Quality stuff, easy to follow and good to listen to. Really helpful for players trying to learn about deeper stuff for Renekton. I wish there was more guides like this for new players.
Enjoyed the video. Really in depth as you said, and I did learn a thing or two from it. Hopefully you'll be bringing out more content like this. Keep it up! Still heartbroken that you didn't ask me for any voicing :(
Great video! Very reminiscent of Parnelleyx's amazing Warwick guide, thanks very much for the content. I've been running RTO's Goredrinker-Conqueror build for a while but will definitely try this build/playstyle out!
FuKINTASTIC , gj man great guide and new way i liked the damage test section thats made me know alot more about items and help make choice , this channel is underrated
I appreciate that, but believe it or not a lot of things bothered me with this video and I might have needed some more days on it. Like while it is my first video in forever, I know I can do much better than this and its why I'm a little disappointed most people got to see this over other stuff, but I guess if I took any longer I probably wouldn't have released it. But yeah, I got a lot of good feedback about this video, to which I agree with everyone with most of the main problems, so next video is going to be a huge step up compared to this.
I'm more used to a semi tanky conq sustain build on Renekton, so transitioning into what I guess you would call a carry build has been difficult. But your video has helped me out a lot with itemization. Thank you.
Hello ! I really LOVE your content :) Just finded your youtube and man you litteraly did the best guide I have ever seen ! I love theorycrafting and testing damage/items in the test mod too :D I really doesnt like Conqueror over PTA and from what i've tested lvl 6 no items PTA deal more, and lvl 18 with 4 items and boots (same) deal 1 damage more but only if you had full stacked it. 167 damage aa with conq and 166 with PTA against a dummy with 150 armor. I really feel that my late game is just to one shot the carry as you said, having a bit more dmg over everyone or heal doesnt change anything due to Renekton kit... And in lane I feel that conqueror make we so weaaak compare to when I play PTA... Definitively I think conqueror is more to teamfight, like goredrinker is ... As I tested dmg diff beetwin conq and PTA here are my results : 88 dmg aa with conqueror full stacky while 97 when PTA is active on lvl 6 without any items. So Conqueror feel just less good overall for me, maybe better in a situation that you stacked it and can do for example a 2v1 or teamfighting, but most of games I get kited and/or one shot... Definitively prefer PTA ! Another question, what do you think about the future changes (nerf) of prowler claw and goredrinker ?
Hey thanks a lot of the comment :D I agree with you 100% PTA is always going to be doing more for Renekton's kit, compared to Conqueror he just doesn't abuse it as well as other champions and you don't often want to do extended trades because most match ups outdamage you in the extended fights unless you have certain items. And Renekton abuses PTA super well, in fact probably one of the best champions in the game to do it, with how fast you can proc PTA and pull combos off. As for the changes, I think Prowler's claw nerf literally doesn't do anything. The base damage is something you actually don't care about anyways, you care about the amp damage, short cd dash and overall stats it provides you than the base damage. Goredrinker nerfs kind of destroy his current bruiser style in being able to drain tank but you can still make it work to an extent, but that healing reduction going to make it even more impossible for Renekton to full heal or anyone for that matter like before.
@@Godrekton Hey ! Thanks for repling :) A little feedback from what i've tested with the prowler claw ! I love the item and I tried the build you mentionned and it's amazing for duel and one shoting late game powerspike ! In season 11 I feel like I got one shot anyways with all the damage so it's really more punitive with prowler but as you can litteraly turn someone so fast it's legit that you need to play with care ! I love this risky playstyle. I am just missing a offensive RM item atm as my hp is really low, expecialy when im facing mordekaiser or Kayle in mid-late game. Morde damage is insane while he can stack armor really fast and you are still 50 rm even lvl 18... Maw is definitively not good as before due to her change (where is the sustain on the shield riot ??) And I do like wit end with the old 'phage' proc but I feel the item is not that strong (not bad too but cost a lot for what it provide I think) and could be better with some buffs.. I dont really like all defensive rm items, the only defensive item I like as renekton is the dead man plate as it give proc damage to more burst and of course the insane movespeed !
@@jorne6863 I thought more about that recently myself, personally I tried getting a Sterak's gage for a little more survivalbility in some games and I have to say I really like it. Really nice stats, plus it even allows you to be even more riskier with the shield insurance. Wit's End is kinda meh, but I liked what they tried doing with it this season, although I think even abyssal mask is super good, it applies even more % damage in your kit and I think the damage diff to an actual damage item isn't even that much different if you initiate with W then full combo with the rest of your abilties. Also no problem! I reply whenever I can to my viewers, hoping there's anything I can help or suggest :D
Nah, there's this one guy called 3in1Warrior. He's a fucking beast at Renekton and just top lane in general, heard he is trying to make the pro ranks too so he can make NA great. I'd look out for him :D
Found ya via reddit. Amazing video, will defo try prawlers out. Im d3 in euw and I legit started playing rene like 1/2 days ago with elcipse and it felt really good. I go eclipse into bruiser which makes me unkillable but i'll try prowler and let you know how it went
I’ll definitely check this build out! Rn I’m using rto’s healing build which I gotta admit is a lot of fun! Still love to try new things, can’t wait to use it😄!
