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Fueling a Clean Supersonic Plane Comeback 

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Could supersonic airplanes be the future of clean air travel? To start comparing quotes and simplify insurance-buying, check out Policygenius: policygenius.com/undecidedwit.... Thanks to Policygenius for sponsoring this video! After the Concorde was retired in 2003 because of economic and environmental issues, supersonic flight vanished from our skies. Yet, nearly two decades later, the supersonic passenger jet might be making a return. The startup, Boom, has promised an affordable supersonic jet, which runs on a net zero carbon fuel from Prometheus. Is this going to be a profitable and eco-friendly boom or just a noisy bust?
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@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Год назад
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@theod9548
@theod9548 Год назад
I think it's a bit like F1. a lot of car progress has been made fueled by the competition in race driving. If there is nothing tangible to pull for progress, like those ideas around supersonic sustainable flight, what would push for progress ?? A bit of a catch 22 there.
@WeBeGood06
@WeBeGood06 Год назад
Oh yes, supersonic aircraft will be much cleaner due to the extreme amount of fuel burned. Airplane Travel in general is very Clean. They wash these Gas Guzzling Wonders regularly, inside and out. Between unloading passengers and loading new passengers, a cleaning crew will generally go thru the cabin picking up trash and wiping up spills. Very Clean. The have nice Air Filter to Clean the air, so everyone has warm clean air to breath. Supersonic Aircraft will be even cleaner, as Matt Ferrell says. Remember, Supersonic Travel uses much more Gas than your normal Gas Guzzling Subsonic Aircraft making such travel more expensive. So, only rich people who can afford to burn all the extra fuel to travel from one spot to another, like to be pampered. First Class Treatment on these Tiny Supersonic Aircraft to keep rich folks happy. Cleaning before the flight, cleaning during Taxi and Takeoff, cleaning during the flight, wiping up the wine spill, the cabin crew will continuously clean. And as a bonus, for flying so fast, due to the extreme energy usage, the entire aircraft will heat up. Burning off everything, making the exterior of the aircraft cleaner than when it took off. Just like putting the aircraft in a bonfire of jet fuel.
@Reth_Hard
@Reth_Hard Год назад
I always wondered if, IN THEORY, we could save on fuel by having intercontinental flights using boosters to get the plane (or spaceplane) on the edge on space? I'm guessing it wouldn't need as much fuel because of less air drag during most of the flight and then using the air-drag for decelerating before landing... I know it would be incredibly expensive to develop such a spaceplane and it would probably need too much maintenance but I'm just curious in theory if it could be more economic on fuel.
@tuqe
@tuqe Год назад
@@Reth_Hard Its a decent line of thinking, the main issue with any other technology is that high bypass turbo fan engines exist. They are so incredibly efficient compared to any other form of propulsion that it just doesnt make sense to explore other options. Also the constraints on size and capacity associated with speed limit the number of passengers you can bring, which in turn increases costs further as you still have to pay for 2 pilots and a minimum of 2-3 air crew, along with all the costs and fees at each end of the journey
@Reth_Hard
@Reth_Hard Год назад
@@tuqe Ah yeah, it makes sense. To be honest when I heard Elon Musk saying his Starship could eventually be used for intercontinental transport I was VERY skeptical. It's just seems so ridiculous unless we believe in fairy tails but I was still wondering if with the right technology we could get very close to this concept.
@neatodd
@neatodd Год назад
0:55 Concorde wasn't developed by BA and Air France but they were the main operators. Concorde was developed and manufactured by Sud Aviation (later Aérospatiale) and the British Aircraft Corporation .
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Год назад
Good call out. Thanks.
@Adrian_Nel
@Adrian_Nel Год назад
Yes.
@davestagner
@davestagner Год назад
I got sonic-boomed once, while doing photography in the desert near Area 51 in Nevada (despite its reputation, it’s really just an experimental aircraft test zone). It was wild… there was an indescribable “CRACK” sound, then the dust from the desert floor rose up about six inches, and then slowly settled back down.
@alexlabs4858
@alexlabs4858 Год назад
Interesting! The only one I’ve ever heard was from the last space shuttle mission coming in for a landing. It shook the whole house!
@serevinvukele8046
@serevinvukele8046 Год назад
Aliens.
@VRtechman
@VRtechman Год назад
Undisclosed Aircraft only fly once a week. You just missed that day. 😏
@FiachnaG
@FiachnaG Год назад
OK Boomer :)
@tayloreverard2039
@tayloreverard2039 Год назад
makes me wonder how any of the small animals live. like are all the mice/rats/voles in the nevada desert dead? have they had to adapt? or is a sonic boom really just an inconvenient vibration that doesn't do much real damage. They way you describe it it sounds like it could stop a rabbits heart.
