Fu Jian Yong Chun White Crane kung Fu Shr San Tai Bau 2007 

10 years without any dislikes on this clip - only a matter of time before one of my old soviet enemies found me and gave me the good ol thumbs down!

@Obsidian1392 posted new clip which is how we train with 2 people. Was stimulated to do this because of your question. - thanks - best wishes.

Nicely done. Good root, clean movement with clear intention, consistent focus ... well done taolu. Only by engaging in heavy contact, non-cooperative sparring can you entrain the neurological pathways associated with power issuing and receiving in combat. The non-cooperation element reduces or eliminates the tendency to anticipate and heavy contact creates force loading that approximates what is experienced in real world. Structures need to undergo rapid force loading of significant magnitude in order for the body to adapt and withstand structures warping upon contact. Maintaining balance and the ability to step/move when struck is a good example of the phenomena I am referring to. People that practice against air or a mechanical apparatus become skilled ... at applying their chosen MA in the air or a training device. Which simply means, no one who exclusively practices taolu ever beat a skilled MA who also seriously spars just as no swimmer ever beat a sprinter in a foot race. "The body becomes its function."

Thank you stuart - yes the style is mostly that way althoug we are concentrating quite a lot of attention on what our lower body is doing even if we are stationary during the training.

Thanks for off-line response. I know that RU-vid doesn't allow a lot of room for extensive remarks. I'm an old martial artist myself; went back to it in September 2010 & sparred again for first time in November 2011. We also did some of our forms then (style's a bit unusual since our teacher, a Korean, was heavily influenced by Chinese systems. You can see what our sparring looks like on RU-vid (see Perri Mirsky Sparring). Forms a little harder. Haven't figured how to "RU-vid" them yet!

Excellent Form! I practice Shito-Ryu Karate and used to practice Kenpo Karate, but have always wanted to study White Crane Kung Fu. I wish I could train at your club in Majorca...

Very nice job! Thanks for sharing!

No problem - had to off line as I can't do chinese in these comments. Thanks for link to sparring clip. Never to old to train I think - in our stuff you are middle age at 50, and then hopefully know something 15 years later I think when you are retired and actually have time to train slowly. Regards, Martin

Seisan!!! This is seisan! I can tell!

@Obsidian1392 Hi - I have never trainined sparring in China in this. They do compete in San Da competition however the last years - I do not know how they prepare for that. Regarding self defence drills, in China I have not seen drills practiced repetitively for defence although there are exercises. In the context of the art though, it is a little like saying "where are the health exercises in boxing it is all just fighting" - it is wrapped up.

Yes, I know there are 13 steps in the one I know, just the hand movements are different, so how many forms do you? And the video I have of me doing the form is taken a few days after i learned it with me explaining the movements to myself so i don't forget lol so if record another one i will put it up.

@martinpaulwatts to continue - ( word limit ) I do agree that unless the applications are practiced a little more rigourously they cannot be applied proplerly, but I am sure that the people who want to be applying them are doing that - as are we. Personally I have met people who probably do not practice fighting i.e. are training just forms and exercises, but who I certainly do not think I could take out in a fight so this must be another route. feel free to pm me if you are interested. martin

Nicely done ... clean.

Very nice, Martin!

Not just Kanshiwa, I seem to detect a hint of Uechi no Seisan as well... which is very interesting given the name of this form...

A very nice looking form and smoothly performed. I take it the style is mostly hands with minimal kicks/legwork involved?

Around 20 forms.

sorry no - I you like I could put a couple of cool hurty things from San Zhan on a clip - do you train any particular style? Regards, martin

Thanks. The reason it is called 13 is that there are 13 steps if you count them. how many steps are there in your form? May be you could post for me here or private and I could tell you if I recognise the second section from anther form.

looks like UECHIRYU Kanshiwa kata.

Thats well good, I know a different version of this, the first 8 steps are nearly exactly the same but after that there are some big differences. Like the kick, in the version that I know there is no kick.

Amazing

Actually tried a more detailed reply than above but RU-vid ddidn't allow. Right now I'm interested in searching out influences on my teacher (died in 2004). Besides returning to regular practice I'd like to know the geneological antecedents of the style he left. Your clip on gauging style purity was interesting though sometimes more practitioners means more change, no? For instance I may be the sole repository of my teacher's system circa early 70's who still remembers it as he taught it then.

@Obsidian1392 I found a nice sparring one yesterday it was pretty damn awesome! Can't remember the name unfortunately.

@stealthassassin8 yes UECHIRYU kanshiwa kata

How many forms in the system? This is a version of the style that some believe Wing Chun traces back to, right? And also various of the Okinawan Naha te karate styles? Is it one of the antecedents of Sanchin (as seen in various iterations in Goju Ryu, Uechi Ryu, Kyokushin, etc.)? Or is Sanchin traceable to another white crane form?

not trying to sound rude, but why is it whenever I look up this style on youtube I can never see sparring or defence drills?

Very nice :)

interesante grulla ... con que en mallorca mmm