I started playing Renekton yesterday and my 3rd Renekton match was a custom one against a smurf using Vayne. They got obliterated! Gonna try out the Prowler Claw Renekton for sure!
This guide, together with the mechanics one is incredible, I cannot imagine how many hours in the training you had to spend for this insane amount of info. I didn't know someone else than RTO is making such a good content based on Renekton but with a completely different point of view about the build, let me ask you something. I feel since Shojin been removed, Renek its been quite bad compared with other top laners with 1v9 potential such as fiora, irelia etc. As a simple Gold player I had to stop play Renek back then in ranked games because I just couldn't climb elo even beyond Silver, that happened to me always because Renek falls off a lot, if not the most in late game and even in mid game too if you don't have a big lead, however people keeps building him as offtank and honestly, I like that much more than play on assasin way, I just don't like assasins and Renek shouldn't be an assasin, but looks like the only way to make him works and carry the games.... In low elo, doesn't really matter if you win your lane, your team just don't do what they suppose to do even if 3 people come to your lane to stop you so, you have to carry everything by yourself and even if I feel Renek quite stronger in s11 than s10 with Goredrinker (the item is just OP btw) together with R.Hydra wich gives you an insane healing and survivability, feels still not enough. Just playing my other champs like Morde or Urgot I get much more reward with less efforce and this feels really bad because I like more Renek over all the other champs but I cannot make him work... Anyway, thanks a lot for your guides, I discovered your channel today. i'll be here for a while :)
Hello, thank you very much for your comment! I really value my audience, so I do what I can to try my best in being able to satisfy everyone that watches my videos. I'm a person that's more of an overseer, I want to cater to as much content as I can with 100% attention just so I can make the best videos and not leave things out like many other content creators do, which is a big pet peeve of mine. With that being said, I personally never liked Shojin, I think Shojin was honestly very bad and unhealthy for the game in many ways. It took away from what made Renekton fun in the forms of skill expression, it also didn't address the actual issues he was having in the meta, which pretty much shoe horned a lot of people into building it. I never really built it much personally, I sticked to my own style and had my success, I know so much about the assassin full ad playstyle at this point that it really is a lot harder for me to totally jump onto the band wagon of other things. Not that I can't accept other stuff, but I just think once you go full ad and you have put many years as I have with learning Renekton in and out, it becomes almost natural and I feel like I can do so much more but of course as players we have our own strengths, weaknesses and viewpoints of the game, to where some things work for X group of people, while other thiing things work for Y group of people. I love Renekton with how you can play him personally, there's so many different ways you can play this champion, which all can showcase many forms of skill expression and potential for each playstyle. I personally disagree with your viewpoint that Renekton falls off, but perhaps in previous seasons of building like a brusier I probably can agree. You see, Full AD Renekton never really falls off, or at least having certain items like Bork, Cleaver, Mythic, Serylda's or last season just having Bork and Cleaver was enough, then you can talior whatever you want for the game sake. But I think many people have always stereotyped Renekton in a way that he just falls off, but with the development of new mechanics and combos being discovered by myself and many other noteable Renekton players, I think in the right hands you can almost certainly avoid this condition and get more out of your champion. But as I hinted, Renekton doesn't really fall off even with these new bruiser items. People like RTO have kind of found the build you want to be doing if you're competant on the champion and want to go bruiser. Ghost with Goredrinker > Sterak's > Cleaver is super nice for that, I think throwing bork first personally would make it better into most bruiser and tank match ups early, but seems like no one is doing that, I think most people sleep on bork. Sure Renekton isn't as easy to pilot, like there's many champions in the game that can do more with less effort, but me personally I just enjoy him to challenge myself vs these things and use it as my motivation and enjoyment in wanting to play the game more. Maybe, you should try and work on your fundementals more and maybe you just start picking up things to help you play Renekton better. In low elo, most people are very weak on their fundementals, mindset, match ups and many more, so try and figure out what you might be doing wrong in comparison to other people, like Dominsum replay is a good channel and they have their own champion catered ones, so you can watch Renekton gameplay. You get more of an idea how to play into things then, when you watch better players play it and it can also maybe open your eyes to other playstyles and etc. You can escape, but maybe just something more is prohibitting you than Renekton itself, as you can climb with any champion in the game as long as you're knowledgable enough about the champion, but most importantly yourself in what you can accomplish as well as your strengths and weaknesses. Good luck with things, hope my channel can help you and many others in the future too!