@marcdefaoite
@marcdefaoite Год назад
I used to work beside London Heathrow airport in the late 80s when Concorde was still taking off from there. If you think sonic boom was a decibel issue then you should have heard the deafening noise these things made when revving up for take-off. It was truly terrifying.
@bwake
@bwake Год назад
How did it compare to military aircraft? Multiple F4 Phantoms are very loud. A couple of ANG Phantoms had me run out of my apartment to see what made the sound.
@krishanmistry6372
@krishanmistry6372 Год назад
I think the most viable market for supersonic flight is trans-pacific. The flight time is a larger part of the flying travel experience for longer flights. Flying transatlantic you spend only half the time actually flying. The inter half is fine spent getting to the airport, getting through security, boarding, then baggage claim and going to destination
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Год назад
The issue is the fuel. Concords didn't have much fuel left when they landed between the UK and New York
@serevinvukele8046
@serevinvukele8046 Год назад
Maybe if the plane picked you up at your house that would be better. Lol.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Год назад
@@mrxmry3264 the concord needed largely full tanks to do that flight with passengers and baggage. It's empty range was around 4500miles though.
@nickcollins1528
@nickcollins1528 Год назад
@@veganpotterthevegan I grew up close to jfk . I remember jumping out of my bed when I was 6 because the whole house was shaking and I thought we were all dead. Hiding under the bed
@magnetospin
@magnetospin Год назад
Planes don't fly over the Pacific ocean. They fly over the north pole, which is a shorter distance.
@asmodai27
@asmodai27 Год назад
Hi. Regarding the usage of SAF in 50% blends, the main reason for this as of now is not sparsity or cost, but the fact current aircraft were not built with SAF in mind. The main problem with running an aircraft on 100% SAF is that it is pretty much pure kerosene, while traditional jet fuel contains other molecules, including aromatic compounds, which helps with leaks in fuel circuit (aromatics will clog minor leaks which may exist in the circuit), lubrication of the engine, and so on. Running systems on 100% SAF is a task the aeronautical industry is already tackling, and should be available on the next generation of aircrafts, supersonic or not, and probably as a retrofit of current aircrafts, once the technology is ready.
@jopo7996
@jopo7996 Год назад
I can't wait to have my luggage lost at a higher speed.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Год назад
😂
@8-7-styx94
@8-7-styx94 Год назад
It's a basic physics problem, you can't get energy from nothing and you need energy to move. The faster you go, the more energy you need. Start switching to solar powered blimps and we'll be able to move slowly but in a more eco friendly manner. There will always be the desire to go fast, but offering alternatives to fast travel that are more green is something I hope we can look forward to. So No, I don't think supersonic is a good idea, sacrifices must be made as we can't violate the laws of physics. There has never and will never be a plane/blimp/boat/train/car/tank/spaceship/whatever human made object that has infinite capacity, infinite speed, and infinite fuel economy. A balance must be struck, you have to give something to get something.
@tonylarose4842
@tonylarose4842 Год назад
You don't even need to get in the air to be energy efficient. Electric rail can go anywhere that has land and wind/nuclear boats could cover any other spot.
@vremster
@vremster Год назад
When you compared Boom's 75 dB level to Concord's 105 dB level, it would have been helpful to remind people the scale is logarithmic. Most think it's linear. That makes the 30 dB difference HUGE.
@jeremyroberts2782
@jeremyroberts2782 Год назад
There is another issue worth noting, Concord's 105dB was real world and Boom's 76dB is imagined or at best aspirational as they don't even have an engine supplier let alone an engine. And the one engine company that has more experience with supersonic passenger flight than any other is no longer working with them.
@NozomiShinobuCrest
@NozomiShinobuCrest Год назад
I remember being in Lancaster when they did a test-flyover of an early X-59 prototype. It's so strange to search for a plane you saw in the sky and see *nothing* online that matches. And that sonic "thump" is no joke! I'd call it more of a "roar" at the point I heard it (like 4+ years ago), but definitely not the sudden impactful boom of a normal supersonic jet.
@jensmandreasen2230
@jensmandreasen2230 Год назад
For trans-Atlantic flight, I'd rather spend the extra money on seats that folds up/down to be sleepable, and then just wake up at the destination with zero recollection of how that happened
@chillaxter13
@chillaxter13 Год назад
Yes! Completely agree. I would rather have more comfortable than faster. Current speeds are just fine. If I'm spending extra, I'd rather spend it on comfort. Extra arm space, lay flat seats and availability for sleep aids (like CPAP) would make all the difference.
@pauleohl
@pauleohl Год назад
@@chillaxter13 Lose the belly (you can keep the beard) and you will be able to lose the CPAP machine.
@jhfdhgvnbjm75
@jhfdhgvnbjm75 Год назад
I don't think supersonic flight will come back. Personal I'd prefer to travel in more comfort even if it's slower than now.
