There is a major inconsistency with the following two arguments. ACC argues that FSU effectively communicated their intention to breach (anticipatory breach), so their suit was not premature. At the same time the approval was retroactive. If it was so clear the ACC could file, since FSU was about to file suit, then why did the ACC not get approval in advance? Either FSU imminent filing was clear or it was not. If clear have a vote, including all members. I think that the FSU Board of Trustees argument is weak. The president of FSU clearly had apparent authority. I believe that there will be a stay. Will a NC judge really be willing to rule on FL sovereign immunity and then watch as a Florida court could reach an opposite ruling on its own state law? The NC judge must consider Florida law since it is a sovereign entity. I believe that both cases will go on, particularly with the AG of Florida involved, which I take for granted will happen.
ACC and its members should thank FSU. Exposing the bad ESPN deal allows the remaining conference members to negotiate a better media deal. #Free FSU! FSU to B1G! Go Noles!
The Acc is going to get a much better deal then they had. Fsu didn't have the foresite to realize that and they ll go off to a conference far away. Just when the playoff expands and it ll be easier to make the playoff. What Fsu is doing makes no sense. They ll be paying out millions a year to the Acc, not really doing better. Meanwhile the Acc gets a much better deal with expanded playoffs. Fsu is really missing it.
If the race to the courthouse win is important…then so should be the fact that FSU had not actually filed the suit when the conference took the preemptive strike. In other words, does an actual filing matter or not, timing wise? Seems the ACC wants its cake and eating it too
@@garlandalmarode6396 that’s the point …..if filing first in actuality, matters…then the ACC argument that FSU breached by filing is moot as the ACC filed first…can’t have it both ways
Yes, the lawyer broke everything down very well. However, if the cases get kicked up to the federal court system, the cases will end up in the Supreme Court, This is because Florida is in the 11th Circuit and North Carolina is in the 4th Circuit.
Thanks for the work Doug, but.... I spent my last vacation injured and recovering to go back to work. My next vacation is so very far away. Jealousy meter is of the meter
An outside the box idea- If they are able to get out of ACC But cannot immediately join Big ten or SEC … how much of a chance or if even possible have a Notre Dame deal with ACC or Big XII; for example independent scheduling for football but all sports with that league?
I do have proof on one thing The college football playoffs wear rigged A team that ranked 4th after going 12-0 has never moved down a spot after beging a top 15 team witch Florida state did That the first time ever from 1950 on that a team ranked 4th playing a top 15 team in a extra.game.has.ever moved down and.had not one.but two.teams jump.them
Are you talking about the ACC kickoff? That’s usually July or august I think. This year the teams are going different dates so won’t be as awkward lol.
FSU shouldn’t to pay anything to leave the conference. Once they leave the conference will dissolve. Keep up the fight FSU Canes Nation is with you in this fight.
@@jrjd63 that’s not likely at all. There are 15 members currently. 4 to 6 will leave eventually. The rest will sit tight to get all the exit fee money and GOR money that may be paid. If the Pac2 can hang on with just 2 members for the next two years, 9 or 10 schools in the ACC will definitely keep it going for as long as they have a media deal of some sort. If espn doesn’t back out in the next two years, the ACC just adds USF, Navy, Army and Tulane plus however many it needs to get back to the 15 member number that ESPN has stipulated.
Great question! The PAC2 just approved language in their deal that if the conference collapses, a percentage goes back to the members who paid the exit fees. This keeps them from just closing the doors and pocketing the money. I suspect any FSU / CLEM deal would include similar language.
Question is, who would have been the two thirds? I could see wake forest, Boston college, syracuse for sure, maybe Pitt and Louisville. Highly doubt any of the magnificent seven (Clemson, Miami, UNC, UVA, NCST, VT) would have voted yes. Duke? GT? ND?
Definitely yes to Duke, GT, & ND- NCSU and VT likely would have as well. They don’t really have (or want in ND’s case) a landing spot other than maybe B12.
Great content. I am an FSU Law alum living in NC and many attorneys have raised the topic w me! Do you think there may be conflict of interest IF a Judge is an alumnus or strong ties to an ACC school or even a rival like uf?
Did Florida State know about the clause in the contract that ESPN could unilaterally extend the contract in 2027? If they didn't know about this prior to signing the contract could this impact the case and Florida State's attempt to leave the conference?
Then does FSU have a leg to stand on? This is not what the signed up for. They, in essence, are only legally obligated to follow the contract they knowingly signed, which is the end of 2027.@@dougrohan6746
Just out of curiosity, is there any chance that in the end, the judge can rule against the Noles & say, you signed the damn contract, & all these years had no apparent problem with it, now because you feel that the monies aren't being split evenly enough btween schools & blahblahblah....but no, you have to honor your signature & you must stay, in the ACC. Any chance this can happen? Inquiring minds want to know.
@@waynebennett745 I actually think they (fsu) are pathetic for claiming all this & filing their briefs, this lawsuit, after they got left out of the playoffs! 3 years in, 5, 10 years into their contract with the ACC, they weren't saying spit about how unfair it all seemed to be. No problems until THAT fact occured. If they hadn't have gotten skipped over, they wouldn't be pushing so much to get out of this grant of rights & the ACC!
@@JR_3781 No I am not a lawyer, true. I don't even play one on tv, however....my initial question WAS answered. That the judge, if he wants, in the end he does not have to release fsu from that contractual obligation with the ACC. All the rest is just blahblah truthfully. And say what you want, what I'd said is correct. fsu never bitched about any of this, in public at least, until they got left out of the CFP! That's real now!
Does the ACC have to also publish its meeting minutes to its members? If they had a secret meeting with only 10 of their weakest links who all unanimously voted in favor of suing FSU, FSU, as a member, should have access those minutes. And, is there anything in bylaws about excluding members from voting? Seems crooked to do an after the fact vote without all the members. Lastly, can we argue that exclusion from voting rights = not a member. Go Noles!