@@Godrekton First of all thanks so much for your answer, I really aprecciate you took your time to explain me all this. I will definitely try a full ad Renek, however I still like more the combination of goredrinker + r.hydra wich is what RTO uses, I've been he's fan since years ago! and I really like the lifesteal builds with a lot of survivability (omnivamp now) but I didn't know about other excellent players such as Romanium, Trollnekton or you using him as full ad, I realize you guys exist yesterday so I'll be open minded but will be hard for me to accept full ad Renek is better. About the falling of Renek, I believe he doesn't falls that hard as full ad but as his common build as offtanks it does, and does it a lot, I can even see on RTO games, when he doesn't stomp his lanes how much he struggles to carry the games, even if he's a god with Renek. One more thing, as full ad, PTA makes more sense, but in a build like RTO uses (goredrinker, r.hydra, sterak, black cleaver...), considering how much time you can be alive in a teamfight and the omnivamp you have, don't you think Conq is better? And that's all, thanks again for your good content and your words, you really deserve more attention as a content creater, good luck mate! Edit: One thing I forgot to mention, another main reason I couldn't climb elo is playing in top lane and that makes me think to swap to mid lane because as soon as I swaped to jungle last season I reached Gold quite quick compared with all my games in top lane, no matter the champion.
Could be okay, I didn't test it enough but I think that's more of gimmick item than something I'd seriously consider, like it just doesn't do much better than Prowler or the other alternatives. Appreciate the message nevertheless, glad I can help in some kind of way.
Is getting a tiamat in between items a good idea? Since you're not building goredrinker yet you still can opt out for a hydra last item having that wave clear and being able to cancel it in combos seems worth it to me.
@@Godrekton I see, one thing I totally forgot about is that tiamat and both hydras lost their active so you can't auto cancel with them anymore. I had a long break from league, before the item rework so I forgot that they got changed. That makes my point senseless in some way, still I understand that someone regardless might not like the items.
Awesome video man, but i have question how do you play renekton in teamfights, i find myself destroying early game with rene, but when it comes to the teamfight i feel like i dont do enough, i try to engage, or stun someone who comes for my carry but idk, can you help me please, im d3 EUW player
Do u think jungle renekton is actually viable with prowlers claw? I feel like with prowlers, renekton will be able to gank well as champ like Camille while being able to clear faster and healthier! It’s definitely wasting some fury aspect and I’m sure it’s not a tier 1 idea but I feel like it might be actually decent.....
Well my friend anything can work, however I don't really have the answers when it comes to the jungle, I suck so much at that role lol but next season I'm planning on getting diamond at least with every role so I'll end up thinking how to play Renekton jungle along my quest. Uncle Jamal was a Renekton main that would play him jungle and ADC and he hit rank 3 at his peak, he would go some crazy playstyle with electrocute and he would just win a lot of games. Like you can definitely make it work, I think Renekton jungle is even better this season because jungle isn't has difficult along with the fact you don't have to build a jungle item.
So would you say this build isn't good for a bronze player? Because of the cons. I'm committed to learning renekton and I practice csing with him, and combos in practice tool daily. Not to mention the summoners rift games themselves.
I mean you can play it in any elo, you just need to be self aware of your own mistakes and be open minded to how each build functions. Of course if you're new or just an average Renekton player, goredrinker might be better so you can limit test and learn the champion better, however you will be limited the higher up you go in games just based off how easy that playstyle can be countered, plus going even isn't what you want to be doing. Prowler allows you to snowball much harder and be a threat that scales all the way into the late game. Overall play what is more fun to you.
@@Godrekton Thanks. Yesterday I tried prowlers claw and really liked the extra mobility with the flash, and the damage. I also like how I can use use ignite again instead of ghost.
I used to, but I usually just have a problem playing and talking, just takes away too much of my focus and I end up tilting xD however next season I will plan on doing like game breakdowns of the games I played, I would just review my own game and explain my thought process, the things I did good and bad, and overall just try to teach people.
A high unwordly entity braced me with the vison that was Prowler's Claw, he told me to spread the knowledge to the youth and that's my mission. I will help cleanse the unholy blasphemy that is building Bruiser items and playing Renekton like a static season 1 mechanic-less champion. But yeah, you could say that xD
renekton doesn't do so much damage in this season and these items are not that good as it looks or people think. if you watch carefully every renekton video you will see he is way more ahead than others. most of the clips here, renekton is +4, +5 level from the enemies. the damage output is completely normal and for other champions is way more higher. so sit down and calm guys...
I don't want to sound like an elitest, but a lot of these people are just playing Bruiser and Bruiser was never good at hard snowballing leads without falling off at some point, most people also stopped building items like Bork, which is still super good. I don't really mean to cherry pick some clips, if that's what it looks like with me being over levelled, but the point of my style isn't to be even it is to be ahead, and I play to close out games and now that I have an item that easily allows me to reach people and abuse my mechanics, I just kill anything. Like sure, I think the meta atm is a bit meh with tanks being really braindead strong, but once it clears up carrying from top lane will be super easier, but even at the moment if you play this mid lane you will have so much of a better chance getting to abuse this playstyle. I think my item builds really bring out some crazy new damage Renekton didn't have before, but even in this tank meta you're just melting so much harder and being even more of a threat when you're ahead with items such as Seryda's Grudge, New Cleaver, Bork, all 3 are super crazy when you get these.
I was a games designer and artist in university. Uhm, can't tell if that's a good or bad thing, but yeah my commentary was pretty bad in this video, I can't rewatch it with how cringe it was ahaha.