@jojones9194
@jojones9194 Год назад
Dirigibles FTW.😉
@rjtumble
@rjtumble Год назад
I imagine the biggest problem Boom faces is blowing through the money they've received from the various airlines before they get to a point where they can legitimately ask for more (like a working model or something). Hopefully, all the technical challenges you described are just a "nerd harder" kind of problem that will be worked out with some development time.
@tyler3201
@tyler3201 Год назад
I’m going with they will deliver something, but it won’t be good. Their maybe be deaths, but hopefully not. But it’s going to be a debacle and then Boom will get sued out of existence. Don’t ask why I have this opinion. I can’t really say, other than their name is a little ridiculous and cartoony too me, Like Enron.
@TJPDmember
@TJPDmember Год назад
It will just end as an other tunderf00t video. I love this channel (undecided with...) but he seem to be a master at finding overpromising start up scams with their 3D rendering galore.
@randybobandy9828
@randybobandy9828 Год назад
Ya... I'm going with this isn't going anywhere. They Hve way to many outrageous claims.
@somerandomboomer243
@somerandomboomer243 Год назад
they have bigger problems, no manufacturer wants to build them a motor
@sayyamzahid505
@sayyamzahid505 Год назад
I live in Karachi Pakistan I like your comments
@paulmagnuson1021
@paulmagnuson1021 Год назад
I lost a couple of weeks of sixth grade education at the beginning of 1973. It was all because the slightest rumble in the distance had the whole school jostling at the classroom windows to catch a glimpse of Concorde during its 'Hot and High' trials in Johannesburg. It left an impression that only one other aeroplane has been able to match (another story). As much as I'd love to see it, or something like it, flying again, I'm not convinced that it makes economic sense in a world where video conferencing reduces the need for such high-speed business travel.
@briangman3
@briangman3 Год назад
Boom will go bankrupt if one accident happens, I am sure all the airlines have a refund clause for that
@dougashton
@dougashton Год назад
It’s so hard because I love this sort of tech so much. But we really do need to be concentrating on the main problem (overall co2) first. Supersonic is a luxury we can live without. Maybe some of the SAF spin-offs will make it worth it and we just quietly drop the supersonic bit.
@randybobandy9828
@randybobandy9828 Год назад
Not everyone and every company needs to focus on co2 reduction.
@theodoremiller1951
@theodoremiller1951 Год назад
I remember sitting 727s at Dulles when the Concord took off. It shook the planes and was extremely loud, but that was ampressive site watching that beautiful bird take off.
@pathfinderGM
@pathfinderGM Год назад
I think this technology is very interesting but also reliant on other technology as well such as the net zero fuel. Personally I want to focus on upscalling our rail systems and integrating trucking with it to remove most if not all long haul trucking. I'd make a tiered system with intercontinental hubs with mostly empty railways for long travel and dense cargo shipping. From the hubs there are separate interstate systems that serve 6-12 states from big hubs. These may have a few stops along the route instead of the international nonstop routes. And lastly a local system from the tier 2 hubs to their areas with many rail to truck areas that cover 1 day travel from each spot. By focusing on logistics it can help stabilize economy and make it more sturdy when something bad happens. Plus this would help remove heavy loads off the road which will allow roads to last longer and make investing in them make much more sense. Second plus, this could easily help push people to live in cities, in multifamily homes which is crucial for not only managing resources but to make cities more dense financially as well to keep cities in the green on their spending.
@ShawnDickens
@ShawnDickens Год назад
I like this view. I have thought for a while now how EV can help the future, but better traffic management could help all cars now and zero has been spent to do the now. Also, if these zero fuels come out then EV may not be the answer anyways.
@jaxolotle
@jaxolotle Год назад
yeah using trains is the most efficient, tested, and sustainable way to fix airplane emissions. Also why the hell is nobody using Hydrogen! You're already consuming renewable electricity with electrolysis!!
@f87115
@f87115 Год назад
You lost me at personally
@andrewmullen4003
@andrewmullen4003 Год назад
@@jaxolotle because hydrogen is inefficient, simples
@SaveMoneySavethePlanet
@SaveMoneySavethePlanet Год назад
I feel like the usage will be too niche for economies of scale to be reached so it won’t deliver on the “inexpensive” promise. For any trip which is connected by land: high speed rail will require less energy simply because they don’t have to waste energy on defying gravity. So it’ll definitely be less expensive. Normal flights will be less expensive per mile just due to lower fuel use so citizens will likely still take normal flights for any trip 8 hours or less just because it’s not inconvenient. So that leaves only 8+ hour long flights for this to replace. Which simply isn’t that common of a flight length.
@ebubeawachie
@ebubeawachie Год назад
Well done video. This is one of my absolute favourite channels on RU-vid.
@alexduncan9941
@alexduncan9941 Год назад
I like to think that I spotted every pun you squeezed into your narration, and I loved every single one of them.
