radical laws even as a saver - prefer to plan my steps to avoid any troubles whatsoever.
I can't tell if there's a patch released between then and now that changes the difficulty and/or resource gathering rate, or if I'm just hitting a bug. I can hit the benchmark for day 1 fine (~50 wood 11 steel), but on day 2 you end up with 27 more wood and 11 more steel. We both started the day with 0 wood. I checked and verified that at no point did my wood piles nor my gathering posts dip below 100% efficiency, so we should be getting roughly the same amount of wood for a full workday, but that's just not the case. And the discrepancy is not related to the timing of the 4th gathering post since that one doesn't gather wood at all. Super confused!! The fact that I have more or less the same gathering on day 1 makes me think I must be hitting some weird bug (or conversely that your run had a bug in the opposite direction ie gathering too much, but I doubt that...)
Hmm, some further data is in the economy screen (pressing O) I see 137 wood / day listed as my income. By contrast you pulled in 160 wood on day 2 (125 wood @ 05:57 in the video, adding back 25+10 for medtent and gath post is 160). Looking at the steel pile I can see your gathering rates directly from pile are the same as mine. However, on gathering posts, as best as I can tell (hard b/c you dont click on gathering posts too often and usually it's when theyre not full efficiency so im having to account for that), your gathering posts are gathering way more steel, relatively speaking, than mine (despite same placement). So that might actually explain the wood discrepancy: you run out of the steel piles sooner, meaning your gathering posts can focus all on wood. AFAICT the wood harvesting rate of the gathering posts seems in line with mine (but hard to tell b/c again not much clicking on posts for me to compare to). Here's some test numbers for my gathering posts: gathering post w 2 wood 1 steel = 3.2/h wood and .7/h steel gathering post w 1 wood 1 steel = 2.3/h wood and 1.1/h steel gathering post w 1 wood = 4.5/h gathering post w 1 steel = 2.3/h Whereas comparatively for you, at 03:07 in the vid, your gathering post at 50% efficiency w 1 wood 1 steel is 1.2 wood/h and .9 steel/h, which works out to ~2.4 wood/h and 1.8 steel/h at full efficiency. As you can see that's like 70% more steel and the same amount of wood income! This is explaining so much why your steel is going up so damn high... So my conclusion is either, you had a bug that got you more from gathering post, or it's been changed in patch since you did this playthrough and now (early 2023).
Okay, I figured it out. The gathering post rates in this run are equivalent to the hard mode gathering rates. This is a bug. I found a reddit comment that described it, but can't find the comment again ATM. TLDR is that it seems like in some conditions (maybe this was a past bug since fixed), extreme and/or survivor runs will start with hard mode gathering rates instead of extreme. Apparently exiting and loading the save will end up with the correct rates though. So a bit unfortunate that this run is actually technically not extreme although not intentional. Just to state the obvious tho, all the magic is in the first few days / the building layout so it's still very straightforward to win the scenario. The feeding everyone day 3 is brilliant. But yeah a bit unfortunate that that bug impacted this run... For a second I was going crazy not being able to match the gathering rate on day 2, but now it all makes sense :)
@@rsk-1337 To be honest I haven't found anything that confirms this. I've re-created all conditions just now, and all ratios are still the same. I've not only re-load save, but quit the game and launched it again, and all ratios remained the same nonetheless. I agree on the fact that TLA is either bugged, or heavily modified in order to pump up the difficulty (let's just remember the food bug and mass starvation at day 3)
@@dr.nikolasivory8193I just tried it and the bug is still in the game. Unless you reload from save, all the gathering posts will gather way more than they should on extreme difficulty. For example, with the placement from this video, the second post will go from 30 wood & 15 steel per day to 22 wood and 11 steel per day.
I have just met with the same situation, and I already commented an open question. And now I found this comment of yours with more details. I also ran similar tests because I was going crazy. After my tests, my conclusion was that there is a bug with the difficulties, or the video is fabricated in some way, I definietly dont think it was intentional, so I went with the bug and read after it. And I found probably the same stuff as you did. The thing is, I hate to wait for the cutscene, and the first few moves are always the same, so I have a savefile, that I use as a seed, so my runs I always reloded, so the bug is kinda fixed for me. The rates match with the difficulty setting. And I think that this video is effected with this bug sadly. But dont misunderstand. This run was phenomenal. I was in awe several times. Insane details, and ideas. Insane video :)
@@dr.nikolasivory8193 ahh I see. That explains things. I think part of the issue is that as you get further from the generator, the grid can't remain perfectly in line with the previous line of buildings so you end up with annoying gaps between buildings you can't use or buildings taking up more space than they need as they stretch themselves to fill the area. Did you have a tutorial posted anywhere I could look at to get a better idea of how to do this?
@@syrusalder7795 Unfortunately I don't have tutorials of any kind, because I never thought about constantly making content for RU-vid anyway. I've created this channel specifically to practice English in comments, lol. If you are interested in vids - Crystal Dazz has a nice guide about shrinking buildings (the one I've learned from). Or, if you have a lot of free time, hit me on discord and I'll explain whatever I know.
@@dr.nikolasivory8193 well I think you can consider it a success, considering I wouldn't have known English wasn't your primary language from the comments I've seen.
@@dr.nikolasivory8193 oh sorry, didn't notice the second half of that message before now. which video exactly did you learn it from? can't see one specifically about shrinking buildings, so i assume it was something that came up in a specific one
I know it is very very late but I think the reason why it says you had a censorship in the end was because you confiscated that photo of a "lady friend"? At 49:02
When I finished the fully upgraded generator with no flaws it said "chance of survival: acceptable" Did they reword it or did i miss smth? edit: some say that you get "average" if you finish pre frost and "acceptable" otherwise other say that if you finish with heating infrastructure in place you get "acceptable". otherwise "average"
@@dr.nikolasivory8193 yeah i tested it out the difference is purely whether its finished before day 38 or not i guess when the frost hits the IEC realises average is good enough
Can anyone please help me recreate day 2? I followed everything down to the last detail. At first I slightly messed up the timings with the workers, but second try I got everything, there were like 2 second differences where he or I paused (meaning I had the res for the gathering post or the medical post). I checked several times, and played it out several times, I am doing everything as shown, even the minute details like that random road, that made the engineers not work on the 4th gathering post etc... My problem is, after the first day, that was perfect, the second day I do it perfectly too, but at the end of the day the video has more res than me. At 18:00 he has 125 wood and 43 metal, the best I got is 99,31. Any ideas? Should I upload how I did it, and search for clues, of what went differently in my version?
53:27 I must have gotten the spacing just barely off, the tent to the far right is just barely out of range and I have no idea where I went wrong. I don't know how to fix it without demolishing the entire area either.
Question, how does one acquire a better chance of survival in the end? Here's why I ask: in some videos, the survival rate is average, but in others, it's acceptable.
I think you withheld the photo of a naked woman in one of the letters. That was the only time you censored your workers mail...and they gave you censorship in the epilogue for it. Honestly though, one time shouldnt matter that much. Hat tip to your logistical professionalism. I like to imagine the generator that kept my city alive was yours :D
Watched this to try and get some ideas, and to answer your question in the description: You stole the bawdy picture, I'm pretty sure that's why it said censorship.