@shellstud34
@shellstud34 Год назад
Walking away from rolls-royce I think is a bad thing for boom, engine development is key and not many companies have that knowledge to design them an engine that will meet their criteria
@dannyarcher6370
@dannyarcher6370 Год назад
RR walked away from Boom.
@vicentiumunteanu2385
@vicentiumunteanu2385 Год назад
If no engine, then no aircraft
@dakota4766
@dakota4766 Год назад
faster cheaper and cleaner... sounds to good to be true.
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse Год назад
The biggest problem facing Boom is not having an engine supplier. It's going to be awfully difficult to build a supersonic plane without engines, the type of fuel will be a secondary factor.
@michaelkelley6158
@michaelkelley6158 Год назад
I really appreciate your objective review of all of the topics you cover. You give great information that is not biased. I know you give your opinion on items as well, which is great. To answer your question on if supersonic flight and cleaner fuels are the answer, the cleaner fuels are certainly a good step in the right direction. I would not say supersonic flight is the best for a greener world, however, I am would think supersonic jets will prove to be valuable in many ways for humanity. Becoming greener certainly requires many pieces to the puzzle. Thank you for reviewing so many of the options.
@Voltaic_Fire
@Voltaic_Fire Год назад
I would absolutely love for supersonic public flights to come back, as long as they are not obnoxious to the people on the ground, as I absolutely hate flying so getting there as quickly as possible is vital.
@alisavas9526
@alisavas9526 Год назад
Great episode. In hindsight, for many reasons too much to list here, Concorde should have never flown. It was pride and prejudice what made it take off and kept it in the air for so long. Aviation industry will progress for sure, in line with technological advancements and hopefully it will continue to get cleaner, quieter, safer and cheaper but maybe not necessarily faster. Knowing the human nature tough, it may also go very likely to the opposite direction again.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@Jacob-W-5570
@Jacob-W-5570 Год назад
We should not think London-new york, but london-sydney for the route where Supersonic speeds really make a difference! I don't mind the 6h flight to the states, but the 26h to reach down under is a pain.
@DrJohnnyJ
@DrJohnnyJ Год назад
My problem is just as much the hour to the airport, the three hours in the airport and the hour waiting for luggage at the end as the flight itself. Give me six inches more legroom and no waiting at either end and I will b happy.
@PerroTrotavidas
@PerroTrotavidas Год назад
The waiting at the airport is mostly due to safety concerns and airlanes logistics, not airplanes themselves. The legroom can already be adressed, you would need to pay more for it tho.
@FuncleChuck
@FuncleChuck Год назад
Why are you waiting that long at the airport? Delays? I don’t have that problem at Indianapolis airport. Takes me 20 minutes to get to a gate from my car. Including security and checking a bag. What craptastic airport do you use? Now, a single fucking transit line in the city would be nice too…
@dir7y
@dir7y Год назад
While listening to this, i realized that you sound like exactly Kasey Kasem doing the American Top 40 doing a side story about a band but your doing Science.
@dn275
@dn275 Год назад
I think the only viable option for net zero flights is electric planes. SAFs are going to compete with food production and require more land. Supersonic flights are cool, but don’t solve any sustainability problems. The only thing supersonic flights solve is flight time. I’m not saying we can’t have them though. Emissions caused by supersonic flights will probably be small in comparison to subsonic flights due to demand. But hey I might be wrong and supersonic flights might cost $100 a ticket one day lol
@ackthbbft
@ackthbbft Год назад
Many years ago, I read an article in Popular Science (I think?) about new supersonic jet designs, one of which was an "oblique flying wing" design, which would fly "straight" at subsonic speeds, but then the angle of the engines would pivot and it would fly at an oblique angle at supersonic speeds (presumably to accommodate for the mach cone). It was really intriguing.
@michaelashby9654
@michaelashby9654 Год назад
I'm glad to hear you bring up de-forestation. This is so often overlooked when biofuels are mentioned. Also biofuels require tons of fossil fuels to power tractors, trucks, fertilizer, pesticides, herbicides, etc. Living simple is the best bet to save the environment.
@bzuidgeest
@bzuidgeest Год назад
Not simple living, sustainable living. There is a large difference. The Amish live simple. We can live sustainable.
@romaricregnaud8662
@romaricregnaud8662 Год назад
Do you think you could cover the potential of ammonia in aviation tech? I have read that aviation H2 is supposed to fly a Dassault Falcon on ammonia mid-2023. Ammonia production is still dirty but there are tons of research about the production of green ammonia around, I think it would be a great subject!
@balazslengyel6950
@balazslengyel6950 Год назад
Other sources state that Rolls-Royce walked away from Boom, not the other way round. Aviation forums agree, that developing a new supersonic engine for a small number of planes would not be economic for any engine manufacturer. Safran, GE also stated they are not interested. P&W stated it has other projects to work on. It seems that Boom has no engines available thus it might be dead.
@GuardsmanBass
@GuardsmanBass Год назад
The engine has always been the achilles heel there. Boom doesn't have the money to do a clean sheet civilian supersonic engine, and the supersonic engines that do exist are all military ones that don't do too well on range or efficiency. I don't blame Rolls Royce or others for not wanting to put money into something that is unlikely to pan out, and will probably lose in competition to business class aboard subsonic jets anyways.
@eclecticcyclist
@eclecticcyclist Год назад
Supersonic flight generates a lot of heat and carbon fibre has a limited working temperture range, I would imagine that the use of carbon fibre will be limited. Concorde was barely economic even with expensive business class tickets. These days most of business is done over the internet.. I doubt that supersonic flight will ever become feasible again.
@sebastianucero7535
@sebastianucero7535 Год назад
I love your videos Matt. Great Job Some things are obviously just "wishful thinking", other borderline fraud. The SAFs sound "too good" to be true. And the comercial scale that made obsolete the Concord, is more marked today. Thank you for this great video.
@Hoigwai
@Hoigwai Год назад
A fun thing I can say is that I have actually been on the Concorde and in the cockpit. It was an amazing moment when I was young. It wasn't flying but was diverted away from JFK to the Atlantic City Airport.
@IAmTheAce5
@IAmTheAce5 Год назад
It wasn't just the sonic booms and the pollution- where economy of scale is concerned, going supersonic is far less fuel efficient than cruising at just subsonic- take any airframe and measure it's lift/drag ratio multiplied by thrust required vs Mach number, and there's a peak at around Mach 0.8, then a great dip after Mach 1.0; it'll increase back up again somewhat with increased Mach until it dips again, never recovering its subsonic efficiency
@MasterBlaster3545
@MasterBlaster3545 Год назад
Used to love watching concord flying over us in Eltham back in the 80’s. One loud muvva though.
@Pethers
@Pethers Год назад
Seems most likely that supersonic flight will be exclusive to the richest few due to the likely carbon charge premium. There is no motivation for airlines to make this service anything other than premium and exclusive.
@Earth-To-Zan
@Earth-To-Zan Год назад
I always love these kinds of videos, they are educational.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Год назад
Glad you liked it.
@sarahtonin8144
@sarahtonin8144 Год назад
Hard to tell if this is the right platform for this. But ill try anyways as this is still considered business. Given the present conditions, is it better to invest into Real Estates or into Stocks? Which would yield better output.
@danromero533
@danromero533 Год назад
Has got to be Stocks but of course, you have to be well informed on the right ones or better still, get a pro to handle it for you (that way, you save time and minimise risks). Made my first million this way earlier this year. One more thing, one can wake you up by 2am to complain about a leaking pipe, the other can't.
@kathyfrugalsen3047
@kathyfrugalsen3047 Год назад
Very sound advise! I have been into both for long and though I won't say I have lost a fortune, I have squandered quite alot... If it's not a problem, do you mind recommending the pro you worked with? I could definitely use the help of one right now... I look forward to your reply...
@chrisjohn7823
@chrisjohn7823 Год назад
Why not both??? diversify!!!
@danromero533
@danromero533 Год назад
@@kathyfrugalsen3047 Funny enough, I can honestly relate. It's not as easy as it may sound and takes some level of decisiveness and discipline. I don't know if I am permitted to drop it here, but his name is "Claire Anne Steinglass". Was in the news a lot in 2018. You may look her up online for more details.
@steceymorgan814
@steceymorgan814 Год назад
wow I know this woman. Once attended a fundraiser she was also in attendance in Vancouver, Great speaker with a funny accent,, She's American though I doubt she works with foreigners.
@Sailorman6996
@Sailorman6996 Год назад
Just the 9 to 1 ratio of energy use alone for just going twice as fast as current airliner is reason enough to let it stay on the drawing board.
@AC-im4hi
@AC-im4hi Год назад
As long as it doesn't cost nine times as much I think a lot of people would still go for it.
@benfulford3943
@benfulford3943 Год назад
There are some people that say the reason concorde was banned from flying supersonic over America was more to do with politics than anything. America was unhappy that the only supersonic passenger aircraft was European and not American. They attempted to put all sorts of blocks in place and even attempted to ban it all together
@tHebUm18
@tHebUm18 Год назад
Most topics covered here sound plausible and exciting to live up to some ambitious goals. This one sounds hopelessly ambitious.
@veggieboyultimate
@veggieboyultimate Год назад
So one of the main challenges for future supersonic planes is to find fuel that is sustainable.
@nickcollins1528
@nickcollins1528 Год назад
I feared for my life when I was kid whenever I heard a Concorde. Usually Saturday morning right before you would wake up. And the house would shake
@ioresult
@ioresult Год назад
13:00 "yet the Concorde debacle is still too vivid in our minds". That brings back to mind the Hindenberg. 85 years and we still haven't brought back lighter than air travel. How long until supersonic flight is back? That's a depressing thought.
@deltacx1059
@deltacx1059 Год назад
I'm just going to say these people whining about supersonic aircraft using 9x more fuel need to be quiet and wait, the point of a entirely new aircraft is to address these issues. the tools/Materials we have now are way better than those we had when making the concord, at those speeds every little bit of optimization helps a lot.
@robertstout7756
@robertstout7756 Год назад
This is off subject I hope that’s OK Hi Matt Very much enjoy your channel. I was just watching your interview on Fully Charged, a long time favorite of mine. It reminded me of your current project building a zero energy home. As a engineer architect and builder plus being an old fart I have a lot of experience in a low carbon lifestyle. In particular I like your Interest in CO2 as an energy transfer/storage medium. A few years ago I installed a Sandon CO2 heat pump hot water heater in our home. We’ve been generating as much or more electricity than we use for 22 years so an electric water heater with a COP 3 to 4 times higher than resistance heat makes sense if you can afford it’s upfront cost, but it will take a very long time to pay for itself. In new solar houses I design I’m using tiny electric tankless water heaters right under the sink or close to where it’s being used. This not only minimizes waste in the pipe but it also provides instant hot water. In high mineral water locations they do need a vinegar rinse once a year. We’ve just increased our PV system in anticipation of getting a second electric car and with the recent reduction in PV cost it makes sense to add a little cost to the solar and save cost in a heat pump electric hot water heater. WhatsApp if you’d like to chat sometime. ‪+1 (575) 770‑0769‬
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street Год назад
Thank you for a very interesting and balanced video on the possible future of passenger supersonic flight. Imo, the most cool thing here is the aviation fuel from Prometheus. But it sounds like that is still very hypothetical at this point.
@MatyasLemberTutorials
@MatyasLemberTutorials Год назад
Great video! This is topic very close to my heart. Those claims sounds very very ambitious and also if those were achieved then normal subsonic flights can become much more economical too. It is good that they pushing the current technology and boundaries but I just doubt that this will happen in the near future. The issue with the engine manufacturer, the other issue with the sonic booms... they will face the same issues as the concorde. For example: BA and AF also had to park another concorde sometimes just to ensure there is a replacement if something happens. I am a bit negative on this one I guess :) Thanks for the video though! Very good summary of the situ
@chrispetersen4639
@chrispetersen4639 Год назад
Given today's technological possibilities (Facetime etc) there's absolutely zero reason to have supersonic passenger flights, the less noise and less waste of materials we can accomplish, the better!
@iglapsu88
@iglapsu88 Год назад
Let's just all work on a better more comfortable conventional air flight.
@tavern.keeper
@tavern.keeper Год назад
Turning water and co2 back into o2 and hydrocarbons is a pipe dream. Without an aggressive carbon tax or some major breakthrough in cheap, reliable green energy it will never be cost effective to climb that thermodynamic mountain.
@jayreiter268
@jayreiter268 8 месяцев назад
The cleanest tailpipes I ever saw were on aircraft that flew flights to Vietnam. The military refueled them with JP4 instead of JETA.
@ronm6585
@ronm6585 Год назад
Thank you. 👍🏻
@GaryBickford
@GaryBickford Год назад
I've worked with a company Resynth International, that has patents for making clean fuels (diesel, kerosene, etc.) out of waste plastics and used tires. The process is done in "micro-scale" plants that cost under $50 million, and can process all the tires and plastics from a small city, producing fuels for less than the wholesale price to distributors. It's been difficult getting investors to complete construction of the pilot plant in Puerto Rico.
@bellofbelmont
@bellofbelmont Год назад
Thanks. Jim Bell (Australia)
@animefreak5757
@animefreak5757 Год назад
This is why i think we should invest in trains more. Both high speed and normal. Planes and long haul trucking face similar issues going electric, but most trains are already electric and would be much easier to move over from on board diesel generators to overhead lines or energized tracks. They are also more efficient than trucks or planes. If we had high speed rail, a lot of the shorter flights wouldn't be necessary at all, and freight trains can pick up the load from long haul trucking, with shorter range electric trucks being much more feasible. Trains would never fully replace planes of course, but it would go a long way towards it.
@LoveToMix
@LoveToMix Год назад
Great video
@jeremybarber2837
@jeremybarber2837 Год назад
That is a great looking plane, though I'm not ready for supersonic flight with those trade offs.
@dgdsger
@dgdsger Год назад
"Claims up in the air". Matt sums it up.
@jamesbailey9512
@jamesbailey9512 Год назад
Small point but it really grated, it isn't "The Concorde", it is simply "Concorde".
@ahather
@ahather Год назад
I wonder if fully electric hydrogen fuel cell plains would be better, or even just accepted that we should fly less, bit of both
@TheYuxiaodi
@TheYuxiaodi Год назад
I would be happy just to see modest incremental improvements. I do not care for travel time, that time can easilly be spent working or socializing (you are in a plane with hundreds of others after all). Ecology (and by extension, economy) is the most important aspect and without a doubt the one thing that needs improving above all else.
@AnimilesYT
@AnimilesYT Год назад
I see this project as something similar to how F1 and FE help improve cars. Even if this project fails, there will still be a lot of knowledge gained that can be used in other branches of the aviation industry.
@danharold3087
@danharold3087 Год назад
Unless some company has offered to build the engines Boom has fizzled.
@cbrbird
@cbrbird Год назад
Just a note that Concorde was a development of BAC and Aerospatiale. British Airways and Air France were the sole customers. Such a gorgeous aircraft. I doubt that any of the existent engine manufacturers will be willing to risk significant investment on one of the new SST projects...
@cyberl0k2000
@cyberl0k2000 Год назад
I was around when concord did thier thing. I was born on the small island of Guam and totally think super sonic is a great market for LONG distance travel. My average flight structure to get home from the midwest costs way north of 3k us dallors and takes on average a whole day. Now if I could cut those 8 to 10hr spans to even half it would be worth it. So instead of 26 to 18 hours drops to 20 to 10 hours. Of course I am including the usual wait time between flights and specific routes. So a hop to Japan then Guam is much faster the best time ever I got was 18 hours. Now the LAX to Hawaii then Guam is SO much longer and with current work economics leaves me with less time to be with family. So even at 3x the costs you are talking about I would be probably bounce to Detroit using standard then hop sonic to Japan then hopefully Guam. Concord landed many times on my island and it is built with long runs.
@lyledal
@lyledal Год назад
Sounds cool. Also sounds like it's all based on a lot of magical thinking. I guess we'll see.
@drillerdev4624
@drillerdev4624 Год назад
Matt promoting his engineer clone. After seeing the video, I have to say that, as an average Joe, I know supersonic flight won't probably impact my life at all, but the fuel part was pretty interesting. It'd be nice for it to be a recurring (yearly?) topic, showing the progress achieved. And I'm specially curious about the CO2 capture part. How easy it'd be to implement in existing industry? Maybe even enforcing it.
@hannesvdvreken
@hannesvdvreken Год назад
"the fuel's net zero claims are up in the air" i see what you did there
@DouglasJMark
@DouglasJMark Год назад
Great video Matt. I am sitting in the skeptic side of the fence unfortunately. I wonder if planes could fly on liquid methane? Much cleaner and should easier to make and sustain.
@Anonymous-it5jw
@Anonymous-it5jw Год назад
Decades ago, ultra-fast devices used to fly over our rural area when we were kids; it was quite entertaining when the skies were clear of clouds. Those devices could make right angle turns on a dime w/o slowing down, and were never caught by the A.F. planes chasing it. More importantly, those unusual-looking, ultra-fast flying devices never caused a single sonic boom that we heard. If I think about, and I don't have a perfect memory, I can't remember a single report or story about unusual, ultra-fast flying devices ever mentioning sonic booms being associated with or caused by those devices. Since the government says all of those objects, reported from all over the USA, were just weather balloons, then the science behind those balloons must hold the secrets of creating low-cost, efficient ultra-fast flying devices which don't produce sonic booms. Wow! Think about our tax dollars having been secretly at work for the good of society for years - who could have imagined such a thing?
@jpitt916
@jpitt916 Год назад
I hope at least some of these aircraft make it to production! As well as be more affordable than the Concorde.
@0dyss3us51
@0dyss3us51 Год назад
Would love to see you do a video on carbon capture through alge farming maybe do a viewer challenge to build a setup and share it on the chann. Wow interesting! Aviation is one of those areas that could do with some serious innovation when it comes to safety, going more green and curting down on travel times and all of it is possible.
@adammenhennett
@adammenhennett Год назад
I would like to see air travel go the opposite direction and slow down a lot - with the reintroduction of massive dirigibles. I am sure we could develop it to be good for the planet, quiet, clean, spacious and comfortable. Like long haul trains, having a cabin to yourself, being able to go to the dining room, the viewing platform, the games room - it wouldn't matter that the trip took a few days. We could learn to appreciate the journey, not just be hyperfixated on the destination all the time.
@pottyputter05
@pottyputter05 Год назад
Boeing started a revolution in air travel with the 787 and if boom can do this on the back of the dreamliner it'll make for a more drastic change than we imagined
@JSDudeca
@JSDudeca Год назад
I thought that Rolls Royce left the Boom project, not the other way around?
@zombiesue1054
@zombiesue1054 Год назад
Gonna give them a gold medal for all the financial gymnastics they're gonna need in order to build a plane from carbon fiber for half the price of current planes...
@mrbizi5652
@mrbizi5652 Год назад
This is why you have over 1M subscribers! Boom!
@aaax9410
@aaax9410 Год назад
Elegant looking aircraft
@SanctumStudio407
@SanctumStudio407 Год назад
Audio engineer here. 75db is very loud. I already have to pause whatever I am watching or listening to or stop talking whenever a plane or helicopter flies by my house. That's gotten as loud as just slightly over 65db+.
@robf6389
@robf6389 Год назад
G'day Matt, better engines and cleaner fuels, yes! Supersonic aircraft in the near to mid-term, no! Long-term supersonic aircraft 🤔!
@RuneRelic
@RuneRelic Год назад
I'd like to see how an active acoustic resonant nose cone could interfere with and disrupt the sonic boom. Especialy with active ion streams. Energy/fuel/storage, material tech, scientific evolution and AI design, all allow a massive efficiency improvement that was problematic at the time of concorde. It would no doubt potentially be a 'much better' product than concode. Whether being 'much better' would ever meet the ever moving goal posts of modern demands/standards/requirements, is another point well argued. I guess that is why it is called the cutting edge of science.
@bwake
@bwake Год назад
I never thought that the economics of the net zero carbon fuel were plausible. I also thought that the company knew they had no control over how their customers fuel their planes. I was fine with that.
@rickfarwell4110
@rickfarwell4110 Год назад
Sub-orbital hypersonic will be the way to go, given developments by Space X, will be the way forward, anywhere in one hour or less, and sonic booms only in small areas (landing zones). Say in 25 years. Most people will still only need to travel subsonic though.
@jeffreywickens3379
@jeffreywickens3379 Год назад
When I was a little kid, growing up in Northern California, I would hear an occasional sonic boom, and it never bothered me. I don't know what the big deal is.
@mattofsmegpoop3027
@mattofsmegpoop3027 Год назад
I did a startup for a college class about making sustainable fuels out of nitrogen runoff in the Mississippi River.
@ethandolph4688
@ethandolph4688 Год назад
Seems like a cool and intriguing distraction from real travel solutions. High speed passenger rail replacing flights over land can reduce total travel time with airport waits included and bring emissions and prices way way down. For cross ocean flight I think it's best we stick to the far more efficient 500-600 mph range and work on lower impact Hydrogen fuel. Electric flights might be good for cleaner island hopping where rail isn't possible, but for domestic flights they're totally impractical and still have a worse environment impact than rail.
@jonathanw11
@jonathanw11 Год назад
Boom is nothing more than vaporware, and the fact RR is refusing to have anything further to do with them speaks volumes to this.
@briangman3
@briangman3 Год назад
Going faster take more gas, how will it be cheaper? Lower flight crew costs? Then they are adding this new gas stuff? Something doesn’t add up ?
@makesaveinccomm
@makesaveinccomm Год назад
I love the idea capture bad air n make it into fuse. But can they make kt fast enough for the airplain to use...
@wzDH106
@wzDH106 Год назад
The engine development, or lack of with the RR rollback, will ultimately sink this push. I see similarities with the L1011 program in this, without the competition. But catering to such a niche market, the lack of any competitive heat will be moot.
@ZacharySchulz
@ZacharySchulz Год назад
I think the issue now is they can't get anyone to produce their engines as manufacturers aren't sure it's viable.
@WeBeGood06
@WeBeGood06 Год назад
Airplanes Travel in general is very Clean. They wash these Gas Guzzling Wonders regularly, inside and out. Between unloading passengers and loading new passengers, a cleaning crew will generally go thru the cabin picking up trash and wiping up spills. Very Clean. The have nice Air Filter to Clean the air, so everyone has warm clean air to breath. Supersonic Aircraft will be even cleaner, as Matt Ferrell says. Remember, Supersonic Travel uses much more Gas than your normal Gas Guzzling Subsonic Aircraft making such travel more expensive. So, only rich people who can afford to burn all the extra fuel to travel from one spot to another, like to be pampered. First Class Treatment on these Tiny Supersonic Aircraft to keep rich folks happy. Cleaning before the flight, cleaning during Taxi and Takeoff, cleaning during the flight, wiping up the wine spill, the cabin crew will continuously clean. And as a bonus, for flying so fast, due to the extreme energy usage, the entire aircraft will heat up. Burning off everything, making the exterior of the aircraft cleaner than when it took off. Just like putting the aircraft in a bonfire of jet fuel. Everybody like to travel in a clean jet.
@vawlkus
@vawlkus Год назад
Another youtuber, Mentor Pilot did a bit more in depth on the demise of the Concord, as it's one of his favorite plane designs.
@borisborcic
@borisborcic Год назад
No. I believe the future of _clean_ air travel is pretty much summarized by the French pun "nous avions des avions" (we had planes).
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